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Sky are offering mega millions to all three of them to bring the formula to Sky 1. Must be a tempting offer.0
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Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.0 -
Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.0 -
Re. Clarkson:
I'm conflicted over this. On one hand, the 'crime' that got him his final warning seemed little more than a pathetic put-up job. On the other, attempting to punch a colleague is wrong, but I'm not sure a suspension is valid (the devil will be in the details of what happened, and we only have one side of the story).
However: many of us have complained in the past over the BBC's somewhat lax attitude towards what could be called 'talent': from before Saville, there appeared to have been a rather sinister attitude about what talent could get away with. First with Carol Thatcher, and now with Clarkson, we have had firm, immediate action for incidents that occurred off-air.
I wait for baited breath for the same to happen to some of the left-wing 'talent'. Hopefully such a brave new attitude on the BBC's part would not be politically biased ...0 -
I've read Spiked! for years, it's an excellent mag. I even paid for events chaired by them. Rather too many black polo shirts for my taste, but provocative stuff.Richard_Tyndall said:
Very good article indeed. I do agree that I find myself wishing the left had more of the beliefs of 'Spiked' rather than the apparently homogenizing ideas that seem to dominate at the moment.SouthamObserver said:This is a very good article:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/mainstream-left-silencing-sympathetic-voices0 -
Indeed Warner's rants are of the highest quality. I always was give them a read if I spot them.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.0 -
Will Farage be flying in the plane? If so it's safer than landing.TGOHF said:Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.0 -
Will he also leaflet drop his tour dates from the air while he is doing it?TGOHF said:Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.0 -
O/T GBP now at Euro 1.4224!0
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Quite. I assume they chose them to control them by proxy - like Mrs Roosevelt.Cyclefree said:
Personally I feel that I know more about Cherie's sex life than is decent.Patrick said:
Some leaders' wives may be of passing electoral benefit to their husbands - depending on how MILFy they are. (PC lefties can avert their gaze now). I'd gently suggest that Cherie and Justine add precisely nothing to their men's allure whereas Samantha and Miriam are a bit phwoar and at least don't detract. As someone once quipped of Clinton: 'At least we can know he is sexually competent'. !!!TheWatcher said:
It shows weakness. Imagine Putin or any other leader wheeling out their wives or mummies to fight their corner for them.Alanbrooke said:The Justine stunt was pure desperation
However, in the case of Sam, Miriam and Justine and even Sarah Brown, the question for me is why they settled for such mediocre looking and behaving men when they could have done so much better for themselves.0 -
Everyone seems to be assuming Clarkson hit this chap. All the reports claim he 'threw a punch at' however, and did not actually hit the guy. Clarkson denies outright hitting him. Saw one report that it was a mock punch to express his frustration. Suggest all 'he must be be sacked now' comments hang fire pending some actual facts.0
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I still can't get over how nobody blinked an eye when Adrian "Golly" Chiles wasn't just insensitive to a Jewish guy who had suffered Anti-Semitic abuse, he actually asked if it was his fault for doing so and that it was well only a few minutes of it.JosiasJessop said:Re. Clarkson:
I'm conflicted over this. On one hand, the 'crime' that got him his final warning seemed little more than a pathetic put-up job. On the other, attempting to punch a colleague is wrong, but I'm not sure a suspension is valid (the devil will be in the details of what happened, and we only have one side of the story).
However: many of us have complained in the past over the BBC's somewhat lax attitude towards what could be called 'talent': from before Saville, there appeared to have been a rather sinister attitude about what talent could get away with. First with Carol Thatcher, and now with Clarkson, we have had firm, immediate action for incidents that occurred off-air.
I wait for baited breath for the same to happen to some of the left-wing 'talent'. Hopefully such a brave new attitude on the BBC's part would not be politically biased ...0 -
A daughter's desperate plea
Em Clarkson @EmClarkson1- Oh God, BBC please take him back... He's started cooking...
10:26 PM - 10 Mar 2015
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At lot of more sensible countries just don't let minors out of the country without explicit parental permission, in the form of a signed document carried in the passport. I know the liberal establishment doesn't really approve of parental responsibility, and making people stand up to their responsibilities as parents, but there is a limit to this sort of idiocy.FrancisUrquhart said:
Again, other than the odd person in the media, can't journo used google. Took me 2 mins to find info out this guy, which I noted yesterday, without any of the contacts and resources most papers have to look into individuals.TGOHF said:
And all this BS about the letter.....The police and school at that stage had no reason to think that these girls were thinking of running off, I mean the parents say they were totally normal teenagers and no signs of being radicalized, so why would you not think that giving them a letter saying could you get your parents permission (which they have to) so we can just ask you about your friend so we can help find her would be an issue.
This lawyer actually claimed that this letter might have triggered them going, which is like me saying I got a letter from the plod saying somebody has been speeding in my car, can you confirm who was driving and it was my other half, so that caused me to go out and drive up and down the motorway at 150mph.
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Most stupid decision of the day, perhaps:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-31832392
A woman has won the right to some money from her ex-husband. Who became a millionaire after they divorced.0 -
I can understand your frustration.DavidL said:
I find this a tricky one. On the one hand smug Banker types sitting there espousing corporate mea culpas for which no one should bear personal responsibility drives me a lot closer to violence than most things. If we can't lock them up for what they did to this country having someone shouting abuse at them is at least something.CarlottaVance said:Margaret Hodge may be wise to be careful castigating others for what they didn't know:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/with-a-past-like-hers-margaret-hodge-might-show-a-bit-more-humility-10098871.html
With a past like hers, Margaret Hodge might show a bit more humility
In the Eighties Hodge was aware of previous child sex abuse in the care homes for which she was responsible, and did nothing about it
OTOH as even the Indy points out Margaret Hodge is perhaps not best placed to do the shouting.
