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By far the most recognised UKIP politician is the leader, Nigel Farage, and clearly he’s the one who you’d think would have the best chance of becoming an MP at GE2015.
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You can never be absolutely certain a given bit of software doesn't have known-but-secret security holes, whether by accident or design. But for a piece of software very carefully scrutininzed by paranoid people, who made the original version isn't really a factor.Charles said:
Given that tor software was originally developed by DARPA, and the US government funds 80% of the operating costs, are you sure it's anonymous?edmundintokyo said:
It's legal to run exit nodes, and the IP addresses of exit nodes are publicly available, so you can be traced in any case. So in principle there's no reason not to talk about it on a non-anonymous board.Monkeys said:Are people really stating on a non-anonymous board that they're hosting Tor exit nodes?
Best of luck with that!
IANAL but there are also potentially some legal advantages to being open about it, as the fact that you're not responsible for all the traffic coming from your IP helps protect you if it's used for something subversive or illegal.
I mean really, really, sure...
If I was trying to get some snooping code in widespread use I'd probably go for a larger target like the operating system or graphics libraries, as there are fewer paranoid eyes on those per line of code.0 -
It might not be popular in the party if he big-footed their effective local candidate then went on to lose. If I was him I'd pick a seat I was localish to, which IIUC means Kent. The value one looks like South Thanet, as he ran there in 2005.
PS Scuse the accidental FPT repaste.0 -
Googling this up, Thanet South seems to have a first-term incumbent, so maybe Thanet North is better. Is Roger Gale running again or is he retiring?0
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Edmund,
Good point on Roger Gale. A CON seat where the incumbent is stepping down are always the best possibilities for change.0 -
On the other hand Farage may be too left-wing to follow Roger Gale...MikeSmithson said:Edmund,
Good point on Roger Gale. A CON seat where the incumbent is stepping down are always the best possibilities for change.0 -
Cameron's porno site ban isn't about porno. The real long-term goal is aggressive blocking of piracy sites, which has long been a wish of the big content companies.0
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/10193592/Jean-Francois-Cope-interview-leader-of-French-Right-warns-Cameron-he-will-lose-EU-referendum.html
Interesting view from the French right. The dangers of never asking the plebiscite for positive affirmation for change.0 -
DOn't think Eastleigh is at all likely. Would basically be throwing Diane James out - can't see Farage being able to do that unless he really doesn't care whether UKIP is seen as a serious party or not.
Night all.0 -
Diane James is generally highly rated - but her qualities as a candidate were not the main reason Eastleigh voted for her according to the Ashcroft poll:
Reasons for voting UKIP:
Unhappy with usual party: 83
Unhappy with all main parties: 75
Party you'd like to win next GE: 58
Best Candidate locally: 46
Tactically to stop another party: 40
Best leader nationally: 35
By contrast both Lib Dems (85) and Con (77) thought they had the best local candidate, and Con (78) the best leader nationally.
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@tim - I know those numbers don't fit your narrative - but I think 77/78 candidate/leader a better place to start from than UKIP's 46/35.....the LibDems, appropriately, campaigned on their local strength (88/25) while Labour voters had a higher opinion of their London comic(s) (59/56) than UKIP....0
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Is Farage genuinely interested in becoming an MP? He could not just parachute himself into a place and expect to win. It would mean being based there for a good six months before the GE was called and doing a lot of donkey work - trudging the streets, doing local meetings etc - when he could be on the telly and doing interviews with various fawning newspapers etc. And if he were elected, think of all the constituency work. It may not be his cup of tea.0
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I suspect that, to some extent anyway, it'll depend on the performance on the local councillors. They have the ability to demonstrate competence or otherwise in the minds of the electorate. For that reason I suspect Caroline Lucas will have problems.
Otherwise I'd be inclined to agree with EiT re local identity and take into account the ability to do the campaigning, as referred to by SO.0 -
Kate In Hospital In Labour- Sky News
Let us Unite at that report.0 -
I don't think Constituency work - or indeed attending sittings - has troubled him much as an MEP - if he does stand, he'll focus on the national campaign and fly into his constituency in the final days....he'll spend most of the campaign complaining about not getting on the TV debates - or will bask in the glory of the one he does with Miliband at 2am on QVC....SouthamObserver said:And if he were elected, think of all the constituency work. It may not be his cup of tea.
