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Crompton (Lab defence) on Bolton
Result of council at last election (2015): Labour 39, Conservatives 15, Liberal Democrats 3, UKIP 3 (Labour majority of 18)
Result of ward at last election (2014): Labour 2,363 (60%), UKIP 826 (21%), Conservative 456 (12%), Liberal Democrat 148 (4%), Independent 121 (3%)
Candidates duly nominated:
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Eastleigh. Boring or fun?0
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Ooh a by-election where I grew up, Coventry.0
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Eastleigh is the one to watch.
Can the Lib Dems hold/fight back in the constituencies they got mullered in at the general election.0 -
I can't see past a thumping Labour win in Lower Stoke.0
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No exciting By-election tonight it seems.
Even Eastleigh looks safe.0 -
FPT
There is a difference between public facing industries and public sector industries.foxinsoxuk said:
Wales has historically struggled to recruit. In part this may be improved by the imbalance between the Welsh and English terms and conditions.Scott_P said:
@WelshGovernment: We have no plans to impose new contract on #juniordoctors. Wales has strong tradition of working in partnership with everyone in our NHSdyingswan said:Any junior hospital doctor feeling under undue pressure in England should go to Wales. There the producer interest is paramount. Hip ops take 197 days whereas in England they take 75.Waiting times for diagnosis of cancer heart pneumonia and hernia problems take significantly longer. There is a Labour government. No strikes. The union prevails. No nasty Conservative government demanding reform. Life is just easier.
We look after the staff. The patients, not so much...
Any organisation that treats its staff badly is unlikely to get the best out of them. It is true of any public facing industry.
Consumers are more important than producers. When will NHS bods realise this?
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Oh and to anyone holding out hope that Rubio might just make it to the convention and get the nomination there, to put your name on the ballot you need to have won at least 8 states and territories.
That's why Ron Paul didn't make it through in 2012.
Goodnight.0 -
I see Trade Unionist and Socialist party not standing in Coventry this time.0
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I think I may have just bought a house
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Oh God, we're going to have days of talk about a "LIB DEM FIGHTBACK" after they win this Eastleigh seat on the basis of about 15 votes, aren't we.0
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Ireland: Seat prognosis for upcoming #GE16 (Irish Election Stats prognosis). #GE2016 #leadersdebate #eleQTNs https://t.co/2LSI2xzxyF0
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It's a fine guess but really any of the main parties could be anywhere +- 10 of those figures.Plato_Says said:Ireland: Seat prognosis for upcoming #GE16 (Irish Election Stats prognosis). #GE2016 #leadersdebate #eleQTNs https://t.co/2LSI2xzxyF
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It's the regulations stopping me borrowing as much as I can afford that is the problem!ydoethur said:
My interest coverage and debt to equity ratios are fantastic. Just turning over every cushion to find the equity cheque0 -
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Spoke too soon:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/facebook-primary/
This is a very nice and detailed map of all the support that candidates get in each county in the USA.0 -
Too early to say, but it looks like a grand coalition with Sinn Fein as the main opposition.EPG said:
It's a fine guess but really any of the main parties could be anywhere +- 10 of those figures.Plato_Says said:Ireland: Seat prognosis for upcoming #GE16 (Irish Election Stats prognosis). #GE2016 #leadersdebate #eleQTNs https://t.co/2LSI2xzxyF
This is far more interesting:
Europe Elects @EuropeElects Feb 10
Germany, INSA poll:
If parties would stand against each other:
CDU-EPP: 26%
CSU-EPP: 14%
Now:
CDU: 26%
CSU: 7%
The CDU-CSU would gain more votes and seats if they where separate parties, they wouldn't need the SPD.0 -
You're going to have to show me round then!Cyclefree said:0 -
Wales NHS under labour are a disaster.Mortimer said:FPT
There is a difference between public facing industries and public sector industries.foxinsoxuk said:
Wales has historically struggled to recruit. In part this may be improved by the imbalance between the Welsh and English terms and conditions.Scott_P said:
@WelshGovernment: We have no plans to impose new contract on #juniordoctors. Wales has strong tradition of working in partnership with everyone in our NHSdyingswan said:Any junior hospital doctor feeling under undue pressure in England should go to Wales. There the producer interest is paramount. Hip ops take 197 days whereas in England they take 75.Waiting times for diagnosis of cancer heart pneumonia and hernia problems take significantly longer. There is a Labour government. No strikes. The union prevails. No nasty Conservative government demanding reform. Life is just easier.