But consider this: not one MP whistleblew on expenses. Hodge did nothing over child abuse in Islington. Given that experience, thoughtful MPs would realise that ranting and raving is not going to get the sort of deeply embedded cultural changes within banks and other institutions that is needed if we are to make a start on ensuring that something like this does not happen again - or not on this scale.
Understanding why they did not whistleblow, how difficult it is to run large organisations, what responsibility at the top and leadership really means should lead to more sensible and thoughtful criticisms and changes. Very few people whistleblow. And the reason they don't is not about procedures and processes. And it's not even about the fear of retaliation, though that can play a part. It's because putting yourself outside a group, on the margin is hard and difficult and goes against the grain. Most people do not see themselves as heroes. We value loyalty and teamwork and then we say that you must rat on your colleagues. This is not easy. No-one likes a snitch. So trying to get people to understand that not speaking up is misplaced loyalty, that speaking up is the right thing to do is hard and takes understanding and psychological insight.
Vainglorious grandstanding by self-righteous egomaniacs who see the motes in others' eyes but not the beam in their own is absolutely the wrong way to get the change we need. There will be some useless laws which will achieve nothing and have unintended consequences. A lot of shiny new procedures will be written. There will be little or no understanding. And in 5-7 years we will all be wringing our hands again when similar scandals erupt again.
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Mr. Urquhart, that was despicable indeed. Chiles is a disgrace.0
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Did you ever read his ST article about people who keep awards in the downstairs bog so they could pretend to be modest but were really showing off?
It's hilarious and one of my all time favourites. Do look it up.SimonStClare said:A daughter's desperate plea
Em Clarkson @EmClarkson1- Oh God, BBC please take him back... He's started cooking...
10:26 PM - 10 Mar 20150 -
It sounds a bit Pride and Prejudice, regarding marriage as an opportunity for women to "do well for themselves".Cyclefree said:
Personally I feel that I know more about Cherie's sex life than is decent.Patrick said:
Some leaders' wives may be of passing electoral benefit to their husbands - depending on how MILFy they are. (PC lefties can avert their gaze now). I'd gently suggest that Cherie and Justine add precisely nothing to their men's allure whereas Samantha and Miriam are a bit phwoar and at least don't detract. As someone once quipped of Clinton: 'At least we can know he is sexually competent'. !!!TheWatcher said:
It shows weakness. Imagine Putin or any other leader wheeling out their wives or mummies to fight their corner for them.Alanbrooke said:The Justine stunt was pure desperation
However, in the case of Sam, Miriam and Justine and even Sarah Brown, the question for me is why they settled for such mediocre looking and behaving men when they could have done so much better for themselves.
Also a bit spooked not to see Kirsten in your list.0 -
Gosh, I wonder what might have happened in Sierra Leone in the last year to disrupt previous plans?Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.0 -
When is a "clean break" settlement not a clean break settlement ?Morris_Dancer said:Most stupid decision of the day, perhaps:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-31832392
A woman has won the right to some money from her ex-husband. Who became a millionaire after they divorced.
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That reminds of the footballer's wife who got a settlement based on his future earnings. Insane.Morris_Dancer said:
Most stupid decision of the day, perhaps:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-31832392
A woman has won the right to some money from her ex-husband. Who became a millionaire after they divorced.0 -
My brother had a *clean break* divorce and then his ex-wife came after him. He's only a teacher. He paid her £10k and gave her their house 20 yrs ago and she still attempted to get more years later.
I hate my brother but that gained some sympathy from me.Indigo said:
When is a "clean break" settlement not a clean break settlement ?Morris_Dancer said:Most stupid decision of the day, perhaps:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-31832392
A woman has won the right to some money from her ex-husband. Who became a millionaire after they divorced.0 -
Miss Plato, was that somebody Parlour? [Football's not my area of interest].
It's indefensible.
Mr. Indigo, not sure, but the court seems to think it's more than 10 years...0 -
God, the Euro is MASSIVE!Financier said:O/T GBP now at Euro 1.4224!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0uE1qi2A680 -
That's the one - I'd forgotten his name.
The footballer's wife Karen Parlour today won a landmark court ruling that he must pay her more than a third of his future income in the wake of their divorce.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-6166049.html
The mother-of-three, whose marriage to £1.2 million-a-year Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour was dissolved in 2002, was told by the Court of Appeal today [two years later] that her award of £250,000 a year personal maintenance would be increased to £406,500, to be reviewed after four years.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, was that somebody Parlour? [Football's not my area of interest].
It's indefensible.
Mr. Indigo, not sure, but the court seems to think it's more than 10 years...0 -
From what I have read a court approved clean break settlement is exactly to prevent those sort of occurrences, what's the catch ?Plato said:My brother had a *clean break* divorce and then his ex-wife came after him. He's only a teacher. He paid her £10k and gave her their house 20 yrs ago and she still attempted to get more years later.
I hate my brother but that gained some sympathy from me.Indigo said:
When is a "clean break" settlement not a clean break settlement ?Morris_Dancer said:Most stupid decision of the day, perhaps:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-31832392
A woman has won the right to some money from her ex-husband. Who became a millionaire after they divorced.0 -
The bit about defence - typical kipper rant with no facts or truth.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.
