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PtP - Then why is Cameron adamently against a 1v1 debate with Miliband? I can't see any reason for him to turn that down if it's Farage who bothers him. Indeed it would be a chance to win back some kippers without competition from that side of things.0
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4xEICIPMPulpstar said:Am I the only one that's noted - Miliband is in all FOUR TV events ?
First one to say they don't give a 4x is banned for 24 hrs
Oh shite its me!!0 -
Mr. Booth, precisely because he has so much better ratings. Miliband need only turn up and fail to soil himself and he exceeds expectations.0
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Whats EICIPM?bigjohnowls said:
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Mr. Bear, Ed is crap is Prime Minister [first part based on the consensus view, latter part on the polling].0
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:-)RobD said:
All the cool kids are PB Tories.. just so you knowPurseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'0 -
Ed Is Crap Is PM. A truly horrifying thought.Purseybear said:0 -
Sunday Times
UKIP was plunged into fresh crisis last night after claims it has failed to kick out three senior figures with links to the National Front (NF) and news that Nigel Farage’s right-hand man is facing the prospect of a police investigation for alleged fraud.
.....Meanwhile, Farage’s chief of staff, Raheem Kassam, has been reported to the police for alleged fraud.0 -
To win a war you need to fight (a) the battles that you can win and (b) the battles that matter.Bob__Sykes said:On the interminable debates issue, I don't subscribe to the view that this is victory for Dave.
It's a humiliation for him. And I'm embarrassed to be a Conservative and Cameron supporter.
I cannot see why he is running away from a head to head with a someone he should be easily capable of demolishing in a one on one encounter, where he's not outnumbered by lefties.
He looks pathetic, to be frank. And no wonder EdM is going to beat him up about it all the way to May 7th. I don't blame him.
If you get the latter wrong you end up like Pyrrhus of Epirus. The former, Hannibal Barca.
Even if the is a 95% probability that Cameron wins, but there is little upside, then why take the risk?0 -
Decent news for everyone on the Tories in Halifax methinks:
George Galloway @georgegalloway · 1h 1 hour ago
I will be in Halifax on Tuesday interviewing candidates and giving a speech in the evening @ukrespectparty for details0 -
If correct that would show a swing to the Tories wouldn't it?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Yupweejonnie said:
If correct that would show a swing to the Tories wouldn't it?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Hatchet job articles are only fuelling the UKIP fire tbh.TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times
UKIP was plunged into fresh crisis last night after claims it has failed to kick out three senior figures with links to the National Front (NF) and news that Nigel Farage’s right-hand man is facing the prospect of a police investigation for alleged fraud.
.....Meanwhile, Farage’s chief of staff, Raheem Kassam, has been reported to the police for alleged fraud.0 -
egweejonnie said:
If correct that would show a swing to the Tories wouldn't it?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.0 -
@NCPoliticsUK: Important to remember when comparing polls from different pollsters: there are systematic differences (due2methodology) called house effects
@NCPoliticsUK: So even though Opinium an Survation show opposite leads, both have moved in the same direction0 -
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
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Eagles, hopefully a Respect candidate in Halifax.
Mr Galloway is looking out for pb.com bettor's positions
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I have a much higher opinion of Cameron than Liverpool. I fancy our chances tomorrow actually.TheScreamingEagles said:
As a Labour strategist put it to me, almost delighted in saying about the debates.DavidL said:
What I don't get is that Cameron's personal advantage over Miliband is huge. The Tories need to make this election as Presidential as possible. What could be more presidential than a head to head?Bob__Sykes said:On the interminable debates issue, I don't subscribe to the view that this is victory for Dave.
It's a humiliation for him. And I'm embarrassed to be a Conservative and Cameron supporter.
I cannot see why he is running away from a head to head with a someone he should be easily capable of demolishing in a one on one encounter, where he's not outnumbered by lefties.
He looks pathetic, to be frank. And no wonder EdM is going to beat him up about it all the way to May 7th. I don't blame him.
It is possible that Ed might have a good day. It is also possible that Man Utd might win the league this season. It is just not very likely is it?
Think of Cameron as Liverpool last season.
Ed Miliband as Man City
And Farage as Chelsea.
Liverpool beat City, but came a cropper against Chelsea, which ultimately handed the title to City.0 -
I still hate him though.Pulpstar said:Eagles, hopefully a Respect candidate in Halifax.