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How about Witney?
If Farage's aim is simply to become an MP then there may be better seats. To cause chaos in the enemy ranks and maximise the likelihood of acheiving his central policy aim then he has to kill Dave (not literally!). Going for Witney would certainly puthim front and centre in the news and make a 'no TV debate' decision from Dave look very girly.0 -
I think Farage should have a tickle in Bedford especially as we have a PB local reporter of note on the scene !!0
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Politically Boston looks the best bet but as a man of Surrey and Kent I'd guess he may go for one of the Thanets?0
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O/T Sky Pro Cycling car getting attacked by some (probably) drunk French fans.
Any French speakers on here that can translate what was being shouted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJistBOCu8&feature=youtu.be0 -
tim you can be a spiteful and unpleasant human being at times - a shame for someone of your obvious intelligence and energy0
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Good morning, everyone.
Let's hope everything goes smoothly for the Duchess of Cambridge.0 -
He can get away with it as an MEP - in fact, it's what people expect him to do. Being a UKIP MP would be very different.CarlottaVance said:
I don't think Constituency work - or indeed attending sittings - has troubled him much as an MEP - if he does stand, he'll focus on the national campaign and fly into his constituency in the final days....he'll spend most of the campaign complaining about not getting on the TV debates - or will bask in the glory of the one he does with Miliband at 2am on QVC....SouthamObserver said:And if he were elected, think of all the constituency work. It may not be his cup of tea.
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Looks like a great way for Farage's colleagues, friends and family to rake in free cash.
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Should HRH Baby of Cambridge arrive today by Royal Stork then it will be the first time since 23rd June 1894 when HH Prince Edward of York was born that the nation has enjoyed a monarch and three generation of heirs :
HM Queen Victoria mother of HRH The Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) father of The Duke of York (later George V) father of HH Prince Edward of York (later Edward VIII).0 -
Bognor, Sittingbourne and Sheppey, and Folkestone are possibilities. If Angela Watkinson were to stand down, Upminster would be worth contesting.tim said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_East_England_(European_Parliament_constituency)
I'd say you can rule out anywhere not in that seat for starters.
Surely they'll get Diane James to stand again in Eastleigh, particularly if the Tories select the magnificent Maria.
Rule out Buckingham, tried and failed
Spelthorne - Kwasi Kwarteng is too good with too big a majority and Eurosceptic.
Christchurch - Chope out-loons the loons.
New Forest West -Swayne, big maj, army type
Windsor _ Afriyie rumoured to be undermining Cameron (ha ha) Massive Maj
Left with
Thanet North
Thanet South
Isle of Wight
Maidstone.
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Given their longevity, and barring any unfortunate events -- including abolition of the monarchyJackW said:Should HRH Baby of Cambridge arrive today by Royal Stork then it will be the first time since 23rd June 1894 when HH Prince Edward of York was born that the nation has enjoyed a monarch and three generation of heirs :
HM Queen Victoria mother of HRH The Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) father of The Duke of York (later George V) father of HH Prince Edward of York (later Edward VIII).
-- that baby will most likely be our monarch in 2100. Now, thats a sobering though. 0 -
tim's nastiness is in direct proportion to the weakness of his position.....it's when he is sweetness & light that we should worry....not any time soon, I guess....Patrick said:tim you can be a spiteful and unpleasant human being at times - a shame for someone of your obvious intelligence and energy
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UKIP were unable to take Eastleigh in a by election when fielding a good candidate at the peak of the Faragasm. The party is hardly likely to take the seat at the GE and would be better to leave the constituency to be fought by a good Eurosceptic Tory,
One of the two Thanets is the obvious candidate.
The constituencies are near Ashford for fast Eurostar links to Brussels and London; there is strong local organisation (the kippers took all before them in May); Farage has local knowledge and exposure (he fought Thanet South in 2005); the seats complement his European Parliament seat; and there is strong financial support present (Alan Bone, the notorious UKIP donor, is a Thanet man).