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perdix said:
The bit about defence - typical kipper rant with no facts or truth.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.Yet Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, while claiming on the Andrew Marr Show that Dave did not want to “preside over any further cuts in our Armed Forces”, refused ten times to guarantee there will not be further reductions in military spending. He claimed a final decision would not be made until after the general election.
and your evidence that this is fantasy is.... ?0 -
Party leaders challenged to take part in Telegraph's digital debate
David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Nigel Farage and Natalie Bennett from the Greens invited to a filmed debate on March 26 or 27
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/debates/11462718/Party-leaders-challenged-to-take-part-in-Telegraphs-digital-debate.html
Will Dave be in the internet black hole of Cornwall during these two days?0 -
Ms Free,Cyclefree said:
Personally I feel that I know more about Cherie's sex life than is decent.Patrick said:
Some leaders' wives may be of passing electoral benefit to their husbands - depending on how MILFy they are. (PC lefties can avert their gaze now). I'd gently suggest that Cherie and Justine add precisely nothing to their men's allure whereas Samantha and Miriam are a bit phwoar and at least don't detract. As someone once quipped of Clinton: 'At least we can know he is sexually competent'. !!!TheWatcher said:
It shows weakness. Imagine Putin or any other leader wheeling out their wives or mummies to fight their corner for them.Alanbrooke said:The Justine stunt was pure desperation
However, in the case of Sam, Miriam and Justine and even Sarah Brown, the question for me is why they settled for such mediocre looking and behaving men when they could have done so much better for themselves.
only if you are shallow enough to think that women should go for 'looks' and behaviour'... ;-)
(Actually, isn't mediocre behaviour a good thing?)
They're men who've also made it to the top, or near the top, of their professions. That immediately puts them above me in many ways, and I'm handsome and extremely un-mediocrely behaved. ;-)
As I've mentioned before, I had a friend at university who was, to say the least, ugly. He was a great bloke, but God had endowed him with a face and body that would have made Quasimodo feel queasy. Yet from the first year he was going out with a lady who was stunningly beautiful. In our youth we all wondered why. Last I heard they are still together and very happy. The answer to our youthful ponderings is easy: they were in love, and their characters melded perfectly.
(As an aside, I saw your reply to my reply last night re. islamaphobia. I question one or two of your points, but we've both put our positions well (at least you have), so perhaps its best to leave it. Until next time. ;-) )0 -
Hillary Clinton deepened the suspicions of her critics on Tuesday when she said that the private server she kept in her home to store her email "contains personal communications from my husband and me".
There is only one problem with that: just this week a spokesman for Bill Clinton said the former president does not use email at all.
"The former president, who does regularly use Twitter, has sent a grand total of two emails during his entire life, both as president," Matt McKenna, the spokesman, told the Wall Street Journal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/11463113/Hillary-Clinton-I-sent-personal-emails-to-my-husband.-Bill-I-dont-use-email.html
The stink is getting unbearable.
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Going for Beast of Burden in the 1st, can anyone figure out the Queen Mother though ?0
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independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-6166049.htmlPlato said:That's the one - I'd forgotten his name.
The footballer's wife Karen Parlour today won a landmark court ruling that he must pay her more than a third of his future income in the wake of their divorce.
The mother-of-three, whose marriage to £1.2 million-a-year Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour was dissolved in 2002, was told by the Court of Appeal today [two years later] that her award of £250,000 a year personal maintenance would be increased to £406,500, to be reviewed after four years.
That appears in keeping with what I have read, if you don't agree a clean break and are instead paying maintenance on a regular basis, the way is open for your ex to go to court and challenge the settlement as insufficient based on your new and improved earnings.
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We have had 300 years of it working the other way round or did you miss that , a few years turnaround does not seem out of placePhilip_Thompson said:
Lets say that there's a Tory English majority/plurality, but a Labour & SNP coalition/Supply and confidence ends up writing the English laws using a UK majority/plurality. Would that be acceptable to you?malcolmg said:
How could 52 MP's be ruling the UK you stupid dumpling. The large party as per Tories now make all the decisions and their poodles the Libdems get a few crumbs thrown to keep them in place. You head is addled.CarlottaVance said:
Imagine the SNP are in government without a single English, Welsh or Irish MP. The democratic deficit of 92% of the people of the UK being ruled by a regional (8% UK) party would be huge.......Alistair said:Imagine if the Tories win the election without a single Scottish MP. The democratic deficit of the people of Scotland being ruled by a regional party would be huge. An affront to the very notion of democracy © The English Press
Lets not forget Labour have form on this introducing Top Up Fees to England which was rejected by English-only MPs but Scottish MPs (knowing that there are no Scottish fees) forced it through.
That's the problem with Labour trying mess with the Constitution to their advantage. The West Lothian Question was always an issue, its just more obvious when its the SNP voting through English laws against an English opposition majority.0 -
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From an anthropological perspective, that's a very unusual pairing. Like swans having mistresses.
I know of a couple that sound very similar - they are the exception that proves the rule.
We pick mates who are similarly attractive, it's just basic evolution.JosiasJessop said:
Ms Free,Cyclefree said:
Personally I feel that I know more about Cherie's sex life than is decent.Patrick said:
Some leaders' wives may be of passing electoral benefit to their husbands - depending on how MILFy they are. (PC lefties can avert their gaze now). I'd gently suggest that Cherie and Justine add precisely nothing to their men's allure whereas Samantha and Miriam are a bit phwoar and at least don't detract. As someone once quipped of Clinton: 'At least we can know he is sexually competent'. !!!TheWatcher said:
It shows weakness. Imagine Putin or any other leader wheeling out their wives or mummies to fight their corner for them.Alanbrooke said:The Justine stunt was pure desperation
However, in the case of Sam, Miriam and Justine and even Sarah Brown, the question for me is why they settled for such mediocre looking and behaving men when they could have done so much better for themselves.
only if you are shallow enough to think that women should go for 'looks' and behaviour'... ;-)
(Actually, isn't mediocre behaviour a good thing?)
