I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
enever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
Apparently in the 1930s when there was no real comprehension about the utter horror of the Nazi party, the Daily Mail wrote a few leaders along the lines, of "that nice Mr Hitler seems to have the right idea". As soon as we went to war, this changed. That now means anything the Daily Mail does means its a tool of fascist oppression.
Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
'We now pay more for our food because of the EU. We pay more for our heating bills because of the EU. We pay more for our insurance because of the EU. Our energy security is in danger because of the EU. '
Yes but the voters can't be expected to understand such things. They should just do as they are told by their betters like Messrs. Meeks and Smithson.
The endless posting of essentially the same article on this topic is quite tedious.
Corbyn going for the Miliband Labour core vote, and failing miserably. Even with the prospect of Tory infighting over Europe, Labour's vote is now in sub prime territory.
The whole thing is complete nonsense. As somebody who has been basically self employed for many years, you know the deal. There are benefits in terms of flexibility in how you can arrange your financial affairs and that is offset against the negatives of not being a regular PAYE.
England going to need something very special not to lose again in the cricket.
Apparently hardly anyone has chased down 240+ at this ground. England should get that short of being bowled out. Hales apart it has been a pretty ordinary performance though. We really needed a bit of Buttler today.
Self employed people already get Maternity Allowance from HMG of appox £140/wk for 39 weeks. So most of the payment already exists.
It's a strange system though. All you need to qualify is having paid a year's Class 2 NI (about £160) and earned £390 in the last 61 weeks. If you've met this very low bar then you get the full benefit worth about £5500.
You can infer a lot about people by the company they keep, however. The content of the Mail is abhorrent.
You always know where you stand with the Mail. I can agree or I can say "Fuck off!" It is infinitely preferable to the sarcastic, snarky, moral high-ground, holier-than-thou "well, really..." intelletual snobbery, death-by-smugness of the Guardian.
This rather poor article by Alastair continues a long history of Europhile propaganda which has little basis in realty. They have spent years telling us that the EU doesn't affect us directly and is a tier 4 issue whilst at the same time making sure the EU has directly impacted on almost every aspect of our lives including crucially financially. We now pay more for our food because of the EU. We pay more for our heating bills because of the EU. We pay more for our insurance because of the EU. Our energy security is in danger because of the EU. Of course the Europhiles have been hugely successful at making sure the EU is not blamed for all of this but in the end the EU costs us vast amounts of money and adversely affects our lives every single day.
We also pay more for housing (due to free movement). Our air is poorer quality because the EC turned a blind eye to manufacturers diesil engine fixes and falsely encouraged a fixation on Co2 and not cleaner air.
The emails from the officer of the National Union of Students were unequivocal. Fran Cowling, the union’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) representative, said that she would not share a stage with a man whom she regarded as having been racist and “transphobic”.
That the man in question is Peter Tatchell – one of the country’s best-known gay rights campaigners, who next year celebrates his 50th year as an activist – is perhaps a mark of how fractured the debate on free speech and sexual politics has become.
Oh my... The world truly eats itself. This is even better than Germaine Greer being uninvited because she was reactionary and didnt understand gender issues. GERMAINE GREER!!!
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
Ahh yes.... Typical response. Call someone mad and abuse the messenger, Mmmm... Unfortunately for you those were the actual quotes made ( forget the story part it's the comments) Call it the Daily Jackboot if you like but the comments cannot be so easily dismissed or ignored except by someone of course who doesn't like the message.
I doubt they would even consider such a trade war it would to all intents be impossible anyway if not illegal. It's just part of the whole charade of the EU approach to our referendum and orchestrated to put fear into us for daring to want to make our own mind up. Such comments would not have been made without Merkels knowledge of course. That's Merkel the real leader of Europe that we have to get our PM to ask permission from whenever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists. If the Conservatives don't have the Mail onside, that's a problem for the Conservatives.
That's all true.
It is however sound policy to ignore its "outrage" stories. They are always always always bollocks. Essentially it's medication for low blood pressure, which most of its readers probably don't need.
England going to need something very special not to lose again in the cricket.
Apparently hardly anyone has chased down 240+ at this ground. England should get that short of being bowled out. Hales apart it has been a pretty ordinary performance though. We really needed a bit of Buttler today.
I don't have much confidence in England's bowling attack...
The emails from the officer of the National Union of Students were unequivocal. Fran Cowling, the union’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) representative, said that she would not share a stage with a man whom she regarded as having been racist and “transphobic”.
That the man in question is Peter Tatchell – one of the country’s best-known gay rights campaigners, who next year celebrates his 50th year as an activist – is perhaps a mark of how fractured the debate on free speech and sexual politics has become.
Oh my... The world truly eats itself. This is even better than Germaine Greer being uninvited because she was reactionary and didnt understand gender issues. GERMAINE GREER!!!
Seems there's a young generation who think they've invented sexual politics - and don't like being reminded it's been around for ever.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
The emails from the officer of the National Union of Students were unequivocal. Fran Cowling, the union’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) representative, said that she would not share a stage with a man whom she regarded as having been racist and “transphobic”.