Of the two Thanet seats the more likely is Thanet South as Roger Gale's seat (Thanet North) has a 52% majority to overturn whereas South was Labour through the Blair years and could act more like a three way marginal. Also the first time incumbent, Laura Sandys is a noted Europhile and therefore a good target for Farage,0 -
Since she went by car to the hospital at 6 am in the early stages of labour that may be unlikely....tim said:
Clarence House:
"Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cambridge has been admitted this morning to St Mary's Hospital, Paddington, London, in the early stages of labour.
The Duchess travelled by car from Kensington Palace to the Lindo Wing at St Mary's Hospital with The Duke of Cambridge."
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Scots law ‘could face challenge in Europe’
A former Lord Advocate has intervened in the growing row over corroboration in Scots law and warned that the centuries-old rule could be subject to a challenge at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article3822128.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_07_21
Dame Elish Angiolini said yesterday that the rule, unique in jurisdictions in Europe, needed to change to ensure more rape case convictions.
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Report from a LibDem source in the Lindo Wing is that the Duchess of Cambridge is :
"Giving Birth Here"0 -
MODERATED.
Can you explain what was appalling about it?
What is unreasonable about hoping that David Cameron's constant citing of the fact that he is a father be wiped from our TV screens by an event that will hopefully bring the country together?
More rational folk than you might conclude that your comments about Blair and his son are slightly more appalling.
I wonder how many folk on here will pull you up on it.
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I can just imagine the fury on here if Tim had made a similar comment about a Tory's child. Wonderful stuff!Blue_rog said:
MODERATEDrichardDodd said:re tims appalling remark, let him be reminded that Blair is a father too , didn't stop him ordering the destruction of thousands of children lives and families , nor could he keep his son out of the gutter...some father..
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Mr. Dickson, what's the supposed issue?0
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Non pay wall :Stuart_Dickson said:Scots law ‘could face challenge in Europe’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23395050
Sounds tricky:The Scottish government has already proposed abolishing the rule.
It has brought forward the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill which would drop the general requirement for corroboration in court cases.
It would also introduce safeguards such as increasing the number of jurors required for a majority guilty verdict.
The move has been opposed by the legal profession, including judges.
The Law Society of Scotland has described corroboration as a "fundamental principle" of the justice system.
It has said removing it could simply result in a contest between two statements on oath and, as a result, bring increased risk of miscarriages of justice.0 -
The Lib Dems will hold Eastleigh by campaigning on their local record - Nick Who?AveryLP said:UKIP were unable to take Eastleigh in a by election when fielding a good candidate at the peak of the Faragasm. The party is hardly likely to take the seat at the GE ,
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So... let's look at the actualiteSouthamObserver said:
I can just imagine the fury on here if Tim had made a similar comment about a Tory's child. Wonderful stuff!Blue_rog said:
Probably bought the bucky from some dodgy offy.richardDodd said:re tims appalling remark, let him be reminded that Blair is a father too , didn't stop him ordering the destruction of thousands of children lives and families , nor could he keep his son out of the gutter...some father..
He was found drunk and incapable in the street - fact
he was underage - fact
as he was underage, he obtained the alcohol illegally - fact
the alcohol was provided by:
a - his parents
b- his friends
c- from either a supermarket or off license without checks, i.e. dodgy
d- obtained as above using a forged id card
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Cheers for the link, Miss Vance.0
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NO MORE INSULTS ABOUT BLAIR OR CAMERON>0
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Did you never enjoy a tipple or two before the age of 18?
IMV Euan was let down by his mates as iirc he was out celebrating his GCSEs.
As a pub goer of many years. You look after your mates when they are the worse for wear.Blue_rog said:
So... let's look at the actualiteSouthamObserver said:
I can just imagine the fury on here if Tim had made a similar comment about a Tory's child. Wonderful stuff!Blue_rog said:
Probably bought the bucky from some dodgy offy.richardDodd said:re tims appalling remark, let him be reminded that Blair is a father too , didn't stop him ordering the destruction of thousands of children lives and families , nor could he keep his son out of the gutter...some father..
