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SystemSystem Posts: 12,218
edited June 2015 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Zac becomes the favourite to be the next London Mayor

The other important news is that Goldsmith has persuaded, another contender, Nick de Bois, to be his campaign manager, which is a sign that people see his nomination as inevitable.

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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    edited June 2015
    Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,137
    Well, that's certainly spiced up the mayoral race. Zac should prove an interesting challenger. Will he stand down before the election?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    rottenborough said:

    Well, that's certainly spiced up the mayoral race. Zac should prove an interesting challenger. Will he stand down before the election?

    No after he's been elected, assuming he was elected Mayor.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    edited June 2015
    Apologies for the premature publication of the Stuck in the Middle with EU thread.

    I shall be suitably punished for the worst pun in PB history premature publication.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    So 79% of Zac's constituency don't want him to be their MP anymore?

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    And Zac moves in to 1-6.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Apologies for the premature publication of the Stuck in the Middle with EU thread.

    I shall be suitably punished for the worst pun in PB history premature publication.

    Electoral Dysfunction?

    :lol:
  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243
    MarkHopkins said:


    So 79% of Zac's constituency don't want him to be their MP anymore?

    No, they want him as their Mayor.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    edited June 2015
    Jowell should actually be favourite, Zac and Khan joint second favourites.

    Yougov in their Evening Standard Poll last week had Jowell leading Zac 35% - 26%, but Khan level with Zac on 29% each. Yougov also had Jowell ahead with Labour voters for the Labour nomination, albeit with a narrower lead with Labour voters than Zac had with Tory voters on Sol Campbell, his closest rival for the Tory nomination
    https://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/politics/
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    1) Even as a strong candidate, I'd have thought he might fall back a bit once the sheen has worn off.

    2) It was said on the previous thread this makes Jowell the necessary Labour choice as the only one who could stop the Tories - but surely Labour are sufficiently strong in the capital more than one candidate could stop a good Tory candidate, even if victory is by no mean certain?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Incidentally you can still get 1.28 (just under 2/7) on Khan OR Jowell to win the Labour nomination. Not as good value as it was, but still worth considering.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    I feel Zac should now gold-plate his genitals also, to show that he is down with the kids. And, indeed, relevant to the yoof.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Apologies for the premature publication of the Stuck in the Middle with EU thread.

    I shall be suitably punished for the worst pun in PB history premature publication.

    Not at all, you gave us a fascinating insight into the editorial process. Start with a pun, then build an article around it.
  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243
    OT
    positive economic analysis
    http://www.economicsuk.com/blog/002103.html#more
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    Sol Campbell is black, AIUI. What is his problem exactly? Doesn't he realise he's supposed to be a hapless drone Labour supporter, voting listlessly for more benefits?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,774
    Whereas normally it's "Start with a punt, then build an article around it."
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    I'm having a look through Zac's twitter feed, trying to find some areas of agreement with the Gov't...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    edited June 2015
    Tissue_Price said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Apologies for the premature publication of the Stuck in the Middle with EU thread.

    I shall be suitably punished for the worst pun in PB history premature publication.

    Not at all, you gave us a fascinating insight into the editorial process. Start with a pun, then build an article around it.
    Hah, usually it is spend an hour writing the piece, then spend 3 hours trying to segue in subtle puns/musical references.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    "He tasks me! He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him round the moons of Newbury, round the Angus Maelstrom, and round Pendle's flames before I give him up! Prepare to alter course."
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Class War seem to have declared war on ... Russell Brand.
  • BaskervilleBaskerville Posts: 391
    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    Can someone remind me when Sadiq Khan asked the voters of Tooting whether he should run?

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Pulpstar said:

    Class War seem to have declared war on ... Russell Brand.

    Heart of stone, etc, etc. Flounce inbound?
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited June 2015
    Firstly he had to deal with some pretty aggressive hecklers during the anti-austerity marches in London who told him to ‘f*** off back to Miliband’.

    Now he has asked people to #LoveThePolice, and most folks don’t seem to happy about it.

    In a video posted to his Facebook page Brand claims he has spoken with many disillusioned police officers in the UK, and has suggested we use ‘situationism’ – in that by protesting for the rights of police officers they will face an internal moral confrontation as to whether to help or hinder the demonstrators.

    A nice idea, but… well… let’s see what Twitter has to say about it.

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/23/russell-brand-wants-us-to-lovethepolice-twitter-disagrees-5259359/#ixzz3dtEJ6IZn
    Pulpstar said:

    Class War seem to have declared war on ... Russell Brand.