That the man in question is Peter Tatchell – one of the country’s best-known gay rights campaigners, who next year celebrates his 50th year as an activist – is perhaps a mark of how fractured the debate on free speech and sexual politics has become.
Oh my... The world truly eats itself. This is even better than Germaine Greer being uninvited because she was reactionary and didnt understand gender issues. GERMAINE GREER!!!
What the f##k is wrong with those running NUS...and they 100% don't reflect their membership, who are nowhere near as political these days, let alone militant extremist nutjobs. Here is another one...
Shelly Asquith, the NUS’s vice-president for welfare, told students at one talk that there are 'some laws that should be broken'
Intelligence? Ha Ever heard of the commonwealth? Pakistan India? Your favourite country, China... where does it stand on our immigrant stakes. I suppose you will be happy with Canadian immigrants, but tell us how many Canadian Citizens are immigrants, tell us what proportion of Canadian population is immigrant.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
9am on a Sunday morning and the EVERCLOSERUNION supporters are already frothing away madly.
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
enever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
Apparently in the 1930s when there was no real comprehension about the utter horror of the Nazi party, the Daily Mail wrote a few leaders along the lines, of "that nice Mr Hitler seems to have the right idea". As soon as we went to war, this changed. That now means anything the Daily Mail does means its a tool of fascist oppression.
Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
enever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
Apparently in the 1930s when there was no real comprehension about the utter horror of the Nazi party, the Daily Mail wrote a few leaders along the lines, of "that nice Mr Hitler seems to have the right idea". As soon as we went to war, this changed. That now means anything the Daily Mail does means its a tool of fascist oppression.
Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
A happy St Valentine's Day to all. Judging by some of the emotional responses, there are a few Tier 4 operators with rustled jimjams this morning. Apologies for that.
Many of the attempted refutations merely make my point for me. Some of the more committed Leavers should dig deep to admit that their concern about the EU is not immigration, food prices or vehicle emissions, but the EU itself. That's fine: but that is a luxury available only to the comfortably off.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
I don't think it's a bad idea to support self-employed people in reproducing. I would have thought that it won't be practically useful in a lot of cases though as people's businesses will disappear if they cease to work for several months. Depends on the business, obviously.
As Mr. Urquhart says, it's swings and roundabouts. Self-employed get less stability/security, but more flexibility.
Mind you, that bar seems very low. Even if someone's in favour of that sort of system, the bar should be raised.
Agreed, I think an element of Maternity/Patentity support for the self employed is appropriate but it seems far too easy to qualify at the moment. Bear in mind that £5500 is tax free too.
A happy St Valentine's Day to all. Judging by some of the emotional responses, there are a few Tier 4 operators with rustled jimjams this morning. Apologies for that.
Many of the attempted refutations merely make my point for me. Some of the more committed Leavers should dig deep to admit that their concern about the EU is not immigration, food prices or vehicle emissions, but the EU itself. That's fine: but that is a luxury available only to the comfortably off.
And to you Alastair. But this kind of psychological mumbo jumbo really has added very little to the sum of human knowledge. It is way too subjective and the inevitable consequence is that those who feel strongly about the EU put it lower down the scale of "needs" than those who don't. Who knew?
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
The emails from the officer of the National Union of Students were unequivocal. Fran Cowling, the union’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) representative, said that she would not share a stage with a man whom she regarded as having been racist and “transphobic”.
That the man in question is Peter Tatchell – one of the country’s best-known gay rights campaigners, who next year celebrates his 50th year as an activist – is perhaps a mark of how fractured the debate on free speech and sexual politics has become.
Oh my... The world truly eats itself. This is even better than Germaine Greer being uninvited because she was reactionary and didnt understand gender issues. GERMAINE GREER!!!
Seems there's a young generation who think they've invented sexual politics - and don't like being reminded it's been around for ever.
The emails from the officer of the National Union of Students were unequivocal. Fran Cowling, the union’s lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) representative, said that she would not share a stage with a man whom she regarded as having been racist and “transphobic”.
That the man in question is Peter Tatchell – one of the country’s best-known gay rights campaigners, who next year celebrates his 50th year as an activist – is perhaps a mark of how fractured the debate on free speech and sexual politics has become.
Mr. L, just on psychology, worth noting it varies essentially from sociology to biology (so it's questionable whether all psychology should be considered a science).
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
This rather poor article by Alastair continues a long history of Europhile propaganda which has little basis in realty. They have spent years telling us that the EU doesn't affect us directly and is a tier 4 issue whilst at the same time making sure the EU has directly impacted on almost every aspect of our lives including crucially financially.
We now pay more for our food because of the EU. We pay more for our heating bills because of the EU. We pay more for our insurance because of the EU. Our energy security is in danger because of the EU.
Of course the Europhiles have been hugely successful at making sure the EU is not blamed for all of this but in the end the EU costs us vast amounts of money and adversely affects our lives every single day.
I thought it was an interesting piece. I didn't read it as an argument for either side but as a prompt to think about the subject from a relatively novel point of view.
