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HMRC probably.Pulpstar said:
Who uses these 'big consultancies' btw - always been a mystery to me...MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.0 -
Do you deny snitching? You've exposed a man who was doing very nicely without attracting much in the way of opprobrium from those of a particular hue who matter.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Cide, snitched?
Morris Dancer is a fearless warrior for justice, truth, and writing comedy coming out early 2016!
Morris Dancer does not fear an obese lecher from the icy wastes of the north.0 -
Leader of Opposition and the Chief Whip only.HurstLlama said:
Are shadow ministers paid anything other than their salaries as MPs? I didn't think they were.LadyBucket said:
It seems the Shadow Front Bench are willing to put up with any amount of humiliation as long as they keep their well paid jobs.Scott_P said:@BBCNormanS: Q:How do u feel about working with Ken Livingstone ? Maria Eagle: I'm sanguine about it
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Danny
"The problem is the Labour "moderates" have not picked their battles: they've been screaming bloody murder about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that Corbyn has done, to such an extent that when they do have a point (as they do this week with his comments about terrorism), the rank-and-file dismiss it as just the usual suspects moaning like always".
It's not just the moderates who are pissed off. To use a football analogy he's the centre forward the crowd have been clamouring for and he's just missed his fifth open goal.
It doesn't matter too much what he stands for but at a time like this when he should be scoring at will he isn't doing. In fact it isn't even clear he knows where the goal is.
The party is desperately in need of a leader0 -
PACAC @CommonsPACAC 2m2 minutes ago
Our #kidscompany inquiry continues tomorrow at 9.40. Witnesses include @OliverLetwinMP & @timloughton http://goo.gl/GM4sAl
On a more mundane matter the Kids Company inquiry continues.0 -
Thank you, Mr. Simon. In that case, assuming they are not fiddling the research money for personal profit (probably quite a big assumption), it is difficult to see why anyone with an ounce of self-respect would put up with the sort of humiliation that has been heaped upon La Eagle.oxfordsimon said:
No - but they get access to funds to help with research etc - which helps them feel more importantHurstLlama said:
Are shadow ministers paid anything other than their salaries as MPs? I didn't think they were.LadyBucket said:
It seems the Shadow Front Bench are willing to put up with any amount of humiliation as long as they keep their well paid jobs.Scott_P said:@BBCNormanS: Q:How do u feel about working with Ken Livingstone ? Maria Eagle: I'm sanguine about it
From a voter perspective if a person cannot stand up for themselves what chance is there that they will stand up for others.0 -
Chief whip ? Is she actually doing anything?Slackbladder said:
Leader of Opposition and the Chief Whip only.HurstLlama said:
Are shadow ministers paid anything other than their salaries as MPs? I didn't think they were.LadyBucket said:
It seems the Shadow Front Bench are willing to put up with any amount of humiliation as long as they keep their well paid jobs.Scott_P said:@BBCNormanS: Q:How do u feel about working with Ken Livingstone ? Maria Eagle: I'm sanguine about it
Armstrong set the ball rolling downhill the moment she accepted the job.0 -
Dr. Spyn, one can't help feeling that if Letwin's political career had been in the Roman Republic he would've been crucified decades ago.0
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Isn't that effectively what accountants do?rcs1000 said:
My friends who worked at Anderson Consulting in the mid 1990s on the big Inland Revenue job in Newcastle used to have a scam. Every week they would buy fully flexible First Class tickets from London to Newcastle, and then either travel on saver tickets, or stay in Newcastle. Given these tickets were £250+, it was £1,000/month tax free.MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.
Of course, it was also effectively theft.0 -
@KitCollins: Ken Livingstone's comments were "completely out of order", "uncalled for and unacceptable" @CarolineFlintMP #bbcpm0
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@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane0
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'But being a jellyfish, I won't do anything about it other than whine to the media'.Scott_P said:@KitCollins: Ken Livingstone's comments were "completely out of order", "uncalled for and unacceptable" @CarolineFlintMP #bbcpm
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How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for yearsScott_P said:
@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
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Arf.Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
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No. As Robert says it is theft. No Accountant would touch it.ReggieCide said:
Isn't that effectively what accountants do?rcs1000 said:
My friends who worked at Anderson Consulting in the mid 1990s on the big Inland Revenue job in Newcastle used to have a scam. Every week they would buy fully flexible First Class tickets from London to Newcastle, and then either travel on saver tickets, or stay in Newcastle. Given these tickets were £250+, it was £1,000/month tax free.MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.
