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There is a danger that Trump could win even against Hillary. After three months at or near the top of the GOP polling - and so after being subject to plenty of scrutiny - he polls within a few points of her. She is not a strong candidate given her approval ratings and while I'd expect her to beat Trump, it's no slam-dunk.Richard_Tyndall said:The truly scary prospect is that if the FBI investigations do actually come to anything (and I accept that is a very big 'if') then the US could be facing a choice between Trump and Sanders and there is a real danger Trump could actually win.
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Thanks for that lesson in intellectual rigour from someone who thinks repeatedly calling someone a fool, or using 'yeah right' is an intelligent riposte.JosiasJessop said:
Just those two words are better than your entire cumulative arguments.
You are wrong, because we wanted to get involved *before* ISIS was a significant power in the conflict. And that was mostly because of Assad's use of chemical weapons (yes, I know you don't believe he used them, but we can't help your utter lack of intellectual rigour).
'The American benefit is clear - they want to get rid of Assad.'
Really? They cared that much about Assad before he started gassing his own civilians in the civil war? What the west wanted was an end to the civil war, and Assad going was the easiest way for that to happen, especially once he used those weapons.
As usual, you apply utterly heinous and evil motives to the Americans, and pure and God-like ones to Putin and the Russians.
Yes 'we' did want to get involved before ISIS was a significant power in the region, against Assad, and it failed to convince Britain's parliament, and as a knock on effect, was never carried through in the States. ISIS provided the opportunity to bung that effort in the microwave and give it another airing.
Entertained by your notion that the US didn't care much about Assad before he 'used chemical weapons'. Not enough to actually dignify it with a response though.
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CCS is a massively expensive boondoggle. There're good reasons why the pilot projects are continuously delayed (I think Drax have pulled out of White Rose), and why it's mainly limited use has been in conjunction with enhanced recovery of oil and gas.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
CCS also has a large energy penalty, meaning the plants using it are less efficient.0 -
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)0 -
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exception of Texas and Arizona most of them vote democrat by large margins, only Nevada and perhaps Colorado are hispanic-mexican swing states but they only have 6 & 9 electoral votes respectively, while the industrial states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan each have double that number.
Given that in the state polls Hillary is struggling in the industrial states against all republicans I would ditch the hispanic outreach strategy for a blue collar one, and it's not impossible because they all have elected republican governors and senators these past few years in the rust belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.0 -
That is true, however during the summer solar power can be used almost all day in scotland due to it being close to the arctic circle, though it only produces 10-20% it's power rating during cloudy days which are very common.SandyRentool said:Solar is the daftest option in the UK. Maximum output when you don't need it, zero output when you do.
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What fun!HurstLlama said:
Don't know where those figures meet reality. I just watch the National Grid's site which shows where the power is coming from hour by hour. Nuclear normally has a share of between 20 and 25%Speedy said:
Thank goodness that the hugely expensive and dangerous nuclear power is nowhere near 25%:HurstLlama said:
Well thanks goodness that another power station is to close (by the way, from the article it burns wood not coal). Someone is thinking of the polar bears.dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
However each day something like 25% of our electricity comes from coal burning power stations (and another 25% from filthy nuclear) so we still have a long way to go. Perhaps even higher taxes on electricity might be the right thing to do; those polar bears aren't going to save themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:Electricity_Production_in_the_United_Kingdom.svg
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/0 -
Super, who has managed to do CCS on an industrial scale? There have been projects and lots of money spent but none of them as far as I know have actually worked.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
@Omnium
Yes the wind always blows, somewhere. However, there are times in the UK when over most of the country the air is still, or as close to it as makes no difference. Those periods can last for days at a time. What happens then if we are reliant on wind to generate electricity?0 -
It's hard not to call you a fool, given your foolish opinions and lack of intellectual rigour. Your views would be entertaining if they were not so morally deficient and utterly hateful.Luckyguy1983 said:
Thanks for that lesson in intellectual rigour from someone who thinks repeatedly calling someone a fool, or using 'yeah right' is an intelligent riposte.JosiasJessop said:
Just those two words are better than your entire cumulative arguments.