Mr Galloway is looking out for pb.com bettor's positions0 -
Well I'm at the match tomorrow.DavidL said:
I have a much higher opinion of Cameron than Liverpool. I fancy our chances tomorrow actually.TheScreamingEagles said:
As a Labour strategist put it to me, almost delighted in saying about the debates.DavidL said:
What I don't get is that Cameron's personal advantage over Miliband is huge. The Tories need to make this election as Presidential as possible. What could be more presidential than a head to head?Bob__Sykes said:On the interminable debates issue, I don't subscribe to the view that this is victory for Dave.
It's a humiliation for him. And I'm embarrassed to be a Conservative and Cameron supporter.
I cannot see why he is running away from a head to head with a someone he should be easily capable of demolishing in a one on one encounter, where he's not outnumbered by lefties.
He looks pathetic, to be frank. And no wonder EdM is going to beat him up about it all the way to May 7th. I don't blame him.
It is possible that Ed might have a good day. It is also possible that Man Utd might win the league this season. It is just not very likely is it?
Think of Cameron as Liverpool last season.
Ed Miliband as Man City
And Farage as Chelsea.
Liverpool beat City, but came a cropper against Chelsea, which ultimately handed the title to City.0 -
@faisalislam: Osborne's approval ratings (opinium) as Chancellor really pretty impressive, widespread, given Paralympic booing etc http://t.co/fsqm6GHeKO0
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exactly what i was getting atFrankBooth said:PtP - Then why is Cameron adamently against a 1v1 debate with Miliband? I can't see any reason for him to turn that down if it's Farage who bothers him. Indeed it would be a chance to win back some kippers without competition from that side of things.
Cameron's biggest asset is that people in the main are generally favourably disposed to him as PM and remaining as such - particularly when the choice is him or EdM.
A one on one without Farage or the band of Tory-haters is simply an opportunity he cannot pass up when not one single opinion poll shows him having a chance of remaining PM.
He is the one heading for defeat. He needs to do everything he can to shift that.
He coasted to a minority in 2005 when a majority was there for the taking. He's coasting to defeat this time.
F'ckwit.0 -
*Meaningless number of significant figures alert.*weejonnie said:
If correct that would show a swing to the Tories wouldn't it?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Bore off Audrey/KwokPurseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'0 -
and that direction.. toward glorious sunlit uplands!Scott_P said:@NCPoliticsUK: Important to remember when comparing polls from different pollsters: there are systematic differences (due2methodology) called house effects
@NCPoliticsUK: So even though Opinium an Survation show opposite leads, both have moved in the same direction0 -
Shh don't tell everyone its a joke!!Charles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.0 -
Most popular heir-to-a-baronetcy in the land. Where's tim when you need him?Scott_P said:@faisalislam: Osborne's approval ratings (opinium) as Chancellor really pretty impressive, widespread, given Paralympic booing etc http://t.co/fsqm6GHeKO
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6 years out off 11? HmmmCharles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.
You aren't still upset after falling for that Ganesh parody tweet are you? I am sorry ok
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Well considering Labour aren't pushing Ed in their election literature, it looks as if he has been tricked into appearing in four debates where all the other candidates will attack him on the Labour record on the economy.bigjohnowls said:
4xEICIPMPulpstar said:Am I the only one that's noted - Miliband is in all FOUR TV events ?
First one to say they don't give a 4x is banned for 24 hrs
Oh shite its me!!
Can only be good for DC.0 -
ELBOW denier, you!foxinsoxuk said:
While there is some validity in meta-analysis it does require a bit more than a weighted average.Pulpstar said:
ELBOW is your friend.foxinsoxuk said:
Equally within the margin of error with one poll wrong the Tories could be as high as 38% or as low as 28%.Purseybear said:
Thats actually untrue. they could both be right within margin of error so tories around 33%ish and labour around the same, both giving the result for these two polls so far.frpenkridge said:Well, they can't both be right, can they?
if you want to go by trend then the tories have most heart from them: up in both. but then they should be after the budget.
So I am not sure they tell us much more than we knew already.