Of course, it was also effectively theft.0 -
That's quite shameful. And of course illegal.rcs1000 said:
My friends who worked at Anderson Consulting in the mid 1990s on the big Inland Revenue job in Newcastle used to have a scam. Every week they would buy fully flexible First Class tickets from London to Newcastle, and then either travel on saver tickets, or stay in Newcastle. Given these tickets were £250+, it was £1,000/month tax free.MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.
Of course, it was also effectively theft.0 -
It's Mr Livingstone's appointment as minder that has really wound me up to a degree that amazes me, but his crass comments on the back of remarks about it are really no better than the way the appointment was made.Scott_P said:@KitCollins: Ken Livingstone's comments were "completely out of order", "uncalled for and unacceptable" @CarolineFlintMP #bbcpm
Their politics are one thing. Some agree and some don't. That's fair enough.
But if these staunch Labour-man-and-boy type leaders are coming out with insulting remarks and actions like these, with no regard to what is right & proper, what the hell sort of line have they & the Trades Unions been pedalling all these years? Who was it aimed at? Just the plebs outside their own inner circle?
Can't they see how their own behaviour - their behaviour, not their politics - is bringing the whole Labour/TU movement into disrepute?0 -
Just work on a monthly contract, and renew it each month.rcs1000 said:
My friends who worked at Anderson Consulting in the mid 1990s on the big Inland Revenue job in Newcastle used to have a scam. Every week they would buy fully flexible First Class tickets from London to Newcastle, and then either travel on saver tickets, or stay in Newcastle. Given these tickets were £250+, it was £1,000/month tax free.MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.
Of course, it was also effectively theft.
Sorted.0 -
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?0 -
AnneJGP said:
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?
Perhaps Abbot was distracted - still finishing some Christmas cards at the same time?
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Ex backbench MP, Ms Abbott now enjoys the full backing of the party leader and is his biggest cheerleader. – She’s probably getting her own back on all the little people whom ignored her for the past decade.Plato_Says said:
How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
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Nick Palmer will be along shortly to tell us that he's 'perfectly relaxed about this kind of simple mistake', and everyone's friends.AnneJGP said:
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?0 -
She's carrying on as if she's a charmed life. All those miles in East Germany it appears.SimonStClare said:
Ex backbench MP, Ms Abbott now enjoys the full backing of the party leader and is his biggest cheerleader. – She’s probably getting her own back on all the little people whom ignored her for the past decade.
Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
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On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM0 -
LOOK, SQUIRREL!Scott_P said:On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM0 -
Ah, now that may well be correct - especially if the Ed/David mix-up was a standing joke amongst the PLP.SimonStClare said:Ex backbench MP, Ms Abbott now enjoys the full backing of the party leader and is his biggest cheerleader. – She’s probably getting her own back on all the little people whom ignored her for the past decade.
Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
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@owenjbennett: Ex Shad Cab min tells @paulwaugh "Ken's position is untenable."
https://t.co/6MOUw1hxZW
So, he's nailed on then.0 -
So, how was today in the World of Trident?