You are wrong, because we wanted to get involved *before* ISIS was a significant power in the conflict. And that was mostly because of Assad's use of chemical weapons (yes, I know you don't believe he used them, but we can't help your utter lack of intellectual rigour).
'The American benefit is clear - they want to get rid of Assad.'
Really? They cared that much about Assad before he started gassing his own civilians in the civil war? What the west wanted was an end to the civil war, and Assad going was the easiest way for that to happen, especially once he used those weapons.
As usual, you apply utterly heinous and evil motives to the Americans, and pure and God-like ones to Putin and the Russians.
Yes 'we' did want to get involved before ISIS was a significant power in the region, against Assad, and it failed to convince Britain's parliament, and as a knock on effect, was never carried through in the States. ISIS provided the opportunity to bung that effort in the microwave and give it another airing.
Entertained by your notion that the US didn't care much about Assad before he 'used chemical weapons'. Not enough to actually dignify it with a response though.0 -
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exception of Texas and Arizona most of them vote democrat by large margins, only Nevada and perhaps Colorado are hispanic-mexican swing states but they only have 6 & 9 electoral votes respectively, while the industrial states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan each have double that number.
Given that in the state polls Hillary is struggling in the industrial states against all republicans I would ditch the hispanic outreach strategy for a blue collar one, and it's not impossible because they all have elected republican governors and senators these past few years in the rust belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)0 -
CCS is pretty much a non starter. I have been involved with a number of projects looking at the viability over the last 5 or 6 years and they all run up against basic problems which are pretty much insurmountable at present. The Norwegians are doing much of he work on this but even they are finding it a big problem no matter how much money they throw at it.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
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While I admit that CCS has its drawbacks, and progress to commercialisation has been slower than desired (partly due to the EU), the question is what other options do we have to decarbonise? Reputable studies show that without CCS the costs will rocket.0
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Again, picking the windiest point in the year is not exactly a great way to make a measured assessment. Look at the research.AndyJS said:It's a bit of a stretch to describe wind power as poor value when we're currently producing enough of it to power the whole of the Netherlands.
Richard_Tyndall said:
Yep. In case you missed it it is bloody windy at the moment. It happens this time of year.Speedy said:
It's 18.01% right now.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not sure about 'nowhere near'. According to that chart in 2011 (the last year the chart covers) Nuclear accounted for around 18%, down from nearly 30% in 1998.Speedy said:
Thank goodness that the hugely expensive and dangerous nuclear power is nowhere near 25%:HurstLlama said:
Well thanks goodness that another power station is to close (by the way, from the article it burns wood not coal). Someone is thinking of the polar bears.dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
However each day something like 25% of our electricity comes from coal burning power stations (and another 25% from filthy nuclear) so we still have a long way to go. Perhaps even higher taxes on electricity might be the right thing to do; those polar bears aren't going to save themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:Electricity_Production_in_the_United_Kingdom.svg
Given the number of coal fired power stations that have been closed it certainly wouldn't surprise me to find that nuclear share is now back up around 25%.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
Try looking at some proper research into just how poorly we are served by wind turbines.
http://www.cityam.com/1414407936/wind-farms-unreliable-expensive-and-deeply-inefficient-study-claims
"UK wind farms top 80 per cent of their potential output for less than a week every year. It gets worse as, according to the study, wind turbines are only able to produce 90 per cent or more of their potential power output for a meagre 17 hours a year."0 -
My answer to that of course is why bother?SandyRentool said:While I admit that CCS has its drawbacks, and progress to commercialisation has been slower than desired (partly due to the EU), the question is what other options do we have to decarbonise? Reputable studies show that without CCS the costs will rocket.
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Of course, the CCS case rests on an assumed need to decarbonise - and I know we won't agree on that one. Anyway, look at Canada for commercial projects - Boundary Dam and Quest, with more to follow.Richard_Tyndall said:
My answer to that of course is why bother?SandyRentool said:While I admit that CCS has its drawbacks, and progress to commercialisation has been slower than desired (partly due to the EU), the question is what other options do we have to decarbonise? Reputable studies show that without CCS the costs will rocket.