They're men who've also made it to the top, or near the top, of their professions. That immediately puts them above me in many ways, and I'm handsome and extremely un-mediocrely behaved. ;-)
As I've mentioned before, I had a friend at university who was, to say the least, ugly. He was a great bloke, but God had endowed him with a face and body that would have made Quasimodo feel queasy. Yet from the first year he was going out with a lady who was stunningly beautiful. In our youth we all wondered why. Last I heard they are still together and very happy. The answer to our youthful ponderings is easy: they were in love, and their characters melded perfectly.
(As an aside, I saw your reply to my reply last night re. islamaphobia. I question one or two of your points, but we've both put our positions well (at least you have), so perhaps its best to leave it. Until next time. ;-) )0 -
MD, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Roger, a very good point on gender.
Mr. G, I watch Top Gear.0 -
perdix said:
The bit about defence - typical kipper rant with no facts or truth.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.
So are the Tories going to commit to spending 2% of GDP in the next government or are they going to forsake their NATO agreement? We have been told time and again that international agreements are sacrosanct in the view of the Tories. So will they live up to it or not?perdix said:
The bit about defence - typical kipper rant with no facts or truth.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle wha.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.0 -
I see the BBC has finally run an investigation into child abuse and trafficking.JosiasJessop said:Re. Clarkson:
I'm conflicted over this. On one hand, the 'crime' that got him his final warning seemed little more than a pathetic put-up job. On the other, attempting to punch a colleague is wrong, but I'm not sure a suspension is valid (the devil will be in the details of what happened, and we only have one side of the story).
However: many of us have complained in the past over the BBC's somewhat lax attitude towards what could be called 'talent': from before Saville, there appeared to have been a rather sinister attitude about what talent could get away with. First with Carol Thatcher, and now with Clarkson, we have had firm, immediate action for incidents that occurred off-air.
I wait for baited breath for the same to happen to some of the left-wing 'talent'. Hopefully such a brave new attitude on the BBC's part would not be politically biased ...
In China.0 -
Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree0
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Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.JosiasJessop said:Re. Clarkson:
I'm conflicted over this. On one hand, the 'crime' that got him his final warning seemed little more than a pathetic put-up job. On the other, attempting to punch a colleague is wrong, but I'm not sure a suspension is valid (the devil will be in the details of what happened, and we only have one side of the story).
However: many of us have complained in the past over the BBC's somewhat lax attitude towards what could be called 'talent': from before Saville, there appeared to have been a rather sinister attitude about what talent could get away with. First with Carol Thatcher, and now with Clarkson, we have had firm, immediate action for incidents that occurred off-air.
I wait for baited breath for the same to happen to some of the left-wing 'talent'. Hopefully such a brave new attitude on the BBC's part would not be politically biased ...
Personally I would have liked to see bank executives summarily dismissed during the banking crisis, and newspaper executives likewise over phone hacking. No notice, no pay in lieu of notice, no compensation for loss of office, no ex gratia payments. It would show it was being taken seriously.
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With Jeremy Clarkson suspended, here's my vision for an eco-feminist Top Gear
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-eco-feminist-top-gear
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Actually, I think there is a three way split, with the majority waiting to know the whole story before condemning or condoning.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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Ye I backed him last year, Skybet have gone 5.0 on him right now, 1/4 odds the place which compares favourably with Betfair (4.5/1.72).malcolmg said:
Tough race but Sire De Grugy looked really good in recent win , not great race but giving lumps of weight and won by a mile after superb jumpingPulpstar said:Going for Beast of Burden in the 1st, can anyone figure out the Queen Mother though ?
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Roger said:
Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
I am not saying he shouldn't be sacked, I am just saying he wont care, he has huge loads of royalties he will continue to receive from BBC Worldwide, and a long list of other content companies hanging on the phone waving their chequebooks at him, hardly a salutary lesson. Cost to the BBC $300m, cost the Clarkson $0, not sure who loses.JohnLilburne said:Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.
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What's the relevance of that? Has Farage ever flown a plane before?logical_song said:
Will Farage be flying in the plane? If so it's safer than landing.TGOHF said:Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.0 -
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That appears in keeping with what I have read, if you don't agree a clean break and are instead paying maintenance on a regular basis, the way is open for your ex to go to court and challenge the settlement as insufficient based on your new and improved earnings.Indigo said:
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-6166049.htmlPlato said:That's the one - I'd forgotten his name.
The footballer's wife Karen Parlour today won a landmark court ruling that he must pay her more than a third of his future income in the wake of their divorce.
The mother-of-three, whose marriage to £1.2 million-a-year Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour was dissolved in 2002, was told by the Court of Appeal today [two years later] that her award of £250,000 a year personal maintenance would be increased to £406,500, to be reviewed after four years.
I have always found it mystifying how these huge divorce grants are made. It is only right that should one parent give up a career to provide for the family that they should be recompensed for lost potential earnings. But it is hard to imagine Karen Parlour lost out on £406,500 a year by marrying Ray and staying at home. Such awards seem to serve mainly to discourage high earners from marriage, which is a loss to society as a whole.0 -
I think America might be in NATO, and we might have made commitments to NATO on military spending.A_Man_Called_Horse said:What darn business is it of Breitbart.com -- an American site founded by a far-right American so purple with rage he died of a heart attack in his mid-40s -- how big the British army is?!
