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  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    watford30 said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Immigrants, or striking protestors?

    Sky are reporting that the latter have invaded the Eurostar terminal.
    Sky never wrong for long

    Probably or possibly it's an utter mess looking at the TV pics. It was apparently "a no notice strike "which made the problem much worse over a short space of time.

    Trains in transit have been stopped and will all return to place of departure ---SKY news.
  • watford30
    watford30 Posts: 3,474
    edited June 2015
    jayfdee said:

    watford30 said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Immigrants, or striking protestors?

    Sky are reporting that the latter have invaded the Eurostar terminal.
    Notice board here suggests strikers on the line.
    Makes more sense than illegals. But less exciting for the usual suspects here.

    Mates on the gates, let their striking brothers through security. 'MyFerryLink' was owned by Eurotunnel until 10 days ago, so there are obvious 'sympathies' between the two sets of employees.
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    @calum

    'Further evidence that the mainstream parties are in decline - it'd be interesting to know which events they had to resort to hiring a crowd !!'

    At least it wasn't rent-a-mob.
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
    Sorry to hear that. Find another route as all services are cancelled at the moment for today.

    That came from Eurostar and was reported via Sky news.

    Might not have much luck on the ferries either by the sounds of it.


  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Our membership, or not of the EU wouldn't chance anything wih regards to illegals trying to get to Dover from Calais....

    I think.
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    For a proper balanced thread

    With or Without EU
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    Looks like the strikers got round police diverted by immigrants:

    Eurostar passengers were today facing chaos as all services were cancelled after protesters got into its terminal in France.

    Journeys to Britain were aborted as wildcat strikes by French ferry workers spilled over from Calais.

    The workers entered the Eurotunnel terminal hours after riot police were called in to try to hold back hundreds of UK-bound migrants who were trying to get to Dover during the chaotic strikes.


    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/eurostar-services-cancelled-as-protesters-breach-terminal-amid-chaotic-scenes-in-northern-france-10339740.html
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.

    How does that compare to the Ed Miliband election ?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Tyndall, Loving EU Is A Dirty Job

    Or perhaps:
    I Hate Myself For Loving EU
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    EU Only Live Twice.

    (For those thinking of a thread on a second referendum)
    A EU To A Kill?
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Pulpstar said:

    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.

    How does that compare to the Ed Miliband election ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2010

    Turnout of members was 127k. Not sure what that was as a percentage. Turnout of affiliated members was 211k.
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited June 2015
    watford30 said:

    jayfdee said:

    watford30 said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Immigrants, or striking protestors?

    Sky are reporting that the latter have invaded the Eurostar terminal.
    Notice board here suggests strikers on the line.
    Makes more sense than illegals. But less exciting for the usual suspects here.

    Mates on the gates, let their striking brothers through security. 'MyFerryLink' was owned by Eurotunnel until 10 days ago, so there are obvious 'sympathies' between the two sets of employees.
    Yes indeed. Actually if you look at the pictures you can understand where the confusion is coming from though. Sky reported the incident as migrants but either way a mess.

    Just wondering given your "usual suspect" comment. if you think it's right they should be there trying to enter illegally or even if it's wrong we should criticise the French for not stopping them breaking into lorries and attacking drivers?

    If that's the case better then you also count me in to the " usual suspect " group I guess
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    For a proper balanced thread

    With or Without EU
    EU Keep Me Hanging On
  • Richard_Tyndall
    Richard_Tyndall Posts: 33,463

    Mr. Tyndall, Loving EU Is A Dirty Job

    Or perhaps:
    I Hate Myself For Loving EU

    LOL. I am just looking through lists of songs and apparently Cee-Lo Green did one that would be at the extreme end of the selection ...

    F#ck EU.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290

    I Hate Myself For Loving EU

    The one-hit wonder Jack W with 'I See EU Baby (Shakin' That ARSE)'.

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Pulpstar said:

    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.

    How does that compare to the Ed Miliband election ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2010

    Turnout of members was 127k. Not sure what that was as a percentage. Turnout of affiliated members was 211k.
    The affiliate vote last time was worth 33.3%, and this time it'll be worth 1.4% assuming no differential turnout.

    Is that right ?
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    EU Only Live Twice.

    (For those thinking of a thread on a second referendum)
    A EU To A Kill?
    EU the one that I want ooo! Ooo! Oooooo!
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080
    Into the GrEUve
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    edited June 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.