He was found drunk and incapable in the street - fact
he was underage - fact
as he was underage, he obtained the alcohol illegally - fact
the alcohol was provided by:
a - his parents
b- his friends
c- from either a supermarket or off license without checks, i.e. dodgy
d- obtained as above using a forged id card0 -
richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.0
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THE SUBJECT OF EUAN BLAIR IS CLOSED0
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Why did Prince William accompany Princess William to the Lindo Wing?
He should be on a golf course or polo field.
This royal birth is becoming distinctly suburban.0 -
It's a shame the news has brought out the worst in PB today.
I am highly dubious about the net-nanny legislation. There are several issues that have been mentioned on here before, from the availability of software to circumvent the blocks, to issues of what constitutes pornography, to management issues (how can a website know it is blocked, and get the block removed?)
According to the Beeb, the worst sites are not on the search engines, and are passed around by word-of-mouth. Any filtering system would either have to be automatic (and therefore prone to false-positives) or very reactive.
Such talk has already had an effect in the US:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/19/smut_lovers_in_dirty_protest_over_tumblr_pornageddon/
I wonder if Miliband will back the legislation, given his 'as a father' concerns:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html0 -
Disgusting, tim.tim said:@paulwaugh: Ex-CEOP chief Jim Gamble: real funding needed to tackle root causes of abuse, rather than 'a pop-up that paedophiles will laugh at' #r4today
Jim is missing the point of Camerons speech
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Camerons plans are a bit of a figleaf, but probably popular.0
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Mr. Jessop, I quite agree.0
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No tim, you're not. This kind of thing is just something which any and all Politicans do. In fact Miliband has done it already on the exact same subject.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
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It is not posturing in the least, tim.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
You will be able to work this out by consulting the gender balance in future voting intention polls.
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I am sure there are places in said facility where the prince can keep cool while enjoying a scotch and cigar or two as he waits for events to unfold. The ladies in waiting will keep him informed of progress.AveryLP said:Why did Prince William accompany Princess William to the Lindo Wing?
He should be on a golf course or polo field.
This royal birth is becoming distinctly suburban.
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O/T Burnhams staff allegedly removing "Negative" references from his Wikipedia CV, if they keep going it will soo be a blank page..(ref Guido/Mail)0
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Indeed:Slackbladder said:
No tim, you're not. This kind of thing is just something which any and all Politicans do. In fact Miliband has done it already on the exact same subject.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
"Ed Miliband has spoken of his worries that his two boys will stumble across hard core porn on the internet.
The Labour leader said that ‘like any parent’ he was concerned about how easy it is for Daniel, four, and 2-year-old Sam to see violent adult images on mobile phones or computers.
Labour supports the Daily Mail in its campaign for an automatic block – a stance reiterated by Mr Miliband last night."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html#ixzz2Zl608ZUh
Remember how tim ridiculed that at the time, posting ceaselessly on the topic?
No, neither do I.0 -
Golly - what is going on this morning - has @malcolmG's chamberpot been doing the rounds?
On the subject of the Royal Baby - I'm hoping for a quick and safe delivery so we can all survive the Witchall Witterings about it.
It's been ages since we had a new baby - it will of course be beautiful, and look nothing like Churchill :^ )0 -
Thanet South looks a good shot.
Not convinced. Galloway is not known for being a good constituency MP - which may be why he keeps changing. But people don't vote for him because they expect him to sort out their neighbour problems or indeed attend committees in the Commons.SouthamObserver said:
He can get away with it as an MEP - in fact, it's what people expect him to do. Being a UKIP MP would be very different.CarlottaVance said:
I don't think Constituency work - or indeed attending sittings - has troubled him much as an MEP - if he does stand, he'll focus on the national campaign and fly into his constituency in the final days....he'll spend most of the campaign complaining about not getting on the TV debates - or will bask in the glory of the one he does with Miliband at 2am on QVC....SouthamObserver said:And if he were elected, think of all the constituency work. It may not be his cup of tea.