I favour the ARSE over the ELBOW!0 -
Which won't be very funny if it actually happens.Charles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.0 -
oh gotcha!Charles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.
don't know what isam's on or got against me but I'm going to ignore the poor fella.
right. Wheres the other poll or polls? want to go to bed.0 -
This is going to cause a meltdown if this happens. From the SUnday Times
THE Conservatives could have more ethnic minority MPs elected than Labour for the first time in the next parliament, says a new study.0 -
Oh I think his optimum result would have been no debates with anybody. The closer he gets to that the better.FrankBooth said:PtP - Then why is Cameron adamently against a 1v1 debate with Miliband? I can't see any reason for him to turn that down if it's Farage who bothers him. Indeed it would be a chance to win back some kippers without competition from that side of things.
He probably feels he's got as close as he can get and has settled happily for that. Ducking a 1 to 1 with Ed is probably just a small but fortunate consequence of the bigger deal.
Avoiding Farage was the main prize though.0 -
I'd like to wish you a good day out but in the circumstances....TheScreamingEagles said:
Well I'm at the match tomorrow.DavidL said:
I have a much higher opinion of Cameron than Liverpool. I fancy our chances tomorrow actually.TheScreamingEagles said:
As a Labour strategist put it to me, almost delighted in saying about the debates.DavidL said:
What I don't get is that Cameron's personal advantage over Miliband is huge. The Tories need to make this election as Presidential as possible. What could be more presidential than a head to head?Bob__Sykes said:On the interminable debates issue, I don't subscribe to the view that this is victory for Dave.
It's a humiliation for him. And I'm embarrassed to be a Conservative and Cameron supporter.
I cannot see why he is running away from a head to head with a someone he should be easily capable of demolishing in a one on one encounter, where he's not outnumbered by lefties.
He looks pathetic, to be frank. And no wonder EdM is going to beat him up about it all the way to May 7th. I don't blame him.
It is possible that Ed might have a good day. It is also possible that Man Utd might win the league this season. It is just not very likely is it?
Think of Cameron as Liverpool last season.
Ed Miliband as Man City
And Farage as Chelsea.
Liverpool beat City, but came a cropper against Chelsea, which ultimately handed the title to City.0 -
Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.0
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Peter_the_Punter said:
It's not Ed he's bothered about, Bob. It's Farage.Bob__Sykes said:On the interminable debates issue, I don't subscribe to the view that this is victory for Dave.
It's a humiliation for him. And I'm embarrassed to be a Conservative and Cameron supporter.
I cannot see why he is running away from a head to head with a someone he should be easily capable of demolishing in a one on one encounter, where he's not outnumbered by lefties.
He looks pathetic, to be frank. And no wonder EdM is going to beat him up about it all the way to May 7th. I don't blame him.
He can easily out debate Miliband, but Farage has him over immigration, so his strategy from the outset been to minimise the potential damage from this source. He's been fairly successful so far. I'm not sure he will be able to emerge entirely unscathed. It rather depends how the 'debates' play out, but so far so good for him.
What will be interesting is the impact the Host has on the nature of the debate.
BBC and Dumblebore have the last 2, ie the Opposition debate and the "big" 3
Farage is everything Dumblebore and the BBC cant stand-I am sure that they will give him the least amount of time on subjects where he is strong. I am sure the "randomly" selected audience questions will have a strong emphasis on subjects that are not strong for Farage.
What i have no idea about is what Julie Etchingham is like.
I think too many people assume the debates will be similar in style -they wont-the host will have a distinct influence on the tone and style of each debate and this will therefore have an impact on the perceived outcome in terms of who performed best/winners and losers etc.
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You should know that Charles's family have been posting on PB since 1702.isam said:
6 years out off 11? HmmmCharles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.
