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bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
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Who is wearing a yellow raincoat ?anotherDave said:
Seems to more of a pressure group thing. Mumsnet for people in yellow raincoats.Hengists_Gift said:
Is that the follow up to the debate last October in the House Of Commons?anotherDave said:
I don't think they were invited.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"With the General Election fast approaching, the UK Cycling Alliance - which includes CTC - has invited cycling leads in political parties ... Lead transport spokespeople from the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrat political parties will debate their manifesto points on cycling and its infrastructure at the first ever ‘Big Cycling Debate.' "
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/uk-cycling-alliance-organise-first-big-cycling-debate-155543
I'll bet the Greens were miffed!
According to this less than 20 MPs turned up last time......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11169000/MPs-wont-take-cyclists-seriously-until-they-pay-tax.html
I'm not at all sure that cycling should feature in the election debate on national transport policy. Shouldn't that be left to local gov't?0 -
You are clearly a tortured soul. No self-respecting liberal elite would be seen dead in a TGI Fridays, or an out-of-town multiplex for that matter. At least you didn't admit to 10-pin bowling.TheScreamingEagles said:Especially us Liberal Metropolitan Posho Elites.
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Do you work for Hummus Bros? http://www.hbros.co.uk/tshirtJonnyJimmy said:
I still have the hat, though haven't worn it in ages.Anorak said:
[btw, what's your avatar/icon? didn't you used to have a hat?]
My pic now is a crappy cartoon I drew of an unidentified person covered in a pile (or pyramid!) of peas, holding out a sign saying "peas be upon me"
Great place, although it's best if you're outdoors for the rest of the day.0 -
Please - have you actually read the piece not the spin ?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
"Let’s say the Tories get more votes and Labour win more seats, which is quite possible, we may think that morally we should put the Tories in but they won’t have enough seats, we won’t have a choice. Last time round, us plus Labour was 11 short of a majority of one, so a majority where we’d have had to rely on Jeremy Corbyn voting through the Budget, things like that, for instance, so 11 short even of that level of a majority, so it wasn’t an option.”
Farron believes (with some justification if the polls are accurate) that even if the Conservatives are marginally ahead on votes they will be so far adrift on seats as to make a Coalition as unlikely as was any arrangement with Labour in 2010.
That is NOT saying the LDs will "have to side" with Labour - merely that the arithmetic will probably preclude siding with the Conservatives.
If, on the other hand, we get a result akin to 2010, there's no reason why the Coalition couldn't continue.
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I'm hoping to see audience photos of a mass of yellow jackets and head torches, with a significant sub-set of fairtrade-organic-wool hats.Pulpstar said:
Who is wearing a yellow raincoat ?anotherDave said:
Seems to more of a pressure group thing. Mumsnet for people in yellow raincoats.Hengists_Gift said:
Is that the follow up to the debate last October in the House Of Commons?anotherDave said:
I don't think they were invited.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"With the General Election fast approaching, the UK Cycling Alliance - which includes CTC - has invited cycling leads in political parties ... Lead transport spokespeople from the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrat political parties will debate their manifesto points on cycling and its infrastructure at the first ever ‘Big Cycling Debate.' "
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/uk-cycling-alliance-organise-first-big-cycling-debate-155543
I'll bet the Greens were miffed!
According to this less than 20 MPs turned up last time......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11169000/MPs-wont-take-cyclists-seriously-until-they-pay-tax.html
I'm not at all sure that cycling should feature in the election debate on national transport policy. Shouldn't that be left to local gov't?
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Also, Dave needs to move on defence spending. Recommit to Trident, commit to the 2% target for the next Parliament and begin increasing the size of our conventional and unified forces. The equipment budget has grown too much at the expense of conventional forces. What's the use of having all of this fancy equipment without the means to project it. Our military is becoming a glorified police force under the current government and it hasn't gone unnoticed amongst our partners in NATO.0
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I've been ten pin bowling there as well. Since I were a lad, I've been visiting here.Anorak said:
You are clearly a tortured soul. No self-respecting liberal elite would be seen dead in a TGI Fridays, or an out-of-town multiplex for that matter. At least you didn't admit to 10-pin bowling.TheScreamingEagles said:Especially us Liberal Metropolitan Posho Elites.