We look after the staff. The patients, not so much...
Any organisation that treats its staff badly is unlikely to get the best out of them. It is true of any public facing industry.
Consumers are more important than producers. When will NHS bods realise this?0 -
Like hell. They hate each other, way more than either hates SF, and they know it will crucify the smaller partner, not just because they all watched the Lib Dems with morbid fascination but because their memberships hate the idea. So I have no money on that outcome.Speedy said:
Too early to say, but it looks like a grand coalition with Sinn Fein as the main opposition.EPG said:
It's a fine guess but really any of the main parties could be anywhere +- 10 of those figures.Plato_Says said:Ireland: Seat prognosis for upcoming #GE16 (Irish Election Stats prognosis). #GE2016 #leadersdebate #eleQTNs https://t.co/2LSI2xzxyF
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How would you react if I said 'yes please'?RobD said:
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Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?0 -
Surely, it's game over for Rubio then?Speedy said:Oh and to anyone holding out hope that Rubio might just make it to the convention and get the nomination there, to put your name on the ballot you need to have won at least 8 states and territories.
That's why Ron Paul didn't make it through in 2012.
Goodnight.
He ain't winning 8 states outright.0 -
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...0 -
I've not had any problem with them to be honest - except when mice ate my cables (but they fixed that, no charge, two days later).Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?0 -
I had them for a while and experienced something a little bit similar, and I never really got to the bottom of it. My internet connection would drop, waiting and nothing would happen, but a reboot of the router would immediately restore it i.e. If the connection had actually dropped it was only momentary, but the fault lay with the router itself. Had a new router from them and the same thing happened.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I have to say I don't really like any service that imposes one of their routers with their tweaked firmware on you e.g. BT and Virgin. Obviously you can purchase your own and set it up, but then of course if you ever experience any problems the customer service people do their nut.0 -
Anyone been watching Keeping up with Khans on Channel 4. It's about how existing Asian communities are dealing with a large influx of Roma. It is why I am sceptical that Lab will be as strongly for 'Remain' as people think0
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Perhaps a few betting tips would suffice :-)Charles said:
How would you react if I said 'yes please'?RobD said:0 -
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.0 -
I think a tad hyperbolic. But it's incredibly patchy - Powys has fewer medics per head of population than Afghanistan or Albania.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Wales NHS under labour are a disaster.Mortimer said:FPT
There is a difference between public facing industries and public sector industries.foxinsoxuk said:
Wales has historically struggled to recruit. In part this may be improved by the imbalance between the Welsh and English terms and conditions.Scott_P said:
@WelshGovernment: We have no plans to impose new contract on #juniordoctors. Wales has strong tradition of working in partnership with everyone in our NHSdyingswan said:Any junior hospital doctor feeling under undue pressure in England should go to Wales. There the producer interest is paramount. Hip ops take 197 days whereas in England they take 75.Waiting times for diagnosis of cancer heart pneumonia and hernia problems take significantly longer. There is a Labour government. No strikes. The union prevails. No nasty Conservative government demanding reform. Life is just easier.
We look after the staff. The patients, not so much...
Any organisation that treats its staff badly is unlikely to get the best out of them. It is true of any public facing industry.
Consumers are more important than producers. When will NHS bods realise this?
There's been some good work enumerating some of the important issues;
- lack of critical mass to create and sustain centres of expertise.
- unattractive for ambitious professionals compared to NHS England.
- highly reliant on foreign doctors
- large areas of low population density.
- aging workforce.