You aren't still upset after falling for that Ganesh parody tweet are you? I am sorry ok
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Forgot to mention - no sign of Clegg on the election bumf which arrived today.0
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so no budget bounce. or no detectable bounce. its as I thought. think tories missed a golden chance to give something back on wednesday and they've screwed up.TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
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After all that, everything is as clear as mud. No definite sign of a bounce for the Blues.TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
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Budget unbounce confirmed andTheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
ELBOW UNCROSSOVER
40 days till EICIPM0 -
Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.0
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Was it a little project they invested in that's been a roaring success in a 'do a lot of work for charity don't like to mention it' kind of way?Theuniondivvie said:
You should know that Charles's family have been posting on PB since 1702.isam said:
6 years out off 11? HmmmCharles said:
isam is a relative newcomer. I think he just lacks confidence in himself, or something, because he does have a tendency to get all huffy.Purseybear said:
oh i see,. well no excuse for rudeness especially against relative newcomers and newbies. not unless this place is just a clique?RobD said:
I think isam has a vendetta against people with multiple accounts. He's been on a roll ever since outing a (quite obvious) previous offender.Purseybear said:
Gee thanks. Charming. If you go around flaming people like that you're not likely to win many friends. From what I've seen this is a decent enough site and you seem a bit out of odds with comments like that.isam said:Purseybear said:
Seems like she got under your skin?isam said:
Save time and space on here by looking at Audrey Annes old postsCasino_Royale said:
Disastrous?Purseybear said:
not sure. it'd be better if ashcroft polled same places every week to iron out moe esp given his disastrous polling last year.Casino_Royale said:On topic: a good start.
But not only would I want to see a similar position in other polls tonight; I'd want to see more positive news from Ashcroft's marginals polls over the coming weeks before I believe it.
Labour out to 30 on betfair. Cons 5.6. have the markets gone crazy?
You don't seem too happy. Just saying?
I think you are an absolute tool, but that's of little importance
Just sayin'
edit: EICIPM = Ed Is Crap Is PM.
It's just BJO's little joke.
You aren't still upset after falling for that Ganesh parody tweet are you? I am sorry ok0 -
Was Survation's poll taken in Ed's kitchens?
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Page 71 just next to the Classified Ads.!TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
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Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!0 -
Anyone noticing any evidence of 'ground game' - Here in 40:40 "optimistic target for the Tories NE Derbyshire" had a shiny leaflet from the Tories and Labour. But apart from that not noticed anything else.0
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So we may or may not have a bounce for the Tories, as out of 3 polls tonight one has a Tory bounce, one hasn't got a bounce at all, and one has a Labour bounce.TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
I'm off, it's Saturday night after all.0 -
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
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@Republican Tory
Yes, everybody seems to be assuming they know how these 'debates' will pan out. They could in fact be wildly unpredictable, and that, as you indicate, will give us all lovely betting opportunities!0 -
Opinium in Daily Mail press room?Ave_it said:Was Survation's poll taken in Ed's kitchens?
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I thought "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" was now preferred by discerning jingoists.isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
As for "Bog Trotter", never heard of the phrase. But if it is in general use, I can't see an atrocity making any difference, none of the other atrocities over there ever did.0 -
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.0 -
Opinium has changed it's methodology some time ago, the effect was to show smaller UKIP scores and higher Tory ones (you can see it on the graph).bigjohnowls said:
Opinium in Daily Mail press room?Ave_it said:Was Survation's poll taken in Ed's kitchens?
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So, errr, what odds on SLab to poll under 12% at the election then?TheScreamingEagles said:
The whole Scottish Sub-sample is a hoot.Pulpstar said:Eagles, Have you seen the SNP subsample ?
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**giggling like a child***TheScreamingEagles said:Sunday Times says their YouGov poll gives Labour a two point lead.
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Guinness and coke... Or cider w Ginger beerfoxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!
I like an exotic shandy
Prepare the deportation orders!!0 -
Spitfire is my current favourite, closely followed by Bombardier, will happily settle for a Directors though!foxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!
Also liking Aspells cider, not convinced it likes me though.0 -
According to Opinium 57% think that Osborne has either been a bad chancellor or they don't know, similarly 63% think that the economy is either in a bad state or they don't know.Hardly a ringing endorsement. By the way , the same poll has the Tories ahead in Wales and Labour ahead in Scotland.Pink pig time.0
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As mentioned earlier today there's serious Tory leafleting here in Morley & Outwood. On the basis of the marketing spend here it's clear the Tories think they've a chance of unseating Balls.Pulpstar said:Anyone noticing any evidence of 'ground game' - Here in 40:40 "optimistic target for the Tories NE Derbyshire" had a shiny leaflet from the Tories and Labour. But apart from that not noticed anything else.
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LAB doing loads of leafleting in Chesterfield since turn of year.Pulpstar said:Anyone noticing any evidence of 'ground game' - Here in 40:40 "optimistic target for the Tories NE Derbyshire" had a shiny leaflet from the Tories and Labour. But apart from that not noticed anything else.
