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Tonight we saw the last of Lord Ashcroft constituency polls which have added enormously to this election. All told his polling has covered nearly 250k separate phone interviews which is just colossal.

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  • surbiton
    surbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited May 2015
    "Ed is Crap" - why do we not see this now ?
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    Two ComRes polls in three days?
  • OblitusSumMe
    OblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    I can almost hear the angry tones of Kinnock: ".. you end in the grotesque spectacle of a Labour leader in Scotland, a Labour leader in Scotland reliant on the tactical votes of Tories to be elected to Parliament..."
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    surbiton said:

    "Ed is Crap" - why do we not see this now ?

    Are you kidding me? EICIPM?? :D
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    :smiley:

    I can almost hear the angry tones of Kinnock: ".. you end in the grotesque spectacle of a Labour leader in Scotland, a Labour leader in Scotland reliant on the tactical votes of Tories to be elected to Parliament..."

  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    I hope Ed as PM proves up to the task that awaits him, but I'm not sure anyone could handle it very well.
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    The full video of Balls in Kilburn today

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJiuZRocTqo

    Seant should have joined the party
  • If Cameron's not going to cut tax credits or child benefit then why doesn't he legislate to confirm he won't? The reason is, because the Tories WILL cut tax credits and child benefit...the party of non doms and fox hunters are going to fleece the working poor.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132

    The full video of Balls in Kilburn today

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJiuZRocTqo

    Seant should have joined the party

    This is the ritual humiliation that politicians are expected to undergo.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Andrea Parma ‏@AndreaParma82 3m3 minutes ago
    Longer video of EdB doing some line dancing on the campain trail in Kilburn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJiuZRocTqo
  • If Cameron's not going to cut tax credits or child benefit then why doesn't he legislate to confirm he won't? The reason is, because the Tories WILL cut tax credits and child benefit...the party of non doms and fox hunters are going to fleece the working poor.

    I'm neither working nor particularly poor but I get both.
  • AndreaParma_82
    AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    @seant

    if you were searchin for Labour in Holborn today...they were in Regents Park this morning. In the afternoon Starmer was at the Mosque

    Balls and Boris Johnson were in Hampstead and Kilburn today. Balls dacing with old oldies while a jogger shouted "bulla bulla" at Boris while walking on the street
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Just to say again. Golders Green is a solid Labour gain.
  • Ishmael_X
    Ishmael_X Posts: 3,664
    surbiton said:

    "Ed is Crap" - why do we not see this now ?

    Did you miss QT last night? Ed is crap all right.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608

    If Cameron's not going to cut tax credits or child benefit then why doesn't he legislate to confirm he won't? The reason is, because the Tories WILL cut tax credits and child benefit...the party of non doms and fox hunters are going to fleece the working poor.

    I'm neither working nor particularly poor but I get both.
    You must be a non-dom fox hunter then.
  • RobD said:


    You must be a non-dom fox hunter then.

    That's how I found my wife.

  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    IOS said:

    Just to say again. Golders Green is a solid Labour gain.

    You saying it doesn't make it so.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    IOS said:

    Just to say again. Golders Green is a solid Labour gain.

    Why?

  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    RodCrosby said:
    Will make for a fun election night.
  • RobD said:


    You must be a non-dom fox hunter then.

    That's how I found my wife.

    Was she hiding in a badger sett, then?
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Just to say again. Golders Green is a solid Labour gain.

    Why?

    The ground game ;-)

  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Why not Sean?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608

    RobD said:


    You must be a non-dom fox hunter then.

    That's how I found my wife.

    Was she hiding in a badger sett, then?
    non-dom badger, obviously.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    You are the one saying it'll be a gain. Hardly for Sean to justify why you are so confident.
  • Theuniondivvie
    Theuniondivvie Posts: 44,327
    I'm noticing a grudging respect from some quarters of the right wing press.

    James Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 6 mins6 minutes ago
    Alarming that @NicolaSturgeon grasps implications of Fixed Term Parliaments Act (aka Dave's worst mistake) better than Westminster leaders
  • Luckyguy1983
    Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,089
    This is a really silly question so apologies in advance, but what happens to the 'don't knows' in the polls? Why are they not included in the overall totals?
  • Chameleon
    Chameleon Posts: 4,265

    If Cameron's not going to cut tax credits or child benefit then **why doesn't he legislate to confirm he won't**? The reason is, because the Tories WILL cut tax credits and child benefit...the party of non doms and fox hunters are going to fleece the working poor.

