Maybe we are going for an extension to the Parliamentary term to keep Labour out!!!
That's the only thing the scoundrels can do to keep their snouts in the trough ! Or, is the World Wildlife Fund campaigning to save the Lib Dems going extinct ?
Silly hype. It's just a dry procedural rule change:
'Under existing procedures, if a Speaker’s re-election is opposed there is a public vote of all MPs which can deter opponents from voting against the incumbent for fear of being blacklisted if the bid to dump them fails.
Under Mr Hague’s plan, around a dozen MPs would be required to call out in the Commons that they opposed Mr Bercow staying in the job he has held since 2009. A secret ballot would then be held, allowing MPs to vote against Mr Bercow without fear of reprisals.'
Where would the Conservatives find an expert in HoC procedure to provide the right advice for this move ? Has Bercow made an enemy in current or previous staff? Innocent face.
I do hope that that little man bercow goes. He is absolutely ghastly and his departure would mean his ghastly wife's contributions would become even more valueless and less worth reporting.
Perhaps she can take him away for 25 yrs of dirty weeks in Cornwall
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to reassert she is the SNP leader after Alex Salmond undermined her demands for propping up a minority Labour government after the general election.
The First Minister insisted that her predecessor is merely a member of her “team” and “I’m leading the SNP campaign” after he said he would install Ed Miliband in Downing Street regardless of whether a power-sharing deal was reached.
Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to reassert she is the SNP leader after Alex Salmond undermined her demands for propping up a minority Labour government after the general election.
The First Minister insisted that her predecessor is merely a member of her “team” and “I’m leading the SNP campaign” after he said he would install Ed Miliband in Downing Street regardless of whether a power-sharing deal was reached.
Oh, wait, Eck swanning about drinking pink champagne and contradicting Nicola is all part of the masterplan.
Riiiggghhhhtttttt...
The Telegraph as a serious source of facts and analysis about the SNP? Alan Cochrane's admissions in his book would give any reasonable person cause to think thrice on that notion.
Trying to get rid of Bercow is a high risk strategy, what happens if Labour prefer Bercow after the election simply to cause problems within the Tory party? Also if Bercow stays he will want revenge, having a vengeful Speaker is not going to work for the Tories if in opposition.
I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?
That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office
He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.
You presumably like donating to good causes though
Perhaps someone can answer me this: what did Bercow, hope to achieve by foisting an inexperienced Aussie Clerk on the House of Commons?
Wasn't the idea that he would be freer to act with impunity as the Clerk would lack the knowledge to even internally question his actions?
I have no idea how true that could be, but Bercow's own explanation - that he wanted to split the roles, the old guard would not let him, so he thought it a good idea to hire someone patently unsuited for one of the roles - does not stand up to much scrutiny, so I'm at a loss.
Really odd that we forget that Bercow was elected by the majority of Labour MPs just to cause trouble on the other benches. We have very short memories we really do
Really odd that we forget that Bercow was elected by the majority of Labour MPs just to cause trouble on the other benches. We have very short memories we really do
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.
You presumably like donating to good causes though
Good point, but you only need to switch on the tv for 5 secs and its on BBC and you are caught..
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.
You presumably like donating to good causes though
If you record them you need a TV licence. Only services not "broadcast live" are not covered, such as iPlayer.
I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?
That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office
He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..
Bring back Betty Boothroyd!
I'm sorry that being a girl is a bad thing to Tories
I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?
That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office
He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..
Bring back Betty Boothroyd!
I'm sorry that being a girl is a bad thing to Tories
Um, how do you square that interpretation of the quoted statement with the part about bringing back Betty Boothroyd?
@EPG I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
Perhaps someone can answer me this: what did Bercow, hope to achieve by foisting an inexperienced Aussie Clerk on the House of Commons?
Wasn't the idea that he would be freer to act with impunity as the Clerk would lack the knowledge to even internally question his actions?
I have no idea how true that could be, but Bercow's own explanation - that he wanted to split the roles, the old guard would not let him, so he thought it a good idea to hire someone patently unsuited for one of the roles - does not stand up to much scrutiny, so I'm at a loss.
Cheers Mr kle4 – that’s certainly one theory that was on the table, I just thought there may have been a more principled reasoning behind it. - guess not.
@EPG I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
I have often thought I would feel much more inclined to definitively call myself a lefty if some on the left did not pretend only Tories make statements implying disdain or hatred for other parts of or members of this country.
@EPG I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
Let's make it a 17 year parliament so I can get my huge private pension before Labour *s it up!
LOL .....I only need 11
Interesting that the only real support for Bercow comes from the left. Meanwhile the lefty biter is fine to become a DG but the righty biffer has to be sacked and chased by plod.
Can we not for the sake of being equal and fair to all concerned just say what Labour said when Prescott belted a protestor
It's just john being john.... Nothing to see here move along.