And so on and so forth. It's not _all_ Labour's fault. Some of it just comes with the territory. Offered a choice between Bristol and Newport, I know where I'd want to work. 0 -
It's not the deposit I'm struggling with (about 75% equity) ... I'm just trying to avoid dipping into my ISAydoethur said:
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.
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Thanks as ever for these, Harry. Any chance you could include a line in future about the causes of the by-elections, to help us all spin our way out of disappointing results for our sides? ;-)0
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Wales leads the country in woundcare - one of the best places in Europe.John_M said:
I think a tad hyperbolic. But it's incredibly patchy - Powys has fewer medics per head of population than Afghanistan or Albania.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Wales NHS under labour are a disaster.Mortimer said:FPT
There is a difference between public facing industries and public sector industries.foxinsoxuk said:
Wales has historically struggled to recruit. In part this may be improved by the imbalance between the Welsh and English terms and conditions.Scott_P said:
@WelshGovernment: We have no plans to impose new contract on #juniordoctors. Wales has strong tradition of working in partnership with everyone in our NHSdyingswan said:Any junior hospital doctor feeling under undue pressure in England should go to Wales. There the producer interest is paramount. Hip ops take 197 days whereas in England they take 75.Waiting times for diagnosis of cancer heart pneumonia and hernia problems take significantly longer. There is a Labour government. No strikes. The union prevails. No nasty Conservative government demanding reform. Life is just easier.
We look after the staff. The patients, not so much...
Any organisation that treats its staff badly is unlikely to get the best out of them. It is true of any public facing industry.
Consumers are more important than producers. When will NHS bods realise this?
There's been some good work enumerating some of the important issues;
- lack of critical mass to create and sustain centres of expertise.
- unattractive for ambitious professionals compared to NHS England.
- highly reliant on foreign doctors
- large areas of low population density.
- aging workforce.
And so on and so forth. It's not _all_ Labour's fault. Some of it just comes with the territory. Offered a choice between Bristol and Newport, I know where I'd want to work.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-291286200 -
Huh! In that case I take it all back. Somebody who can afford that doesn't need my sympathy.Charles said:
It's not the deposit I'm struggling with (about 75% equity) ... I'm just trying to avoid dipping into my ISAydoethur said:
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.
My advice from personal experience would be to just take the hit and get on with it (as I had to in the end) but I suppose it's worth exploring other options first if there's a penalty involved.0 -
Interesting - thanks Francis. It almost feels like there is over demand locally - always stops working about 3.30pm and 9pm.FrancisUrquhart said:
I had them for a while and experienced something a little bit similar, and I never really got to the bottom of it. My internet connection would drop, waiting and nothing would happen, but a reboot of the router would immediately restore it i.e. If the connection had actually dropped it was only momentary, but the fault lay with the router itself. Had a new router from them and the same thing happened.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I have to say I don't really like any service that imposes one of their routers with their tweaked firmware on you e.g. BT and Virgin. Obviously you can purchase your own and set it up, but then of course if you ever experience any problems the customer service people do their nut.
I'm not a fan of the provided routers either - at the office we have an ages old EE contract (so old we took it out with freeserve) with our own router that works better than most.
Hilariously, the last time we had a problem (turned out to be a fried router) I had a great chat with a customer service operative who was aghast at the hardware cost of my privately sourced Netgear router. He said it would cost a certain amount of Rupees to purchase that where he was; converted it was a fraction of the cost!0 -
Nah - I just like the tax break!ydoethur said:
Huh! In that case I take it all back. Somebody who can afford that doesn't need my sympathy.Charles said:
It's not the deposit I'm struggling with (about 75% equity) ... I'm just trying to avoid dipping into my ISAydoethur said:
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.
My advice from personal experience would be to just take the hit and get on with it (as I had to in the end) but I suppose it's worth exploring other options first if there's a penalty involved.
My cousins have lent me the bridging finance, but I think their definite of "mates rates" is different to mine!0 -
Congratulations, tough to find a house that ticks all the boxes for the family, hope you have a smooth purchase.Charles said:
It's not the deposit I'm struggling with (about 75% equity) ... I'm just trying to avoid dipping into my ISAydoethur said:
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.