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Bit of an insular view comrade. Should British newspapers only discuss what happens here and ignore the rest of the world?A_Man_Called_Horse said:What darn business is it of Breitbart.com -- an American site founded by a far-right American so purple with rage he died of a heart attack in his mid-40s -- how big the British army is?!
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The line about postponing until after elections struck a chord with me. It was just Monday when Philip Hammond was arguing that new powers for the security services would be decided just after the general election. Whatever your views on whether such additional powers are required or not, we should all be able to agree that attempting to avoid the voters engaging on such issues turns voters off the whole system.Indigo said:
Its a good rant, I particularly like the following article of truthHengists_Gift said:Fighting talk from Gerald Warner:
When Our Army May be Cut to 50,000, The Smell of Treason is Becoming Offensive
.........For centuries traitors were hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn who had done less material damage to this country than politicians today. Undermining the defence of the realm is treason. The stench of it is emanating from every aperture in the Palace of Westminster.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/11/when-our-army-may-be-cut-to-50000-the-smell-of-treason-is-becoming-offensive/
The Vichy Tories don’t want to tell the electorate they intend to dismantle what little remains of this nation’s defences and risk losing votes. All major policy decisions that are monstrously opposed to the national interest are nowadays postponed until after the voters have been conned. The government then claims a “mandate” for whatever it wants to do, often by consensus of all three legacy parties, and democracy is further subverted.
This was a bit of an eye opener as well, WTF are they doing with the money ?
A Department for International Development programme that was supposed to create 29,000 jobs in Sierra Leone by this year has created just 16.0 -
Zoe Williams is such an urban liberal victim. I love the bit where she says Like In Star Trek. How twee.FrancisUrquhart said:With Jeremy Clarkson suspended, here's my vision for an eco-feminist Top Gear
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-eco-feminist-top-gear
I can't wait....
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He has some previous with light aircraft...isam said:
What's the relevance of that? Has Farage ever flown a plane before?logical_song said:
Will Farage be flying in the plane? If so it's safer than landing.TGOHF said:Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=farage+plane+crash&biw=1876&bih=982&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=aSUAVeLGC8yxUZCFg6gI&ved=0CCAQsAQ&dpr=0.90 -
I have always found it mystifying how these huge divorce grants are made. It is only right that should one parent give up a career to provide for the family that they should be recompensed for lost potential earnings. But it is hard to imagine Karen Parlour lost out on £406,500 a year by marrying Ray and staying at home. Such awards seem to serve mainly to discourage high earners from marriage, which is a loss to society as a whole.JEO said:
That appears in keeping with what I have read, if you don't agree a clean break and are instead paying maintenance on a regular basis, the way is open for your ex to go to court and challenge the settlement as insufficient based on your new and improved earnings.Indigo said:
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-6166049.htmlPlato said:That's the one - I'd forgotten his name.
The footballer's wife Karen Parlour today won a landmark court ruling that he must pay her more than a third of his future income in the wake of their divorce.
The mother-of-three, whose marriage to £1.2 million-a-year Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour was dissolved in 2002, was told by the Court of Appeal today [two years later] that her award of £250,000 a year personal maintenance would be increased to £406,500, to be reviewed after four years.
Indeed. At least that idiocy is starting to fade. The appeal court issued a pretty unsympathetic judgement on the subject a week or so ago.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11429864/Divorced-wife-told-to-get-a-job-and-stop-living-off-her-ex.htmlA family judge's reaction was to respond to Mrs Wright, of Wickhambrook, Newmarket, with "harsh words."
The mother was told to "just get on with it" and get a job, like "vast numbers of other women with children."
Lord Justice Pitchford, sitting at the Court of Appeal, has now rejected her challenge to the decision to slash her future maintenance.0 -
On that basis, investment banks shouldn't fire employees guilty of - say - insider trading, if they are profitable members of the firm.Indigo said:Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
I am not saying he shouldn't be sacked, I am just saying he wont care, he has huge loads of royalties he will continue to receive from BBC Worldwide, and a long list of other content companies hanging on the phone waving their chequebooks at him, hardly a salutary lesson. Cost to the BBC $300m, cost the Clarkson $0, not sure who loses.JohnLilburne said:Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.
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Pulpstar's Day 2 plays:
Beast of Burden 0.5 pts E/W (Raceclear tip) @ 12-1
Don Poli 1 pt Win @ 7-4; Favourable notes from Peter the Punter
Sire De Grugy (Malcy G recommendation) 1 Pt EW @ 4-1.0 -
I think this should be put to the test and you should do an ad with him Roger.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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Interesting. Do you have a link to any report that he 'smacked an underling in the mouth'? Everyone else seems to think a punch was merely thrown, without connecting.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
It's hardly a 'Prescott', and many on the Left loved that.
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When I got divorced, I didn't make any claim on my husband's business or income [in millions]. We carved up what we'd bought and I paid him over £100k to keep our house.
I've a really strong view about this whole subject. I may have influenced him to become very successful, but he did it. I'd feel grubby trying to extract £££ from his future life.
He lent me £10k yrs after when I needed it, and I repaid him when he needed it back to fix a problem. That's what I consider fair and respectful between two people. We're not married, but we're still together for life.
I have always found it mystifying how these huge divorce grants are made. It is only right that should one parent give up a career to provide for the family that they should be recompensed for lost potential earnings. But it is hard to imagine Karen Parlour lost out on £406,500 a year by marrying Ray and staying at home. Such awards seem to serve mainly to discourage high earners from marriage, which is a loss to society as a whole.JEO said:
That appears in keeping with what I have read, if you don't agree a clean break and are instead paying maintenance on a regular basis, the way is open for your ex to go to court and challenge the settlement as insufficient based on your new and improved earnings.Indigo said:
independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/footballers-wife-wins-landmark-divorce-deal-6166049.htmlPlato said:That's the one - I'd forgotten his name.