    How does that compare to the Ed Miliband election ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2010

    Turnout of members was 127k. Not sure what that was as a percentage. Turnout of affiliated members was 211k.
    The affiliate vote last time was worth 33.3%, and this time it'll be worth 1.4% assuming no differential turnout.

    Is that right ?
    Correct. And the member vote has gone from 33.3% to 95.0%. Basically, unless something dramatic happens with the sign-ups, forget the unions.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see formal Labour:union ties ending within this Parliament; the SNP are driving that as much as anything.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290

    EU Keep Me Hanging On

    Will EU Still Love Me Tomorrow?
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    For a proper balanced thread

    With or Without EU
    EU Keep Me Hanging On
    EU spin me right round baby right round.....
  • jayfdee
    jayfdee Posts: 618
    Moses_ said:

    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
    Sorry to hear that. Find another route as all services are cancelled at the moment for today.

    That came from Eurostar and was reported via Sky news.

    Might not have much luck on the ferries either by the sounds of it.


    They are still checking cars in to the terminal but no news here. Calais port is closed so no ferries,we only just missed the last train and are first for when they resume ,not sure if my insurance covers me,may have to cancel the whole trip.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Sorry to hear that, Mr. Jayfdee.
  • Flightpathl
    Flightpathl Posts: 1,243
    DavidL said:

    Danny565 said:

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?

    Quite so. A success story that a Labour candidate can legitimately claim to be associated with. It has a genuine novelty factor.
    Remind me again, what did her bid say it would all cost?
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    Mr. Tyndall, Loving EU Is A Dirty Job

    Or perhaps:
    I Hate Myself For Loving EU

    LOL. I am just looking through lists of songs and apparently Cee-Lo Green did one that would be at the extreme end of the selection ...

    F#ck EU.
    One for the Greeks?

    EU once.....twice... Three times failed to payme
    but we love you......
  • Flightpathl
    Flightpathl Posts: 1,243
    HYUFD said:

    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?

    George Bush flew jet fighter planes.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Everything I do (I do it for EU) - Ken Clarke rushcliffe dub mix
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Royale, I have vague memories of that song being at number one for bloody ages. Sixteen weeks, was it?
  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Shy news

    Strikers now blocking the road to the port of Calais.

    Around 3000 migrants reported in Calais trying to get over to UK


    Ha! Brit lorry driver in Calais says it was worse this morning as he says no police around as Le Plod is in same Union as the strikers ? Is that correct?

  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited June 2015

    Mr. Royale, I have vague memories of that song being at number one for bloody ages. Sixteen weeks, was it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zggSgIT0yd0

    Relive the song that never left the bloody charts.

    Summer of '69 only got to 42 in 85 ! Way better than the above lol
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687

    Mr. Royale, I have vague memories of that song being at number one for bloody ages. Sixteen weeks, was it?

    Yup. I got bloody sick of it. A bit like the EU ;-)
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Royale, to be fair, Bryan Adams never tried to erode British sovereignty and billions of pounds.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    I think you might have just won the thread.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route

    Some sort of snow-plough attachment would seem to be in order.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156

    John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul

    Labour Party membership as of today: 246,469. Registered supporters: 9,115. Affiliated supporters (trade unionists etc): 3,788.

    #Tories4Corbyn keeping their powder dry until closer to the deadline for registration?

    Despite the nonsense, my vote will be worth 3 times as much as last time, which is nice.
  • SandyRentool
    SandyRentool Posts: 23,156
    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    Excellent!

    D'Hondt stand so close to me.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    Deploy Kay Burley.
  • logical_song
    logical_song Posts: 10,082

    HYUFD said:

    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?

    George Bush flew jet fighter planes.
    Sounds good, but it doesn't appear to be as simple as that.
    e.g. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/George_W._Bush's_military_service
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Insanely off-topic, but I've just across these absolutely stunning fire insurance maps from the late 19th century - every single building drawn with an indication of what it was used for, method of construction, height, windows, etc. Here's the 1886 sheet for part of the area north of Fleet Street:

    http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/england/london/itov/mapsu145ubu22u2uf034r.html
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867

    DavidL said:

    Danny565 said:

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?

    Quite so. A success story that a Labour candidate can legitimately claim to be associated with. It has a genuine novelty factor.
    Remind me again, what did her bid say it would all cost?

    DavidL said:

    Danny565 said:

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?