    D'oh.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    RodCrosby said:
    You have to wonder how they'll calculate the LD figure from a handful of LD seats. Perhaps they could incorporate the ashcroft polls or something?
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    London Labour Sean. As is Hornsey and Wood Green a Labour gain.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113

    I'm noticing a grudging respect from some quarters of the right wing press.

    James Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 6 mins6 minutes ago
    Alarming that @NicolaSturgeon grasps implications of Fixed Term Parliaments Act (aka Dave's worst mistake) better than Westminster leaders

    Respecting the SNP has never been a problem. It was just a question of how much that respect turned to fear.

  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    John_N said:

    If LAB are doing a 'slow build' and then a 'wham wham wham in the last week' in Scotland, it's risky in the sense of motivating their own activists, but it might be clever in the circumstances - and in some constituencies this is what the LABby NO-ers did for the indyref. SNP seat numbers may be a sell.

    You really do not understand Scotland.

    Labour are finished in Scotland. Finished.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    IOS said:

    London Labour Sean. As is Hornsey and Wood Green a Labour gain.

    So any seat in London that isn't Labour is a Labour gain?

    Ashcroft had it almost neck and neck. So I don't think you can say nailed on.
  • Neil
    Neil Posts: 7,983
    IOS said:

    London Labour Sean. As is Hornsey and Wood Green a Labour gain.

    Tell us again how Simon Hughes is so certain to lose badly that he wont even run.
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Sean

    Why can't he do deals with the Tories. They don't even have to vote for it. They can just abstain and Labour have a massive majority.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    IOS said:

    London Labour Sean. As is Hornsey and Wood Green a Labour gain.

    So how is Barnet council still Conservative controlled ?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Dair said:

    John_N said:

    If LAB are doing a 'slow build' and then a 'wham wham wham in the last week' in Scotland, it's risky in the sense of motivating their own activists, but it might be clever in the circumstances - and in some constituencies this is what the LABby NO-ers did for the indyref. SNP seat numbers may be a sell.

    You really do not understand Scotland.

    Labour are finished in Scotland. Finished.
    The premise is that Labour's current position is all going to plan? titters.. gotta feel sorry for them though, ultimate decimation.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    RodCrosby said:
    "“Prepare for disappointment,” said Curtice. “It’s almost guaranteed.”"

    Don't oversell it, John.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    There are only 11,000 votes in the way of David Cameron gaining the overall majority that evaded him in 2010. Here's how he does it
    telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11577997/The-11000-votes-and-23-seats-needed-to-give-the-Tories-a-majority.html
  • Monksfield
    Monksfield Posts: 2,905
    Plato said:

    There are only 11,000 votes in the way of David Cameron gaining the overall majority that evaded him in 2010. Here's how he does it
    telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11577997/The-11000-votes-and-23-seats-needed-to-give-the-Tories-a-majority.html

    LoL
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Neil

    If Simon does lose - then I win the war.
  • vulpus_rex
    vulpus_rex Posts: 5
    Office poll of The 4 under thirties this evening:

    I might vote for cleggy again
    I'm not voting, they are all shit
    I'm not telling but it's not labour
    I like David Cameron, I'm voting for him.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693

    Office poll of The 4 under thirties this evening:

    I might vote for cleggy again
    I'm not voting, they are all shit
    I'm not telling but it's not labour
    I like David Cameron, I'm voting for him.

    Marginal constituency?
  • Dair
    Dair Posts: 6,108
    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    John_N said:

    If LAB are doing a 'slow build' and then a 'wham wham wham in the last week' in Scotland, it's risky in the sense of motivating their own activists, but it might be clever in the circumstances - and in some constituencies this is what the LABby NO-ers did for the indyref. SNP seat numbers may be a sell.

    You really do not understand Scotland.

    Labour are finished in Scotland. Finished.
    The premise is that Labour's current position is all going to plan? titters.. gotta feel sorry for them though, ultimate decimation.
    John N seems quite the deluded sycophant. I almost feel sorry for them if they weren't enemies of Scotland.
  • Neil
    Neil Posts: 7,983
    edited May 2015
    IOS said:

    Neil

    If Simon does lose - then I win the war.

    You managed to get a GE prediction wrong before the GE was even held!

    I, for one (well, two including JohnO), will be looking out for those Labour gains in Cornwall.