I think that emotional identification with a nation-state is tier 4ish behaviour but it is often viscerally powerful. I think Maslow might have argued that's because of tier 2ish fears about security. It's not though, at least not necessarily. When people support their national football team they often go nuts over it but security has nothing to do with it. TLDR, I think some tier 4 concerns matter a lot to (many) people, even while they are nervous about tiers 2 and 3.
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
enever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
Two of the founders of the Fabians and Labour party members thought eugenics was a good idea.
Good morning all. It's otiose but it's Sunday so feck it. It's a bit pathetic to judge people by our current standards. Most of our forebears were variously racist, sexist and so on and so forth. Eugenics was (briefly) fashionable across many areas of society.
I've read that we now live in an attention economy. You can't get people to pay attention via sober analysis; emotions are the only practical tool. Hence controversy and click bait.
Mr. L, just on psychology, worth noting it varies essentially from sociology to biology (so it's questionable whether all psychology should be considered a science).
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
I agree. The best of psychology is very close to psychiatry. It is evidence based, subject to the scientific method and can be extremely beneficial.
My psychological state is being extremely perturbed by some extremely stupid batting by England this morning. Hales, on 93, looks on in bewilderment as people of far less talent give their wickets away trying shots he wouldn't before the last 5 overs.
I await the polling with extreme interest after this GOP debate:
Trump trashed George W Bush on Iraq, but this wasn't at a left wing protest rally. This was pitching to the republican party who are still in favour of the invasion and hold W up as a great ex-pres.
I much prefer Jonathan Haidt here. Mr Meeks psychobabbel may polish his own ego, it adds zip.
Anyone convinced of their superiority could be greatly helped by reading Mr Haidt's stuff. A liberal who understands why conversatives feel differently. And why it matters so much when attempting to connect with them.
Mr. L, just on psychology, worth noting it varies essentially from sociology to biology (so it's questionable whether all psychology should be considered a science).
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
I also find it strange when so often "Muslims" are lumped together as a description of a particular ethnicity, including by Muslims themselves. Not only obviously there are many strands of the Muslim faith, but in terms of ethnicity, your black West African Muslim is ethnically totally different from your White "convert" (again a term always used when talking about White Muslims).
A happy St Valentine's Day to all. Judging by some of the emotional responses, there are a few Tier 4 operators with rustled jimjams this morning. Apologies for that.
Many of the attempted refutations merely make my point for me. Some of the more committed Leavers should dig deep to admit that their concern about the EU is not immigration, food prices or vehicle emissions, but the EU itself. That's fine: but that is a luxury available only to the comfortably off.
And to you Alastair. But this kind of psychological mumbo jumbo really has added very little to the sum of human knowledge. It is way too subjective and the inevitable consequence is that those who feel strongly about the EU put it lower down the scale of "needs" than those who don't. Who knew?
Fair point. However there are months to go and the standard-issue EU discussion has been played to death already. Speaking of which, I hope there'll be an update to the UKIP Calypso.
I'm not aware that anyone here has argued that people place the EU high on their list of priorities. The polling seems quite conclusive on this issue. People here argue that it should be high, if truth and perception were the same, because of its enormous but largely hidden influence on lawmaking in this country.
Business for Britain's research has indicated that 64.5% of our law originates from the EU: http://businessforbritain.org/2015/03/02/definitive-study-reveals-eu-rules-account-for-65-of-uk-law/ Whilst I accept they are not an impartial group, I find their methodology considerably sounder than that of so-called impartial observers like 'full fact', who don't really have a methodology, which they can get away with because their audience consists of the sort of people who think they understand things because they read Dan Brown novels.
As an EU supporter, by all means be delighted that the 'common man' doesn't relate the EU to bread and butter issues, but I don't see how rejoicing in what is essentially a deception on a public forum really helps you.
I am not surprised at your reaction, but it does put a stop to claims that Corbyn will be coming out for Leave.
He certainly voted Leave in 1975, and continued to see the EU as a capitalist ramp during the time I knew him personally (from 1977 until 1981). I think, for better or worse, he is one of our more stubborn politicians, so I doubt he'll come out for Remain. But perhaps I project my own difficulties with both sides of the question onto him...
I think that Jezzas objections to the EU are very different to those of the hard right of the kippers and tory fellw travellers. Clearly the flag waving and anti-immigration rhetoric of the Leave campaign repels him. I think that will far outweigh his objections in the balance.
That's right. For once I can be definite: I know this from direct, recent personal discussion.
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way.
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
enever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
I was actually referring to the "comments" made by Mekels sidekick not the "comments" on the bottom of the Mails page made by people with opinions other than your own.
I am sure the Daily Heil knows how to take and report comments out of context. In any event when you have a loon like Bill Cash giving you grief, its no surprise that someone might get a bit pissed off. As for the Jackboot comments, the point remains valid.
Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
Two of the founders of the Fabians and Labour party members thought eugenics was a good idea.
Good morning all. It's otiose but it's Sunday so feck it. It's a bit pathetic to judge people by our current standards. Most of our forebears were variously racist, sexist and so on and so forth. Eugenics was (briefly) fashionable across many areas of society.