This is finest cinema in the country, has twenty top screens, including the UK's largest IMAX screen. Also has a decent clientèle so no chavs or plebs here.
And I can see as many movies as I want to, all for £19.40 a month.0 -
1) Ofcom rules only apply to TV and Radio so why they have referred to them I have no ideaanotherDave said:
A comment on the CTC link suggests OfCom's major/minor party ruling is not helping UKIP here.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"In organising the debate the UK Cycling Alliance has liaised extensively with the Electoral Commission to ensure that we adhere to the strict rules in the run up to a General Election and to ensure that we fulfill our aim for the event which is to put the main UK parties on the spot about what they will do to improve conditions for cycling if they get into government in May.
There are very strict Electoral Commission rules about which political parties should be invited to an election debate and by including one minor party we would have to include all others that have representation in the UK Parliament, potentially 11 plus parties, which would make an audience participative debate in the space of one our hour impossible to manage.
While we appreciate that "minor" parties should be included at the debate and have had one request so far, we are limited in how we can shape the event. Including one additional party alongside the three parties with the largest representations in Westminster alone isn’t an option.
However, we will be asking each party to send us their main points and will show this on our websites to ensure that voters from across the country are aware of party positions on active travel."
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
2) We are not yet in the campaign period so they do not apply
3) I thought UKIP have major party status anyway
4) Ofcom rules requires that all major parties be given an opportunity to respond on an issue
5) However in reality I do not think Ofcom rules apply to this. I suspect Electoral commission guidelines regarding Hustings do (see Page 7):
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/105946/sp-hustings-rp-npc-ca.pdf
6) Those guidelines allow organisations to pick and choose who they invite.
That explanation sounds like nonsense....0 -
He should rule out putting into power a party that finished second in share of the vote.stodge said:
Please - have you actually read the piece not the spin ?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
"Let’s say the Tories get more votes and Labour win more seats, which is quite possible, we may think that morally we should put the Tories in but they won’t have enough seats, we won’t have a choice. Last time round, us plus Labour was 11 short of a majority of one, so a majority where we’d have had to rely on Jeremy Corbyn voting through the Budget, things like that, for instance, so 11 short even of that level of a majority, so it wasn’t an option.”
Farron believes (with some justification if the polls are accurate) that even if the Conservatives are marginally ahead on votes they will be so far adrift on seats as to make a Coalition as unlikely as was any arrangement with Labour in 2010.
That is NOT saying the LDs will "have to side" with Labour - merely that the arithmetic will probably preclude siding with the Conservatives.
If, on the other hand, we get a result akin to 2010, there's no reason why the Coalition couldn't continue.
Have you and he forgotten the Democrat part of Liberal Democrat?0 -
Let's assume Dave and Ed both get around 280 seats +/- and that the yellow peril and nits get around 30 each +/- what then happens? And I mean what then happens to the markets and Sterling not who gets to be PM. The pound is awful strong right now but I can't see that surviving May if things pan out as every poll suggests they will. We're in for a period of political chaos - and that can't be good for the FTSE of the pound I'd have thought.0
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Hengists_Gift said:logical_song said:
God, I don't have to spend all my time on here reading your posts do I?Hengists_Gift said:
So you chose to ignore my other post about 'unguarded comments' so you could link that redundant observation anyway. I would have picked the original candidate for Clacton myself. I thought he did a particularly good job of showing himself up for no good purpose. You are not very good at this are you?anotherDave said:
UKIP seem to slag each other off quite well without any "urban liberal suspects", for example:TheScreamingEagles said:
Indeed after a couple of tame urban liberal academics have been poncing around the country for nearly two years peddling propaganda that UKIP voters are 'old white thick and poor'.anotherDave said:
In the recent ComRes/ITV poll the anti-UKIP sentiment looked more like class prejudice than anything to do with UKIP's candidates.Dair said:
I suspect, it is your activists and candidates that is likely drive away support.anotherDave said:Dair said:anotherDave said:YouGov Sunday Times asked a "would consider voting for / would not consider voting for." question. The parties fall into two clear groups.