The footballer's wife Karen Parlour today won a landmark court ruling that he must pay her more than a third of his future income in the wake of their divorce.
The mother-of-three, whose marriage to £1.2 million-a-year Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour was dissolved in 2002, was told by the Court of Appeal today [two years later] that her award of £250,000 a year personal maintenance would be increased to £406,500, to be reviewed after four years.
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1) Breitbart London is a British site with British writersA_Man_Called_Horse said:What darn business is it of Breitbart.com -- an American site founded by a far-right American so purple with rage he died of a heart attack in his mid-40s -- how big the British army is?!
2) Gerald Warner Is a Scot and so his views are just as relevant as any other British writer
3) The US is our primary ally in defence and therefore would be entitled to take a view on such matters anyway.
4) As to the former owner unless you believe in the after life clearly he had absolutely nothing to do with and took no view on this article.
PS The Indy and Evening Standard are owned by a former senior member of the KGB. Should we equally disregard everything those papers say because of their ownership?0 -
You only tend to hear about the traders that made supernormal losses being hung out to dry though, there simply must be some that have made supernormal profits and acted well outside their remit.rcs1000 said:
On that basis, investment banks shouldn't fire employees guilty of - say - insider trading, if they are profitable members of the firm.Indigo said:Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
I am not saying he shouldn't be sacked, I am just saying he wont care, he has huge loads of royalties he will continue to receive from BBC Worldwide, and a long list of other content companies hanging on the phone waving their chequebooks at him, hardly a salutary lesson. Cost to the BBC $300m, cost the Clarkson $0, not sure who loses.JohnLilburne said:Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.
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I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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Small Is Beautiful!JohnO said:
I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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Ha yeah I know butGadfly said:
He has some previous with light aircraft...isam said:
What's the relevance of that? Has Farage ever flown a plane before?logical_song said:
Will Farage be flying in the plane? If so it's safer than landing.TGOHF said:Matthew Moore @mattmoorek 2m2 minutes ago
FUKP candidate @almurray will parachute into South Thanet on Friday to launch his bid to win the seat. With an actual parachute.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=farage+plane+crash&biw=1876&bih=982&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=aSUAVeLGC8yxUZCFg6gI&ved=0CCAQsAQ&dpr=0.9
(A) is it really a joking matter someone almost dying in a plane crash, even if they do want to leave the EU
(B) he wasn't the pilot so @logical_song attempt at humour was based on a falsehood as well as being unfunny and in bad taste
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Talented people tend to stay with their existing companies and not earn their full potential for one of two reasons, sloth or loyalty. If they are sacked both those are bypassed.rcs1000 said:
On that basis, investment banks shouldn't fire employees guilty of - say - insider trading, if they are profitable members of the firm.Indigo said:Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
I am not saying he shouldn't be sacked, I am just saying he wont care, he has huge loads of royalties he will continue to receive from BBC Worldwide, and a long list of other content companies hanging on the phone waving their chequebooks at him, hardly a salutary lesson. Cost to the BBC $300m, cost the Clarkson $0, not sure who loses.JohnLilburne said:Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.
If you sack that investment bank employee and he walks out the door, across the road and sits down in your competitors office, takes a 20% pay rise, and continues to do the job he did before making his (new) employer lots of money, I am not sure who is being punished.
If you claim he would not be able to do that because of legal or reputation issues, then I would suggest the cases are not comparable, since Clarkson conspicuously has people biting his arm off to sprinkle money over his head.
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I shall return in my next life as a maine coon kitten.Plato said:Small Is Beautiful!
JohnO said:
I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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It is real tough today , I put my horses up earlier , but am just backing 3 of Nicholls today. Though I will need to back Sire De Grugy nowPulpstar said:
Ye I backed him last year, Skybet have gone 5.0 on him right now, 1/4 odds the place which compares favourably with Betfair (4.5/1.72).malcolmg said:
Tough race but Sire De Grugy looked really good in recent win , not great race but giving lumps of weight and won by a mile after superb jumpingPulpstar said:Going for Beast of Burden in the 1st, can anyone figure out the Queen Mother though ?
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Sacking an employee should not be about punishment. It should be about whether the relationship of trust and confidence has irretrievably broken down. Someone else may be able to establish such a relationship but if that employee has by their conduct with you made it impossible to work in a manner consistent with your values, you should either reconsider your values or part company. It's almost always the correct option to part company, unless your values are ill thought-through. Compromising your values is more likely to lead to more damage in the longer term.Indigo said:
Talented people tend to stay with their existing companies and not earn their full potential for one of two reasons, sloth or loyalty. If they are sacked both those are bypassed.rcs1000 said:
On that basis, investment banks shouldn't fire employees guilty of - say - insider trading, if they are profitable members of the firm.Indigo said:Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
I am not saying he shouldn't be sacked, I am just saying he wont care, he has huge loads of royalties he will continue to receive from BBC Worldwide, and a long list of other content companies hanging on the phone waving their chequebooks at him, hardly a salutary lesson. Cost to the BBC $300m, cost the Clarkson $0, not sure who loses.JohnLilburne said:Tw@tting a colleague is gross misconduct, you would normally suspend while carrying out an investigation and, if proved (on a balance of probabilities basis) dismiss summarily. Can't see why Clarkson should be treated any differently to hoi polloi.
If you sack that investment bank employee and he walks out the door, across the road and sits down in your competitors office, takes a 20% pay rise, and continues to do the job he did before making his (new) employer lots of money, I am not sure who is being punished.