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Interesting. Given the fibre optic and certainly more sophisticated traffic management, I would have thought Virgin would be ok on capacity front (at least not killing people's connections vs providing less bandwidth).Mortimer said:
Interesting - thanks Francis. It almost feels like there is over demand locally - always stops working about 3.30pm and 9pm.FrancisUrquhart said:
I had them for a while and experienced something a little bit similar, and I never really got to the bottom of it. My internet connection would drop, waiting and nothing would happen, but a reboot of the router would immediately restore it i.e. If the connection had actually dropped it was only momentary, but the fault lay with the router itself. Had a new router from them and the same thing happened.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I have to say I don't really like any service that imposes one of their routers with their tweaked firmware on you e.g. BT and Virgin. Obviously you can purchase your own and set it up, but then of course if you ever experience any problems the customer service people do their nut.
I'm not a fan of the provided routers either - at the office we have an ages old EE contract (so old we took it out with freeserve) with our own router that works better than most.
Hilariously, the last time we had a problem (turned out to be a fried router) I had a great chat with a customer service operative who was aghast at the hardware cost of my privately sourced Netgear router. He said it would cost a certain amount of Rupees to purchase that where he was; converted it was a fraction of the cost!
I am not with them now, so I don't know what sort of service they offer these days. Other than the router dropout issue (which I just got used to and wrote a simple script to do it for me), I don't remember ever experiencing serious "peak time" issues and at the time I was hammering my connection pretty much around the clock.0 -
So do I, but having a house beats having a tax break. Particularly beats having a tax break and a second loan, whoever it's from.Charles said:
Nah - I just like the tax break!ydoethur said:
Huh! In that case I take it all back. Somebody who can afford that doesn't need my sympathy.Charles said:
It's not the deposit I'm struggling with (about 75% equity) ... I'm just trying to avoid dipping into my ISAydoethur said:
We historians tend do draw conclusions based on partial data. And as always, this approach proved correct.foxinsoxuk said:
Did Charles say London?ydoethur said:
But when nobody can afford the house/flat that they live in, then there is only one way the market will head...
More seriously, congratulations Charles and I hope all goes smoothly with the purchase. But I still think that if somebody of your financial status is struggling to scrape together the necessary deposit, regulations or no it's a sign there's something about to go badly wrong somewhere.
My advice from personal experience would be to just take the hit and get on with it (as I had to in the end) but I suppose it's worth exploring other options first if there's a penalty involved.
My cousins have lent me the bridging finance, but I think their definite of "mates rates" is different to mine!
With that, congratulations again and good night.0 -
Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leader poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
No experience of Virgin but you might want to check if it is your wifi rather than the connection between router and Virgin that drops out. Then I'd talk to Virgin and give them a chance to replace their kit.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?0 -
When I put "St Johns Wood" into the search box for Google maps its arrow pointed to a spot very close to the Beatles' Abbey Rd crossing.0
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Thanks John,DecrepitJohnL said:
No experience of Virgin but you might want to check if it is your wifi rather than the connection between router and Virgin that drops out. Then I'd talk to Virgin and give them a chance to replace their kit.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I'm going to have the 'sort this out within a week or we're going to BT' chat with them tomorrow!0 -
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Not in North Wales its notJohn_M said:
I think a tad hyperbolic. But it's incredibly patchy - Powys has fewer medics per head of population than Afghanistan or Albania.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Wales NHS under labour are a disaster.Mortimer said:FPT
There is a difference between public facing industries and public sector industries.foxinsoxuk said:
Wales has historically struggled to recruit. In part this may be improved by the imbalance between the Welsh and English terms and conditions.Scott_P said:
@WelshGovernment: We have no plans to impose new contract on #juniordoctors. Wales has strong tradition of working in partnership with everyone in our NHSdyingswan said:Any junior hospital doctor feeling under undue pressure in England should go to Wales. There the producer interest is paramount. Hip ops take 197 days whereas in England they take 75.Waiting times for diagnosis of cancer heart pneumonia and hernia problems take significantly longer. There is a Labour government. No strikes. The union prevails. No nasty Conservative government demanding reform. Life is just easier.