I've read that we now live in an attention economy. You can't get people to pay attention via sober analysis; emotions are the only practical tool. Hence controversy and click bait.
He also seems to forget that unlike Westminster elections, 'Remain' are not going to be the beneficiaries of the EU's perceived lack of importance. They need to motivate people for it as much as the 'Leave' need to motivate people against it. People generally not caring about could actually favour Leave, as I would imagine there are a lot more engaged Leavers than engaged Remainers.
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
I also find it strange when so often "Muslims" are lumped together as a description of a particular ethnicity, including by Muslims themselves. Not only obviously there are many strands of the Muslim faith, but in terms of ethnicity, your black West African Muslim is ethnically totally different from your White "convert" (again a term always used when talking about White Muslims).
Islam is a faith, not a "race".
Because there isn''t such a thing as "Faithism" but there is "Racism" And Because Jews.
Thanks to Speedy for his hilarious précis of the debate last night. Seriously, Speedy should monetise his skill at this - I would gladly subscribe to a website where he boils down speeches like this.
A happy St Valentine's Day to all. Judging by some of the emotional responses, there are a few Tier 4 operators with rustled jimjams this morning. Apologies for that.
Many of the attempted refutations merely make my point for me. Some of the more committed Leavers should dig deep to admit that their concern about the EU is not immigration, food prices or vehicle emissions, but the EU itself. That's fine: but that is a luxury available only to the comfortably off.
And to you Alastair. But this kind of psychological mumbo jumbo really has added very little to the sum of human knowledge. It is way too subjective and the inevitable consequence is that those who feel strongly about the EU put it lower down the scale of "needs" than those who don't. Who knew?
Fair point. However there are months to go and the standard-issue EU discussion has been played to death already. Speaking of which, I hope there'll be an update to the UKIP Calypso.
I welcome the fact that Alastair has presented the subject from different angles albeit from a europhile viewpoint. The Remain team clearly believe that using Project Fear tactics wins them through tier 4 and 5 aspects. The problem is immigration which affects a lot of tier 4 and some of tier 5. It is also the biggest concern of the voters. They view being outside the EC as a status that will deliver less immigration than remaining in would. Cameron's approach is one of "believe me", but on this it is not a GE2015 Conservative vs Labour decision over "who will deliver lower immigration". Last year that choice resulted in voters deciding that Cameron was better than Labour. However his Govt has consistently let them down on the "under 100k" promise and continues to fail in this. Having an unsupportive CofE on this has not helped. It is now in 2016 a Remain vs Leave choice on "who will deliver lower immigration" and on that Leave is more trusted today. Cameron is also losing his personal credibility with voters on that issue, as his single party Govt carries on (like the Coalition) failing to deliver on immigration. He really needed to have had a massive crackdown on immigration and have driven the figures under 100k net and then had the referendum.
I much prefer Jonathan Haidt here. Mr Meeks psychobabbel may polish his own ego, it adds zip.
Anyone convinced of their superiority could be greatly helped by reading Mr Haidt's stuff. A liberal who understands why conversatives feel differently. And why it matters so much when attempting to connect with them.
Mr. L, just on psychology, worth noting it varies essentially from sociology to biology (so it's questionable whether all psychology should be considered a science).
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
Thanks for the great link.
Distracts slightly from England's batsmen making a hash of things again.
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
I also find it strange when so often "Muslims" are lumped together as a description of a particular ethnicity, including by Muslims themselves. Not only obviously there are many strands of the Muslim faith, but in terms of ethnicity, your black West African Muslim is ethnically totally different from your White "convert" (again a term always used when talking about White Muslims).
Islam is a faith, not a "race".
Because there isn''t such a thing as "Faithism" but there is "Racism" And Because Jews.
Islamophobia? I believe the definition of which is anybody who thinks that some interpretations of the Koran don't fit very well with modern western values.
I'm really puzzled why an otherwise sensible poster like yourself uses expressions like Daily Heil and jackboots. And not in an occasional amusing way. Ach Zo,,.. For you zee war is over... Ja !
1) Cash is bonkers.. and 2) never believe any reporting by the Daily Jackboot.
Ahh yes.... Typical response. Call someone mad and abuse the messenger, Mmmm... Unfortunately for you those were the actual quotes made ( forget the story part it's the comments) Call it the Daily Jackboot if you like but the comments cannot be so easily dismissed or ignored except by someone of course who doesn't like the message.
I doubt they would even consider such a trade war it would to all intents be impossible anyway if not illegal. It's just part of the whole charade of the EU approach to our referendum and orchestrated to put fear into us for daring to want to make our own mind up. Such comments would not have been made without Merkels knowledge of course. That's Merkel the real leader of Europe that we have to get our PM to ask permission from whenever we actually want to do anything if you remember.
The comments can be ignored because the article , like any from the Daily Jackboot are designed to get the white folks angry.. Their articles are littered with words like, fury, anger and outrage, whilst never identifying who was angry , furious or outraged , and then leave it to the loony comments..
Straight bananas eh!
