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JEO said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JEO said:

I hope the Remain campaign take a leaf out of this new group's book and have a campaign based around impressive independent politicians. If they go down the celebrity route over something as important as our country's future, then it will seriously diminish their side.

I think they'll go for someone from industry, to push the economic risks of leaving the EU angle to the fore.

The problem with someone from industry is that they can be accused of having a vested interests. They'd have to pick them well so it's not a company that benefits from cheap labour or EU grants.

Speedy said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

@bbclaurak: New referendum campaign 'Vote Leave - Take Control' going live right now - more on @bbcnews in a min

@bbclaurak: Campaign has politicians and money from Tory and Labour MPs and donors, and UKIPs Douglas Carswell and cash from Stuart Wheeler

Already a member of Leave.EU - I will join Vote Leave now as well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34478008

"This new campaign, Vote Leave, is funded by major Conservative donor and City millionaire Peter Cruddas, John Mills, Labour's biggest private financial backer, and Stuart Wheeler, for years a Tory donor but more recently a supporter of UKIP."

"The expectation is that they will spend up to £20m, around half the amount the Tories spent in the 12 months before the election.
And it will fold in three existing campaign groups: Conservatives for Britain, Business for Britain and the Labour Leave campaign."

They won't be short of resources.

Goodnight

TheScreamingEagles said:

JEO said:

I hope the Remain campaign take a leaf out of this new group's book and have a campaign based around impressive independent politicians. If they go down the celebrity route over something as important as our country's future, then it will seriously diminish their side.

I think they'll go for someone from industry, to push the economic risks of leaving the EU angle to the fore.

JEO said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Looks interesting and what a lot of PBers have been saying for a while

"Vote leave - take control."

The message of a new, cross-party campaign vying to get the UK to leave the EU could hardly be clearer.

On Friday, the group, which contains politicians and, crucially, financial backers from across the political spectrum, launches officially.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34478008

Fantastic news. It must be kept warm, positive and internationalist in tone to win.

Lawson, Hoey and Carswell is a fantastic line-up that covers all the bases.

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JEO said:

I hope the Remain campaign take a leaf out of this new group's book and have a campaign based around impressive independent politicians. If they go down the celebrity route over something as important as our country's future, then it will seriously diminish their side.

I think they'll go for someone from industry, to push the economic risks of leaving the EU angle to the fore.

A spokesmen from big business (such as the CBI and IoD) might not necessarily help them.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

@bbclaurak: New referendum campaign 'Vote Leave - Take Control' going live right now - more on @bbcnews in a min

@bbclaurak: Campaign has politicians and money from Tory and Labour MPs and donors, and UKIPs Douglas Carswell and cash from Stuart Wheeler

Already a member of Leave.EU - I will join Vote Leave now as well.

If you find it, could you send me a link to Vote Leave now.

I might sign up

SandyRentool said:

Surely there must be a suitable vacancy for someone with Blatter's abilities in the European Commission?

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Looks like the Mail and the Brittan family are going after Tom Watson

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ0zIHpW8AAqMOP.jpg

Casino_Royale said:

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

Brave.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Looks interesting and what a lot of PBers have been saying for a while

"Vote leave - take control."

The message of a new, cross-party campaign vying to get the UK to leave the EU could hardly be clearer.

On Friday, the group, which contains politicians and, crucially, financial backers from across the political spectrum, launches officially.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34478008

MP_SE said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Looks interesting and what a lot of PBers have been saying for a while

"Vote leave - take control."

The message of a new, cross-party campaign vying to get the UK to leave the EU could hardly be clearer.

On Friday, the group, which contains politicians and, crucially, financial backers from across the political spectrum, launches officially.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34478008

Absolutely fantastic news and is exactly the sort of organisation I will be happy to campaign for.

Not sure the poll in the Express with Out on 53% has been mentioned yet:

twitter.com/SkyNews/status/652226806536404992

Danny565 said:

Tim Farron on Question Time - do leaders of the "major" parties usually go on it?