We look after the staff. The patients, not so much...
Any organisation that treats its staff badly is unlikely to get the best out of them. It is true of any public facing industry.
Consumers are more important than producers. When will NHS bods realise this?
There's been some good work enumerating some of the important issues;
- lack of critical mass to create and sustain centres of expertise.
- unattractive for ambitious professionals compared to NHS England.
- highly reliant on foreign doctors
- large areas of low population density.
- aging workforce.
And so on and so forth. It's not _all_ Labour's fault. Some of it just comes with the territory. Offered a choice between Bristol and Newport, I know where I'd want to work.0 -
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html 0 -
Yeh - I think I would too.TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
Clem would have had 4 words for him.0 -
Some people reckon new cars can be better value than used. Something to do with discounts, zero per cent finance and technology. I get the bus.Cyclefree said:0 -
Hahahahaha.Danny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
Hes not that bad.
If he were leader of the party I'd still vote Tory. But with a peg on my nose.0 -
Oh God.
Farage is talking about British Jobs for British Workers on the front page of tomorrow's Express0 -
I couldn't quit as I'm not a member, but I would vote against them.Mortimer said:
Yeh - I think I would too.TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
Clem would have had 4 words for him.0 -
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
From Trump v Sanders to Fox v Corbyn, what is a socially liberal, fiscally conservative Tory to do? Surely not Tim Farron?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
If it is your wifi, make sure you've not set your laptop to cut power to the nic to save battery life. Then skim the Virgin forums for similar problems. http://community.virginmedia.com/Mortimer said:
Thanks John,DecrepitJohnL said:
No experience of Virgin but you might want to check if it is your wifi rather than the connection between router and Virgin that drops out. Then I'd talk to Virgin and give them a chance to replace their kit.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I'm going to have the 'sort this out within a week or we're going to BT' chat with them tomorrow!0 -
I still think there is a chance that both Labour and conservative will split post referendum. If one starts the other could follow.0
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Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Definitely not the computer end - we have the same problem with phones, tablets and laptops.DecrepitJohnL said:
If it is your wifi, make sure you've not set your laptop to cut power to the nic to save battery life. Then skim the Virgin forums for similar problems. http://community.virginmedia.com/Mortimer said:
Thanks John,DecrepitJohnL said:
No experience of Virgin but you might want to check if it is your wifi rather than the connection between router and Virgin that drops out. Then I'd talk to Virgin and give them a chance to replace their kit.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
I'm going to have the 'sort this out within a week or we're going to BT' chat with them tomorrow!
Good shourt on the forums though. Ta!0 -
When I had Telewest (NTL, now Virgin) cable, I replaced their device with a Linksys. No problems for 3 years.Mortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?
My Talktalk ADSL Huwai router died. Bought a Netgear. Works fine
My BT VDSL Home Hub was just crap. Bought a different Netgear. No issue.0 -
A very good analysis of Hillary's political positioning dilemma:
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/there-is-only-one-way-1362390891388982.html
These passages particularly struck me as hitting home:
"Clinton’s campaign feels like it’s all about her — her résumé, her mettle, her 25 years of suffering through the indignities of public service. “I’m with her” is the slogan for a campaign that seems to signify nothing beyond the joyless accretion of personal loyalties."
"This was the shock wave of 2008 finally rising to the surface of our fractured politics. What Sanders and Donald Trump embody, each in his own strident way, is the disgust that’s been building for the eight years since Lehman Brothers collapsed and took the markets with it — eight years in which the wealthy and their wholly owned political parties recovered fabulously while everyone else stagnated."
"But if ... Clinton tries to ... make the case for a more pragmatic approach [based on who is best placed to operate in the system so reviled by the electorate - my addition], she’s seen as an ideological apostate, unwilling to take on the system. And so her choice is to be either a less genuine candidate than Sanders or a less progressive one — or some days both."