  • KentRising
    KentRising Posts: 2,926

    Office poll of The 4 under thirties this evening:

    I might vote for cleggy again
    I'm not voting, they are all shit
    I'm not telling but it's not labour
    I like David Cameron, I'm voting for him.

    Same person, just at 4 different times of the day?!
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    IOS said:

    London Labour Sean. As is Hornsey and Wood Green a Labour gain.

    London Labour don't seem to be winning Battersea (similar seat) or Croydon Central (more marginal).
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


  • Cyclefree
    Cyclefree Posts: 25,709
    edited May 2015
    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.
    It's not just Jews who are horrified by his "Islamophobia" pledge. Anyone who believes in free speech rather than its suppression; anyone who does not want to dance to the Islamist agenda; anyone who does not want to give (inadvertent) succour to terrorists and their sympathizers and appeasers; anyone who does not want to give rocket boosters to those who think their religion should excuse them from any scrutiny or criticism at all - all such people and others are - or should be - horrified by such craven politicking.

  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Pong said:

    Office poll of The 4 under thirties this evening:

    I might vote for cleggy again
    I'm not voting, they are all shit
    I'm not telling but it's not labour
    I like David Cameron, I'm voting for him.

    Marginal constituency?
    Results of Election
    UKIP 2
    Lib Dem 1
    Conservative 1

    UKIP Gain.
  • Cyclefree
    Cyclefree Posts: 25,709

    @seant

    if you were searchin for Labour in Holborn today...they were in Regents Park this morning. In the afternoon Starmer was at the Mosque

    Balls and Boris Johnson were in Hampstead and Kilburn today. Balls dacing with old oldies while a jogger shouted "bulla bulla" at Boris while walking on the street

    One hopes Keir Starmer has read the bit in the Tower Hamlets judgment about the misuse of spiritual influence to get votes.



  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    'Coward'

    BBC Radio 4
    Posted at 20:09
    Speaking on Any Questions, Labour's Yvette Cooper calls David Miliband a "coward" for not agreeing to a one-on-one debate with Ed Miliband.
  • IOS
    IOS Posts: 1,450
    Battersea ain't much of a target. Croydon central we will win.
  • SMukesh
    SMukesh Posts: 1,759
    What a surprise in Peterborough,the one seat which I thought Labour can`t win due to heightened immigration concerns there!

    I wonder if there are other seats where Labour is going to come through the middle while the Tories and UKIP middle it out!
  • philiph
    philiph Posts: 4,705
    IOS said:

    Battersea ain't much of a target. Croydon central we will win.

    In 2020 or 2025?
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS
  • Chance of an sizable upset on the Isle of Wight. The Conservative incumbent has been hit by scandal after scandal in this campaign and, although I used to believe that anything standing under the Conservative banner would win here, events in the last week have changed my view. A credible UKIP candidate is available at 11/2.
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    Ed Milliband on BBC1 now. Not sure he should get his own slot so close to Election Day.
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    edited May 2015
    SMukesh said:

    What a surprise in Peterborough,the one seat which I thought Labour can`t win due to heightened immigration concerns there!

    I wonder if there are other seats where Labour is going to come through the middle while the Tories and UKIP middle it out!

    UKIP actually take a higher proportion of 2010 Labour voters than Tories according to the tables.
  • Neil
    Neil Posts: 7,983
    SMukesh said:

    What a surprise in Peterborough

    The incumbent MP must have a door-step manner every bit as charming as his posting style.
  • Tabman
    Tabman Posts: 1,046

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Traditional Glasgow hospitality
  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

  • franklyn
    franklyn Posts: 328
    dr_spyn said:

    'Coward'

    BBC Radio 4
    Posted at 20:09
    Speaking on Any Questions, Labour's Yvette Cooper calls David Miliband a "coward" for not agreeing to a one-on-one debate with Ed Miliband.

    David Milliband?
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    IOS said:

    Sean

    Why can't he do deals with the Tories. They don't even have to vote for it. They can just abstain and Labour have a massive majority.

    And what's in it for the Tories?
  • richardDodd
    richardDodd Posts: 5,472
    The cartoon is a bit off...
  • Stereotomy
    Stereotomy Posts: 4,092
    franklyn said:

    dr_spyn said:

    'Coward'

    BBC Radio 4
    Posted at 20:09
    Speaking on Any Questions, Labour's Yvette Cooper calls David Miliband a "coward" for not agreeing to a one-on-one debate with Ed Miliband.