@EPG I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
All parties have sociopaths, and no party gets a majority of the votes and they don't need to get elected, so as long as they hate those who will never vote for them anyway they are deemed politically acceptable.
I know Bercow has his enemies, and not without reason, but are overt moves against the Speaker really a good idea for the sake of the office?
That depends if the occupant has demeaned the office
He's not up to the job.. There are any number of reasons why he should go. he shouts like a girl at PMQ's and cannot control the house without threats..
Bring back Betty Boothroyd!
I'm sorry that being a girl is a bad thing to Tories
Um, how do you square that interpretation of the quoted statement with the part about bringing back Betty Boothroyd?
He has girly footstamping tantrums. Betty Boothroyd was a brilliant speaker, irrespective of her party allegiance. So was Lord Tonypandy, and in his own way Bernard Weatherill.
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.
You presumably like donating to good causes though
Not true. Wrong. Erroneous. Incorrect. At variance with the actuality.
To put that in context that is similar to the 52% that say in the same poll that the current CON-LD coalition will be the worst possible election result.
What I don't get is if the Tories and LDs want rid of Bercow the easiest way to get rid of him would surely be to both stand candidates in Buckingham.
In 2005, when Bercow was a Con the vote was Con 57%, Lab 20%, LD 20%, UKIP 3% In 2010 as speaker it was Bercow 44%, John Stevens 21%, Farage 17%, various others 18%
Now if Bercow picked up much of the LD and Lab vote, then that suggests he didn't hold on to much of his Con vote.
UKIP and Green are already standing against him and if Con and LD did too I couldn't see him winning
Next on the list is the appalling BBC. time for an end of the licence fee and make the buggers work for a living, no ratings=no income.. I couldn't give a toss about adverts , I never watch anything live so I fast forwards thro the ads, saves hours on a weekly round of tv progs .
If you never watch live TV no need to buy a licence.
You presumably like donating to good causes though
Not true. Wrong. Erroneous. Incorrect. At variance with the actuality.
You also need a licence if you record from live broadcasts to watch later.
What I don't get is if the Tories and LDs want rid of Bercow the easiest way to get rid of him would surely be to both stand candidates in Buckingham.
In 2005, when Bercow was a Con the vote was Con 57%, Lab 20%, LD 20%, UKIP 3% In 2010 as speaker it was Bercow 44%, John Stevens 21%, Farage 17%, various others 18%
Now if Bercow picked up much of the LD and Lab vote, then that suggests he didn't hold on to much of his Con vote.
UKIP and Green are already standing against him and if Con and LD did too I couldn't see him winning
No lance the boil before the GE. Force him to stand down,
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 6%
Game is up for Dave. That Labour score is looking far too solid. Given what we know is happening in Scotland, the Tories are looking fucked in England.
@EPG I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
I have often thought I would feel much more inclined to definitively call myself a lefty if some on the left did not pretend only Tories make statements implying disdain or hatred for other parts of or members of this country.
What KLE4 said !
Could never be a lefty though in that sense of the word. Doesn't mean I don't have empathy or compassion for those less fortunate of course and I make good that by my deeds in the world.
That's the issue and the problem with all lefties they think they have the monopoly on this.
You do not need a TV licence if you only watch content after it's been shown on television. This includes TV programmes downloaded or streamed after broadcast using a catch-up service.
"John Bercow faces a secret cross-party bid to boot him out as Commons Speaker next year. MPs across the main parties are privately plotting to replace him with a new Speaker after the general election in May. In a dramatic move, they plan to change Commons' procedure to introduce a secret ballot for any motion to sack Mr Bercow."
Really odd that we forget that Bercow was elected by the majority of Labour MPs just to cause trouble on the other benches. We have very short memories we really do
Speedy/TSE Interestingly a Tory government is the least unpopular and the most wanted, I remain of the view it will be a Tory minority government backed by the LDs and DUP, Opinium on Sunday had it Tory 36% Labour 33%, that could well be how it ends up
Sun Politics @SunPolitics 7m7 minutes ago Baroness Warsi sparks fears she may defect after agreeing to speak at wannabe Labour MP’s meeting on Islamophobia: http://sunpl.us/6013N1cF
Sun Politics @SunPolitics 7m7 minutes ago Baroness Warsi sparks fears she may defect after agreeing to speak at wannabe Labour MP’s meeting on Islamophobia: http://sunpl.us/6013N1cF
That's my point, the journalism around this election has been utterly uninformed, misleading and generally awful. I'm not even talking about the blatant partisanship on display either.
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'Under existing procedures, if a Speaker’s re-election is opposed there is a public vote of all MPs which can deter opponents from voting against the incumbent for fear of being blacklisted if the bid to dump them fails.
Under Mr Hague’s plan, around a dozen MPs would be required to call out in the Commons that they opposed Mr Bercow staying in the job he has held since 2009. A secret ballot would then be held, allowing MPs to vote against Mr Bercow without fear of reprisals.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011690/Plot-oust-Bercow-William-Hague-use-day-MP-change-rules-make-easier-oust-Speaker-election.html
Can GUIDO start a petition to stop this happening please
Has Bercow made an enemy in current or previous staff?