    Quite so. A success story that a Labour candidate can legitimately claim to be associated with. It has a genuine novelty factor.
    Remind me again, what did her bid say it would all cost?
    This is Labour. They don't do numbers.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    'I Want My STV'.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    For the American elections, we could have Ballot With Butterfly Wings.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    EC lover?
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2015
    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    This is what he was saying last year:

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/immigrants-shipped-to-dover-21399/

    "Calais Deputy Mayor Philippe Mignonet calls for UK to intervene as fights break out in camps"
  • Moses_
    Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
    Sorry to hear that. Find another route as all services are cancelled at the moment for today.

    That came from Eurostar and was reported via Sky news.

    Might not have much luck on the ferries either by the sounds of it.


    They are still checking cars in to the terminal but no news here. Calais port is closed so no ferries,we only just missed the last train and are first for when they resume ,not sure if my insurance covers me,may have to cancel the whole trip.
    Oh that's really bad really sorry to hear that and just what you don't need.

    If you are first train might be worth sitting it out though. Suffice to. Say the one you just missed probably never made it anyway and would have been turned back? Not that will make you feel any better

    Not sure what to suggest.... It will take today to sort out so dig in and wait I would have thought and make sure you stock up on drinks and sarnies at the terminal before the lorry drivers get there

    :-)

  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. JS, if he wants us to resume governance of Normandy, we should consider that proposal seriously.
  • MTimT
    MTimT Posts: 7,034

    HYUFD said:

    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?

    George Bush flew jet fighter planes.
    Indeed, he had a better academic record than Al Gore, whose intelligence no-one seems to impugn.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687

    Mr. Royale, to be fair, Bryan Adams never tried to erode British sovereignty and billions of pounds.

    I'm desperate to work in some Bon Jovi here.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Royale, EU Give Love A Bad Name?
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    AndyJS said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    This is what he was saying last year:

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/immigrants-shipped-to-dover-21399/

    "Calais Deputy Mayor Philippe Mignonet calls for UK to intervene as fights break out in camps"
    Hmm. That all boils down to "Waaaaa!! It's not fair!". Maybe not, ma petite grenouille, but doesn't make it our responsibility.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    edited June 2015

    Mr. JS, if he wants us to resume governance of Normandy, we should consider that proposal seriously.

    Point of Pedantry. Calais is not in Normandy.

    Though, her majesty is the ruler of Normandy, as one of her titles is the Duke of Normandy
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

  • MTimT
    MTimT Posts: 7,034
    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Good to see some of the Tories on here see that Sol Campbell would be a complete and utter disaster as a candidate for them.

    @HYUFD - being not very bright prevents Campbell from winning an election because:

    (a. He's not self-aware. Politicians need to be self-aware.
    (b. He cannot connect, nor is inclined to understand his electorate. He's a man who entered for politics purely for his own self-interest. There is no way in hell he should even be considering a role where he has to think about the desires of others.
    (c. There are better candidates than who'll make him look like a fool.
    (d. He's a divisive character.
    (e. He'll blame everything not going his way on racism.

    Zac Goldsmith, from what I understand is a fantastic constituency MP, and at the very least appears to care about making society a better place. I doubt Sol Campbell really cares about that, tbh.
  • CarlottaVance
    CarlottaVance Posts: 60,422

    Mr. JS, if he wants us to resume governance of Normandy, we should consider that proposal seriously.

    Though, her majesty is the ruler of Normandy, as one of her titles is the Duke of Normandy
    Unfortunately the only bits of Normandy left are the Bailiwicks of Jersey & Guernsey......
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
    France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Pulpstar said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
    France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.
    The problem with France is that it is full of French people.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.
    We could send over a few Megabuses to help (at very reasonable rates). Although travelling by Megabus is only slightly worse than spending 12 hours in the back of trailer with 40 other unwashed 'friends'.
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    MTimT said:

    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
    Gypsies Tramps and Thieves..?
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    MTimT said:

    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
    Greece lightning.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    lol
    Anorak said:

    MTimT said:

    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
    Greece lightning.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Anorak said:

    MTimT said:

    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
    Greece lightning.
    Katy Perry - Sparta me..
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    One for the wealthy lawyers on here:

    I'd Do Anything For Gove (But I Won't Do That)
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Apocalypse


    (a. He's not self-aware. Politicians need to be self-aware.
    (b. He cannot connect, nor is inclined to understand his electorate. He's a man who entered for politics purely for his own self-interest. There is no way in hell he should even be considering a role where he has to think about the desires of others.
    (c. There are better candidates than who'll make him look like a fool.
    (d. He's a divisive character.
    (e. He'll blame everything not going his way on racism.