If you claim he would not be able to do that because of legal or reputation issues, then I would suggest the cases are not comparable, since Clarkson conspicuously has people biting his arm off to sprinkle money over his head.0 -
This really is a great insight into the mindset of the intractable far right PB Tories - if you are rich and powerful enough you should be able to get away with anything, whilst the plebs must suffer in silence. Basically the foundation stones of fascism.0
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Mr. Wisemann, you naughty little trouser-pulling tinker
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I'm pretty sure Scotland is the only thing keeping the UK afloat.....at least that is what we have been told on here so many times.Financier said:Scotland's public finances have improved according to the latest Scottish government figures, but remain worse than the UK average.
The country's net fiscal balance - or deficit - was £12.4bn in the red in 2013/14, down from £14.3bn in a year.
This includes revenue from the oil and gas industry deemed to be in Scottish waters.
On the same basis, Scotland raised £54bn in taxes in 2013/14, which amounts to £10,100 per person.
That figure is £400 more than the UK average.
But public expenditure in Scotland in the same period was also higher than the UK average - at £66.4bn or 9.2% of total UK spending. Scotland has 8.3% of the UK population.
That amounts to £12,500 per person, £1,200 more than the UK average.
Measuring the deficit as a share of economic output, Scotland performs substantially worse than the UK average.
Scotland's deficit as a share of GDP fell from 9.7% in 2012/13 to 8.1% in 2013/14 but was higher than the United Kingdom average of 5.6%.
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OT More TV stuff - Just watching The Boss with Kelsey Grammer, it's rather good. I don't much like Frasier either as I find it contrived, so this is high praise from me. I detested Unbreakable - Kimmy Schmidt. So many cliches and plot device exposition characters, I can't even begin to list them.
The Fall is another one that I find oddly intriguing, terrible cliches/melodrama, but some of the baddies save the show. SiLK similarly so [I preferred Rupert Pendry-Thingy in Whitechapel]. I watched the remake of Hawaii-Five-O and fell about laughing. It's such total cobblers.0 -
Of course you are, you're a PB Tory .... and you forget your gastronomic inclination for the newly born.JohnO said:
I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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Champagne Fever out !malcolmg said:
It is real tough today , I put my horses up earlier , but am just backing 3 of Nicholls today. Though I will need to back Sire De Grugy nowPulpstar said:
Ye I backed him last year, Skybet have gone 5.0 on him right now, 1/4 odds the place which compares favourably with Betfair (4.5/1.72).malcolmg said:
Tough race but Sire De Grugy looked really good in recent win , not great race but giving lumps of weight and won by a mile after superb jumpingPulpstar said:Going for Beast of Burden in the 1st, can anyone figure out the Queen Mother though ?
So 15 pence rule 4 on my bet now, but I was considering backing him... so could work out OK.0 -
Only in The Grauniad could an out of touch writer, sing the praises of a hybrid BMW that costs over £100,000.FrancisUrquhart said:With Jeremy Clarkson suspended, here's my vision for an eco-feminist Top Gear
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/mar/11/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-eco-feminist-top-gear
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Absolutely. That was never my contention. I was merely suggesting that people of a left leaning persuasion who thought that a person they didn't have much time for, and cordially disliked would be receiving his just deserts might be rather far from the truth. The reality is more likely to be that he takes a similar job for someone else with better compensation and continues to do much as he did before.antifrank said:
Sacking an employee should not be about punishment. It should be about whether the relationship of trust and confidence has irretrievably broken down. Someone else may be able to establish such a relationship but if that employee has by their conduct with you made it impossible to work in a manner consistent with your values, you should either reconsider your values or part company. It's almost always the correct option to part company, unless your values are ill thought-through. Compromising your values is more likely to lead to more damage in the longer term.Indigo said:
Talented people tend to stay with their existing companies and not earn their full potential for one of two reasons, sloth or loyalty. If they are sacked both those are bypassed.rcs1000 said:
On that basis, investment banks shouldn't fire employees guilty of - say - insider trading, if they are profitable members of the firm.
If you sack that investment bank employee and he walks out the door, across the road and sits down in your competitors office, takes a 20% pay rise, and continues to do the job he did before making his (new) employer lots of money, I am not sure who is being punished.
If you claim he would not be able to do that because of legal or reputation issues, then I would suggest the cases are not comparable, since Clarkson conspicuously has people biting his arm off to sprinkle money over his head.0 -
Champagne Fever is a NR.malcolmg said:
Ladbrokes now at 5-2 on SirePulpstar said:Pulpstar's Day 2 plays:
Beast of Burden 0.5 pts E/W (Raceclear tip) @ 12-1
Don Poli 1 pt Win @ 7-4; Favourable notes from Peter the Punter
Sire De Grugy (Malcy G recommendation) 1 Pt EW @ 4-1.
I think he was pulled at 5-1, though I note BoyleSports have him at last price 5-2. #Dodgy0 -
Is it any wonder Labour are doing badly in Scotland, assuming all voters are idiots is not the best strategy.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ten-bad-reasons/0 -
Meanwhile PB Lefties as usual are so wrapped up in their idealism that they fail to distinguish what they would like to happen, and possibly even what should happen with what will actually happen. More critically they over look the likely real world effects of their self righteous but badly thought out actions.JWisemann said:This really is a great insight into the mindset of the intractable far right PB Tories - if you are rich and powerful enough you should be able to get away with anything, whilst the plebs must suffer in silence. Basically the foundation stones of fascism.
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JohnO
"I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short."