  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    "He tasks me! He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him round the moons of Newbury, round the Angus Maelstrom, and round Pendle's flames before I give him up! Prepare to alter course."
    Save your strength, Captain Sunil. These people had sworn to live and die at my command two hundred years before you were born! :lol:
  • BaskervilleBaskerville Posts: 391
    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Baskerville said:

    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    Can someone remind me when Sadiq Khan asked the voters of Tooting whether he should run?

    To be fair he probably doesn't have tens of thousands of pounds spare in the same way Zac does.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Yet the sub editors are often incapable of writing a headline that actually fits the article properly.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Tissue_Price said:

    Baskerville said:

    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    Can someone remind me when Sadiq Khan asked the voters of Tooting whether he should run?

    To be fair he probably doesn't have tens of thousands of pounds spare in the same way Zac does.
    Sol Campbell should ask Spurs season ticket holders.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    SimonStClare said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    SimonStClare said:

    Goldsmith’s Richmond electorate back his mayoral bid.

    Presumably Sadiq Khan’s response to the good news was ‘the voters are bastards’ ? :lol:

    "He tasks me! He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him round the moons of Newbury, round the Angus Maelstrom, and round Pendle's flames before I give him up! Prepare to alter course."
    Save your strength, Captain Sunil. These people had sworn to live and die at my command two hundred years before you were born! :lol:
    We tried it once your way, Sadiq, are you game for a rematch? Sadiq... I'm laughing at the superior intellect!
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited June 2015
    Plato said:

    Firstly he had to deal with some pretty aggressive hecklers during the anti-austerity marches in London who told him to ‘f*** off back to Miliband’.

    Now he has asked people to #LoveThePolice, and most folks don’t seem to happy about it.

    In a video posted to his Facebook page Brand claims he has spoken with many disillusioned police officers in the UK, and has suggested we use ‘situationism’ – in that by protesting for the rights of police officers they will face an internal moral confrontation as to whether to help or hinder the demonstrators.

    A nice idea, but… well… let’s see what Twitter has to say about it.

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/23/russell-brand-wants-us-to-lovethepolice-twitter-disagrees-5259359/#ixzz3dtEJ6IZn
    Pulpstar said:

    Class War seem to have declared war on ... Russell Brand.



    In a certain Premier Inn there are books left/donated by guests that P Inn sell in aid of Great Ormond St Hospital. As I sad idly by waiting for a friend, I notice a book in the bookcase which just said Russell Brand. I picked it up, more wondering why anyone would read a book by such a nasty piece of work, and the book fell open to a page where he was describing how he took a girl to a hotel room and how uspet he was because she just took her clothes off out of sight and he missed the excitement of the removal of bra and panties..

    What a sad man if only because he feels the need to write about it and let the public know of his fantasies..

  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited June 2015
    Mary Scanlon MSP (Con) to retire next year. Born in 1947, she has been at Holyrood since 1999 (with a gap between Moray by-election in 2006 and 2007 election)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    @Squareroot Jeez - TMI !
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Labour Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) to stand down too. Born in 1950, he has been there since 1999
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Retirement count in Holyrood

    9 SNP
    4 Con (I suppose we can add Goldie)
    2 Lab
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Mr. Antifrank, they're a bugger for stories (whether long or short) as well.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited June 2015
    Dan Hannan has just uploaded an excellent speech he recently gave in Holland titled "EU or democracy" which is well worth a look, especially by those sceptically that he would be a good leader for the OUT campaign. It is particularly good for its discussion of a Free Trade Area (which the EU isn't) and a Customs Union (which it is), as part of his exposition of 6 myths about the EU.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PalZQapEnbk
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    edited June 2015
    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,238
    Two London-centric threads in a row.

    We aren't all members of the latte-sipping metropolitan elite.

    Where's the thread on pigeon racing?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    SandyRentool said:

    Two London-centric threads in a row.

    We aren't all members of the latte-sipping metropolitan elite.

    Where's the thread on pigeon racing?

    Don't worry we've got a Scotland thread this afternoon.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    The challenge facing the BNP :D ?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,238
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Two London-centric threads in a row.

    We aren't all members of the latte-sipping metropolitan elite.

    Where's the thread on pigeon racing?