    David Milliband?
    That coward!
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    dr_spyn said:

    'Coward'

    BBC Radio 4
    Posted at 20:09
    Speaking on Any Questions, Labour's Yvette Cooper calls David Miliband a "coward" for not agreeing to a one-on-one debate with Ed Miliband.

    Was that her misspeaking or you mistyping?
  • GeoffM
    GeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Chance of an sizable upset on the Isle of Wight. The Conservative incumbent has been hit by scandal after scandal in this campaign and, although I used to believe that anything standing under the Conservative banner would win here, events in the last week have changed my view. A credible UKIP candidate is available at 11/2.

    Not sure where you get the "anything standing" bit from as it was LibDem until 2001

    And "scandal after scandal" is a bit of an odd way to describe a nutty ex girlfriend stalking him.

    Apart from that; good accurate post.
  • david_herdson
    david_herdson Posts: 18,357
    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100

    Chance of an sizable upset on the Isle of Wight. The Conservative incumbent has been hit by scandal after scandal in this campaign and, although I used to believe that anything standing under the Conservative banner would win here, events in the last week have changed my view. A credible UKIP candidate is available at 11/2.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-england-32495823
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-england-32286776
    http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/isle-of-wight-conservative-campaign-condemned-by-tory-agent-80776.aspx


    A Shakespeare play:

    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1391/hp-sauce
    "Tory agent disowns his own candidate!"
    "Anomalies’ in campaign finances
    The agent is also seriously worried by “significant anomalies and ambiguities” in campaign finances, again involving Lady Macbeth"

    It doesn't matter though, Tory voters have the lowest standards of all.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    Neil said:

    SMukesh said:

    What a surprise in Peterborough

    The incumbent MP must have a door-step manner every bit as charming as his posting style.
    But not as charming as his predecessor's bar manner.

    Sadly the YouTube video is no longer available.
  • franklyn
    franklyn Posts: 328

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    Penultimate ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election & "JackW Dozen" Projection Countdown :

    12 hours
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608

    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
    I think they are talking about who does the best job for PM, who for Chancellor... as opposed to a normal VI poll.
  • GeoffM
    GeoffM Posts: 6,071

    IOS said:

    Sean

    Why can't he do deals with the Tories. They don't even have to vote for it. They can just abstain and Labour have a massive majority.

    And what's in it for the Tories?
    There's nothing in it for the Tories and more importantly there's nothing in it for the country.
  • Neil
    Neil Posts: 7,983

    Neil said:

    SMukesh said:

    What a surprise in Peterborough

    The incumbent MP must have a door-step manner every bit as charming as his posting style.
    But not as charming as his predecessor's bar manner.

    Sadly the YouTube video is no longer available.
    Ah, the Venerable Helen. Once a great PBC favourite until it became wrong to laugh at her. We'll always have Our Jane.

  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited May 2015

    I'm noticing a grudging respect from some quarters of the right wing press.

    James Chapman (Mail) ‏@jameschappers 6 mins6 minutes ago
    Alarming that @NicolaSturgeon grasps implications of Fixed Term Parliaments Act (aka Dave's worst mistake) better than Westminster leaders

    I don't understand what people keep going on about with the Fixed Term Parliaments Act changing anything. As far as I see it, if a vote of no confidence is passed, the government falls the same as it always did. The only difference that the Act makes is the PM loses the power to call an election at a time of his choosing (in theory anyway, if he doesn't engineer a VoNC).
  • peterbuss
    peterbuss Posts: 109

    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
    It's probably a poll comparing the two front benches .

  • slade
    slade Posts: 2,200
    As a Lib Dem member I have been deluged with emails over the last few days from Lib Den HQ asking for money. No surprise there then! But today there was a message asking specifically for money for Christine Jardine, Layla Moran and Jasper Gerard. It suggest they are behind but within touching distance.
  • Neil
    Neil Posts: 7,983
    edited May 2015
    franklyn said:

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
    Somewhere out there a village is missing its idiot.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312

    dr_spyn said:

    'Coward'

    BBC Radio 4
    Posted at 20:09
    Speaking on Any Questions, Labour's Yvette Cooper calls David Miliband a "coward" for not agreeing to a one-on-one debate with Ed Miliband.

    Was that her misspeaking or you mistyping?
    I didn't mistype it - have screen grab as well.