"Clinton has run a campaign that’s all about her bona fides, and nobody’s swooning. If she’s still defending her Wall Street speeches and whining about the vast right-wing conspiracy a few weeks from now, the nomination could very well slip away from her, again."0 -
Well, there is a chance but it <1% if we vote to stay. Difficult to judge on remain, maybe 10% we see a major realigning of political parties in the UK.philiph said:I still think there is a chance that both Labour and conservative will split post referendum. If one starts the other could follow.
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Nah - he has been in the public eye, and mostly for the wrong reasons, for too long.HYUFD said:
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Again how did I miss this:
Chris Cillizza @TheFix 4h4 hours ago
Clinton Foundation received subpoena from State Department investigators http://wpo.st/qZiA1
Chris Cillizza @TheFix 4h4 hours ago
There are now 3 investigations with ties to Hillary.
1.Clinton emails by State
2. Clinton emails by FBI
3. Clinton Foundation by State0 -
The morning after visiting a lady friend in Swiss Cottage I put my home address into my sat nav and it took me via Abbey Road. I don't know how the locals handle all the tourists taking the piss on the crossing. Incredibly frustrating...Toms said:When I put "St Johns Wood" into the search box for Google maps its arrow pointed to a spot very close to the Beatles' Abbey Rd crossing.
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Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
The router Virgin provided was crap - rather like Mr Hunt. Bought a Netgear one and works fine. Speeds regularly over to 100Mb/sMortimer said:Totally off topic, but does anyone else use Virgin cable broadband? It just stops working frequently unlike any other service I've ever used.
Restarting the router sometimes works, but not every time.
Worth talking to them, or just changing provider?0 -
Well it is in Birmingham, can't blame them.Mortimer said:
Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Stop worrying about Farage ,worry about your party.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh God.
Farage is talking about British Jobs for British Workers on the front page of tomorrow's Express
Nick Sutton @suttonnick
Friday's Telegraph front page:
EU deal could split Tories
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers0 -
Not a nice thought.... C'mon Boris, you are losing out to Liam Fox FFS.... Support Leave,and much of that Fox support would head your way.HYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leader poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
It depends on EUref, if it is Remain I would agree Fox is unlikely to be the next leader, though if it is close he will be a contendor, if it is Leave he becomes the favourite as the most prominent Tory to back BREXIT so farMortimer said:
Nah - he has been in the public eye, and mostly for the wrong reasons, for too long.HYUFD said:
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
No - he wont.HYUFD said:
It depends on EUref, if it is Remain I would agree Fox is unlikely to be the next leader, though if it is close he will be a contendor, if it is Leave he becomes the favouriteMortimer said:
Nah - he has been in the public eye, and mostly for the wrong reasons, for too long.HYUFD said:
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
I'd be surprised if he made it to 4th or 5th in the MPs contest.0 -
I worry all the time.Tykejohnno said:
Stop worrying about Farage ,worry about your party.TheScreamingEagles said:Oh God.
Farage is talking about British Jobs for British Workers on the front page of tomorrow's Express
Nick Sutton @suttonnick
Friday's Telegraph front page:
EU deal could split Tories
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers0 -
Indeed. I'm hoping the baggies are playing at home the Saturday before. Never made it to the Hawthorns before - first time for (almost) everything!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it is in Birmingham, can't blame them.Mortimer said:
Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
@JananGanesh: PM getting told how to do proper politics by those crack election winners on the Tory right again. I'm sure he's taking copious notes.0
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Hillary notably stepped up her rhetoric about reigning in Wall Street in her NH concession speechMTimT said:A very good analysis of Hillary's political positioning dilemma:
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/there-is-only-one-way-1362390891388982.html
These passages particularly struck me as hitting home:
"Clinton’s campaign feels like it’s all about her — her résumé, her mettle, her 25 years of suffering through the indignities of public service. “I’m with her” is the slogan for a campaign that seems to signify nothing beyond the joyless accretion of personal loyalties."
