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He is stupid beyond belief.TheScreamingEagles said:Ed Miliband: I will pass new law to guarantee TV election debates
Labour leader pledges to enshrine voters’ rights as he attacks ‘tawdry spectacle’ of prime minister avoiding discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-leaders-tv-debates-guarantee-law
How about he does something sensible, like rule out a pact with the SNP. This has been a bad week for Cameron but it may prove to be the fatal week for Ed, the SNP issue is toxic and he knows it.0 -
@HIA____TUS: @iainmartin1 @JohnRentoul and I'm going to make it illegal to not have an opinion on a Thursday.....is it Idiot season already???0
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Is this b4 or after a judge led inquiry?FrancisUrquhart said:
Just what we need more laws...TheScreamingEagles said:Ed Miliband: I will pass new law to guarantee TV election debates
Labour leader pledges to enshrine voters’ rights as he attacks ‘tawdry spectacle’ of prime minister avoiding discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-leaders-tv-debates-guarantee-law0 -
I demand a judge-led inquiry into the failure to hold debates before the 2015 GE...Scott_P said:@cjsnowdon: Is Ed Miliband seriously suggesting that it should be a crime not to debate him on TV?
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Still waiting for Ed to call for one in relation to Mirror's hacking activities....felix said:
Is this b4 or after a judge led inquiry?FrancisUrquhart said:
Just what we need more laws...TheScreamingEagles said:Ed Miliband: I will pass new law to guarantee TV election debates
Labour leader pledges to enshrine voters’ rights as he attacks ‘tawdry spectacle’ of prime minister avoiding discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-leaders-tv-debates-guarantee-law0 -
@JohnRentoul
/ @Widerife81 @tobyhelm The best time of EdM's life was when he "led" a rent strike at Corpus Christie, remember?0 -
@nigel4england
Rule out a pact with duly elected representatives of their constituents because England has decided they don't like the FTP system?
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Cant wait to see the leader of the Green Party explain why rats should have the same rights as humans and that Horse and Dog racing should be banned.Morecambe and Wise were the top entertainers at one time..now we get Political debates..Ed will no doubt been sexed up by Mad Al to answer that one.0
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This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.0
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Maybe free owls for all wasn't a spoof after all....0
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@john_zims
It was Camerons right, and still is to try and sink the debates.It is the right of all the other parties to show him up as a privileged spoilt ponce0 -
And you think this will be good for him - well its a viewcompouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
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There must come a time when ed does something so hilariously dim, that the PB dim lefties realise how dim it is.compouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
I thought for 5 minutes this might actually be it.
Wrong again.0 -
Views....it's where it is at.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And you think this will be good for him - well its a viewcompouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
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Enough of this nonsense..off to bed Looking forward to more stupid announcements in the morning from Dauntless Ed..very funny lad...and increasingly desperate.0
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No. That was free howls for everyone.FrancisUrquhart said:Maybe free owls for all wasn't a spoof after all....
And boy is he delivering.
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Ed has a policy at last, you must be delighted.compouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
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@Big_G_NorthWales
A view held by the broadcasters, the other parties, many on his own side, and a large majority of the electorate.0 -
So if it's illegal not to appear on TV with Ed, what is the sanction?
You have to appear with Ed twice?
How many Labour MPs would fall foul of that law..0 -
Would not want to disapoint you.Ishmael_X said:
There must come a time when ed does something so hilariously dim, that the PB dim lefties realise how dim it is.compouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
I thought for 5 minutes this might actually be it.
Wrong again.0 -
Absolutely barking. What's he going to do if someone turns up and refuses to speak? Jail them?TheScreamingEagles said:Ed Miliband: I will pass new law to guarantee TV election debates
Labour leader pledges to enshrine voters’ rights as he attacks ‘tawdry spectacle’ of prime minister avoiding discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-leaders-tv-debates-guarantee-law0 -
Compouter You never disappoint0
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Rather spiffing isn't it.nigel4england said:
Ed has a policy at last, you must be delighted.compouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
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YouGov regain gold standard status
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Delayed reaction?john_zims said:@Smarmeron
'Lesser yellow bellied bald tit surely?'
Neil Kinnock?0 -
It doesnt appear in the top ten news items on the BBC but the toxic mix of labour and the SNP being called out by David Cameron does. This is a mega issue and dwarfs anything about debatesSmarmeron said:@Big_G_NorthWales
A view held by the broadcasters, the other parties, many on his own side, and a large majority of the electorate.0 -
John Zims..That would be the Ginger tit0
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The new normal.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov regain gold standard status
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Ed m should be pm, the laughter will be some compensation for the shambles. Gordon mark 2.0
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Next up: Miliband wants to pass a law forcing his MPs to put his picture on their election leaflets.