LD +23% / -71% (biggest potential gains from Con)
p.4
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/42tha4tjwo/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-270215.pdf
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"1 in 3 voters might vote UKIP" was from ComRes. I think YouGov have always been around 1 in 4.
Polling shows that UKIP are considered the most extreme, least fit to govern, and have candidates more likely to have racist/extreme views.
The level of sneering from the Torygraph and other Tory propaganda outlets (not to mention the usual urban liberal suspects) was stomach churning. It was clearly a dog whistle that these were people 'not like them'.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-parliamentary-candidate-leaves-over-chairman-s-criminal-record-1-6546275
If you like I could link all the Tory stuff slagging off Cameron, the Labour stuff slagging off Miliband or the Libdem stuff slagging off Clegg if you like? However there are few things more verminous than urban liberal snobbery and their co-ordinated attacks on other parts of society. It is a disease that needs to be snuffed out!
Genuinely missed it.
This is what UKIP is like in my area:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-parliamentary-candidate-leaves-over-chairman-s-criminal-record-1-65462750 -
Ha! No, but I did once invent a dish called "whirled peas by beet in the meat" (pea and mint pesto with a lamb steak stuffed with a spicy beetroot relish)Anorak said:
Do you work for Hummus Bros? http://www.hbros.co.uk/tshirtJonnyJimmy said:
I still have the hat, though haven't worn it in ages.Anorak said:
[btw, what's your avatar/icon? didn't you used to have a hat?]
My pic now is a crappy cartoon I drew of an unidentified person covered in a pile (or pyramid!) of peas, holding out a sign saying "peas be upon me"
Great place, although it's best if you're outdoors for the rest of the day.0 -
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.0 -
@Hengists_Gift
God, I don't have to spend all my time on here reading your posts do I?
Genuinely missed it.
This is what UKIP is like in my area:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-parliamentary-candidate-leaves-over-chairman-s-criminal-record-1-6546275
Apologies for duff editing.0 -
I'd guess my local cycling club would have more UKIP than Lib Dem voters amongst them judging by Facebook feedsanotherDave said:
I'm hoping to see audience photos of a mass of yellow jackets and head torches, with a significant sub-set of fairtrade-organic-wool hats.Pulpstar said:
Who is wearing a yellow raincoat ?anotherDave said:
Seems to more of a pressure group thing. Mumsnet for people in yellow raincoats.Hengists_Gift said:
Is that the follow up to the debate last October in the House Of Commons?anotherDave said:
I don't think they were invited.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"With the General Election fast approaching, the UK Cycling Alliance - which includes CTC - has invited cycling leads in political parties ... Lead transport spokespeople from the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrat political parties will debate their manifesto points on cycling and its infrastructure at the first ever ‘Big Cycling Debate.' "
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/uk-cycling-alliance-organise-first-big-cycling-debate-155543
I'll bet the Greens were miffed!
According to this less than 20 MPs turned up last time......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11169000/MPs-wont-take-cyclists-seriously-until-they-pay-tax.html
I'm not at all sure that cycling should feature in the election debate on national transport policy. Shouldn't that be left to local gov't?
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"If the cost per party is more than £500, the organiser is making a donation to the party."Hengists_Gift said:
1) Ofcom rules only apply to TV and Radio so why they have referred to them I have no ideaanotherDave said:
A comment on the CTC link suggests OfCom's major/minor party ruling is not helping UKIP here.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"In organising the debate the UK Cycling Alliance has liaised extensively with the Electoral Commission to ensure that we adhere to the strict rules in the run up to a General Election and to ensure that we fulfill our aim for the event which is to put the main UK parties on the spot about what they will do to improve conditions for cycling if they get into government in May.