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

@bbclaurak: New referendum campaign 'Vote Leave - Take Control' going live right now - more on @bbcnews in a min

@bbclaurak: Campaign has politicians and money from Tory and Labour MPs and donors, and UKIPs Douglas Carswell and cash from Stuart Wheeler

Already a member of Leave.EU - I will join Vote Leave now as well.

If you find it, could you send me a link to Vote Leave now.

I might sign up

Of course I will. I'd be delighted and honoured to campaign alongside you.

I'd like to think my campaigning skills are pretty good, as my ability to analyse how it is on the ground (as evidenced by my reports from West Yorkshire during the election campaign)

I'm still not sure how I'm going to vote, probable Leave due to my old clients in the financial services and banking industries.

The question is do you want a Quisling on your side?

Luke 15:7 and all that TSE ;-)

isam said:

Tim_B said:

isam said:

Cyclefree said:

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/in-defence-of-theresa-mays-immigration-remarks/

An argument often cited by cretins on here, so easily dismissed it is embarrassing for them

Care to explain what is cretinous about it?

Because the places that are heavily populated by immigrants cannot help but have large population of people who are pro immigrant, being immigrants themselves..

Tim used this terrible argument all the time regarding polls showing people in London being wildly in favour of immigration, and other left wingers on here, some who are also Tories, regurgitate it.. most people in London are the children of immigrants or are from other parts of the UK.. they are either closely related to immigrants or are "immigrants" themselves

The places next door to those populated by immigrants are generally anti immigration... precisely because they see the dramatic changes to their nearby towns and don't want it to happen where they live, or have moved from those towns to escape

I gave the example of Upminster and Hornchurch, where I live, compared to Barking. I can guarantee that v few people indeed move from U&H to B but plenty move in the opposite direction. I would think it rings true from most outer London towns compared to those 5 miles inward.

Danny565 said:

Priti Patel is such a stunner. Shame she has all the warmth of a Dalek.

foxinsoxuk said:

Danny565 said:

Priti Patel is such a stunner. Shame she has all the warmth of a Dalek.

She is no Lisa Nandy...

Dair said:

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

There's really no point following the Scottish men's national team, the game in Scotland is on its knees and the club competition is utterly bereft of entertainment or quality.

The women's team are our better hope for both European and World Cup wins (not just qualification, actual wins). Qualification for Euro 2017 is pretty much certain and the team is not far off being capable of winning. By 2019, I'm quite hopefully Scotland can look for a top 4 finish in the World Cup.

Dair said:

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

There's really no point following the Scottish men's national team, the game in Scotland is on its knees and the club competition is utterly bereft of entertainment or quality.

The women's team are our better hope for both European and World Cup wins (not just qualification, actual wins). Qualification for Euro 2017 is pretty much certain and the team is not far off being capable of winning. By 2019, I'm quite hopefully Scotland can look for a top 4 finish in the World Cup.

Tim_B said:

isam said:

Tim_B said:

isam said:

Cyclefree said:

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/in-defence-of-theresa-mays-immigration-remarks/

An argument often cited by cretins on here, so easily dismissed it is embarrassing for them

Care to explain what is cretinous about it?

Because the places that are heavily populated by immigrants cannot help but have large population of people who are pro immigrant, being immigrants themselves..

Tim used this terrible argument all the time regarding polls showing people in London being wildly in favour of immigration, and other left wingers on here, some who are also Tories, regurgitate it.. most people in London are the children of immigrants or are from other parts of the UK.. they are either closely related to immigrants or are "immigrants" themselves

The places next door to those populated by immigrants are generally anti immigration... precisely because they see the dramatic changes to their nearby towns and don't want it to happen where they live, or have moved from those towns to escape

I gave the example of Upminster and Hornchurch, where I live, compared to Barking. I can guarantee that v few people indeed move from U&H to B but plenty move in the opposite direction. I would think it rings true from most outer London towns compared to those 5 miles inward.