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ARF!TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov regain gold standard status
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You must have meant 2 - 1 at reading ;-)compouter2 said:
Delayed reaction?john_zims said:@Smarmeron
'Lesser yellow bellied bald tit surely?'
Neil Kinnock?
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YouGov
People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy
The 7-7-2 format of leaders debates is supported by 45% of people
The idea of just a straight debate between Cameron and Miliband is supported by 42% of people, opposed by 42% of people
If David Cameron doesn't agree to take part in the TV debates 55% think they should go ahead without him
50% of people think that Cameron is scared of debating the other party leaders, 32% that he isn't-1 -
So all that Cameron is frit and....the general public go, oh look The Big Painting Challenge is on the telly, that will be more exciting than this nonsense.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov regain gold standard status
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@saddened
Writing an act enabling the televised debates, and setting clear parameters of what, where, when. and who. would have avoided all this unseemly spectacle of Dave looking like a cowardly moron.
You would have thought he might have foreseen this in his tenure?
(OK, we all know Dave and his spin doctors did, but we can ignore facts and pretend otherwise)0 -
38% blame Cameron for the breakdown in the debate negotiations, 13% the broadcasters, 23% both equally0
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I didn't want to spoil your fun today by telling you I meant the replay.Tykejohnno said:
You must have meant 2 - 1 at reading ;-)compouter2 said:
Delayed reaction?john_zims said:@Smarmeron
'Lesser yellow bellied bald tit surely?'
Neil Kinnock?0 -
@FrancisUrquart
'Still waiting for Ed to call for one in relation to Mirror's hacking activities'
Yes, especially after all that stand up to vested interests crap.0 -
"People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy"
Chickens coming home to roost0 -
How are you going to force people to participate?Smarmeron said:@saddened
Writing an act enabling the televised debates, and setting clear parameters of what, where, when. and who. would have avoided all this unseemly spectacle of Dave looking like a cowardly moron.
You would have thought he might have foreseen this in his tenure?
(OK, we all know Dave and his spin doctors did, but we can ignore facts and pretend otherwise)0 -
Yeah, but if it's not going to change anybody's votes, does it matter?compouter2 said:"People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy"
Chickens coming home to roost
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Chickens coming home to roost to get well shagged by the old Cockerel0
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What was the question, How was it phrased.. ???compouter2 said:"People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy"
Chickens coming home to roost0 -
The Sunday Times are trailing two stories
Osborne prepares tax giveaway in budget with aim to put money in voters' pockets before the election
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Tony Blair's bid for £30m contract to advise UAE, while working as middle east envoy. See the leaked document online0 -
"38% blame Cameron for the breakdown in the debate negotiations, 13% the broadcasters, 23% both equally"GIN1138 said:
Yeah, but if it's not going to change anybody's votes, does it matter?compouter2 said:"People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy"
Chickens coming home to roost
So this is what the Poultry PM playing a blinder looks like?0 -
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@compouter2
Good for democracy, but not so good for Dave's chances of re-election.
And it isn't going to take people that long to make the connection (except in some corners of the internet)0 -
@PippaCrerar: Election debates enshrined in law? For real?! It's getting more The Thick of It as every day passes.0
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Wonder what the tax arrangements for that £30m contract look like?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times are trailing two stories
Osborne prepares tax giveaway in budget with aim to put money in voters' pockets before the election
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Tony Blair's bid for £30m contract to advise UAE, while working as middle east envoy. See the leaked document online0 -
It get's better and better. Chicken Run has has just been give another huge boost.TheScreamingEagles said:Hah
Victory for Dave?
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Not having a debate does not constitute a national emergency. We will all be able to read the manifestos and look at past records. That is what will decide the election..not a 90 minute TV show..will it be on ice and will they have to eat bugs,bake a cake..or summat exciting.0
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Blink....TheScreamingEagles said:Hah
Victory for Dave?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_hoqeyW8AEgXNb.png
Also mentioned on that front page, Steve Hilton is back too...Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing for the Tories. He did the Joe Rogan podcast last year and he was very very interesting, but totally unsuited to politics.0 -
Where's TNS?Tissue_Price said:
The new normal.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov regain gold standard status
Con 34 Lab 33 LD 8 UKIP 15 Greens 5%0 -
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Some chicken! Some neck!compouter2 said:"People support the idea of leaders debates by 69% to 19% and by 57% to 8% think they are good for democracy"
Chickens coming home to roost
And the best bit is, this probably is actually the high spot of the campaign for hapless ed. It must be bloody embarrassing, being a leftie.0 -
Defiant Dave does the one debate, then lets the remainder kick lumps out of each other as they squabble over silver, bronze and the wooden spoon.