"This was the shock wave of 2008 finally rising to the surface of our fractured politics. What Sanders and Donald Trump embody, each in his own strident way, is the disgust that’s been building for the eight years since Lehman Brothers collapsed and took the markets with it — eight years in which the wealthy and their wholly owned political parties recovered fabulously while everyone else stagnated."
"But if ... Clinton tries to ... make the case for a more pragmatic approach [based on who is best placed to operate in the system so reviled by the electorate - my addition], she’s seen as an ideological apostate, unwilling to take on the system. And so her choice is to be either a less genuine candidate than Sanders or a less progressive one — or some days both."
"Clinton has run a campaign that’s all about her bona fides, and nobody’s swooning. If she’s still defending her Wall Street speeches and whining about the vast right-wing conspiracy a few weeks from now, the nomination could very well slip away from her, again."0 -
That said I should be partying in The Reflex Bar on Broad Street most nights.Mortimer said:
Indeed. I'm hoping the baggies are playing at home the Saturday before. Never made it to the Hawthorns before - first time for (almost) everything!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it is in Birmingham, can't blame them.Mortimer said:
Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0 -
Fox was already a strong 3rd amongst MPs in 2005 with 51 Tory MPs backing him and almost pipped Davis for the run-off, the parliamentary party is now even more euroscepticMortimer said:
No - he wont.HYUFD said:
It depends on EUref, if it is Remain I would agree Fox is unlikely to be the next leader, though if it is close he will be a contendor, if it is Leave he becomes the favouriteMortimer said:
Nah - he has been in the public eye, and mostly for the wrong reasons, for too long.HYUFD said:
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
I'd be surprised if he made it to 4th or 5th in the MPs contest.0 -
WikiBot HYUFD strikes again.HYUFD said:
Fox was already a strong 3rd amongst MPs in 2005 with 51 Tory MPs backing him and almost pipped Davis for the run-off, the parliamentary party is now even more euroscepticMortimer said:
No - he wont.HYUFD said:
It depends on EUref, if it is Remain I would agree Fox is unlikely to be the next leader, though if it is close he will be a contendor, if it is Leave he becomes the favouriteMortimer said:
Nah - he has been in the public eye, and mostly for the wrong reasons, for too long.HYUFD said:
LFCBLOTOMortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
I'd be surprised if he made it to 4th or 5th in the MPs contest.
That is the past.
Fox is not popular amongst the parliamentary Party.0 -
David Jack @DJack_Journo
Friday's @thetimes front page: Turkey threatens Europe with millions of migrants
Should help the Out cause.0 -
'Cocktails, karaoke and a 1980s soundtrack in a boisterous, good-time venue.'TheScreamingEagles said:
That said I should be partying in The Reflex Bar on Broad Street most nights.Mortimer said:
Indeed. I'm hoping the baggies are playing at home the Saturday before. Never made it to the Hawthorns before - first time for (almost) everything!TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it is in Birmingham, can't blame them.Mortimer said:
Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html
What is not to like.0 -
'A SENIOR government minister has claimed Downing Street is descending into panic over David Cameron’s failing EU renegotiation, a Eurosceptic MP claimed last night.
The revelation came as top Tories shared a stage with Nigel Farage for the first time during the “Brexit” campaign — turning their joint fire on David Cameron.
Senior Eurosceptic Tory backbencher Steve Baker told the crowd: “A Eurosceptic member of the government and I had a drink last night and he told me very plainly that it was his clear understanding that the government expected having come back with this deal, that they would show it to the public, get a round of applause and be a 20-30 points ahead for remain.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6923921/Downing-Street-panic-after-top-Tories-share-stage-with-Nigel-Farage.html
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Post 2008, the average Western voter detests big business, but loathes left wing identity politics, and is hostile to mass immigration. That up-ends traditional politics.HYUFD said:
Hillary notably stepped up her rhetoric about reigning in Wall Street in her NH concession speechMTimT said:A very good analysis of Hillary's political positioning dilemma:
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/there-is-only-one-way-1362390891388982.html
These passages particularly struck me as hitting home:
"Clinton’s campaign feels like it’s all about her — her résumé, her mettle, her 25 years of suffering through the indignities of public service. “I’m with her” is the slogan for a campaign that seems to signify nothing beyond the joyless accretion of personal loyalties."