    Might be a misspeak by Mrs Balls, or a mistype by Beeboid.

  • Danny565
    Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Is the Sun talking about their usual YouGov poll?
  • SMukesh
    SMukesh Posts: 1,759
    (Lab target number) Swing Con to Labour

    Pudsey(26) +1.0
    Croydon Central(47) +1.0
    Wirral West(50) +4.5
    Norwich North(68) +6.0
    Peterborough(79) +6.0
    Stourbridge(81) +4.5
    Battersea(89) 0

  • Eh_ehm_a_eh
    Eh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    franklyn said:

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
    Vot is your name?

  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited May 2015
    SeanT said:

    This is interesting.

    Miliband is doubling down on the "no deal" talk.

    http://labourlist.org/2015/05/miliband-tells-scotland-there-will-be-no-deal-no-pact-no-coalition-no-tie-in-with-the-snp/

    That is SO unequivocal I am starting to wonder (I know, I know) if he is telling the truth, and not just blatantly lying.

    Perhaps he means it? Would he forego the chance to be PM if he had to rely on SNP support?

    I can't believe he would. And yet he is setting himself up for a terrible fall with these adamantine statements.

    He would still be PM even if the SNP refuses to support him, and then he would go to the polls in October or earlier saying that he told the truth about the SNP scare stories.

    "A vote for the SNP is a lost vote ect ect."
  • Artist
    Artist Posts: 1,893
    edited May 2015
    The Sun could be talking about yesterday's Ipsos Mori.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    SeanT said:

    This is interesting.

    Miliband is doubling down on the "no deal" talk.

    http://labourlist.org/2015/05/miliband-tells-scotland-there-will-be-no-deal-no-pact-no-coalition-no-tie-in-with-the-snp/

    That is SO unequivocal I am starting to wonder (I know, I know) if he is telling the truth, and not just blatantly lying.

    Perhaps he means it? Would he forego the chance to be PM if he had to rely on SNP support?

    I can't believe he would. And yet he is setting himself up for a terrible fall with these adamantine statements.

    Perhaps his team are telling him that they are being killed on the doorstep by this issue?

  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    SeanT said:

    peterbuss said:

    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
    It's probably a poll comparing the two front benches .

    It says it was "published a day ago". Therefore it is almost certainly the Ipsos MORI from yesterday. Next.
    The Sun is running out of polls with Tory leads?
    Or tonight's yougov poll is not favourable?
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    Neil said:

    franklyn said:

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
    Somewhere out there a village is missing its idiot.
    Sturgeon is worse than Hitler.
  • Grandiose
    Grandiose Posts: 2,323
    SeanT said:

    This is interesting.

    Miliband is doubling down on the "no deal" talk.

    http://labourlist.org/2015/05/miliband-tells-scotland-there-will-be-no-deal-no-pact-no-coalition-no-tie-in-with-the-snp/

    That is SO unequivocal I am starting to wonder (I know, I know) if he is telling the truth, and not just blatantly lying.

    Perhaps he means it? Would he forego the chance to be PM if he had to rely on SNP support?

    I can't believe he would. And yet he is setting himself up for a terrible fall with these adamantine statements.

    Does he even know?

    Why the hell did it take him this long if he didn't want a deal?

    Has he changed his mind? Been persuaded by the polls?
  • Chris123
    Chris123 Posts: 174
    edited May 2015
    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
    Who were the lunatics that bombed Libya on the basis of construed and manufactured claims? Clinton, Sharkozy and Camoron. It was this trio that unleashed a profound humanitarian crisis that continues to this very day. Of course, Milibad can't exact any political capital from it because he approved. Compared to these seasoned crooks, the SNP are absolutely tame.
  • leslie48
    leslie48 Posts: 33
    SeanT said "Basically Sturgeon can block almost any legislation proposed by Labour", You have not been paying attention during debates if they are progressive , helping low paid, disabled, kids, NHS, zero hours contracts, food banks etc., - she will not oppose just as PC or Green would not. She like many others would not want another election and the Scots would punish her for that. Like nearly all European societies we have to evolve our politics in a multi-party context.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    SeanT said:

    peterbuss said:

    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
    It's probably a poll comparing the two front benches .