    Don't worry we've got a Scotland thread this afternoon.
    We aren't all members of the Irn-Bru sipping elite either!
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Did anybody read the Sol Campbell interview in the S.Times? Incredibly hard to take him seriously, he doesn't come across as very bright at all.
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11691955/European-Union-exit-could-make-British-households-933-richer.html

    That's a very precise number.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11690678/Labours-witch-hunt-against-Tory-Liz-Kendall-is-a-fatal-error.html

    Keiran Pedley writes:

    " Amidst the backdrop of anti-austerity protests over the weekend, the Labour Party leadership campaign has kicked off in earnest. There are already signs that it might not be a pleasant one.

    Having got the debate they wanted, with the inclusion of Jeremy Corbyn on the ballot, some Labour supporters seem determined to use this debate to brand one candidate – Liz Kendall – a Tory. Such rhetoric can only hurt Labour as it starts on the rocky road back to power.

    Lots of bitchy comments about Liz Kendall from rivals in this Telegraph piece. Rather suggests they're worried: http://t.co/DEar3AY2UL
    — David Skelton (@DJSkelton) June 15, 2015

    These accusations say much about the state of the Labour Party in 2015. There are signs that many in the party simply cannot accept the reality of May’s defeat. Despite the "twitterstorms’ and "Milifandoms", Labour achieved some 2 million fewer votes than the Conservatives whilst Ukip achieved nearly 4 million of its own."
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Two London-centric threads in a row.

    We aren't all members of the latte-sipping metropolitan elite.

    Where's the thread on pigeon racing?

    Don't worry we've got a Scotland thread this afternoon.
    We aren't all members of the Irn-Bru sipping elite either!
    It's a Guest Thread

    It's one we can all participate in.

    Is AV the only way to keep Scotland in the Union?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,713
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    blackburn63 said:

    Did anybody read the Sol Campbell interview in the S.Times? Incredibly hard to take him seriously, he doesn't come across as very bright at all.

    It's not as bad as his TV interviews.

    Nice to have him as a supporter. But a serious mayoral contender, he is not.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,713
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    edited June 2015
    TSE No as the SNP have to win a referendum even if they win every Scottish seat at Westminster and at Holyrood, they have already lost one referendum. You are right though that AV would help unionist parties win more seats
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    I like that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,713
    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    I got EU, babe?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,303
    Indigo said:

    Dan Hannan has just uploaded an excellent speech he recently gave in Holland titled "EU or democracy" which is well worth a look, especially by those sceptically that he would be a good leader for the OUT campaign.

    I'm on the other side but am very sceptical about his credentials to lead the OUT campaign. He combines some of the worst aspects of William Hague and Jim Murphy.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    With all these competing threads I just can't get EU out of my head.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    edited June 2015
    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,303
    Casino_Royale said:

    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    I got EU, babe?
    I got EU under my skin?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Two London-centric threads in a row.

    We aren't all members of the latte-sipping metropolitan elite.

    Where's the thread on pigeon racing?

    Don't worry we've got a Scotland thread this afternoon.
    We aren't all members of the Irn-Bru sipping elite either!
    It's a Guest Thread

    It's one we can all participate in.

    Is AV the only way to keep Scotland in the Union?
    "These AV threads are wrong at a time when negotiations are still going on. But PBers and the public have been let down by both sides because TSE has acted in a reckless and provocative manner."

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    Tissue_Price said:

    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    With all these competing threads I just can't get EU out of my head.
    That's tomorrow's thread!
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited June 2015
    The thing about Sadiq is, I like what I've read about his politics, but whenever I've seen him on TV I've been pretty unimpressed. There's just something about him which seems a bit...unauthoritative and quiet.

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    edited June 2015
    Danny565 said:

    The thing about Sadiq is, I like what I've read about his politics, but whenever I've seen him on TV I've been pretty unimpressed. There's just something about him which seems a bit...unauthoritative and quiet.

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?

    Mo Farah? (sorry!)
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    HYUFD said:

    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?

    In that case perhaps we can have Robbie Fowler as PM.



  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    Loving EU's A Dirty Job (But Somebody's Got To Do It)
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sky news breaking !!!

    Major disturbance outside French end of channel Tunnel. Trains stopped. Train heading to Calais now stopped and is retuning back to London without crossing

    Sky news reports many lorries being attacked and broken into as they go by slowlytoward the port.

    Initial reports Ferry services suspended ???

    "operation stack" now implemented on the M2 motorway now in operation.

    As a result of strike action there are many slow moving lorries and people have been trying to board all day. Sky Reports indicate thousands (not hundreds) but thousands are now attempting to board lorries and or break through.
    Drivers including holiday makers tool by FO keep your car doors locked and windows closed when passing through the area.