I'm amazed about how many people waste their times on such obscure issues and making a fuss about it, either for or against.0 -
It's a very dull squirrel too. I really can't see what huge hoopla this is.watford30 said:
LOOK, SQUIRREL!Scott_P said:On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM0 -
So, Ken remains.Scott_P said:@owenjbennett: Ex Shad Cab min tells @paulwaugh "Ken's position is untenable."
https://t.co/6MOUw1hxZW
So, he's nailed on then.0 -
I was being "political" with what constitutes "theft"Richard_Tyndall said:
No. As Robert says it is theft. No Accountant would touch it.ReggieCide said:
Isn't that effectively what accountants do?rcs1000 said:
My friends who worked at Anderson Consulting in the mid 1990s on the big Inland Revenue job in Newcastle used to have a scam. Every week they would buy fully flexible First Class tickets from London to Newcastle, and then either travel on saver tickets, or stay in Newcastle. Given these tickets were £250+, it was £1,000/month tax free.MP_SE said:
I would say it is no accident.Alistair said:
There is a worrying trend in the governments legislative bent in closing down tax avoidance avenues which are all focused on going after personal-level tax avoidance whilst opening up further avenues for institutional tax avoidance that has the effect of giving multi-nationals further advantages over local individuals.eek said:
For many contractors the T&S changes by itself will destroy contracting for them.DaemonBarber said:
I'm a contractor (as you may have gathered)
I've no issue with HMRC/Gov changing the rules and closing down loopholes. The travel/subsistance and dividend changes announced at the last budget for example are all fine.
This isn't going to result in me paying more tax. It will likely result in me paying no tax until I can find a FTE job on a salary that results in less tax.
It is about the flexible contractor market evaporating.
My company structure is there to afford me some protection for when i'm out of work or ill. I have to cover my own pension, sick-pay, holiday pay, insurance, accountancy and so on. It isn't a wheeze to get out of tax.
By refusing to engage in any debate beyond ya-boo-pay-up-you-tax-dodger, you show yourself up as ignorant and would be best placed to STFU.
Given that I compete with the big consultancies why should their consultant be allowed to claim train travel and hotels when spending Monday to Friday at a remote client while I am refused the ability to reclaim those expenses.
I wonder if the big consultancies still charge for travel and hotels whilst failing to tell the client about the rebate they will receive.
Of course, it was also effectively theft.0 -
Eating them, maybe,MarkHopkins said:AnneJGP said:
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?
Perhaps Abbot was distracted - still finishing some Christmas cards at the same time?0 -
Does she send them to her constituents?MarkHopkins said:AnneJGP said:
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?
Perhaps Abbot was distracted - still finishing some Christmas cards at the same time?0 -
The channel 4 docudrama about this period in Labour's history is going to be good fun. It won't even have to be a satire to be funny.Scott_P said:@owenjbennett: Ex Shad Cab min tells @paulwaugh "Ken's position is untenable."
https://t.co/6MOUw1hxZW
So, he's nailed on then.
As five act plays go I guess we are pretty much well into act 2 now.0 -
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Lords debate re votes at 16 in the EU referendum going very badly for the Govt - big defeat looks likely.0
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Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/0 -
Is it a good day to bury bad news?FrancisUrquhart said:Burying that bad news....
Yeah, Corbyn's still there...0 -
There is also the small matter of a state of emergency in France.Scott_P said:On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM
And that's before we get to discussing how Obama has finally gotten to the end of his string of ineffectiveness after 7years.0 -
That's what you get if you have a programme whose staff is made up of pretty much 99% former Guardian employees. So much for diversity.Scott_P said:On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM0 -
Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
What will be the turnout in the Oldham West & Royton By-Election?Bet here: http://pdy.pr/RuyPsh0 -
Lords Division now on votes at 16 in EU ref.
Result in 15mins.0 -
Peers voting. Not content sounded louder, but the contents may already be in the lobby
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Not going to change my opinion that there is the need for a UN resolution for political cover in any middle eastern military operations to deny islamists of the religious war card.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/0 -
They're all for Jezzer, complete with lipstick kisses.ReggieCide said:
Does she send them to her constituents?MarkHopkins said:AnneJGP said:
Has to be a calculated insult, is my guess.Plato_Says said:How can she get them confused? They look almost nothing alike, do different jobs and she's known both for years
Scott_P said:@estellehart: Diane Abbot on PM talking about Angela Eagle's defence role, wrong sister Diane
What's going on here? What's the sub-text to all this?
Perhaps Abbot was distracted - still finishing some Christmas cards at the same time?