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Not strictly accurate [this is for PB's pedants who could suck the life out of any punnery] but amusing
RT @keirshiels: On Her Majesty's Cervix #royalbaby < LOL0 -
On the topic of the P*rn filter.
I presume that sites that titillate needlessly, and use scantily clad ladies to lure in the punters, will also be on the list?
Starting with the Daily Mail.0 -
Why will Caroline have to rely on others to demonstrate her competence when she will have her own track record as an MP (and before that, MEP) to stand on?OldKingCole said:I suspect that, to some extent anyway, it'll depend on the performance on the local councillors. They have the ability to demonstrate competence or otherwise in the minds of the electorate. For that reason I suspect Caroline Lucas will have problems.
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On the porn screen, I don't really feel strongly, but presumably the main effect will be to screen out casual porn users. Anyone into serious stuff will surely not blink at clicking "yes" when asked whether they want the screen lifted. It's not obvious to me that there is a crucial public interest in stopping the idly curious, and I'm not really in favour of legislating when there's no strong reason. But it's the sort of proposal that will get support from all front benches.0
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What price Thurrock? Farage has campaigned there about the QE2 bridge toll being abolished and in my book it is one of the more likely constituencies for ukip.
My constituency of Hornchurch & Upminster could be a runner, as Sean F says.
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Surely the Lib Dems exist to oppose nonsense like this?NickPalmer said:But it's the sort of proposal that will get support from all front benches.
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The real concern re the proposed filter is that once politicians have established the principle of controlling what we can view on the internet, they can move onto other stuff a la Chinese. It's an illiberal policy. Parents are - and should be - responsible for controlling what their children view and teaching them.Next said:On the topic of the P*rn filter.
I presume that sites that titillate needlessly, and use scantily clad ladies to lure in the punters, will also be on the list?
Starting with the Daily Mail.
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Re Cameron's porn speech - I'm against it on principle if it involves the idea of a central database like last time. That was a stupid idea that was open to abuse in future.
If its requiring ISPs to re-ask existing customers if they want to keep their current settings or new customers what they want - fine.
Frankly, I think he's barking up entirely the wrong tree - those who participate in this stuff know where to go and pass between themselves. There used to be seach engines like Lycos who's selling point was that they didn't censor the results - I've no idea if that's still the case, I assume there are others that will offer this either overtly or covertly.
I've never ever tripped across child porn - and haven't seen porn by accident on the net for years and years.
I get the impression Cameron is a rather protective and small-c conservative dad. This is just another manifestation of it - like wanting to ban Playboy bunny kids t-shirts. I imagine many dads will share his views. I gather EdM isn't happy about it either.
As an aside - a few years ago, after it was mentioned many times in the press as 'being easy', I tried to find websites that would tell me how to build a fertalizer bomb - I failed. Now my Google Fu isn't exactly black belt but I gave it my best shot and results there came none. I assume the major search engines block these as a default.0 -
How on earth is porn going to be defined? What counts, what doesn't? What percentage of a site's content has to be deemed "porographic" before it is covered?NickPalmer said:On the porn screen, I don't really feel strongly, but presumably the main effect will be to screen out casual porn users. Anyone into serious stuff will surely not blink at clicking "yes" when asked whether they want the screen lifted. It's not obvious to me that there is a crucial public interest in stopping the idly curious, and I'm not really in favour of legislating when there's no strong reason. But it's the sort of proposal that will get support from all front benches.
This is an absurd idea.
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The problem with general all purpose blocks is that they do not block all they should and block some sites that they should not .NickPalmer said:On the porn screen, I don't really feel strongly, but presumably the main effect will be to screen out casual porn users. Anyone into serious stuff will surely not blink at clicking "yes" when asked whether they want the screen lifted. It's not obvious to me that there is a crucial public interest in stopping the idly curious, and I'm not really in favour of legislating when there's no strong reason. But it's the sort of proposal that will get support from all front benches.
A general block on gambling sites for example may well block this site simply because it has "betting" in the title .
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That's another potential problem with the scheme - governmental interference. Once the capability is there to do this sort of thing, and it is routinely done, it will be possible for a government with an agenda to extend the remit to things other than pornography. As EiT? said earlier, file-sharing sites will soon be included.Next said:On the topic of the P*rn filter.