2 papers, 2 leaflets a calendar in last 2 months0 -
Dudley North candidate
"Exposed: Tory's plot with race thugs to fix election" #skypapers
twitter.com/SkyNews/status/579398268465115136
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Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.0 -
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See, thats the thing. Its all very well telling everyone how great britain's doing & walking tall and all that but how many people really feel it? I don't. Do you? Anyone here? Osborne had a chance to give something back for 5 years austerity with income tax cuts and chose instead to shave some more off a national debt that most care not jot about.roserees64 said:According to Opinium 57% think that Osborne has either been a bad chancellor or they don't know, similarly 63% think that the economy is either in a bad state or they don't know.Hardly a ringing endorsement. By the way , the same poll has the Tories ahead in Wales and Labour ahead in Scotland.Pink pig time.
Will people want 5 more years of austerity? Or will they want to lighten up, live a little, relax and be at ease with ourselves? We can say "ta very much for fixing it but now we want to party".0 -
After turning a blind eye to all todays front pages in regards to Miliband's hypocrisy, I some how think this might make the BBC tomorrow...I have a feeling the BBC might be less "oh its only the right wing scumbag Daily Mail" about it.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/5793989236027842560 -
Just seen a tweet from the Sunday Herald, SNP membership has now topped 100,000
Since the Indy Referendum that averages out at 406 new members a day.
If the SNP ground game is not a tidal wave then I, and antifrank, Pulpstar and the rest are going to be very disappointed.0 -
My God.FrancisUrquhart said:I some how think this might make the BBC tomorrow...I have a feeling the BBC might be less "oh its only the Daily Mail" about it.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579398923602784256
That will swipe the UKIP scandals and the Tory Budget surely out of the news.0 -
One thing that surprised me in the Opinium Poll was that the Tories are ahead of Labour 33-28 in Wales with UKIP 3rd on 19%,0
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Looking back two of my best bets are 3-1 on the Tories in Kingswood and 3-1 Ed Balls next Chancellor. I think I got those two on around the same time. Crackers.0
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Whitstable Bay Gold is excellent (also a Sheps beer)nigel4england said:
Spitfire is my current favourite, closely followed by Bombardier, will happily settle for a Directors though!foxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!
Also liking Aspells cider, not convinced it likes me though.
Black Sheep Gold is also a fine drop.
Both are "Golden" beers but not as sweet as the summer/ autumn versions often are-a proper session beer
Unusually both are almost as good bottled as on draft.0 -
I wouldn't place bets off the back of that.Paul_Mid_Beds said:One thing that surprised me in the Opinium Poll was that the Tories are ahead of Labour 33-28 in Wales with UKIP 3rd on 19%,
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Nice MoS headline.
So, we've had LibDem, Conservative and UKIP scandals this week.
Time for a Labour one?0 -
Surprised to see MOS running that so close to GE 2015.FrancisUrquhart said:After turning a blind eye to all todays front pages in regards to Miliband's hypocrisy, I some how think this might make the BBC tomorrow...I have a feeling the BBC might be less "oh its only the right wing scumbag Daily Mail" about it.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579398923602784256
Don't think its a big story if I am honest0 -
Freeze on fuel duty when raw prices have tumbled. FTB help? 3k or whatever. Great but still unaffordable. Personal allowances yeah well great but not exactly huge was it? As for beer: 1p off a pint. Big deal.steve_garner said:
Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.
It was a weird budget: fiddling around with little bits n' pieces like church roofs and Agincourt [wtf?]. Income tax cut was what was screaming out, a bit of pay back for the hard times.
Anyway that's just me. It left me feeling cold & thinking of voting Labour.0 -
That was stupid, he wasn't going to win the seat anyway.TheScreamingEagles said:Dudley North candidate
"Exposed: Tory's plot with race thugs to fix election" #skypapers
twitter.com/SkyNews/status/579398268465115136
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More to the point which seat is this Afnal Amin in ?