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UK News @UK__News 13m13 minutes ago
Nicola Sturgeon has admitted that the SNP overestimated its North Sea oil projections for independence.0 -
These EU bureaucrats are completely bonkers:
"The only alternative to the EU is war," said Timmermans
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-13/eu-commissioners-dire-warning-only-alternative-europe-war0 -
Over 30 states have Republican governors, but that does not mean they would vote GOP in the presidential election.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exception of Texas and Arizona most of them vote democrat by large margins, only Nevada and perhaps Colorado are hispanic-mexican swing states but they only have 6 & 9 electoral votes respectively, while the industrial states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan each have double that number.
Given that in the state polls Hillary is struggling in the industrial states against all republicans I would ditch the hispanic outreach strategy for a blue collar one, and it's not impossible because they all have elected republican governors and senators these past few years in the rust belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
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One final comment on this topic - CCS is the only way to decarbonise industries such as cement and iron & steel. Except for shutting them down, but that just results in Carbon Leakage.0
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Now you're asking!Omnium said:
The wind will blow always. I'm quite curious as to your equation. Please provide a link.Luckyguy1983 said:
Often yes. Constantly no. There is actually a mathematical equation for percentage of energy derived from wind that you cannot go beyond to avoid too much power at some points and power outages at others - without a method of storing that power.Omnium said:
The wind really will keep blowing.Richard_Tyndall said:
Great if the wind keeps blowing. What do you do when it doesn't. We regularly have days where wind power produces around 1% of our power needs. The idea it is a reliable alternative is just nuts.Speedy said:
So wind power (15.03%) produces almost the same amount as nuclear (17.59%), but nuclear power costs 7 billion pounds per reactor and they tend to explode leaving large areas uninhabited for decades.
Simply because nuclear power is old fashioned, dangerous and incredibly expensive, does not mean conservatives should support it.
I may support nuclear weapons but I'm not an idiot to support nuclear power, if even the japanese failed to master it then it's way too dangerous.
I'll try to find it. In the meantime, here's a piece on the oversupply aspect: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/windpower/11323685/Wind-farms-paid-1m-a-week-to-switch-off.html0 -
I get wind regularly depending on diet, but have not found a way to keep the lights on. I just drive with the window down.HurstLlama said:
Super, who has managed to do CCS on an industrial scale? There have been projects and lots of money spent but none of them as far as I know have actually worked.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
@Omnium
Yes the wind always blows, somewhere. However, there are times in the UK when over most of the country the air is still, or as close to it as makes no difference. Those periods can last for days at a time. What happens then if we are reliant on wind to generate electricity?0 -
Is it? From 1980 to 1988 the Republicans won Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania at three consecutive presidential elections. From 2008 to 2012 the Democrats won all those three states twice and 2/3 of them in the previous presidential election in 2004.Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.
Justin Trudeau has just won a landslide victory in Canada beating their conservatives, France and Italy have centre left presidents so it depends entirely where you look. You are talking about the centre lefts base (and ignoring the rising ethnic minority population) you could equally make the case conservatives, especially in the US, depend on ageing white males and the left is perfectly capable of winning the rest. Elections are won, as ever, by middle class voters in the suburbs0 -
Nor was my response meant to be anything other than lighthearted. Truly sorry if this drew you some flack from other sources.ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)0 -
From the "Only in the North East" file...
'SHOPPERS queued in the street to be among the first customers of a new Poundworld store which opened at Newton Aycliffe Shopping Centre on Thursday.'0 -
ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
Oh, dear. The "wiser no just better informed" line was itself a joke (A.P. Herbert, I think, circa 1930), and I have apologised. However, if you insist on taking offence where none was meant I can't help you.ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)0 -
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
I've just checked, and Boundary Dam is part of an EOR project. Quest's CCS is part of an oil-creation system. This massively skews the economics away from what we're planning to do.SandyRentool said:
Of course, the CCS case rests on an assumed need to decarbonise - and I know we won't agree on that one. Anyway, look at Canada for commercial projects - Boundary Dam and Quest, with more to follow.Richard_Tyndall said:
My answer to that of course is why bother?SandyRentool said:While I admit that CCS has its drawbacks, and progress to commercialisation has been slower than desired (partly due to the EU), the question is what other options do we have to decarbonise? Reputable studies show that without CCS the costs will rocket.