I presume that sites that titillate needlessly, and use scantily clad ladies to lure in the punters, will also be on the list?
Starting with the Daily Mail.
But then there are the overtly political things that could be done - as a slightly ridiculous example, blocking websites of rival political parties to anyone but people who sign up for that party. And those people are on a list the government has access to.
If this goes through, I can see the remit being extended within a couple of years to cover other areas the 'think of the children!' reactionary idiots will deem necessary.
That's not to say it shouldn't happen - just that it'll be difficult and somewhat change the nature of the 'net.0 -
Why don't you read his initial posting on the subject on this thread? I quote:CarlottaVance said:
Indeed:Slackbladder said:
No tim, you're not. This kind of thing is just something which any and all Politicans do. In fact Miliband has done it already on the exact same subject.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
"Ed Miliband has spoken of his worries that his two boys will stumble across hard core porn on the internet.
The Labour leader said that ‘like any parent’ he was concerned about how easy it is for Daniel, four, and 2-year-old Sam to see violent adult images on mobile phones or computers.
Labour supports the Daily Mail in its campaign for an automatic block – a stance reiterated by Mr Miliband last night."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html#ixzz2Zl608ZUh
Remember how tim ridiculed that at the time, posting ceaselessly on the topic?
No, neither do I.
Can someone invent a filter to block politicians who tell us about their children please.
(And yes PB Tories I know that Labour and Lib Dem politicians will trail along haplessly with this charade)
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Oh gawd !!!!!!!!!!
Kate Burley or Nicholas Witchall
Duchess save us !!!!!!!!!!0 -
CarlottaVance said:
Non pay wall :Stuart_Dickson said:Scots law ‘could face challenge in Europe’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23395050
Sounds tricky:The Scottish government has already proposed abolishing the rule.
It has brought forward the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill which would drop the general requirement for corroboration in court cases.
It would also introduce safeguards such as increasing the number of jurors required for a majority guilty verdict.
The move has been opposed by the legal profession, including judges.
The Law Society of Scotland has described corroboration as a "fundamental principle" of the justice system.
It has said removing it could simply result in a contest between two statements on oath and, as a result, bring increased risk of miscarriages of justice.
I remain unconvinced of the merits of abolishing corroboration. The problems far outweigh the supposed benefits.
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Why didn't tim post ceaselessly about it when Miliband Mail pandered too?SouthamObserver said:
Why don't you read his initial posting on the subject on this thread?CarlottaVance said:
Indeed:Slackbladder said:
No tim, you're not. This kind of thing is just something which any and all Politicans do. In fact Miliband has done it already on the exact same subject.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
"Ed Miliband has spoken of his worries that his two boys will stumble across hard core porn on the internet.
The Labour leader said that ‘like any parent’ he was concerned about how easy it is for Daniel, four, and 2-year-old Sam to see violent adult images on mobile phones or computers.
Labour supports the Daily Mail in its campaign for an automatic block – a stance reiterated by Mr Miliband last night."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html#ixzz2Zl608ZUh
Remember how tim ridiculed that at the time, posting ceaselessly on the topic?
No, neither do I.
We know the answer.....0 -
Royal baby:
If its a boy, how about Joe Froome Windsor ?
As to Farage's seat - Not sure where really, could be any one of about 9...0 -
Mr. Observer, you're exactly right.
Mr. Senior, I entirely agree. Quite some time ago I really like donline personality tests and quizzes (from 'serious' ones like Myers-Briggs to Fantasy RPG CLass Test silliness [I'm a Psionic Striker, incidentally]). One of them tripped an anti-adult material filter. I had it disabled, and even after doing the test I had no idea what caused the block. There were no pictures and I don't think there were any references to adult stuff (violence/sex, etc).0 -
Is there an actual plan to legislate there? It's all a bit confusing - there doesn't seem to be much in terms of actual proposals, at this point all that seems to have been announced is a bunch of keywords that could have been created by scraping The Daily Mail for things that appear on the same page as "internet".NickPalmer said:On the porn screen, I don't really feel strongly, but presumably the main effect will be to screen out casual porn users. Anyone into serious stuff will surely not blink at clicking "yes" when asked whether they want the screen lifted. It's not obvious to me that there is a crucial public interest in stopping the idly curious, and I'm not really in favour of legislating when there's no strong reason. But it's the sort of proposal that will get support from all front benches.