    Surely most of those points also apply to Sadiq Khan.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621
    TGOHF said:

    Anorak said:

    MTimT said:

    antifrank said:

    If TSE is after a title for a new thread on AV, I offer D'Hondt You Want Me Baby.

    For news of how the negotiations are going with Greece, how about "I heard it on the grapevine"?
    Greece lightning.
    Katy Perry - Sparta me..
    The Rhodes to Hell.
  • watford30
    watford30 Posts: 3,474
    edited June 2015
    AndyJS said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    This is what he was saying last year:

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/immigrants-shipped-to-dover-21399/

    "Calais Deputy Mayor Philippe Mignonet calls for UK to intervene as fights break out in camps"
    The French are too weak to police the situation. Quelle surprise.

    Perhaps they'd be willing to cede control of the area to the British Army?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Rescue Me, shurely.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    john_zims said:

    @Apocalypse


    (a. He's not self-aware. Politicians need to be self-aware.
    (b. He cannot connect, nor is inclined to understand his electorate. He's a man who entered for politics purely for his own self-interest. There is no way in hell he should even be considering a role where he has to think about the desires of others.
    (c. There are better candidates than who'll make him look like a fool.
    (d. He's a divisive character.
    (e. He'll blame everything not going his way on racism.

    Surely most of those points also apply to Sadiq Khan.

    Sadiq Khan is applying for the Labour candidacy though.
  • The_Apocalypse
    The_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    john_zims said:

    @Apocalypse


    (a. He's not self-aware. Politicians need to be self-aware.
    (b. He cannot connect, nor is inclined to understand his electorate. He's a man who entered for politics purely for his own self-interest. There is no way in hell he should even be considering a role where he has to think about the desires of others.
    (c. There are better candidates than who'll make him look like a fool.
    (d. He's a divisive character.
    (e. He'll blame everything not going his way on racism.

    Surely most of those points also apply to Sadiq Khan.

    I don't know too much about Khan, so I'll not argue against that point. The two candidates I'd like to see become Mayor or London, are either Jowell or Goldsmith.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Mr. Eagles, must confess, such vulgarly modern areas aren't my strong point.

    But my main point still stands. If the French are incapable of self-governance and wish for us to resume our role of leadership in Calais, Normandy, Gascony and many other parts of France, we should be willing to assist our close friends.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Pulpstar said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
    France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.
    I'd take our green and pleasant land any day, personally. Living in France is very frustrating.
  • Anorak
    Anorak Posts: 6,621

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

    It is getting ridiculous. It's a ticking time bomb for Cameron and will only get worse as further migrants work their way up from Italy.
  • SimonStClare
    SimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Anorak said:

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
    The first cut is the deepest. :lol:
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited June 2015

    Pulpstar said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
    France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.
    I'd take our green and pleasant land any day, personally. Living in France is very frustrating.
    Nice for a holiday though :D

    Obviously not Calais...
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    Anorak said:

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
    The first haircut is the deepest. :lol:
    Fixed that for you.
  • jayfdee
    jayfdee Posts: 618
    Moses_ said:

    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
    Sorry to hear that. Find another route as all services are cancelled at the moment for today.

    That came from Eurostar and was reported via Sky news.

    Might not have much luck on the ferries either by the sounds of it.


    They are still checking cars in to the terminal but no news here. Calais port is closed so no ferries,we only just missed the last train and are first for when they resume ,not sure if my insurance covers me,may have to cancel the whole trip.
    Oh that's really bad really sorry to hear that and just what you don't need.

    If you are first train might be worth sitting it out though. Suffice to. Say the one you just missed probably never made it anyway and would have been turned back? Not that will make you feel any better

    Not sure what to suggest.... It will take today to sort out so dig in and wait I would have thought and make sure you stock up on drinks and sarnies at the terminal before the lorry drivers get there

    :-)

    I think they are stacking the HGVs on the M20,no news here,which is very bad. I suspect they will resume early evening,as the strike is due to end then,also thestrkers will need to home for some wine.
    London Eurostar station will be getting busy as well.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687

    Mr. Royale, EU Give Love A Bad Name?