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@DavidClinchNews: Reports of explosions and shootout in Paris. Not much detail yet but looks bad.0
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Peter Allen @peterallenparis 11m11 minutes ago
Shooting incident in the 10th arrondissement of Paris ongoing - there are fatalities and at least seven wounded, say police.0 -
So what, predicting where a state will vote in a presidential election based on who won it at a mid term election is about as useful as predicting who will win a UK parliamentary seat based on which party won the local council at the local elections. Obama lost the 2010 midterms and won re-election comfortably. Hillary also leads Trump by 7% in Virginia, 6% in Nevada and 5% in Florida in the latest polls in those states. If she won those 3 plus Colorado she would win the EC 278-260 even if she lost Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan to Trump and there are plenty of Hispanics in Nevada and Florida and a fair number in Virginia tooSpeedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exc
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.
http://www.270towin.com/
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Trump = Biff Tannen.david_herdson said:
There is a danger that Trump could win even against Hillary. After three months at or near the top of the GOP polling - and so after being subject to plenty of scrutiny - he polls within a few points of her. She is not a strong candidate given her approval ratings and while I'd expect her to beat Trump, it's no slam-dunk.Richard_Tyndall said:The truly scary prospect is that if the FBI investigations do actually come to anything (and I accept that is a very big 'if') then the US could be facing a choice between Trump and Sanders and there is a real danger Trump could actually win.
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Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a big appeal in the rust belt, in Florida most hispanics are actually cubans not mexicans, so they react differently about immigration from mexico.Tim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exception of Texas and Arizona most of them vote democrat by large margins, only Nevada and perhaps Colorado are hispanic-mexican swing states but they only have 6 & 9 electoral votes respectively, while the industrial states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan each have double that number.
Given that in the state polls Hillary is struggling in the industrial states against all republicans I would ditch the hispanic outreach strategy for a blue collar one, and it's not impossible because they all have elected republican governors and senators these past few years in the rust belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.0 -
Trump went to the University of PennsylvaniaMTimT said:
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
A bar appears to have been attacked in Paris and there has been an explosion at another bar:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central0 -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-13/eu-commissioners-dire-warning-only-alternative-europe-warMP_SE said:These EU bureaucrats are completely bonkers:
"The only alternative to the EU is war," said Timmermans
What makes him think the two are mutually exclusive?0 -
Be fair to the man. He went to the Wharton School of Business at Penn. It's very prestigious.HYUFD said:
Trump went to the University of PennsylvaniaMTimT said:
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
Radical methodists responsible? Perhaps fundamentalist taoists or even the Bhuddist Extreme League.MP_SE said:A bar appears to have been attacked in Paris and there has been an explosion at another bar:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central0 -
There's been some interesting work on flow batteries. Renewables are fairly pointless without cheap, scaleable, sustainable storage.HurstLlama said:
Super, who has managed to do CCS on an industrial scale? There have been projects and lots of money spent but none of them as far as I know have actually worked.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
@Omnium
Yes the wind always blows, somewhere. However, there are times in the UK when over most of the country the air is still, or as close to it as makes no difference. Those periods can last for days at a time. What happens then if we are reliant on wind to generate electricity?0 -
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
Hispanics of mexican origin are a crucial block in most south western states, however with the exception of Texas and Arizona most of them vote democrat by large margins, only Nevada and perhaps Colorado are hispanic-mexican swing states but they only have 6 & 9 electoral votes respectively, while the industrial states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan each have double that number.
Given that in the state polls Hillary is struggling in the industrial states against all republicans I would ditch the hispanic outreach strategy for a blue collar one, and it's not impossible because they all have elected republican governors and senators these past few years in the rust belt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.