My impression reading the letter from leaked ISP letter last week was that the government is just "asking" them to do things a certain way. It looked to me like the idea is just to work by applying informal pressure on them, which has the advantage of cutting parliament (and the LibDems?) out of the loop. Consumers would be technically free to choose a non-compliant provider, but the only choices they'll have in practice will be part of the ministerially-compliant cartel.0 -
Speaking of the absurdity of this - Bill Clinton's V Chip that supposedly blocked out tv shows with violence/porn in them didn't get very far either IIRC as knowledge levels, parental apathy, technical issues got in the way.
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Not sure for the kids what would be worse, hard core porn or hearing Scottish Questions at his place of work. Spitting Image could not parody what is the sad reality of those involved in the governance amidst ridicule of the North British enclave.CarlottaVance said:
Indeed:Slackbladder said:
No tim, you're not. This kind of thing is just something which any and all Politicans do. In fact Miliband has done it already on the exact same subject.tim said:
Really?Slackbladder said:richarddodd is out of order...but no different to tim.
I'm making a serious point about Camerons posturing that I'm sure even many PB Tories agree with.
"Ed Miliband has spoken of his worries that his two boys will stumble across hard core porn on the internet.
The Labour leader said that ‘like any parent’ he was concerned about how easy it is for Daniel, four, and 2-year-old Sam to see violent adult images on mobile phones or computers.
Labour supports the Daily Mail in its campaign for an automatic block – a stance reiterated by Mr Miliband last night."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349927/Miliband-reveals-fears-sons-aged-access-porn-smartphones.html#ixzz2Zl608ZUh
Remember how tim ridiculed that at the time, posting ceaselessly on the topic?
No, neither do I.
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Did the site mention Penistone or Scunthorpe?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, you're exactly right.
Mr. Senior, I entirely agree. Quite some time ago I really like donline personality tests and quizzes (from 'serious' ones like Myers-Briggs to Fantasy RPG CLass Test silliness [I'm a Psionic Striker, incidentally]). One of them tripped an anti-adult material filter. I had it disabled, and even after doing the test I had no idea what caused the block. There were no pictures and I don't think there were any references to adult stuff (violence/sex, etc).0 -
Miss Plato, too long ago for me to be certain but I don't believe so. Nor was Windowbottom mentioned.0
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Which is why Eastleigh would be a bad choice for Farage - the LibDems are going to go on their local record and if Farage stands will no doubt give him both barrels on his MEP record.NickPalmer said:Thanet South looks a good shot.
Not convinced. Galloway is not known for being a good constituency MP - which may be why he keeps changing. But people don't vote for him because they expect him to sort out their neighbour problems or indeed attend committees in the Commons.SouthamObserver said:
He can get away with it as an MEP - in fact, it's what people expect him to do. Being a UKIP MP would be very different.CarlottaVance said:
I don't think Constituency work - or indeed attending sittings - has troubled him much as an MEP - if he does stand, he'll focus on the national campaign and fly into his constituency in the final days....he'll spend most of the campaign complaining about not getting on the TV debates - or will bask in the glory of the one he does with Miliband at 2am on QVC....SouthamObserver said:And if he were elected, think of all the constituency work. It may not be his cup of tea.
What Farage needs is a retiring "absentee" Tory MP.....last time the Guardian checked Edward Leigh had the poorest non-ministerial voting record:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2011/sep/08/reality-check-britain-s-laziest-mp
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Surely Farage should stand against a Euroholic ?
Ken Clarke ?
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I'll put the positive case in favour of the porn filter, since nobody else seems to want to.