'Happy Christmas, remember Potsdam? XXX'.0 -
Hollande and Ban Ki-moon have discussed the 'rapid' adoption of a UN resolution against terrorism, according to the French president's office.
Speedy said:
Not going to change my opinion that there is the need for a UN resolution for political cover in any middle eastern military operations to deny islamists of the religious war card.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/0 -
BREAKING: Abdelhamid Abaaoud has been killed, senior intelligence officials state0
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Plato_Says said:
Hollande and Ban Ki-moon have discussed the 'rapid' adoption of a UN resolution against terrorism, according to the French president's office.
Speedy said:
Not going to change my opinion that there is the need for a UN resolution for political cover in any middle eastern military operations to deny islamists of the religious war card.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/
Which I will fully support once it is adopted.
If Cameron doesn't want a UN resolution there is nothing to stop France from obtaining one.0 -
What we are seeing from Mssrs Corbyn & Livingstone suggest strongly that their politics never really included a desire for that emancipation to start with.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/
Neither of them have shifted their views by an inch in 30 years. What they're showing us now are their true colours.
No wonder they've no problem with segregated audiences. As we see, it chimes with their real views nicely.0 -
Lomu always said that his disease meant he only ever performed at 80% of his potential.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34859301
I can't even imagine what a 100% Lomu would have been like. They would have had to give the other team 20 players to try and even it up.0 -
I doubt they intend to leave a middle.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
What will be the turnout in the Oldham West & Royton By-Election?Bet here: http://pdy.pr/RuyPsh0 -
Which I will fully support once it is adopted.Speedy said:Plato_Says said:Hollande and Ban Ki-moon have discussed the 'rapid' adoption of a UN resolution against terrorism, according to the French president's office.
Speedy said:
Not going to change my opinion that there is the need for a UN resolution for political cover in any middle eastern military operations to deny islamists of the religious war card.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/
If Cameron doesn't want a UN resolution there is nothing to stop France from obtaining one.
For France to take the lead, surely?0 -
I am sure Jezza will be along to tell us that was totally the wrong thing. That they should have tried harder to reason with him to give himself up.Plato_Says said:BREAKING: Abdelhamid Abaaoud has been killed, senior intelligence officials state
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"We cannot outsource our interests to a Russian veto in the security council" says Cameron
In which case what's the security council veto for? And no one uses it more than the Americans in the interests of Israel. Probably time to disband it0 -
Labour busy weedling away trying to bring in the UN as a means of justifying their inevitable vote against bombing Isis in Syria. Does anyone really think Hilary Benn is anything other than useless?0
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Amber Rudd: all coal-fired power stations to be closed within 10 years.0
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Guido thinks something stinks in Sutton. Has more dirt:
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I wonder if the Government is really fighting this very hard.MikeL said:Lords debate re votes at 16 in the EU referendum going very badly for the Govt - big defeat looks likely.
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It'll be around 40-45% IMO.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
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RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 2110
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Goodness me, the Lib Dems really are going to be reduced to 1 MP (Farron) in 2020 aren't they.MP_SE said:Guido thinks something stinks in Sutton. Has more dirt:
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That's an excellent piece.AndyJS said:Thought-provoking piece:
"Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race. The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name."
http://noramulready.com/2015/11/17/islamism-the-left-and-a-plea-to-labour-mps/0 -
I think that's spot onAndyJS said:
It'll be around 40-45% IMO.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
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Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news0 -
Speaking of scandal-ridden LibDem MPs, when is the Alistair Carmichael decision due?0
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A chunk of the party will go ballistic but I doubt Cameron will try to reverse that: it helps stack the deck.MikeL said:RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 211
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The Lords is full of bloody fools.0
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As Cameron said - Russia has different aims to us and that is why we should not wait for any UN resolution. Russia want to protect Assad. You might be a push over but I do not see why the British government should be.Roger said:"We cannot outsource our interests to a Russian veto in the security council" says Cameron
In which case what's the security council veto for? And no one uses it more than the Americans in the interests of Israel. Probably time to disband it0 -
''That's an excellent piece. ''
Apart from the bit where it says that some on the left were shocked and dismayed when labour embraced islamism.