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists. If the Conservatives don't have the Mail onside, that's a problem for the Conservatives.
That's all true.
It is however sound policy to ignore its "outrage" stories. They are always always always bollocks. Essentially it's medication for low blood pressure, which most of its readers probably don't need.
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Its not true.. The Daily Mail pushes buttons by the hateful way it writes stories and deliberately tries to make people angry.
I doubt in the cold light of day that people actually hold the views the Daily Mail peddles.. Is that OK now Ms Plato?
Thanks to Speedy for his hilarious précis of the debate last night. Seriously, Speedy should monetise his skill at this - I would gladly subscribe to a website where he boils down speeches like this.
Seconded. A great effort from @Speedy listening and typing for two hours straight!
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
A fair point.
Still, the Mail in 2016 is harly Der Sturmer.
No, but I think most people here like a good alternate history. In an SS-GB scenario, which publication do you think would have adapted best to the 'new market conditions'? Also, afaik the Mail is the only current UK organ to publish a cartoon associating refugees/immigrants/migrants with rats.
The impressive thing about Obama's supreme court picks is that they have been even more unqualified for their jobs than Obama is for his. Like him Kagan and Sotamayor solely attained their position due to their ethnicity.
Sounds like a messy debate but Trump still on top, no change then. Audience composed of the Lindsey Graham Ladies Home Garden Club, again.
Iraq is a useful meme that will help Trump build his favorable rating nationally.
Sotomayor was an extremely well qualified candidate, and Republicans have nominated to positions on that basis. I don't know what else she could have on her record. Some people just like to marginalise achievements of all non white people.
Kagan isn't even ethnic minority so don't know your point there.
There are some things about Sotomayor that aren't public knowledge. In my view they have absolutely no bearing on how she does her job, but they are completely opposed to how she chooses to craft her public image.
(edit: p.s. my Texan friend who is a drinking buddy of her's also tells me she has a filthy sense of humour)
The impressive thing about Obama's supreme court picks is that they have been even more unqualified for their jobs than Obama is for his. Like him Kagan and Sotamayor solely attained their position due to their ethnicity.
Sounds like a messy debate but Trump still on top, no change then. Audience composed of the Lindsey Graham Ladies Home Garden Club, again.
Iraq is a useful meme that will help Trump build his favorable rating nationally.
Sotomayor was an extremely well qualified candidate, and Republicans have nominated to positions on that basis. I don't know what else she could have on her record. Some people just like to marginalise achievements of all non white people.
Kagan isn't even ethnic minority so don't know your point there.
There are some things about Sotomayor that aren't public knowledge. In my view they have absolutely no bearing on how she does her job, but they are completely opposed to how she chooses to craft her public image.
(edit: p.s. my Texan friend who is a drinking buddy of her's also tells me she has a filthy sense of humour)
The impressive thing about Obama's supreme court picks is that they have been even more unqualified for their jobs than Obama is for his. Like him Kagan and Sotamayor solely attained their position due to their ethnicity.
Sounds like a messy debate but Trump still on top, no change then. Audience composed of the Lindsey Graham Ladies Home Garden Club, again.
Iraq is a useful meme that will help Trump build his favorable rating nationally.
Sotomayor was an extremely well qualified candidate, and Republicans have nominated to positions on that basis. I don't know what else she could have on her record. Some people just like to marginalise achievements of all non white people.
Kagan isn't even ethnic minority so don't know your point there.
There are some things about Sotomayor that aren't public knowledge. In my view they have absolutely no bearing on how she does her job, but they are completely opposed to how she chooses to craft her public image.
(edit: p.s. my Texan friend who is a drinking buddy of her's also tells me she has a filthy sense of humour)
Didn't Scalia and Sotomayor like to go hunting together?
I much prefer Jonathan Haidt here. Mr Meeks psychobabbel may polish his own ego, it adds zip.
Anyone convinced of their superiority could be greatly helped by reading Mr Haidt's stuff. A liberal who understands why conversatives feel differently. And why it matters so much when attempting to connect with them.
Mr. L, just on psychology, worth noting it varies essentially from sociology to biology (so it's questionable whether all psychology should be considered a science).
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
Thanks for the great link.
Distracts slightly from England's batsmen making a hash of things again.
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
I genuinely don't understand the concern over semantics here. Anyone with a British passport is legally British, whether its right or wrong to use the word Briton to describe anyone who is British is a rather moot point.
Surely the bigger concern is that there are Brits (are you happier with that word) who carry both our passport and munitions like this simultaneously.
Good morning all. It's otiose but it's Sunday so feck it. It's a bit pathetic to judge people by our current standards. Most of our forebears were variously racist, sexist and so on and so forth. Eugenics was (briefly) fashionable across many areas of society.
I've read that we now live in an attention economy. You can't get people to pay attention via sober analysis; emotions are the only practical tool. Hence controversy and click bait.