Britain's national security will be increasingly dependent on ability to attack and defend networks. Doing this will require young people skilled in network security (both offence and defence), starting at an early age. I can't think of any better way to create a generation of hackers than putting a bunch of network security measures between 14-year-old boys and their porn.0 -
James Manning @JamesManning4
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A very asture point and one which will plague UKIP wherever they appear to be a threat.CarlottaVance said:
Which is why Eastleigh would be a bad choice for Farage - the LibDems are going to go on their local record and if Farage stands will no doubt give him both barrels on his MEP record.
Voters want something different in an MP than an MEP.
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If you click on the red X in the top right corner you make their whole insipid handwringing luvvie rag disappear.Plato said:James Manning @JamesManning4
Bless. On the @guardian homepage, click the 'Republican' button to make all their royal coverage disappear pic.twitter.com/0NoViO74UA
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Cameron?TGOHF said:Surely Farage should stand against a Euroholic ?
Ken Clarke ?
Of course after UKIP's stunning Mcbreakthrough, it has to be a Scottish seat.
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If you click on the red X in the top right corner you make their whole insipid handwringing luvvie rag disappear.Plato said:James Manning @JamesManning4
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Since Ken Clarke's voters keep re-electing him, perhaps they are Europhiles too? Or that Europe does not figure highly in their calculation when deciding who their MP should be?TGOHF said:Surely Farage should stand against a Euroholic Ken Clarke ?
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General Election, 2010: Rushcliffe [6][7]CarlottaVance said:
Since Ken Clarke's voters keep re-electing him, perhaps they are Europhiles too? Or that Europe does not figure highly in their calculation when deciding who their MP should be?TGOHF said:Surely Farage should stand against a Euroholic Ken Clarke ?
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
Conservative Kenneth Clarke 27,470 51.2 +3.1
Liberal Democrat Karrar Khan 11,659 21.7 +4.4
Labour Andrew Clayworth 11,128 20.7 −6.7
UKIP Matthew Faithfull 2,179 4.1 +1.6
Green Richard Mallender 1,251 2.3 −1.2
Majority 15,811 29.5
Turnout 53,687 73.6 +3.6
Conservative hold Swing -0.6
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Toby Harnden @tobyharnden
Shouldn't this be a Venn diagram? MT @FelicityMorse: @BuzzFeedUK I love you. Today, for your royal baby pie chart. pic.twitter.com/76IaBiNgR50 -
I'm opting in to online porn, but opting out of voting for mainstream politicians. I might take up smoking, just to pee Cameron off, whilst supping ale from a 3 for 2 offer, just for good measure.0
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I assume that Farage will firstly stand again as an MEP. If he is serious about becoming an MP then will he stand in a region that contains the constituency he wishes to contest in Parliament even if it is not where he is an MEP now? This would boost his local coverage in the year building up to the GE.0
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More great local news photo stories - this one with a snake in Bexley
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Yes, I'd have expected him to be the sort of no-nonsense "stuff your drains problems, I'm a big picture man" safe seat MP, but I gather (from LibDem and Labour friends who live in Rushcliffe) that he's quite good at constituency stuff, will come and see you and pursues obscure issues, like who authorised tree X to be be cut down, with reasonable vigour. They are reluctantly impressed, and I could see them rallying roubnd him if they thought Farage was in with a shot.CarlottaVance said:
Since Ken Clarke's voters keep re-electing him, perhaps they are Europhiles too? Or that Europe does not figure highly in their calculation when deciding who their MP should be?TGOHF said:Surely Farage should stand against a Euroholic Ken Clarke ?
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Lewis Baston @lewis_baston
Old 'Times Guide' mini biogs of MPs and candidates can be curious. Lab MP (1929) 'He has been a cowboy, a gold prospector and a journalist'0 -
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If you want blame someone for the incessant #RoyalBaby coverage, try Oliver Cromwell. He was given a very simple task and he ballsed it up.
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I can't see why Farage would want to take the drop in income. It's not as if Westminster is the most attractive place to manage your finances.0
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Politico Daily @Politico_Daily 38m
"which of these ensures the NHS has sound finances & delivers good value for money?" Con 23% Lab 27% LD 6% None 29% Don't know 14% #YouGov0
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