I've made immigration something of a hobby, changing my country of residence 6 times over my life, have both UK and US citizenship, and I'm not in favor of mass immigration, particularly if they won't integrate.

When I lived in Yorkshire as a kid, Bradford was mainly white. When I left there 10 years later in the late 60s, it was mainly what we then called 'pakis'.

There's nothing theoretical about white flight. You see the results of it here all the time.

Tim_B said:

Dair said:

antifrank said:

Am I right in thinking that Scotland cannae dae it 'cause they didnae qualify?

There's really no point following the Scottish men's national team, the game in Scotland is on its knees and the club competition is utterly bereft of entertainment or quality.

The women's team are our better hope for both European and World Cup wins (not just qualification, actual wins). Qualification for Euro 2017 is pretty much certain and the team is not far off being capable of winning. By 2019, I'm quite hopefully Scotland can look for a top 4 finish in the World Cup.

There was once an NFL Europe team called the Scottish Claymores. Maybe that's worth a try

AndyJS said:

The Polish governing party is seemingly heading for a serious defeat on 25th October. The latest poll puts them on 19% compared to 39% at the last election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015#Opinion_polls

AndyJS said:

The Polish governing party is seemingly heading for a serious defeat on 25th October. The latest poll puts them on 19% compared to 39% at the last election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015#Opinion_polls

Dair said:

AndyJS said:

The Polish governing party is seemingly heading for a serious defeat on 25th October. The latest poll puts them on 19% compared to 39% at the last election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015#Opinion_polls

Poland should be nuked. They have nothing worth preserving and no longer deserve to exist. Also Ireland. What's the point of having nuclear weapons if we refuse to use them.

MaxPB said:

Dair said:

AndyJS said:

The Polish governing party is seemingly heading for a serious defeat on 25th October. The latest poll puts them on 19% compared to 39% at the last election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015#Opinion_polls

Poland should be nuked. They have nothing worth preserving and no longer deserve to exist. Also Ireland. What's the point of having nuclear weapons if we refuse to use them.

I like Poland, what do you loathe about it so much?

foxinsoxuk said:

Hosie blinks a lot. Balls always did too.

Dair said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Hosie blinks a lot. Balls always did too.

Whatever his condition is with his eyes, it seems to be exacerbated by him taking off his specs. Dunno why he's been told to do it because the blinking looks a hell of a lot worse than wearing glasses does.

isam said:

Priti just waffles doesn't she? I think I only rated her because she is half tidy

Nandy looks constantly on the verge of tears

Dair said:

Pulpstar said:

Dair said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Hosie blinks a lot. Balls always did too.

Whatever his condition is with his eyes, it seems to be exacerbated by him taking off his specs. Dunno why he's been told to do it because the blinking looks a hell of a lot worse than wearing glasses does.

Is it related to his stroke ?

Wasn't aware he had had a stroke but I've seen him do the "take off the glasses" thing a few times starting on Election Night. And it always looks bloody stupid. He doesn't blink when he keeps his glasses on.

I don't know where he got the advice, if he thinks it might help him to the SNP leadership after Sturgeon but, frankly, there isn't going to be any leader other than Humza Yousaf, so I don't know what he's trying to be honest.

He justs end up looking stupid. Constant blinking does not come across well.

Pulpstar said:

How on earth is "Europe" relating to our security. That's NATO surely !

Dair said:

MaxPB said:

Dair said:

AndyJS said:

The Polish governing party is seemingly heading for a serious defeat on 25th October. The latest poll puts them on 19% compared to 39% at the last election:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015#Opinion_polls

Poland should be nuked. They have nothing worth preserving and no longer deserve to exist. Also Ireland. What's the point of having nuclear weapons if we refuse to use them.

I like Poland, what do you loathe about it so much?

I don't loathe anything about it. It;s just not a country. Bits of Lithuania, bits of Germany, bits of Bohemia, bits of Ukraine, bits of Belarus and pretending to be an actual place. It's much like England, an artificial nation.