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They can't stop his re-election, unless they have a majority against him in 2015.

Maybe we are going for an extension to the Parliamentary term to keep Labour out!!!

Silly hype. It's just a dry procedural rule change:

'Under existing procedures, if a Speaker’s re-election is opposed there is a public vote of all MPs which can deter opponents from voting against the incumbent for fear of being blacklisted if the bid to dump them fails.

Under Mr Hague’s plan, around a dozen MPs would be required to call out in the Commons that they opposed Mr Bercow staying in the job he has held since 2009. A secret ballot would then be held, allowing MPs to vote against Mr Bercow without fear of reprisals.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011690/Plot-oust-Bercow-William-Hague-use-day-MP-change-rules-make-easier-oust-Speaker-election.html

Let's make it a 17 year parliament so I can get my huge private pension before Labour *s it up!

Super YG will presumably make ELBOW close to CROSSOVER due to large sample size?

See Jezza "may face police charge"

Can GUIDO start a petition to stop this happening please

I don't see why the Lib Dems are getting themselves mixed up with something like this.

Lindsay Hoyle's good performance at the budget may have swayed a few MPs against Bercow.

bigjohnowls said:

See Jezza "may face police charge"

Can GUIDO start a petition to stop this happening please

can't believe Mark Thomson was promoted to DG after biting colleague, yet Clarkson gets the boot for giving a split lip. hypocrisy.

did police pursue Farages attackers? thought not....

LMAO at Bercow - poisonous little man

It's a BERCOUP !!

Scott_P said:

It's a BERCOUP !!

Speaker's Cornered!

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/580852637811281920

@bigjohnowls
Second? OMFG! This is an utter disaster for Milliband. Someone ring Con Home immediately.

Ave_it said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

bigjohnowls said:

Super YG will presumably make ELBOW close to CROSSOVER due to large sample size?

It was 0.1% in favour of the Tories when I included the Times YG, but including Survation now makes it 0.0%!!

Everything counts (in small amounts)!

Ave it! Didn't see you at the Shooting Star last week - maybe next time?

If you want to go to 2 decimal places, it's Lab 0.02% ahead in fact!

kjohnw said:

bigjohnowls said:

See Jezza "may face police charge"

Can GUIDO start a petition to stop this happening please

can't believe Mark Thomson was promoted to DG after biting colleague, yet Clarkson gets the boot for giving a split lip. hypocrisy.

did police pursue Farages attackers? thought not....

Somebody has put Farage in A&E?

Must have missed that.


Not sure police are pursuing Jezza just seen "may face police charge"

5 million must be nailed on if GUIDO starts a petition surely

@bigjohnowls
Apparently the cops want to look at the papers from the BBC hearing. The rest is conjecture.

Scott_P said:

Trouble at home...?

Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to reassert she is the SNP leader after Alex Salmond undermined her demands for propping up a minority Labour government after the general election.

The First Minister insisted that her predecessor is merely a member of her “team” and “I’m leading the SNP campaign” after he said he would install Ed Miliband in Downing Street regardless of whether a power-sharing deal was reached.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11495619/Nicola-Sturgeon-Im-SNP-leader-not-Alex-Salmond.html

Oh, wait, Eck swanning about drinking pink champagne and contradicting Nicola is all part of the masterplan.

Riiiggghhhhtttttt...

The Telegraph as a serious source of facts and analysis about the SNP? Alan Cochrane's admissions in his book would give any reasonable person cause to think thrice on that notion.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Ave_it said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

bigjohnowls said:

Super YG will presumably make ELBOW close to CROSSOVER due to large sample size?

It was 0.1% in favour of the Tories when I included the Times YG, but including Survation now makes it 0.0%!!

Everything counts (in small amounts)!

Ave it! Didn't see you at the Shooting Star last week - maybe next time?

If you want to go to 2 decimal places, it's Lab 0.02% ahead in fact!

I was with Spandau Ballet! With 18,000 others!

Hope you are well!

bigjohnowls said:

kjohnw said:

bigjohnowls said:

See Jezza "may face police charge"

Can GUIDO start a petition to stop this happening please

can't believe Mark Thomson was promoted to DG after biting colleague, yet Clarkson gets the boot for giving a split lip. hypocrisy.

did police pursue Farages attackers? thought not....

Somebody has put Farage in A&E?

Must have missed that.


Not sure police are pursuing Jezza just seen "may face police charge"

5 million must be nailed on if GUIDO starts a petition surely

http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/22/nigel-farage-attacked-by-anti-ukip-protesters-during-family-lunch-5115816/

Judging by Mark Reckless Tweets I think UKIP is supporting Bercow.

SquareRoot said:

Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .

If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.

You presumably like donating to good causes though

SimonStClare said:

Evening all.

Perhaps someone can answer me this: what did Bercow, hope to achieve by foisting an inexperienced Aussie Clerk on the House of Commons?

Wasn't the idea that he would be freer to act with impunity as the Clerk would lack the knowledge to even internally question his actions?

I have no idea how true that could be, but Bercow's own explanation - that he wanted to split the roles, the old guard would not let him, so he thought it a good idea to hire someone patently unsuited for one of the roles - does not stand up to much scrutiny, so I'm at a loss.

Next thread title

'Plot to remove Bercow means LAB certain GE win'!

Moses_ said:

Really odd that we forget that Bercow was elected by the majority of Labour MPs just to cause trouble on the other benches. We have very short memories we really do

Payback time indeed.