That is total boll8cks.0 -
I'm sure he will seek to reverse it in the Commons. It's a completely unacceptable precedent.Casino_Royale said:
A chunk of the party will go ballistic but I doubt Cameron will try to reverse that: it helps stack the deck.MikeL said:RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 211
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5000 more than if Jezza was in charge...they would have come out quietly after having a nice chat.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news
I wonder if the Russian would have stood there and engaged with them like that? Or just flattened the building?
I am sure the terrorists mum's will be along shortly and say the guns only went off because they got stressed.0 -
Why so high? That's higher than Heywood & Middleton, Manchester Central and Wythenshawe & Sale East. Of by-elections in the last Parliament in the area, only Oldham East & Saddleworth broke 40%.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot onAndyJS said:
It'll be around 40-45% IMO.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
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Patrick Wintour @patrickwintour · 37s38 seconds ago
Peers vote 293-211 to let 16 and 17 year olds vote in the European Union referendum. Government will seek to overturn in Commons.0 -
He is bound to reverse it - not because of the EU but because it'll build momentum for votes at 16 at the next GE.Casino_Royale said:
A chunk of the party will go ballistic but I doubt Cameron will try to reverse that: it helps stack the deck.MikeL said:RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 211
They reversed the Lords amendment for votes at 16 in Local elections yesterday - they'll reverse this for certain as well.
But question is what happens when it goes back to the Lords. Enough Crossbenchers are going with Lab / LD that Govt has no chance of winning the vote - if opposition won't drop it.0 -
Read it again.FrancisUrquhart said:
5000 more than if Jezza was in charge...they would have come out quietly after having a nice chat.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news
I wonder if the Russian would have stood there and engaged with them like that? Or just flattened the building?
I am sure the terrorists mum's will be along shortly and say the guns only went off because they got stressed.
*Both sides fired 5000 rounds in total*.0 -
I think even Corbyn's supporters are now realising what anyone half sane knew already. And that is that regardless of his politics he is third rate (at best). He is simply not capable of leadership. It is also clearly apparent that his closest supporters are almost all 1970s/80s London leftists. This will begin to piss off the (remaining) working class membership in the north and some of the unions pretty soon as well. The PLP has to play it carefully. But 80% of his supporters didn't vote for Corbyn, they voted for a Corbyn 'avatar' of 'labour's soul'. And that he ain't.0
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Shit...the terrorists that fired of all those rounds aren't even the two they wanted.
The prosecutor could say that neither Abdel-Hamid Abu Oud, the suspected organizer, nor Saleh Abdelsalam, one of Friday’s attackers, are among the arrested people, who number seven men and one woman.
Edit:- Mail is claiming they were the ones killed...hence not arrested.0 -
Oldham East is right next door, maybe turnout will be similar?AlastairMeeks said:
Why so high? That's higher than Heywood & Middleton, Manchester Central and Wythenshawe & Sale East. Of by-elections in the last Parliament in the area, only Oldham East & Saddleworth broke 40%.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot onAndyJS said:
It'll be around 40-45% IMO.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
What will be the turnout in the Oldham West & Royton By-Election?Bet here: http://pdy.pr/RuyPsh
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“The terrorists fired 5,000 rounds,”watford30 said:
Read it again.FrancisUrquhart said:
5000 more than if Jezza was in charge...they would have come out quietly after having a nice chat.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news
I wonder if the Russian would have stood there and engaged with them like that? Or just flattened the building?
I am sure the terrorists mum's will be along shortly and say the guns only went off because they got stressed.