Creating a healthier society is a good idea, and it's not hard to see how this was a preoccupation for early 20th century western civilisation. I know very little about Eugenics, but my understanding is that the theory rests upon the idea of perfecting inherited traits by selective breeding. This totally neglects the impact of lifestyle (particularly nutrition) in both our own health and what we pass down (even our genetic code can be changed in our lifeftime http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10369861/Epigenetics-How-to-alter-your-genes.html ). So obviously this has vastly more impact.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
A fair point.
Still, the Mail in 2016 is harly Der Sturmer.
No, but I think most people here like a good alternate history. In an SS-GB scenario, which publication do you think would have adapted best to the 'new market conditions'? Also, afaik the Mail is the only current UK organ to publish a cartoon associating refugees/immigrants/migrants with rats.
I did get into flack on here when i suggested the use of 'Briton' is not a word describes someones citizenship, but is a specific ethnocultural identity that refers to a specific group of people who are descended from the natives of this country. And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
I genuinely don't understand the concern over semantics here. Anyone with a British passport is legally British, whether its right or wrong to use the word Briton to describe anyone who is British is a rather moot point.
Surely the bigger concern is that there are Brits (are you happier with that word) who carry both our passport and munitions like this simultaneously.
Agreed. I also find it genuinely puzzling that anyone can query a British passport holder being described as British, or as a Briton. The article's byline then states that they are British passport holders of Iraqi-Kurdish origin. In no sense could it be said to be hiding that, or pretending that they grew up in a middle-class household in East Cheam.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
I can't see how it's hypocrisy to agree with what a newspaper has to say about Corbyn and Ed Miliband, while objecting to it publishing cartoons that suggests immigrants are rats.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
A fair point.
Still, the Mail in 2016 is harly Der Sturmer.
No, but I think most people here like a good alternate history. In an SS-GB scenario, which publication do you think would have adapted best to the 'new market conditions'? Also, afaik the Mail is the only current UK organ to publish a cartoon associating refugees/immigrants/migrants with rats.
The impressive thing about Obama's supreme court picks is that they have been even more unqualified for their jobs than Obama is for his. Like him Kagan and Sotamayor solely attained their position due to their ethnicity.
Sounds like a messy debate but Trump still on top, no change then. Audience composed of the Lindsey Graham Ladies Home Garden Club, again.
Iraq is a useful meme that will help Trump build his favorable rating nationally.
Sotomayor was an extremely well qualified candidate, and Republicans have nominated to positions on that basis. I don't know what else she could have on her record. Some people just like to marginalise achievements of all non white people.
Kagan isn't even ethnic minority so don't know your point there.
There are some things about Sotomayor that aren't public knowledge. In my view they have absolutely no bearing on how she does her job, but they are completely opposed to how she chooses to craft her public image.
(edit: p.s. my Texan friend who is a drinking buddy of her's also tells me she has a filthy sense of humour)
She's a Republican?
My Texan friend is a Democrat!
(Well, he's only Texan for tax reasons - loves NYC but lives in Colorado for the pot)
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
CEO of company with a high volume / low price model is worried that change will result in higher taxes resulting in lower passenger volumes and significantly lower margins for their businesses.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists.
Since you've already brought up the Nazis this morning, a good many (perhaps the majority) average, right of centre, middle aged, middle income voters were Nazis in 1930s Germany. Such a status isn't necessarily armour against the extreme in the right (wrong) circumstances.
A fair point.
Still, the Mail in 2016 is harly Der Sturmer.
No, but I think most people here like a good alternate history. In an SS-GB scenario, which publication do you think would have adapted best to the 'new market conditions'? Also, afaik the Mail is the only current UK organ to publish a cartoon associating refugees/immigrants/migrants with rats.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
Do you think having Expedia cookies would reduce (cost conscious customer) or increase (already looking at flights so higher commitment) the price?
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
CEO of company with a high volume / low price model is worried that change will result in higher taxes resulting in lower passenger volumes and significantly lower margins for their businesses.
Is that a fair precis?
you forgot about how it could affect his bonus :-)
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
CEO of company with a high volume / low price model is worried that change will result in higher taxes resulting in lower passenger volumes and significantly lower margins for their businesses.
Is that a fair precis?
CEOs of large companies want to curry favour with euro bueacrats in future waves of regulation?
Ignoring the bigger markets that will be created through higher levels of economic growth once bureacratic requirements are lifted.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
That's how the airlines and hotel chains already work, the complex and computer-intensive systems are getting cheaper and it wouldn't surprise if major theme parks are starting to use them for advance ticket sales.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100. I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
It will be funny when Disneyland sees the EC imposing a non-discriminatory pricing structure on them....
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
On the other hand he might like to explain why it costs more for brits to book tickets for Disneyland Paris than booking them in France.
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
Commenting solely on us paying more for flights and/or Disneyland Paris, surely that's absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
Do you think having Expedia cookies would reduce (cost conscious customer) or increase (already looking at flights so higher commitment) the price?
It depends on your previous behaviour. If you are a consummate shopper-around, it will lower it. (Or more likely, flash up a "limited time only" offer.)
If, on the other hand, you've paid full price in the past, they might bump the price up and carry a "Hurry! Only x rooms left at this price point" message.