* innocent face*

DUJBA!!!

JPJ2 said:

Scott_P

"Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to reassert she is the SNP leader...."

Anyone who believes anything that the Telegraph writes about Scottish politics just hasn't been paying attention.

Reports by all their journalists are out and out unionist propaganda, nothing more.

Are you saying Nicola has not reasserted her authority, and that Eck is still in charge and calling the shots?

Ok

SquareRoot said:

Scott_P said:

kle4 said:

I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?

That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office

He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..

Bring back Betty Boothroyd!

I'm sorry that being a girl is a bad thing to Tories

EPG said:

SquareRoot said:

Scott_P said:

kle4 said:

I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?

That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office

He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..

Bring back Betty Boothroyd!

I'm sorry that being a girl is a bad thing to Tories

Um, how do you square that interpretation of the quoted statement with the part about bringing back Betty Boothroyd?

kle4 said:

SimonStClare said:

Evening all.

Perhaps someone can answer me this: what did Bercow, hope to achieve by foisting an inexperienced Aussie Clerk on the House of Commons?

Wasn't the idea that he would be freer to act with impunity as the Clerk would lack the knowledge to even internally question his actions?

I have no idea how true that could be, but Bercow's own explanation - that he wanted to split the roles, the old guard would not let him, so he thought it a good idea to hire someone patently unsuited for one of the roles - does not stand up to much scrutiny, so I'm at a loss.

Cheers Mr kle4 – that’s certainly one theory that was on the table, I just thought there may have been a more principled reasoning behind it. - guess not.

Smarmeron said:

@EPG
I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.

So much so that it chose to replace them?

Smarmeron said:

@EPG
I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.

All parties have sociopaths, and no party gets a majority of the votes and they don't need to get elected, so as long as they hate those who will never vote for them anyway they are deemed politically acceptable.

59% of voters think a Labour SNP coalition would be the worst possible election result
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011217/Labour-SNP-coalition-WORST-possible-outcome-general-election-say-voters.html

HYUFD said:

59% of voters think a Labour SNP coalition would be the worst possible election result
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011217/Labour-SNP-coalition-WORST-possible-outcome-general-election-say-voters.html

To put that in context that is similar to the 52% that say in the same poll that the current CON-LD coalition will be the worst possible election result.

What I don't get is if the Tories and LDs want rid of Bercow the easiest way to get rid of him would surely be to both stand candidates in Buckingham.

In 2005, when Bercow was a Con the vote was Con 57%, Lab 20%, LD 20%, UKIP 3%
In 2010 as speaker it was Bercow 44%, John Stevens 21%, Farage 17%, various others 18%

Now if Bercow picked up much of the LD and Lab vote, then that suggests he didn't hold on to much of his Con vote.

UKIP and Green are already standing against him and if Con and LD did too I couldn't see him winning

I thought Matt today was good

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=11492853

But tomorrow is better

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=11495763

TheScreamingEagles said:

YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 6%

Tick tock as I am sure Nick will say.

UKIP holding steady.

TheScreamingEagles said:

YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 6%

Game is up for Dave. That Labour score is looking far too solid. Given what we know is happening in Scotland, the Tories are looking fucked in England.

kle4 said:

Smarmeron said:

@EPG
I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.

I have often thought I would feel much more inclined to definitively call myself a lefty if some on the left did not pretend only Tories make statements implying disdain or hatred for other parts of or members of this country.

What KLE4 said !

Could never be a lefty though in that sense of the word. Doesn't mean I don't have empathy or compassion for those less fortunate of course and I make good that by my deeds in the world.

That's the issue and the problem with all lefties they think they have the monopoly on this.

YOU DONT !

@ Ave It

Hello my old chum. I am due to see Spandau this Saturday on their tour. How were they?

You do not need a TV licence if you only watch content after it's been shown on television. This includes TV programmes downloaded or streamed after broadcast using a catch-up service.

So if you record live programme you do

According to BBC

Actually this Thread is old news OGH:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882185/MPs-secret-plot-boot-Bercow-Speaker-General-Election-May.html

This was published on Dec.20th 2014

"John Bercow faces a secret cross-party bid to boot him out as Commons Speaker next year.
MPs across the main parties are privately plotting to replace him with a new Speaker after the general election in May.
In a dramatic move, they plan to change Commons' procedure to introduce a secret ballot for any motion to sack Mr Bercow."

Tykejohnno said:

Ave_it said:

LAB running away with it!

CON all over!!!

Forget the pension!!!!

Will we see a tory lead for rest of week ?

Not till GE2020 when Camo steps down!

CON 34 (-1) LAB 35 (=) LIB 8 (=) UKIP 12 (=) GRN 6 (=)

TheScreamingEagles said:

YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 6%

The return of the 35% strategy?

Goodnight.

Definitely feels like Labour are recovering a bit. Not doing Tory hopes for a sub 30 Labour score much good.

From the Yougov megapoll the -> SNP switching was 44% of Lab 2010, 50% of LD and 20% of Con 2010 vote !

That implies like 50%.

This weeks Polls 3 LAB leads 3 ties and one Tory lead

All 7 have EICIPM (2.32 Betfair was 2.54 yesrerday)

HYUFD said:

Pulpstar Though confidence and supply has not

That's my point, the journalism around this election has been utterly uninformed, misleading and generally awful. I'm not even talking about the blatant partisanship on display either.

Worse than debt/deficit mix ups.