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Scot P
Could the polls be predicting another SNP landslide because people in Scotland have rumbled people like you. Your claims about doom and disaster are totally unfounded eg the Health Service A&E figures are the best in the UK and have been for the last FIVE months running or crime is at a 41 year low. People are long past caring about the Scot Ps of this world or the unionist press who are losing circulation as fast as Labour are losing credibility.
The reality is the SNP are going to win the Scottish elections in a canter as they won the Westminster ones. It must be a great sorry to Scot P that Ruthy Davidson is unknown to most folk in Scpotland and the few who do recognise her don't like her much. Labour are a busted flush and the tax credit Tories are going no-where. It's time to get used to it because that is the way it is going to be.0 -
@NextDoorArab: #France #Paris multiple casualties reported in the 10th district after a man opened fire with an ak in a restaurant https://t.co/R0iRMKHfPM0
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Or the paramilitary wing of the Salvation Army?HurstLlama said:
Radical methodists responsible? Perhaps fundamentalist taoists or even the Bhuddist Extreme League.MP_SE said:A bar appears to have been attacked in Paris and there has been an explosion at another bar:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
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Yup, I know and some of the projects look very interesting. However, batteries that can store enough energy to supply a city for hours on end? Might be a long way off.John_M said:
There's been some interesting work on flow batteries. Renewables are fairly pointless without cheap, scaleable, sustainable storage.HurstLlama said:
Super, who has managed to do CCS on an industrial scale? There have been projects and lots of money spent but none of them as far as I know have actually worked.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
@Omnium
Yes the wind always blows, somewhere. However, there are times in the UK when over most of the country the air is still, or as close to it as makes no difference. Those periods can last for days at a time. What happens then if we are reliant on wind to generate electricity?0 -
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.0 -
Sad news indeed.MP_SE said:A bar appears to have been attacked in Paris and there has been an explosion at another bar:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central0 -
No, it really isn'tscotslass said:crime is at a 41 year low
Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/news/senior-police-officer-attacks-snp-s-crime-claims-1-3947068#ixzz3rPP48Uec
A senior police officer has rejected SNP claims that crime is at its lowest level in more than four decades.0 -
As I am sure he would not fail to remind you!Tim_B said:
Be fair to the man. He went to the Wharton School of Business at Penn. It's very prestigious.HYUFD said:
Trump went to the University of PennsylvaniaMTimT said:
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.0 -
Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/news/senior-police-officer-attacks-snp-s-crime-claims-1-3947068#ixzz3rPP48UecScott_P said:
No, it really isn'tscotslass said:crime is at a 41 year low
A senior police officer has rejected SNP claims that crime is at its lowest level in more than four decades.
It's because the police are too incompetent to record crime, such as the M9 debacle 0 -
Sodium Sulphur batteries will do the job, but at a price. I would like renewable plus batteries to be the answer, but I don't think it is.HurstLlama said:
Yup, I know and some of the projects look very interesting. However, batteries that can store enough energy to supply a city for hours on end? Might be a long way off.John_M said:
There's been some interesting work on flow batteries. Renewables are fairly pointless without cheap, scaleable, sustainable storage.HurstLlama said:
Super, who has managed to do CCS on an industrial scale? There have been projects and lots of money spent but none of them as far as I know have actually worked.SandyRentool said:If we are to decarbonise power generation then the only viable option to deal with the issue of matching supply and demand is Carbon Capture and Storage. Without CCS decarbonising not just electricity but the total economy becomes mega expensive.
@Omnium
Yes the wind always blows, somewhere. However, there are times in the UK when over most of the country the air is still, or as close to it as makes no difference. Those periods can last for days at a time. What happens then if we are reliant on wind to generate electricity?0 -
The US House, Senate, State Governorships, State Legislatures are a hell of a lot more significant than the average British borough council.HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.