There are very strict Electoral Commission rules about which political parties should be invited to an election debate and by including one minor party we would have to include all others that have representation in the UK Parliament, potentially 11 plus parties, which would make an audience participative debate in the space of one our hour impossible to manage.
While we appreciate that "minor" parties should be included at the debate and have had one request so far, we are limited in how we can shape the event. Including one additional party alongside the three parties with the largest representations in Westminster alone isn’t an option.
However, we will be asking each party to send us their main points and will show this on our websites to ensure that voters from across the country are aware of party positions on active travel."
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
2) We are not yet in the campaign period so they do not apply
3) I thought UKIP have major party status anyway
4) Ofcom rules requires that all major parties be given an opportunity to respond on an issue
5) However in reality I do not think Ofcom rules apply to this. I suspect Electoral commission guidelines regarding Hustings do (see Page 7):
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/105946/sp-hustings-rp-npc-ca.pdf
6) Those guidelines allow organisations to pick and choose who they invite.
That explanation sounds like nonsense....
Be interesting to see if that one shows up the Electoral Commission donation figures.0 -
From the point of view of striking the best deal, the sensible thing must be to keep one's options open.TheScreamingEagles said:
He should rule out putting into power a party that finished second in share of the vote.stodge said:
Please - have you actually read the piece not the spin ?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
"Let’s say the Tories get more votes and Labour win more seats, which is quite possible, we may think that morally we should put the Tories in but they won’t have enough seats, we won’t have a choice. Last time round, us plus Labour was 11 short of a majority of one, so a majority where we’d have had to rely on Jeremy Corbyn voting through the Budget, things like that, for instance, so 11 short even of that level of a majority, so it wasn’t an option.”
Farron believes (with some justification if the polls are accurate) that even if the Conservatives are marginally ahead on votes they will be so far adrift on seats as to make a Coalition as unlikely as was any arrangement with Labour in 2010.
That is NOT saying the LDs will "have to side" with Labour - merely that the arithmetic will probably preclude siding with the Conservatives.
If, on the other hand, we get a result akin to 2010, there's no reason why the Coalition couldn't continue.
Have you and he forgotten the Democrat part of Liberal Democrat?
If I were a Lib Dem, I wouldn't strike any deal that didn't include PR for local elections.
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Patrick,
"Works for me!"
Well said, I divide the fauna of the world into two groups ... edible and non edible (although the latter group dwindles if you're very hungry).
In fact, I do the same to the flora now I come to think about it. Can you eat the Amazonian rainforest? Can you just save the edible bits?0 -
Correct.Patrick said:Let's assume Dave and Ed both get around 280 seats +/- and that the yellow peril and nits get around 30 each +/- what then happens? And I mean what then happens to the markets and Sterling not who gets to be PM. The pound is awful strong right now but I can't see that surviving May if things pan out as every poll suggests they will. We're in for a period of political chaos - and that can't be good for the FTSE of the pound I'd have thought.
Amazingly, there is still time to take corrective action. I was expecting the financial markets to wake up to the risks at around the end of 2014.0 -
Hengists_Gift said:
1) Ofcom rules only apply to TV and Radio so why they have referred to them I have no ideaanotherDave said:
A comment on the CTC link suggests OfCom's major/minor party ruling is not helping UKIP here.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"In organising the debate the UK Cycling Alliance has liaised extensively with the Electoral Commission to ensure that we adhere to the strict rules in the run up to a General Election and to ensure that we fulfill our aim for the event which is to put the main UK parties on the spot about what they will do to improve conditions for cycling if they get into government in May.
There are very strict Electoral Commission rules about which political parties should be invited to an election debate and by including one minor party we would have to include all others that have representation in the UK Parliament, potentially 11 plus parties, which would make an audience participative debate in the space of one our hour impossible to manage.