"This was the shock wave of 2008 finally rising to the surface of our fractured politics. What Sanders and Donald Trump embody, each in his own strident way, is the disgust that’s been building for the eight years since Lehman Brothers collapsed and took the markets with it — eight years in which the wealthy and their wholly owned political parties recovered fabulously while everyone else stagnated."
"But if ... Clinton tries to ... make the case for a more pragmatic approach [based on who is best placed to operate in the system so reviled by the electorate - my addition], she’s seen as an ideological apostate, unwilling to take on the system. And so her choice is to be either a less genuine candidate than Sanders or a less progressive one — or some days both."
"Clinton has run a campaign that’s all about her bona fides, and nobody’s swooning. If she’s still defending her Wall Street speeches and whining about the vast right-wing conspiracy a few weeks from now, the nomination could very well slip away from her, again."0 -
@JamieLinks: "Migrants" in the headline. "Refugees" in the first paragraph. https://t.co/So05OTthPOTykejohnno said:David Jack @DJack_Journo
Friday's @thetimes front page: Turkey threatens Europe with millions of migrants
Should help the Out cause.0 -
That leads to Donald TrumpSean_F said:
Post 2008, the average Western voter detests big business, but loathes left wing identity politics, and is hostile to mass immigration. That up-ends traditional politics.HYUFD said:
Hillary notably stepped up her rhetoric about reigning in Wall Street in her NH concession speechMTimT said:A very good analysis of Hillary's political positioning dilemma:
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/there-is-only-one-way-1362390891388982.html
These passages particularly struck me as hitting home:
"Clinton’s campaign feels like it’s all about her — her résumé, her mettle, her 25 years of suffering through the indignities of public service. “I’m with her” is the slogan for a campaign that seems to signify nothing beyond the joyless accretion of personal loyalties."
"This was the shock wave of 2008 finally rising to the surface of our fractured politics. What Sanders and Donald Trump embody, each in his own strident way, is the disgust that’s been building for the eight years since Lehman Brothers collapsed and took the markets with it — eight years in which the wealthy and their wholly owned political parties recovered fabulously while everyone else stagnated."
"But if ... Clinton tries to ... make the case for a more pragmatic approach [based on who is best placed to operate in the system so reviled by the electorate - my addition], she’s seen as an ideological apostate, unwilling to take on the system. And so her choice is to be either a less genuine candidate than Sanders or a less progressive one — or some days both."
"Clinton has run a campaign that’s all about her bona fides, and nobody’s swooning. If she’s still defending her Wall Street speeches and whining about the vast right-wing conspiracy a few weeks from now, the nomination could very well slip away from her, again."0 -
Oh God do we have to put up with half the city centre being blocked off again. It's already a nightmare around the ICC.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it is in Birmingham, can't blame them.Mortimer said:
Good stuff - my efforts to persuade like minded mates to come too have not succeeded so far. The GF gave me the 'do I look like an idiot' face when I suggested she might like to come.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah. Filled in the application last week.Mortimer said:
Are you going to the Conference this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nah. I would withdraw my canvassing and campaigning talents and do regular Fox is crap threads on PBDanny565 said:
Would you vote Labour?TheScreamingEagles said:
I will quit the Tory party if Liam Fox becomes leader.Mortimer said:
LFWNBPMHYUFD said:Liam Fox tops the latest ConservativeHome next leaders' poll for the first time, he gets 20.89% of Tory members' votes, Theresa May 20.60%, Boris Johnson 18.60% and George Osborne 14.88%
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/02/fox-tops-our-next-leader-poll-but-with-the-joint-lowest-frontrunner-share-on-record.html0