    I think the French will let them or will be just overwhelmed eventually.

    It has to be asked again and again why do they live for months in France like they do just to get here. We all know the answer of course so that is the only way to stop this and to hell with the European courts, Schengen and the EU.

    A large number of people are heading over the channel into France the other way for holidays so it's not that bad in France they they need to be risking life and limb to get over here. They need to enforce their claim in France and if failed the French have to deal with them . Slim chance they will probably just give them a passport and wave them on.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "UK political parties 'paid for fake supporters in run-up to general election'"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-uk-political-parties-used-rentacrowd-during-the-general-election-10339061.html
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    blackburn63 Why not? He probably would do a better job than some of the PMs we have had.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    blackburn63 said:

    HYUFD said:

    blackburn63 Since when did not being very bright prevent someone winning an election, George W Bush being a case in point, Campbell has had a successful career as a footballer and represented his country and built a successful property business after as well as raising money for charity and the arts, how much have Khan, Zac and Jowell done in the real world?

    In that case perhaps we can have Robbie Fowler as PM.
    Michael Owen is surely a shoo in if we're going on this basis ?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking !!!

    It has to be asked again and again why do they live for months in France like they do just to get here. We all know the answer of course so that is the only way to stop this and to hell with the European courts, Schengen and the EU.

    A large number of people are heading over the channel into France the other way for holidays so it's not that bad in France they they need to be risking life and limb to get over here. They need to enforce their claim in France and if failed the French have to deal with them . Slim chance they will probably just give them a passport and wave them on.

    Will backfire eventually on Eurotunnel and the French tourist industry - holiday makers will head for the airport rather than run the gauntlet of crazed rioting immigrants.

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,032
    Danny565 said:

    Even though I don't buy this bs about centrists being what Labour needs in general, my instinct would be that Tessa is the best candidate for this simply because she'll remind people of the Olympics - and who wouldn't want to be reminded of the Olympics?

    Quite so. A success story that a Labour candidate can legitimately claim to be associated with. It has a genuine novelty factor.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Shadsy winning at Twitter again:


    Lembit Öpik ‏@lembitopik

    I'm thinking of standing for mayor of London. Nobody else sounds as credible as me. Views?


    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics

    @lembitopik 500/1
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Heavens above, we're now judging a potential politician on the money he's made and his footballing ability as mr pulpstar points out.

    I saw Campbell play for Spurs when he was a teenager, one of my favourite all time players, wen he left for that other lot I was distraught. Listening to him try to talk seriously about politics is cringeworthy.
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    Further evidence that the mainstream parties are in decline - it'd be interesting to know which events they had to resort to hiring a crowd !!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-uk-political-parties-used-rentacrowd-during-the-general-election-10339061.html
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    williamglenn said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    I got EU, babe?
    I got EU under my skin?
    I Feel EU
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    Of course, if we'd undertaken the Morris Dancer Party's moderate and sensible plan to invade France, Calais wouldn't be a problem anymore.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,690
    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/613351595472998400
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    Bond_James_Bond said:

    Loving EU's A Dirty Job (But Somebody's Got To Do It)

    Sign EUr Name Across My Heart
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2015
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    The French police really are idiotic. They don't do their job properly and then blame everyone else.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    HYFUD I believe Bush was a trained fighter Pilot.. its possible that you have to be a little bright to be able and allowed to do that..
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,680
    rottenborough said:

    Well, that's certainly spiced up the mayoral race. Zac should prove an interesting challenger. Will he stand down before the election?

    I'm sure he won't before the election. That would be unreasonable. He might end up with neither position.

    My wife and I both voted "Yes" in his ballot so we are part of the 79% in favour of him standing.

    But in the comments section we both said that if he becomes Mayor we expect him to stand down as an MP. He shouldn't try to do both jobs.

    As far as I can see, on his website and in his announcement, he has made no comment on this.

    Of course, if the Government approves Heathrow, Zac has promised to stand down anyway as a Conservative MP. I assumed he would stand again in the subsequent by-election as an independent. But running for Mayor would complicate this. It will depend on the timing of the Heathrow announcement.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    edited June 2015
    richardDodd said:

    HYFUD I believe Bush was a trained fighter Pilot.. its possible that you have to be a little bright to be able and allowed to do that..