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No it won'tSpeedy said:
My God.FrancisUrquhart said:I some how think this might make the BBC tomorrow...I have a feeling the BBC might be less "oh its only the Daily Mail" about it.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579398923602784256
That will swipe the UKIP scandals and the Tory Budget surely out of the news.0 -
LOL, the loadsamoney picture is classic.bigjohnowls said:
The online marketing guru Michael Green/Shapps got caught posing as a Lib Dem activist a few years back:
http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html
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Yeah ok. Somehow I think you're not quite what you seem.Purseybear said:
Freeze on fuel duty when raw prices have tumbled. FTB help? 3k or whatever. Great but still unaffordable. Personal allowances yeah well great but not exactly huge was it? As for beer: 1p off a pint. Big deal.steve_garner said:
Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.
It was a weird budget: fiddling around with little bits n' pieces like church roofs and Agincourt [wtf?]. Income tax cut was what was screaming out, a bit of pay back for the hard times.
Anyway that's just me. It left me feeling cold & thinking of voting Labour.0 -
You don't think its a big story that the guy allegedly plotting with the EDL? Lets see what he actually said, but the front page is pretty clear what MoS is alleging.bigjohnowls said:
Surprised to see MOS running that so close to GE 2015.
Don't think its a big story if I am honest0 -
Dudley NorthPulpstar said:More to the point which seat is this Afnal Amin in ?
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Think you will find that an increase in the personal allowance is an income tax cut.Purseybear said:
Freeze on fuel duty when raw prices have tumbled. FTB help? 3k or whatever. Great but still unaffordable. Personal allowances yeah well great but not exactly huge was it? As for beer: 1p off a pint. Big deal.steve_garner said:
Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.
It was a weird budget: fiddling around with little bits n' pieces like church roofs and Agincourt [wtf?]. Income tax cut was what was screaming out, a bit of pay back for the hard times.
Anyway that's just me. It left me feeling cold & thinking of voting Labour.0 -
Whatever else it will be a rather large stick that UKIP can club the Tories with when the allegations about UKIP candidates are made.bigjohnowls said:Don't think its a big story if I am honest
Very surprised to see MoS running it at a time like this, although I get the impression that they are a little more sympathetic to UKIP than the Daily version.0 -
I think it will, because it's so unusual and because there is a general election campaign.bigjohnowls said:
No it won'tSpeedy said:
My God.FrancisUrquhart said:I some how think this might make the BBC tomorrow...I have a feeling the BBC might be less "oh its only the Daily Mail" about it.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579398923602784256
That will swipe the UKIP scandals and the Tory Budget surely out of the news.
When was the last time a Tory Asian candidate tried to fix an election with the EDL 50 days to polling day?0 -
I'm most on tories markets wise but me personally? Centrist. Liked the coalition, liked what they did. Now i think they should've given back a bit to people. it really disappointed me the budget.steve_garner said:
Yeah ok. Somehow I think you're not quite what you seem.Purseybear said:
Freeze on fuel duty when raw prices have tumbled. FTB help? 3k or whatever. Great but still unaffordable. Personal allowances yeah well great but not exactly huge was it? As for beer: 1p off a pint. Big deal.steve_garner said:
Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.
It was a weird budget: fiddling around with little bits n' pieces like church roofs and Agincourt [wtf?]. Income tax cut was what was screaming out, a bit of pay back for the hard times.
Anyway that's just me. It left me feeling cold & thinking of voting Labour.0 -
Thornbridge Jaipur. Or Oakham ales Scarlet Macaw.RepublicanTory said:
Whitstable Bay Gold is excellent (also a Sheps beer)nigel4england said:
Spitfire is my current favourite, closely followed by Bombardier, will happily settle for a Directors though!foxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!
Also liking Aspells cider, not convinced it likes me though.
Black Sheep Gold is also a fine drop.
Both are "Golden" beers but not as sweet as the summer/ autumn versions often are-a proper session beer
Unusually both are almost as good bottled as on draft.
Well worth seeking out on draft but the bottled versions are to be found in Waitrose.
Best to wear sandals while drowning your LD sorrows.0 -
Not a huge fan of the Golden beers but I do like the regular Black Sheep.RepublicanTory said:
Whitstable Bay Gold is excellent (also a Sheps beer)nigel4england said:
Spitfire is my current favourite, closely followed by Bombardier, will happily settle for a Directors though!foxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!
Also liking Aspells cider, not convinced it likes me though.
Black Sheep Gold is also a fine drop.