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Glad that at least one person has seen the lightRobD said:
I'm pretty sure Scotland is the only thing keeping the UK afloat.....at least that is what we have been told on here so many times.Financier said:Scotland's public finances have improved according to the latest Scottish government figures, but remain worse than the UK average.
The country's net fiscal balance - or deficit - was £12.4bn in the red in 2013/14, down from £14.3bn in a year.
This includes revenue from the oil and gas industry deemed to be in Scottish waters.
On the same basis, Scotland raised £54bn in taxes in 2013/14, which amounts to £10,100 per person.
That figure is £400 more than the UK average.
But public expenditure in Scotland in the same period was also higher than the UK average - at £66.4bn or 9.2% of total UK spending. Scotland has 8.3% of the UK population.
That amounts to £12,500 per person, £1,200 more than the UK average.
Measuring the deficit as a share of economic output, Scotland performs substantially worse than the UK average.
Scotland's deficit as a share of GDP fell from 9.7% in 2012/13 to 8.1% in 2013/14 but was higher than the United Kingdom average of 5.6%.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31834058
It appears James May lives in a lock-up garage :-)
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still at least 3 in with good shoutPulpstar said:
Champagne Fever is a NR.malcolmg said:
Ladbrokes now at 5-2 on SirePulpstar said:Pulpstar's Day 2 plays:
Beast of Burden 0.5 pts E/W (Raceclear tip) @ 12-1
Don Poli 1 pt Win @ 7-4; Favourable notes from Peter the Punter
Sire De Grugy (Malcy G recommendation) 1 Pt EW @ 4-1.
I think he was pulled at 5-1, though I note BoyleSports have him at last price 5-2. #Dodgy0 -
Is this the UK's biggest cat? Meet Ludo the supersized Maine Coon moggy who is THREE TIMES the size of the average puss (and is still growing)
The huge cat already tips the scales at 24.5lbs (11kg) and is 45 inches long
He is only 17 months old and is set to continue growing
Maine Coon cats are known as ‘the gentle giants’ of the cat world
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2988448/Meet-Ludo-supersized-Maine-Coon-moggy-THREE-TIMES-size-average-puss-growing.html#ixzz3U4p19j5p
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on FacebookJohnO said:
I shall return in my next life as a maine coon kitten.Plato said:Small Is Beautiful!
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I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short.Roger said:Well it looks like the thread splits down the middle when it comes to Clarkson. Those on the Right-the followers of Guido-think it's OK to smack an underling in the mouth because he hasn't brought your dinner on time and those on the left plus the nicest of Tories such as JohnO disagree
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A very good critique of flawed soundbitesmalcolmg said:Is it any wonder Labour are doing badly in Scotland, assuming all voters are idiots is not the best strategy.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ten-bad-reasons/0 -
have you ever upset a honey badger ?Roger said:JohnO
"I am not nice. I am nasty, brutish and very VERY short."
You're not VERY short. And anyway who would worry if you're nasty and brutish if you're very short?0 -
"The Indy and Evening Standard are owned by a former senior member of the KGB. Should we equally disregard everything those papers say because of their ownership?"
Never look at the Indy or 'i'. I certainly perceive the editor of the Standard to be an oleaginous toad who's fond of his own face, and wouldn't pick up his paper if it 1) wasn't free, and 2) didn't have the occasional perceptive book and film review, if that helps.0 -
Of course but personally I think Champagne Fever being withdrawn is well worth the 15p.malcolmg said:
still at least 3 in with good shoutPulpstar said:
Champagne Fever is a NR.malcolmg said:
Ladbrokes now at 5-2 on SirePulpstar said:Pulpstar's Day 2 plays:
Beast of Burden 0.5 pts E/W (Raceclear tip) @ 12-1
Don Poli 1 pt Win @ 7-4; Favourable notes from Peter the Punter
Sire De Grugy (Malcy G recommendation) 1 Pt EW @ 4-1.
I think he was pulled at 5-1, though I note BoyleSports have him at last price 5-2. #Dodgy0 -
It always amuses me when left wingers start ranting about such things because most of those poor plebs who 'must suffer in silence' can be found in seats which have voted Labour solidly for generations. Decades of Labour leadership have got them nowhere but there again its part of Labour's makeup that they like to keep their supporters poor and needy.Indigo said:
Meanwhile PB Lefties as usual are so wrapped up in their idealism that they fail to distinguish what they would like to happen, and possibly even what should happen with what will actually happen. More critically they over look the likely real world effects of their self righteous but badly thought out actions.JWisemann said:This really is a great insight into the mindset of the intractable far right PB Tories - if you are rich and powerful enough you should be able to get away with anything, whilst the plebs must suffer in silence. Basically the foundation stones of fascism.
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Kezia Dugdale's recent "performance" on Question Time was very reassuring as an SNP backer. So too was Danny's for that matter, I mean he was good but the angle won't appeal to Scottish liberals I think.malcolmg said:Is it any wonder Labour are doing badly in Scotland, assuming all voters are idiots is not the best strategy.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ten-bad-reasons/
Kezia was just plain dreadful.0 -
Agreed. I will also add that it seems rather stale to me. It's what you would expect from a Labour leaflet and there's nothing particularly eye catching.Big_G_NorthWales said:
A very good critique of flawed soundbitesmalcolmg said:Is it any wonder Labour are doing badly in Scotland, assuming all voters are idiots is not the best strategy.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ten-bad-reasons/0 -
@jwisemann
'This really is a great insight into the mindset of the intractable far right PB Tories - if you are rich and powerful enough you should be able to get away with anything, whilst the plebs must suffer in silence. Basically the foundation stones of fascism.'
Does that include the BBC?0
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