Amazon charges you different prices for their own goods, depending on whether you regularly look at other sellers, and choose the cheapest. If you appear cost conscious to their systems, and they worry about losing you to other vendors, you'll get a lower price.
I can't see how it's hypocrisy to agree with what a newspaper has to say about Corbyn and Ed Miliband, while objecting to it publishing cartoons that suggests immigrants are rats.
The Mail uses the same aggressive manner against all of its targets.
People who purport to be appalled by its 'hateful way' but who keep quiet when that same 'hateful way' benefits their side are among the worst sort of hypocrites.
And we all know that if the Mail was pushing a pro-Cameron line SquareRoot would be happily cheering them on.
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Of course the crimes of actively supporting the Russian and Chinese communists *after* their appalling activities were exposed, and going as far as supporting them even as the soviet invasion of czechoslovakia was taking place, by many people who were considered mainstream..
Anyway, as always, our best selling writer in residence does a better job than me:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100239508/the-guardian-and-the-murderers-of-the-left-a-love-story/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35572817
Who's going to pay it?
Yes but the voters can't be expected to understand such things. They should just do as they are told by their betters like Messrs. Meeks and Smithson.
The endless posting of essentially the same article on this topic is quite tedious.
It's a strange system though. All you need to qualify is having paid a year's Class 2 NI (about £160) and earned £390 in the last 61 weeks. If you've met this very low bar then you get the full benefit worth about £5500.
Our air is poorer quality because the EC turned a blind eye to manufacturers diesil engine fixes and falsely encouraged a fixation on Co2 and not cleaner air.
It is however sound policy to ignore its "outrage" stories. They are always always always bollocks. Essentially it's medication for low blood pressure, which most of its readers probably don't need.
Seems there's a young generation who think they've invented sexual politics - and don't like being reminded it's been around for ever.
As Mr. Urquhart says, it's swings and roundabouts. Self-employed get less stability/security, but more flexibility.
Mind you, that bar seems very low. Even if someone's in favour of that sort of system, the bar should be raised.
What the f##k is wrong with those running NUS...and they 100% don't reflect their membership, who are nowhere near as political these days, let alone militant extremist nutjobs. Here is another one...
Shelly Asquith, the NUS’s vice-president for welfare, told students at one talk that there are 'some laws that should be broken'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3389527/Two-hours-extremist-bile-sinister-speaker-Corbyn-girl-backed-fanatics-against-Government-anti-terror-drive-saying-laws-broken.html
There is to be a nuclear bomb dropped on London in June
Londoners were polled on their main worries and the results were
Safety
Death
Family
Pollution
Housing
So it's clear no one is worried about the nuclear bomb
https://twitter.com/badassday/status/698712977592160257
Many of the attempted refutations merely make my point for me. Some of the more committed Leavers should dig deep to admit that their concern about the EU is not immigration, food prices or vehicle emissions, but the EU itself. That's fine: but that is a luxury available only to the comfortably off.
Still, the Mail in 2016 is harly Der Sturmer.
I don't think it's a bad idea to support self-employed people in reproducing. I would have thought that it won't be practically useful in a lot of cases though as people's businesses will disappear if they cease to work for several months. Depends on the business, obviously.
And using it as a blanket to describe anyone who has a british passport, would not have been acceptable in other circumstances.
It's also sometimes prone to political bullshit, as well as non-political bullshit (such as the polygraph).
I think that emotional identification with a nation-state is tier 4ish behaviour but it is often viscerally powerful. I think Maslow might have argued that's because of tier 2ish fears about security. It's not though, at least not necessarily. When people support their national football team they often go nuts over it but security has nothing to do with it. TLDR, I think some tier 4 concerns matter a lot to (many) people, even while they are nervous about tiers 2 and 3.
I've read that we now live in an attention economy. You can't get people to pay attention via sober analysis; emotions are the only practical tool. Hence controversy and click bait.
My psychological state is being extremely perturbed by some extremely stupid batting by England this morning. Hales, on 93, looks on in bewilderment as people of far less talent give their wickets away trying shots he wouldn't before the last 5 overs.
Trump trashed George W Bush on Iraq, but this wasn't at a left wing protest rally. This was pitching to the republican party who are still in favour of the invasion and hold W up as a great ex-pres.
Anyone convinced of their superiority could be greatly helped by reading Mr Haidt's stuff. A liberal who understands why conversatives feel differently. And why it matters so much when attempting to connect with them.
https://youtu.be/vs41JrnGaxc
Anyway, I'm off for a bit.
Islam is a faith, not a "race".
Cruz 1.31
Rubio 4.4
Bush 4.8
Tiny liquidity as yet.
I didn't see the debate. If Trump's anti-W spiel hurts him would it also benefit Jeb? Is Cruz a justified favourite?
Business for Britain's research has indicated that 64.5% of our law originates from the EU: http://businessforbritain.org/2015/03/02/definitive-study-reveals-eu-rules-account-for-65-of-uk-law/ Whilst I accept they are not an impartial group, I find their methodology considerably sounder than that of so-called impartial observers like 'full fact', who don't really have a methodology, which they can get away with because their audience consists of the sort of people who think they understand things because they read Dan Brown novels.