Both are "Golden" beers but not as sweet as the summer/ autumn versions often are-a proper session beer
Unusually both are almost as good bottled as on draft.0 -
Well, the outcome of this election remains utterly up in the air.0
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JackW said:
Yes.GeoffM said:I see that Priti Patel is out and about in Broxtowe on Thursday.
Does Jack's ARSE still have it as TCTC?
Oi, the colonies have standards too!foxinsoxuk said:
Tub thumping nationalism has its place in sport and war, but I will pass over that.isam said:
Ha yes I can't have tub thumping nationalism or real ale, so maybe!!foxinsoxuk said:
Coming after the isam fridge contents scandal, I sense your inner LD breaking out of its chains!isam said:One decent thing to come of the Muslim terrorist murders in Paris is that those on here that used to call French people 'frogs' have learned their lesson
Maybe an atrocity in Ireland will see the end of 'bog trotter'?
Was having dinner w my business partner earlier in the month in a Persian restaurant.. He is Dutch, his gf Iranian, and we talked politics and immigration. She's having trouble with getting a visa
He was quite surprised really that I am a kipper but don't think British is best or England is better than anywhere else etc.. I actually get quite embarrassed when people talk that shite, they must be putting it on
Course I love England, I am English, like you love your family. Doesn't mean we are the best though
What scandalises me is the real ale issue!
Do not confess to me that you are a partaker of the ghastly eurofizz when there is a well kept pint of Courage Directors on handpump.
Surely we have grounds for deportation to the colonies right there!0 -
kind of. Would like to have seen the basic rate cut. Margaret Thatcher would've done it.nigel4england said:
Think you will find that an increase in the personal allowance is an income tax cut.Purseybear said:
Freeze on fuel duty when raw prices have tumbled. FTB help? 3k or whatever. Great but still unaffordable. Personal allowances yeah well great but not exactly huge was it? As for beer: 1p off a pint. Big deal.steve_garner said:
Which bit of increased personal allowances, freeze on fuel duty, reduced taxation on booze and savings and help for FTB's does not get ordinary people?Purseybear said:
I may be putting my X on Labour.steve_garner said:
So presumably you'll be putting your money on Labour then?Purseybear said:Serius value on Labour in the markets? I reckon so.
I felt the budget was me being lectured at by someone who didn't really get ordinary people.
It was a weird budget: fiddling around with little bits n' pieces like church roofs and Agincourt [wtf?]. Income tax cut was what was screaming out, a bit of pay back for the hard times.
Anyway that's just me. It left me feeling cold & thinking of voting Labour.
anyhow judging by the polls i evidently aren't alone thinking the budget was a bit crap.0 -
Not sure why PB Tories think the additional changes to personal allowances is a game changer.
In 2016/7 and 2017/18 its a 1.9% and 1.8% respectively uprating.
Worth 77p a week in both cases £80 over the 2 years0 -
Just flicked on the News...and it is noticeable that Ed is there giving the big I Am about the debates, in full on GE campaign mode...where is Dave with only a few weeks to go....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/21/18/26DCAFC900000578-0-image-m-5_1426962454344.jpg
I actually think it is good that Cameron does have days where he isn't on full PM mode, just like I thought it was very sensible that Blair took fairly regular breaks...otherwise you end up like Brown...but with a few weeks to go to a GE, you thought you might just be foot to the floor trying to grab every vote you can.0 -
Spot on. it wasn't a game changer. Like you say almost nothing.bigjohnowls said:Not sure why PB Tories think the additional changes to personal allowances is a game changer.
In 2016/7 and 2017/18 its a 1.9% and 1.8% respectively uprating.
Worth 77p a week in both cases £80 over the 2 years
don't think thatcher would've made the same mistakes but then she came from humble stock.0 -
So, as it stands
Tory leads: Comres (phone), ICM (phone), Ashcroft (phone), TNS (online), Opinium (online)
Lab leads: Populus (online) yougov (online), Survation (online), Comres (online),Ipsos-Mori (phone)
Toss a coin.0 -
Much better than the fiscal drag that Brown imposed through stealth.bigjohnowls said:Not sure why PB Tories think the additional changes to personal allowances is a game changer.
In 2016/7 and 2017/18 its a 1.9% and 1.8% respectively uprating.
Worth 77p a week in both cases £80 over the 2 years0