Outside the US, there's this weird belief that the President controls everything.0 -
The mid-terms are not analogous to our own local elections!HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.0 -
Surely the taking of offence has nothing to do with a judgment of the intention of the giver of offence. I was certainly not looking for help nor can I help you if you're incapable of realising when you're likely to give offence.HurstLlama said:ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
Oh, dear. The "wiser no just better informed" line was itself a joke (A.P. Herbert, I think, circa 1930), and I have apologised. However, if you insist on taking offence where none was meant I can't help you.ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)0 -
Reports of shooting in central Paris with casualties
BBC news0 -
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnoutSean_F said:
The US House, Senate, State Governorships, State Legislatures are a hell of a lot more significant than the average British borough council.HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large WhiteHYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Outside the US, there's this weird belief that the President controls everything.0 -
We don't talk that oftenHYUFD said:
As I am sure he would not fail to remind you!Tim_B said:
Be fair to the man. He went to the Wharton School of Business at Penn. It's very prestigious.HYUFD said:
Trump went to the University of PennsylvaniaMTimT said:
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.
Penn is a very good school, the Wharton School of Business even more so.
Say what you like about Trump and his utterances - and frankly they are getting tedious - he is a very intelligent and clever man. Wharton don't take no dummies. His business success speaks for itself.0 -
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout0 -
Isolated incident...RobD said:It's because the police are too incompetent to record crime, such as the M9 debacle
Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/news/m9-crash-deaths-not-an-isolated-incident-1-3947901#ixzz3rPR1jhGF
THE delayed response to a crash on the M9 which claimed the lives of John Yuill and Lamara Bell was “not an isolated incident”, according to frontline staff.
A report published earlier this week by HMICS found Police Scotland had “inadequate” oversight of controversial changes to its control rooms.0 -
Oddly enough, Obama thinks that too.Sean_F said:
The US House, Senate, State Governorships, State Legislatures are a hell of a lot more significant than the average British borough council.HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.
Outside the US, there's this weird belief that the President controls everything.0 -
President Hollande was at the stadium near where the shootings And bombings took place and was removed to a safe location.
Germany playing France apparently.0 -
Going back to the Don Brind article.It seems clear Jeremy Corbyn has given clear warning to those appointed around him who are employed by him must behave in a professional manner from now on.It seems too that Osborne's trick of introducing an early debate on Trident renewal isn't going to work either,a free vote and a unifying Labour amendment calling for a public debate should do the trick.0
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Actually they do - but different years.RobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout
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The entire house is re-elected, plus a third of the senate. This happens every two years, the only difference is what class of senator are being electedTim_B said:
Actually they do - but different years.RobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout
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I made a joke, you took offence. I have apologised. You won't accept my apology. So can I suggest you go .... yourself.ReggieCide said:
Surely the taking of offence has nothing to do with a judgment of the intention of the giver of offence. I was certainly not looking for help nor can I help you if you're incapable of realising when you're likely to give offence.HurstLlama said:ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
Oh, dear. The "wiser no just better informed" line was itself a joke (A.P. Herbert, I think, circa 1930), and I have apologised. However, if you insist on taking offence where none was meant I can't help you.ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
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Actually, they are significantly different - although in theory they should be the same, they end up with very different electorates, much more favorable to the GOP.RobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout
But don't take my word for it, see the Cook Report:
http://cookpolitical.com/story/5776
In case you don't know, Charlie Cook is (along with Stuart Rothenberg and Larry Sabato) one of the three top independent political commentators.
And here is another from Rothenberg
http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/a-traditional-midterm-headache-for-democrats/0 -
You should pass your citizenship test easilyRobD said:
The entire house is re-elected, plus a third of the senate. This happens every two years, the only difference is what class of senator are being electedTim_B said:
Actually they do - but different years.RobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout
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The match seems to be going on at the moment. I thought maybe it would have been suspended.Moses_ said:President Hollande was at the stadium near where the shootings And bombings took place and was removed to a safe location.
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Thanks for the links! I suppose I was thinking more in terms of the impact of the election.MTimT said:
Actually, they are significantly different - although in theory they should be the same, they end up with very different electorates, much more favorable to the GOP.RobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout
But don't take my word for it, see the Cook Report:
http://cookpolitical.com/story/5776
In case you don't know, Charlie Cook is (along with Stuart Rothenberg and Larry Sabato) one of the three top independent political commentators.