And another Tory lead.
If Osborne delivers the right budget, we'll soon see clear blue water.0 -
Song for Ed:compouter2 said:
Rather spiffing isn't it.nigel4england said:
Ed has a policy at last, you must be delighted.compouter2 said:This decision by Ed keeps the whole Poultry PM clusterfcuk in the healines. The Chicken Run has just been extended.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCdjvTTnzDU0 -
Break them on the wheel or failing that tie them onto the wheel they used on remote control (the game show presented by Tony Wilson) and spin them around while everyone else is answering the questions.saddened said:
How are you going to force people to participate?
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Very good article on Ed from a couple of years ago. Slightly annoyed I didn't cotton on sooner. Still I'm not inside the media bubble.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/16/ed-miliband-middle-class-activist
'And picking off issues doesn't amount to an ideology. You see this most clearly with banks: any political party, and surely Labour above all, needs some idea about how they want to reform finance. Ed's suggestion is the frankly limp one that we need more banks.
Tactics, rather than strategy. Demands, rather than ideology. Miliband has proved he would be great fighting inequality, or arguing over biofuels. I'm not so sure how he'd tackle an election, let alone the demands of Downing Street.'0 -
Just what we need more bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake.FrancisUrquhart said:
Just what we need more laws...TheScreamingEagles said:Ed Miliband: I will pass new law to guarantee TV election debates
Labour leader pledges to enshrine voters’ rights as he attacks ‘tawdry spectacle’ of prime minister avoiding discussion
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-leaders-tv-debates-guarantee-law
It's simple really. Task Ofcom and the Electoral Commission to devise guidelines and criteria under which debates will take place. Let them then go forward
Miliband cannot force TV stations to hold debates, he cannot force politicians to attend the debates and he cannot force us to watch his latest piece of statism. As for the statutory body to over see it. The last thing we need is another quango stuffed full of Labour stooges who will stick their heads in the sand at the first hint of any controversy.
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Ed has lost his last marbles.
Laws on TV debates - what a James Hunt of an idea.0 -
Oh dear was hoping for better than that. You know like some arguments instead of a rant.Dair said:
Again, when caught out your default position is to lie, lie and exaggerate.Alanbrooke said:
It actually does make a difference since there;s a difference in being in a currency union ( you own someone lses problems ) and being in your own. The bariiers are getting other people to agree that they want a Union with you. The only deliverable option is own currency which the SNP rejected.
On trading blocs while the UK has been pragmatic as ever on trade, it is also part of a trading bloc the EU. The Nat assumption that they would just gain all the rights accrued to date doesn't stack up, UK opt outs would not apply to and Indy Scotland. Likewise agreements of fishing, financial services etc. would not apply to Scotland. So while trade will continue, it will not continue under the same condition and to the detriment of Scots
So to put that in context Scotland's terms of trade with its partners will worsen.
So again how do you pay your bills ?
You can tell me when I get back from the pub,off out have a good evening.
You can argue all you want about the EU position because the UK government REFUSED to ask for it. It is entirely speculative and with 18 months to work out the position, would not have been even remotely unachievable.
Then you start the lies. The fishing grounds ARE SCOTTISH. It is not that Scotland needs to access EU fishing grounds it is that several EU economies are significantly reliant on being able to access Scottish Waters (around 30% of ALL EU Fish Stocks)
It all ties back to the Little Englander mindset. England is important, everywhere else isn't. England matters, nowhere else does. England's economy makes a difference to the world, none of our partners benefit us.
It's no wonder UKIP has such a hold in a country with these sorts of insular, xenophobic attitudes.
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Or force the participants to actually answer the questions put to them?saddened said:
How are you going to force people to participate?Smarmeron said:@saddened
Writing an act enabling the televised debates, and setting clear parameters of what, where, when. and who. would have avoided all this unseemly spectacle of Dave looking like a cowardly moron.
You would have thought he might have foreseen this in his tenure?
(OK, we all know Dave and his spin doctors did, but we can ignore facts and pretend otherwise)0