    It says it was "published a day ago". Therefore it is almost certainly the Ipsos MORI from yesterday. Next.
    If the Sun is more interested in yesterday's MORI for someone else than today's YouGov for themselves then it doesn't suggest that the latter fits their narrative.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    slade said:

    As a Lib Dem member I have been deluged with emails over the last few days from Lib Den HQ asking for money. No surprise there then! But today there was a message asking specifically for money for Christine Jardine, Layla Moran and Jasper Gerard. It suggest they are behind but within touching distance.

    I have been getting begging emails for for Lorely Burt so may just be targetting.

    PB posterwatch: orange diamonds breaking out in Harborough.

    I did post a Labour minivan going up the A47 towards Peterborough yesterday, so there may be something in all this...
  • Carnyx
    Carnyx Posts: 44,654
    Sean_F said:

    Neil said:

    franklyn said:

    SeanT said:

    Sean_F said:

    IOS said:

    Why not Sean?

    12% Conservative majority. How is that a nailed on gain? It has a huge Jewish population, a Jews are heavily Conservative.
    With Miliband's craven "Islamophobia" pledge, I reckon British Jews must be about 95% Tory by now, apart from a few north London intellectuals, like Ed Miliband MP.

    As for Scotland, what the F is going on? -

    @Conorpope
    At Labour rally in Glasgow. Protesters outside screaming "scum", "quisling", "Red Tories out" at people and filming us as we go in. Grim.

    The demon of nationalism. In our own country. Sad.


    Chris Deerin @chrisdeerin

    Labour pal who's with Miliband in Glasgow was chased by SNPers. One put a finger in his face and shouted 'You English fucking cunt'


    Thatcher got worse, but had bigger balls than this Labour lot.

    The SNP should of course really be called the Scottish Nazi party. They were formed in 1934, in the wake of Hitler's rise to power in 1933, and during the 1939-45 war encouraged Scots not to fight for Britain.
    Now (as in the referendum (when I never saw a NO poster that hadn't been torn down or defaced, we are seeing them in their true colours.
    Somewhere out there a village is missing its idiot.
    Sturgeon is worse than Hitler.
    http://www.amazon.com/Challenge-50114-Turbo-Troll-Bucket/dp/B001445S4Y
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Poor ramping lets see what YG VI says
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    SeanT said:

    peterbuss said:

    chestnut said:

    Sun Politics ‏@SunPolitics 2m2 minutes ago
    Tory top team smash Labour in crunch poll week before election http://sunpl.us/6011AVPS

    Hmm. If it's a 5-pt Con lead, that's significant. If it's a 5-pt lead for Cameron as 'best PM', that's also significant though for the opposite reason.
    It's probably a poll comparing the two front benches .

    It says it was "published a day ago". Therefore it is almost certainly the Ipsos MORI from yesterday. Next.
    No, I think it's a poll of the front bench.
  • Speedy said:


    Chance of an sizable upset on the Isle of Wight. The Conservative incumbent has been hit by scandal after scandal in this campaign and, although I used to believe that anything standing under the Conservative banner would win here, events in the last week have changed my view. A credible UKIP candidate is available at 11/2.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-england-32495823
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-england-32286776
    http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/isle-of-wight-conservative-campaign-condemned-by-tory-agent-80776.aspx


    A Shakespeare play:

    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1391/hp-sauce
    "Tory agent disowns his own candidate!"
    "Anomalies’ in campaign finances
    The agent is also seriously worried by “significant anomalies and ambiguities” in campaign finances, again involving Lady Macbeth"

    It doesn't matter though, Tory voters have the lowest standards of all.
    GeoffM said:

    Chance of an sizable upset on the Isle of Wight. The Conservative incumbent has been hit by scandal after scandal in this campaign and, although I used to believe that anything standing under the Conservative banner would win here, events in the last week have changed my view. A credible UKIP candidate is available at 11/2.

    Not sure where you get the "anything standing" bit from as it was LibDem until 2001

    And "scandal after scandal" is a bit of an odd way to describe a nutty ex girlfriend stalking him.

    Apart from that; good accurate post.

    The latest is https://vine.co/v/e7JOIaae2eI and http://www.yoppul.co.uk/yoppulv1/2015/04/video-isle-of-wight-general-election-interviews-2015/

    Although singing on camera is no crime, and talking of your admiration for Enoch Powell may go down rather well with some.

    Yes, there was a Lib Dem MP from '97 to 2001, but since then the Conservative majority has risen to over 10,000.
  • Plato
    Plato Posts: 15,724
    Do we know for definite if another ComRes is coming out? Haven't seen any trailers for it.
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