And here is another from Rothenberg
http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/a-traditional-midterm-headache-for-democrats/0 -
BBC cameraman: 10 dead or injured lying on street in Paris.0
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OMG. 18 dead... I feel so sorry for the French.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
Do they find it easier to keep warm?
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
I am of course now wiser.
No, just better informed.
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedant
Oh, dear. The "wiser no just better informed" line was itself a joke (A.P. Herbert, I think, circa 1930), and I have apologised. However, if you insist on taking offence where none was meant I can't help you.ReggieCide said:
The whole post was jokey and not meant as fodder for a pedantHurstLlama said:
I apologise, Mr. Cide, your comment, "I am now wiser" was just too tempting. No offence meant.ReggieCide said:
who rattled your cage? That time of the month?HurstLlama said:
No, just better informed.ReggieCide said:
I am of course now wiser.Richard_Tyndall said:
Harder. They have a higher surface area to mass ratio and so lose heat more quickly...ReggieCide said:
Do they find it easier to keep warm?dr_spyn said:Another coal fired power station to close down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-34810806
Just in time for winter. We are ruled by pygmies.
...sorry I thought you were being serious for a moment :-)
Surely the taking of offence has nothing to do with a judgment of the intention of the giver of offence. I was certainly not looking for help nor can I help you if you're incapable of realising when you're likely to give offence.
I made a joke, you took offence. I have apologised. You won't accept my apology. So can I suggest you go .... yourself.
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Probably chaos enough outside I guess. Someone probably figured out they don't need thousands of fans flooding down the streets at the moment. Might be a wise decision unless they have a specific threat against the stadium.AndyJS said:
The match seems to be going on at the moment. I thought maybe it would have been suspended.Moses_ said:President Hollande was at the stadium near where the shootings And bombings took place and was removed to a safe location.
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They are, just we have a monarch not a President as our Head of State, both elections are normally mid-term protests where only a third of voters turnoutRobD said:
The mid-terms are not analogous to our own local elections!HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
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Sky News are saying hostages have been taken at a concert hall. It would appear to be a third location.0
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No, as TimT has already pointed out general elections have double the turnout of mid-terms and the president is not up for election at mid-term. If we had a US Federal System the last election would have been Cameron v Miliband but Labour may already have won a majority in the House of Commons in 2012 as I already pointed out, politically mid-terms in both the US and UK are a chance to protest the government of the dayRobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout0 -
It is an Ivy League School and I don't deny he is sharp but he is also a populist rabble rouser who should not have his finger on the nuclear button, judgement and temperament are even more important than IQTim_B said:
We don't talk that oftenHYUFD said:
As I am sure he would not fail to remind you!Tim_B said:
Be fair to the man. He went to the Wharton School of Business at Penn. It's very prestigious.HYUFD said:
Trump went to the University of PennsylvaniaMTimT said:
Indeed, for Hillary to be leading Trump by only 2 in PA is shocking. Remember, this is the State that rekindled her hope of winning the nomination in 2008. And the GOP have not won the state in a Presidential election since 1988.Speedy said:
Since 2008 those states have elected republican governors and senators, so there is a danger that if republicans play the protectionist card they could beat the democrats there in a presidential election too.
Hillary is not a shoe in if she leads Trump by 2 in Pennsylvania, by 1 in Ohio and tied in Michigan, those states are big in the electoral college.
Penn is a very good school, the Wharton School of Business even more so.