Innocent face.
Lindsay Hoyle's good performance at the budget may have swayed a few MPs against Bercow.
did police pursue Farages attackers? thought not....
Perhaps she can take him away for 25 yrs of dirty weeks in Cornwall
Dave is a crap tosser clearly
Oh, wait, Eck swanning about drinking pink champagne and contradicting Nicola is all part of the masterplan.
Riiiggghhhhtttttt...
Second? OMFG! This is an utter disaster for Milliband. Someone ring Con Home immediately.
If you want to go to 2 decimal places, it's Lab 0.02% ahead in fact!
Must have missed that.
Not sure police are pursuing Jezza just seen "may face police charge"
5 million must be nailed on if GUIDO starts a petition surely
Apparently the cops want to look at the papers from the BBC hearing. The rest is conjecture.
Bully boy Dave bullying Bercow will only impress Tory fanboys.
Oh, wait, Eck swanning about drinking pink champagne and contradicting Nicola is all part of the masterplan.
Riiiggghhhhtttttt...
The Telegraph as a serious source of facts and analysis about the SNP? Alan Cochrane's admissions in his book would give any reasonable person cause to think thrice on that notion.
Perhaps someone can answer me this: what did Bercow, hope to achieve by foisting an inexperienced Aussie Clerk on the House of Commons?
Hope you are well!
Also if Bercow stays he will want revenge, having a vengeful Speaker is not going to work for the Tories if in opposition.
Bring back Betty Boothroyd!
You presumably like donating to good causes though
I have no idea how true that could be, but Bercow's own explanation - that he wanted to split the roles, the old guard would not let him, so he thought it a good idea to hire someone patently unsuited for one of the roles - does not stand up to much scrutiny, so I'm at a loss.
"Nicola Sturgeon has been forced to reassert she is the SNP leader...."
Anyone who believes anything that the Telegraph writes about Scottish politics just hasn't been paying attention.
Reports by all their journalists are out and out unionist propaganda, nothing more.
'Plot to remove Bercow means LAB certain GE win'!
Payback time indeed.
* innocent face*
Ok
I have often thought, that for a party who profess a love of Britain, Tories seem to harbour an inordinate amount of hatred for the majority of its inhabitants.
Interesting that the only real support for Bercow comes from the left. Meanwhile the lefty biter is fine to become a DG but the righty biffer has to be sacked and chased by plod.
Can we not for the sake of being equal and fair to all concerned just say what Labour said when Prescott belted a protestor
It's just john being john.... Nothing to see here move along.
Leftie punch good rightie punch bad
As always........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011217/Labour-SNP-coalition-WORST-possible-outcome-general-election-say-voters.html
In 2005, when Bercow was a Con the vote was Con 57%, Lab 20%, LD 20%, UKIP 3%
In 2010 as speaker it was Bercow 44%, John Stevens 21%, Farage 17%, various others 18%
Now if Bercow picked up much of the LD and Lab vote, then that suggests he didn't hold on to much of his Con vote.
UKIP and Green are already standing against him and if Con and LD did too I couldn't see him winning
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=11492853
But tomorrow is better
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=11495763
UKIP holding steady.
CON all over!!!
Forget the pension!!!!
Could never be a lefty though in that sense of the word. Doesn't mean I don't have empathy or compassion for those less fortunate of course and I make good that by my deeds in the world.
That's the issue and the problem with all lefties they think they have the monopoly on this.
YOU DONT !
You mean the letter I received from the licensing people telling me I didn't need one, was a forgery?
CONSERVATIVE peer Baroness Warsi has sparked Tory fears she may defect - after agreeing to headline a wannabe Labour MP’s meeting on Islamaphobia.
Hello my old chum. I am due to see Spandau this Saturday on their tour. How were they?
So if you record live programme you do
According to BBC
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882185/MPs-secret-plot-boot-Bercow-Speaker-General-Election-May.html
This was published on Dec.20th 2014
"John Bercow faces a secret cross-party bid to boot him out as Commons Speaker next year.
MPs across the main parties are privately plotting to replace him with a new Speaker after the general election in May.
In a dramatic move, they plan to change Commons' procedure to introduce a secret ballot for any motion to sack Mr Bercow."
* another innocent face*
Goodnight.
I think I understood it correctly, since it was the basis of the complaint I made against two of their inspectors.
That implies like 50%.
Pulpstar Though confidence and supply has not
All 7 have EICIPM (2.32 Betfair was 2.54 yesrerday)
Baroness Warsi sparks fears she may defect after agreeing to speak at wannabe Labour MP’s meeting on Islamophobia: http://sunpl.us/6013N1cF
Worse than debt/deficit mix ups.
That is a scary thought, don't even joke about it!