    Air National Guard (what we would refer to as a "Reserve" squadron?)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Just read that asylum seekers get accom here whilst their claim is being processed. In France they have to wait 4 months or so... I think the French have that the right way round.
  • blackburn63blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    AndyJS said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    The French police really are idiotic. They don't do their job properly and then blame everyone else.
    Why idiotic? Once the immigrants have left Calais its no longer a problem for the French police. I'd say they're doing what's best for the French.

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    edited June 2015
    sunil You still have to have your wits about you..and go through the high tech training programme..
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,987
    edited June 2015
    blackburn63 Reagan and Schwarzanneger were mocked as not too bright Hollywood actors as well as being a bodybuilder in Arnold's case, their forays into politics did not turn out too badly. Former wrestler Jesse Ventura was elected Governor of Minnesota. Seb Coe was an MP and former Olympic athlete and would also have been a good candidate for Mayor. Former cricketer Imran Khan has his own party in Pakistan. AC Milan's George Weah ran for Parliament in Liberia. Australia has elected sports and tennis stars. Why shouldn't we have some people running for office who have done something other than PPE/Spad/Minister?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/613351595472998400

    Priceless! I used to work with Lembit - I think 500/1 a bit generous.....
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    Mr. Pulpstar, quite.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    Pulpstar said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Just read that asylum seekers get accom here whilst their claim is being processed. In France they have to wait 4 months or so... I think the French have that the right way round.
    Damn. I only went through the Eurotunnel a couple of months ago on the way to/from Amsterdam via Brussels.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    blackburn63 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    The French police really are idiotic. They don't do their job properly and then blame everyone else.
    Why idiotic? Once the immigrants have left Calais its no longer a problem for the French police. I'd say they're doing what's best for the French.

    Indeed. - I do not doubt the French police are just following orders from Palais de l'Élysée.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Sky news breaking


    Eurostar cancel all services today
  • watford30watford30 Posts: 3,474
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Immigrants, or striking protestors?

    Sky are reporting that the latter have invaded the Eurostar terminal.
  • jayfdeejayfdee Posts: 618
    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking....

    Immigrants in channel tunnel hence Eurostar cancel all servies for today

    Eurostar say cancel journey next two days if not important or find another route.

    Latest reports also indicate cross channel Ferries service is suspended in Calais


    bad news I am stuck waiting to board. No info here have to rely on pb for news.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Barnesian said:

    rottenborough said:

    Well, that's certainly spiced up the mayoral race. Zac should prove an interesting challenger. Will he stand down before the election?

    I'm sure he won't before the election. That would be unreasonable. He might end up with neither position.

    My wife and I both voted "Yes" in his ballot so we are part of the 79% in favour of him standing.

    But in the comments section we both said that if he becomes Mayor we expect him to stand down as an MP. He shouldn't try to do both jobs.

    As far as I can see, on his website and in his announcement, he has made no comment on this.

    Of course, if the Government approves Heathrow, Zac has promised to stand down anyway as a Conservative MP. I assumed he would stand again in the subsequent by-election as an independent. But running for Mayor would complicate this. It will depend on the timing of the Heathrow announcement.
    I had thought his letter to constituents had implied he would stand down as an MP if he won? I suppose promising to continue to serve as an MP 'during the campaign' is a bit ambiguous as to whether he would stop serving them as such after it was successful.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,713
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    antifrank said:

    Baskerville said:

    antifrank said:

    Finding titles is the worst bit of writing an article.

    That's why publications employ sub editors... the "Talent" can't think up headlines as well as write articles, poor dears. Oh, and they generally can't spell either!
    Fortunately I've got a good title for the next post I'm working on.
    So long as it isn't Europe: The Final Countdown for the UK's membership of the EU?

    I'm happy
    Can we have an Outer thread?

    The EU: It Means Nothing To Me.
    Of course
    Presumably to be paired with a Europhile thread: EU to me are everything.
    EU ain't seen nothing yet.
    Do EU Really Want To Hurt Me?
    EU Only Live Twice.

    (For those thinking of a thread on a second referendum)
  • jayfdeejayfdee Posts: 618
    watford30 said:

    Moses_ said:

    Sky news breaking

    Latest just reported
    Euro tunnel now suspended

    Illegal immigrants have now gained access to terminal and have breached security

    Immigrants, or striking protestors?

    Sky are reporting that the latter have invaded the Eurostar terminal.
    Notice board here suggests strikers on the line.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Fruit and veg apparently do better when stored in 99% nitrogen - idea for fruit and veg trailers perhaps...
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