As an EU supporter, by all means be delighted that the 'common man' doesn't relate the EU to bread and butter issues, but I don't see how rejoicing in what is essentially a deception on a public forum really helps you.
best stick to your day job.. Hales 104no
And a great shot to bring it up too.
EU = The First Order
Seven overs for the last pair to survive.
And Because Jews.
The Remain team clearly believe that using Project Fear tactics wins them through tier 4 and 5 aspects. The problem is immigration which affects a lot of tier 4 and some of tier 5. It is also the biggest concern of the voters. They view being outside the EC as a status that will deliver less immigration than remaining in would. Cameron's approach is one of "believe me", but on this it is not a GE2015 Conservative vs Labour decision over "who will deliver lower immigration". Last year that choice resulted in voters deciding that Cameron was better than Labour. However his Govt has consistently let them down on the "under 100k" promise and continues to fail in this. Having an unsupportive CofE on this has not helped.
It is now in 2016 a Remain vs Leave choice on "who will deliver lower immigration" and on that Leave is more trusted today. Cameron is also losing his personal credibility with voters on that issue, as his single party Govt carries on (like the Coalition) failing to deliver on immigration. He really needed to have had a massive crackdown on immigration and have driven the figures under 100k net and then had the referendum.
Distracts slightly from England's batsmen making a hash of things again.
The Daily Mail reflects the views of the average right of centre, middle aged, middle income voter. Such people aren't fascists. If the Conservatives don't have the Mail onside, that's a problem for the Conservatives.
That's all true.
It is however sound policy to ignore its "outrage" stories. They are always always always bollocks. Essentially it's medication for low blood pressure, which most of its readers probably don't need.
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Its not true.. The Daily Mail pushes buttons by the hateful way it writes stories and deliberately tries to make people angry.
I doubt in the cold light of day that people actually hold the views the Daily Mail peddles..
Is that OK now Ms Plato?
Agree about Morgan though. Pretty dire performance.
Rule #1 in a limited overs match - use all the damn overs!
(edit: p.s. my Texan friend who is a drinking buddy of her's also tells me she has a filthy sense of humour)
Or is it a play on words????
Surely the bigger concern is that there are Brits (are you happier with that word) who carry both our passport and munitions like this simultaneously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Donaldson
http://www.scotsman.com/news/mi5-file-links-former-snp-leader-to-nazi-plan-1-1103305
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100255404/alex-salmond-the-snp-and-fascist-scotland/
..We already do get the worse deals check out the latest Disneyland Paris charges that were reviewed a few months ago. Pay more for flights and as for security being affected errr .....I don't think so it's in nones interests.
"The Sunday Times splashes on the intervention from Carolyn McCall, the boss of easyJet, who says Brexit would drive up the cost of air travel and herald a return to the days when flying was "reserved for the elite". Writing for the paper, she says: "The EU has brought huge benefits for UK travellers and businesses. Staying in the EU will ensure that they, and all of us, continue to receive them. How much you pay for your holiday really does depend on how much influence Britain has in Europe."
In a separate interview with The Sunday Times Peter Long, the outgoing boss of the TUI travel group, which owns Thomsons and First Choice holidays, said the safety of tourists caught up in terrorist attacks could also be compromised if Britain votes to leave. Long, who ran TUI when 33 of its customers were slaughtered by Islamist gunmen in Tunisia last year, warned that close co-operation with other EU countries was essential "to protect the security of our holidaymakers".
He added that Brexit would also cause a fall in the value of the pound: "For our customers, that means higher holiday prices and less spending money."
http://nuk-tnl-deck-prod-static.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/projects/eeb69a3cb92300456b6a5f4162093851.html
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite
(Well, he's only Texan for tax reasons - loves NYC but lives in Colorado for the pot)
CEO of company with a high volume / low price model is worried that change will result in higher taxes resulting in lower passenger volumes and significantly lower margins for their businesses.
Is that a fair precis?
Disney Corp will have a sophisticated model that looks at price elasticity by market, and will have discovered that the demand profile for the UK changes very little between (making up number here) £100/person and £110/person. As they are profit maximising, they will therefore choose to charge us £110. If the demand curve is steeper for France, and they lose more volume than they make up for in price, then they will charge £100.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing model was so sophisticated, that they had different pricing depending on the time of day you log on, whether you had the Expedia cookies on your browser, etc. etc. etc.
Ignoring the bigger markets that will be created through higher levels of economic growth once bureacratic requirements are lifted.
If, on the other hand, you've paid full price in the past, they might bump the price up and carry a "Hurry! Only x rooms left at this price point" message.
Amazon charges you different prices for their own goods, depending on whether you regularly look at other sellers, and choose the cheapest. If you appear cost conscious to their systems, and they worry about losing you to other vendors, you'll get a lower price.
People who purport to be appalled by its 'hateful way' but who keep quiet when that same 'hateful way' benefits their side are among the worst sort of hypocrites.
And we all know that if the Mail was pushing a pro-Cameron line SquareRoot would be happily cheering them on.