*Both sides fired 5000 rounds in total*.0 -
The Lib Dems cannot get noticed in the main media channels even when civil war breaks out.Danny565 said:
Goodness me, the Lib Dems really are going to be reduced to 1 MP (Farron) in 2020 aren't they.MP_SE said:Guido thinks something stinks in Sutton. Has more dirt:
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/667028044574556160
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/11/lib-dems-dodge-mutually-assured-destruction-lord-rennard-resigns-federal
"And so the party seemed set on a path of mutually assured destruction. Farron and party president Sal Brinton (one of Rennard’s colleagues in the Lords) had been trying desperately behind the scenes to defuse the situation. In the end, the Lib Dem leader issued Rennard with an ultimatum: stand down or I’ll publicly call on you to resign. When an extended Sunday night deadline passed, Farron made good on his threat."0 -
I thought, although I know comparatively little about the UN, that the idea was to stop any one member from launching a world war with the official backing of the UN. By making the five key powers of the Second World War - who were also the most significant military powers left at that time, controlling a very substantial chunk of the planet and its population between them - it made it less likely that the UN could be used to further the interest of one of them. Bear in mind that on simple majority voting, the US and Britain could easily have won every vote they proposed via their formal and informal control over large numbers of member states.Roger said:"We cannot outsource our interests to a Russian veto in the security council" says Cameron
In which case what's the security council veto for? And no one uses it more than the Americans in the interests of Israel. Probably time to disband it
Of course, the veto has often been a bit of a joke (the fact that Taiwan was considered one of the five most powerful countries in the world from 1949-71 suggests how seriously people took the idea of this veto). In this case, I suspect the Russians will in any case be perfectly happy with any resolution that does not specifically condemn Assad - something vague and meaningless like 'a government in accordance with the wishes of the Syrian people' will be adopted instead and they will vote for it.0 -
Indeed - the chances of it affecting the EU ref result are miniscule (literally under 1%) and nobody cares about the Locals.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'm sure he will seek to reverse it in the Commons. It's a completely unacceptable precedent.Casino_Royale said:
A chunk of the party will go ballistic but I doubt Cameron will try to reverse that: it helps stack the deck.MikeL said:RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 211
It's very simple - this is about Lab trying to swing 4 or 5 seats at the next GE.0 -
Thanks. I didn't know about yesterday.MikeL said:
He is bound to reverse it - not because of the EU but because it'll build momentum for votes at 16 at the next GE.Casino_Royale said:
A chunk of the party will go ballistic but I doubt Cameron will try to reverse that: it helps stack the deck.MikeL said:RESULT: GOVT LOSES 293 to 211
They reversed the Lords amendment for votes at 16 in Local elections yesterday - they'll reverse this for certain as well.
But question is what happens when it goes back to the Lords. Enough Crossbenchers are going with Lab / LD that Govt has no chance of winning the vote - if opposition won't drop it.
The Spectator, which is normally very good on these things as it has inside knowledge said Cameron himself was minded not to fight it too hard as a concession.
Will the Government force it through with the parliament act? If not, they can play the 'well, we tried but just ran out of time' card.0 -
Manchester Central and Heywood & Middleton are also adjacent to Oldham West & Royton. Oldham East & Saddleworth was a previous marginal while the other three were all previously safe Labour seats.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Oldham East is right next door, maybe turnout will be similar?AlastairMeeks said:
Why so high? That's higher than Heywood & Middleton, Manchester Central and Wythenshawe & Sale East. Of by-elections in the last Parliament in the area, only Oldham East & Saddleworth broke 40%.rcs1000 said:
I think that's spot onAndyJS said:
It'll be around 40-45% IMO.dr_spyn said:Paddy Power Politics @pppolitics 3m3 minutes ago
What will be the turnout in the Oldham West & Royton By-Election?Bet here: http://pdy.pr/RuyPsh
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Wasn't this the same story that was on Conhome last week? If so it is hardly an exclusive.FrancisUrquhart said:
That's what you get if you have a programme whose staff is made up of pretty much 99% former Guardian employees. So much for diversity.Scott_P said:On what has perhaps been the worst day so far of Corbyn's tenure (it's hard to tell, they have all been bad), Newsnight has a story...