    That was where I was heading. But I got greedy and wanted to get 'shot through the heart' in there too.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080
    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    jayfdee said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
    Sorry to hear that. Find another route as all services are cancelled at the moment for today.

    That came from Eurostar and was reported via Sky news.

    Might not have much luck on the ferries either by the sounds of it.


    They are still checking cars in to the terminal but no news here. Calais port is closed so no ferries,we only just missed the last train and are first for when they resume ,not sure if my insurance covers me,may have to cancel the whole trip.
    Sorry to hear that, could easily have been us on our trip to Amsterdam at Easter.
  • john_zims
    john_zims Posts: 3,399
    edited June 2015
    @Pulpstar

    'France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.'

    Agree, much better infrastructure, health care, weather,far less crowded & people who know how to drink!
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Love and Farage?
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    edited June 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Anorak said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    I'm trying to think of a possible way that statement could be correct. I really can't.

    They are foreign citizens on foreign soil, FFS.
    Take it as a compliment. He's saying it's our fault our country isn't as unattractive as France.
    France is lovely though ! I mean it has the French, but the weather is far better there, and the population density is alot lower (So long as you are outside central Paris, and maybe Marseille). Full of chateaux and vineyards and decent roads.
    I'd take our green and pleasant land any day, personally. Living in France is very frustrating.
    Nice for a holiday though :D

    Obviously not Calais...
    Yes, and you are right on the population density. The weather is highly variable here too, but, then again, be careful what you wish for: we might not be as green nor as pleasant without it.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,290
    Anorak said:

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
    You can go Euro own way.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

    It is getting ridiculous. It's a ticking time bomb for Cameron and will only get worse as further migrants work their way up from Italy.
    The only way is to make it as unpleasant as possible for those that make it across -= internment in the north of Scotland - followed by swift return to the country of origin with finger prints and dna taken.

    Pay Ryanair to run a return service - outsource at £50 a head.
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Good piece in the Spectator about trying to stop men see a certain film:
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9560792/censoring-jews/
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

    It is getting ridiculous. It's a ticking time bomb for Cameron and will only get worse as further migrants work their way up from Italy.
    The only way is to make it as unpleasant as possible for those that make it across -= internment in the north of Scotland - followed by swift return to the country of origin with finger prints and dna taken.

    Pay Ryanair to run a return service - outsource at £50 a head.
    For 120,000 crowns we could reverse the Treaty of Troyes...
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

    It is getting ridiculous. It's a ticking time bomb for Cameron and will only get worse as further migrants work their way up from Italy.
    The only way is to make it as unpleasant as possible for those that make it across -= internment in the north of Scotland - followed by swift return to the country of origin with finger prints and dna taken.

    Pay Ryanair to run a return service - outsource at £50 a head.
    The only credible way IMHO is to process illegal migrants offshore. Once they make it to EU soil, given the skewed way rights are interpreted, it's game over for effective migration controls IRL.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687

    Anorak said:

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
    You can go Euro own way.
    Outstanding.
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    AndyJS said:

    Deputy mayor of Calais: situation in Calais is responsibility of the UK.

    Would they like British troops to take over Calais again?

    We should suggest that the perfect remedy is that they are all bussed down to the Spanish border and released.

    It is getting ridiculous. It's a ticking time bomb for Cameron and will only get worse as further migrants work their way up from Italy.
    The only way is to make it as unpleasant as possible for those that make it across -= internment in the north of Scotland - followed by swift return to the country of origin with finger prints and dna taken.

    Pay Ryanair to run a return service - outsource at £50 a head.
    The only credible way IMHO is to process illegal migrants offshore. Once they make it to EU soil, given the skewed way rights are interpreted, it's game over for effective migration controls IRL.
    Bit late at Calais then isn't it ?
  • TGOHF
    TGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Marvellous boost to the tourist industry...

    Crazy - they need a default.

  • AlastairMeeks
    AlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Anorak said:

    Rescue Me, shurely.

    Or post-deal: I will survive.
    Post-hummus notoriety.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited June 2015
    Just up Management fees to a foreign parent. I guess the restaurants can't go anywhere... wonder how many are *cash only* though...
  • Disraeli
    Disraeli Posts: 1,106

    The two candidates I'd like to see become Mayor or London, are either Jowell or Goldsmith.

    Tessa all the way. They are all much-of-a-muchness on most things, but she's the only one out of the three main contenders who agrees that Heathrow needs a third runway.