Say what you like about Trump and his utterances - and frankly they are getting tedious - he is a very intelligent and clever man. Wharton don't take no dummies. His business success speaks for itself.0 -
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If you can't accept an apology honestly given and sincerely meant over the reuse of an old joke at not even your expense, then maybe you should look at yourself rather than call the person who has apologised a pompous prat.0 -
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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The Republicans comfortably won the House election 234-201 in 2012, with the same electorate that chose Obama. It's true that the Democrats polled slightly more votes (48.8% to 47.6%) but then as in any FPTP system, it's where you score the votes that matters.HYUFD said:
Eh? They have just lost two consecutive presidential elections and have lost the popular vote in 5/6 of the last general elections. Yes they won some mid-terms but you may as well say Ed Miliband was a winner because he won the 2012 local elections by a landslideSean_F said:
For some reason, they keep winning.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, but aren't the Republicans fighting a losing battle against unstoppable demographic trends?Sean_F said:
But, any State with a large White Blue Collar population is now moving Right. There's no reason to think that Hillary would do so well now.HYUFD said:
Hillary had her best results in the 2008 primaries in the rusybelt and if she adds Nevada and Colorado she is almost unstoppable. Pennsylvania and Michigan even voted for Kerry they are not going to vote for TrumpSpeedy said:
I think that they can replace that with protectionism that has a bigTim_B said:
I think you're right. But unfortunately an extended conversation on a deportation force to deport 10 + million illegals, splitting up families and invoking memories of Operation Wetback is going to cost Republicans the hispanic vote and the election if they keep it up.HYUFD said:
As I suspected Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bombed with the GOP establishment but went down a storm with the GOP baseCasino_Royale said:
To be honest, on those sorts of figures, mad as it is it might be worth backing Trump on the markets.Speedy said:Well first post GOP debate poll, from Reuters/Ipsos (with changes since the debate):
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/LIKELY_PRIMARY15:1,PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151107-20151113/type/day
Trump 42 (+10)
Carson 23 (-2)
Rubio 9.6 (+0.2)
Cruz 7.4 (- 3.5)
Bush 4.2 (+0.5)
Republicans need to reach out to hispanics, and this won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
In fact, this trend applies across the Western world. Left wing parties depend on students, ethnic minorities, people in artistic professions, public sector workers, university workers, and the poor. Right wing parties depend on the rest.
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Similar shootings happened last yearAndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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A cell that decided to get revenge, or acting on orders from IS HQ?AndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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Oh come on, this takes weeks to plan.RobD said:
A cell that decided to get revenge, or acting on orders from IS HQ?AndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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Well, you can have a plan ready to execute, and wait for the go ahead. I wasn't saying it was planned in the last 12 hours!TheWhiteRabbit said:
Oh come on, this takes weeks to plan.RobD said:
A cell that decided to get revenge, or acting on orders from IS HQ?AndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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Not impossible I suppose. I guess to ISIS the UK and France are pretty much the same.RobD said:
A cell that decided to get revenge, or acting on orders from IS HQ?AndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
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Let's be quite clear - the only difference between a presidential election and mid-terms is that POTUS is not on the ballot. Otherwise they are identical. Mid-term turnout is much lower. They are NOT like local council elections in the UK. We have those too. In fact we had them last week, much to my surprise. There is no UK equivalent to the mid-terms.HYUFD said:
No, as TimT has already pointed out general elections have double the turnout of mid-terms and the president is not up for election at mid-term. If we had a US Federal System the last election would have been Cameron v Miliband but Labour may already have won a majority in the House of Commons in 2012 as I already pointed out, politically mid-terms in both the US and UK are a chance to protest the government of the dayRobD said:
You do realise that the mid-terms are simply "general elections" (as you put it) which don't happen on the same day as a presidential election. They are no different.HYUFD said:
Most presidents normally face opposing parties in Congress, US mid-terms are the equivalent of our local elections, if we had a president and elected Parliament in mid-term too Labour may even have a majority in the House of Commons with Cameron as President. Yet it is the general election and the presidential election which is clearly the major US national election and which has the highest turnout0 -
Nah this in response to french warplanes attacking isis in september.AndyJS said:
Bit of a coincidence that this happened on the same day that Jihadi John was killed.Speedy said:
They have a long history in the middle east and north africa, they have a greater percentage of people from their ex-colonies and they are in an economic stagnation since the euro was created.RobD said:BBC saying 18 dead. What's up with France and terrorism.
This took a bit of planning.
U.K yet to be targeted fot today, unfortunatley.0