@BBCAllegra: Newsnight EXCL on Tory campaign chief doubling up to work for pro-EU camp pollsters. Qs on neutrality unanswered https://t.co/b6Lb0JHpHM0 -
Turnout in Leicester South in 2011 was 45% despite it being an uninteresting election in terms of who was going to win.0
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Cyclical rate of fire for submachine gun is about 800 rounds per minute 13 rounds per second. 385 seconds of firing. 12 people firing for half a minute.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news0 -
Blimey - the Army fired only 1,200 rounds at Loughgall in 1987.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news0 -
I just don't understand the House of Lords at the moment. They seem to be choosing the most bizarre subjects on which to take a stand against the Commons.AlastairMeeks said:Patrick Wintour @patrickwintour · 37s38 seconds ago
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It's full of Lib Dem undead.dr_spyn said:The Lords is full of bloody fools.
Cameron needs to just appoint 40-50 more Tory peers pronto, with a handful of others.
The Guardian and Independent will go ape for a week or two. The BBC will run a story or two, and then everyone else who's not in the anti-Cameron camp already will forget about it and cease to care.0 -
Ah soul of Labour, that sums up Corbyn.Tom said:I think even Corbyn's supporters are now realising what anyone half sane knew already. And that is that regardless of his politics he is third rate (at best). He is simply not capable of leadership. It is also clearly apparent that his closest supporters are almost all 1970s/80s London leftists. This will begin to piss off the (remaining) working class membership in the north and some of the unions pretty soon as well. The PLP has to play it carefully. But 80% of his supporters didn't vote for Corbyn, they voted for a Corbyn 'avatar' of 'labour's soul'. And that he ain't.
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If Merkel is replaced it will be in an internal CDU coup not at the ballot box. The Afd are now the third most popular party in Germany in the latest poll, if that trend continues she could be ousted by her Finance Minister, Wolfgang Schauble who has been notably critical of her open welcome to Syrian refugees0
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The point is that they're taking a stand. In the absence of a functioning opposition in the House of Commons, they're taking it on themselves to provide one.AndyJS said:
I just don't understand the House of Lords at the moment. They seem to be choosing the most bizarre subjects on which to take a stand against the Commons.AlastairMeeks said:Patrick Wintour @patrickwintour · 37s38 seconds ago
Peers vote 293-211 to let 16 and 17 year olds vote in the European Union referendum. Government will seek to overturn in Commons.0 -
Francis
"I am sure Jezza will be along to tell us that was totally the wrong thing. That they should have tried harder to reason with him to give himself up."
I understand the first casualty of the siege was a police dog. I could well understand why they would send a dog in first but I'm sure there there are many animal lovers who wouldn't approve perhaps even 'Jezza'0 -
I wonder if any of the noble Lords have had cause to mark or moderate the work of 16 and 18 year olds, some of them might even be amazed how big a difference two years of schooling makes.Casino_Royale said:
It's full of Lib Dem undead.dr_spyn said:The Lords is full of bloody fools.
Cameron needs to just appoint 40-50 more Tory peers pronto, with a handful of others.
The Guardian and Independent will go ape for a week or two. The BBC will run a story or two, and then everyone else who's not in the anti-Cameron camp already will forget about it and cease to care.0 -
So you are agreeing that the UN Security Council no longer serves a useful function and should henceforth be ignored? I would suggest that is a very slippery slope. All the more so given the likelihood of accidents with two sets of aircraft operating in the same airspace carrying out operations.flightpath01 said:
As Cameron said - Russia has different aims to us and that is why we should not wait for any UN resolution. Russia want to protect Assad. You might be a push over but I do not see why the British government should be.Roger said:"We cannot outsource our interests to a Russian veto in the security council" says Cameron
In which case what's the security council veto for? And no one uses it more than the Americans in the interests of Israel. Probably time to disband it0 -
Was that with the FN SLR? Because that was self loading single shot. Maybe it's memories of islandwana that make the brass hats worry about running out of ammunitionSunil_Prasannan said:
Blimey - the Army fired only 1,200 rounds at Loughgall in 1987.AndyJS said:Gosh: police fired 5,000 rounds this morning in Paris.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/18/paris-attacks-suspected-mastermind-abdel-hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news0