While we appreciate that "minor" parties should be included at the debate and have had one request so far, we are limited in how we can shape the event. Including one additional party alongside the three parties with the largest representations in Westminster alone isn’t an option.
However, we will be asking each party to send us their main points and will show this on our websites to ensure that voters from across the country are aware of party positions on active travel."
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
2) We are not yet in the campaign period so they do not apply
3) I thought UKIP have major party status anyway
4) Ofcom rules requires that all major parties be given an opportunity to respond on an issue
5) However in reality I do not think Ofcom rules apply to this. I suspect Electoral commission guidelines regarding Hustings do (see Page 7):
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/105946/sp-hustings-rp-npc-ca.pdf
6) Those guidelines allow organisations to pick and choose who they invite.
That explanation sounds like nonsense....
Postscript 7) And the Electoral Commission will have absolutely nothing to do with the Ofcom rules. There are very strong demarcation lines between them.0 -
Clearly a splendid example of civil society. :-)Pulpstar said:
I'd guess my local cycling club would have more UKIP than Lib Dem voters amongst them judging by Facebook feedsanotherDave said:
I'm hoping to see audience photos of a mass of yellow jackets and head torches, with a significant sub-set of fairtrade-organic-wool hats.Pulpstar said:
Who is wearing a yellow raincoat ?anotherDave said:
Seems to more of a pressure group thing. Mumsnet for people in yellow raincoats.Hengists_Gift said:
Is that the follow up to the debate last October in the House Of Commons?anotherDave said:
I don't think they were invited.Pulpstar said:Julian Huppert on twitter re: the cycling debate today.
"Strong turnout for the #cyclingdebate with 140 people ready to hear 3 main parties outline their plans for cycling "
UKIP not showing up ?
"With the General Election fast approaching, the UK Cycling Alliance - which includes CTC - has invited cycling leads in political parties ... Lead transport spokespeople from the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrat political parties will debate their manifesto points on cycling and its infrastructure at the first ever ‘Big Cycling Debate.' "
http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/20150219-big-cycling-debate-–-chance-participate
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/uk-cycling-alliance-organise-first-big-cycling-debate-155543
I'll bet the Greens were miffed!
According to this less than 20 MPs turned up last time......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11169000/MPs-wont-take-cyclists-seriously-until-they-pay-tax.html
I'm not at all sure that cycling should feature in the election debate on national transport policy. Shouldn't that be left to local gov't?
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Why don't they just do one major study on the question whether you can make omelettes without breaking eggs, and rely on that in future cases?Smarmeron said:@MaxPB
A small proportion of that spend is for the study of bird flight paths to mitigate the impact before they get planning permission.
A frivolous waste of profit, but there you go, not everyone has your hard headed business sense.
Alternatively, generate electricity the way God intended by digging up coal and burning the bloody stuff.0 -
I've tried this. It didn't end well.Ishmael_X said:
Why don't they just do one major study on the question whether you can make omelettes without breaking eggsSmarmeron said:@MaxPB
A small proportion of that spend is for the study of bird flight paths to mitigate the impact before they get planning permission.
A frivolous waste of profit, but there you go, not everyone has your hard headed business sense.
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Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons 0 -
In case you missed it, my pre-season thoughts on F1 2015 are up here:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/testing-thoughts.html0 -
For me the easiest way to sort Sterling is to buy gold. Maybe time to buy another load...Richard_Nabavi said:
Correct.Patrick said:Let's assume Dave and Ed both get around 280 seats +/- and that the yellow peril and nits get around 30 each +/- what then happens? And I mean what then happens to the markets and Sterling not who gets to be PM. The pound is awful strong right now but I can't see that surviving May if things pan out as every poll suggests they will. We're in for a period of political chaos - and that can't be good for the FTSE of the pound I'd have thought.
Amazingly, there is still time to take corrective action. I was expecting the financial markets to wake up to the risks at around the end of 2014.0 -
You're voting Tory, we've agreed on it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons0 -
@Ishmael_X
Sod the environment, we need to make money so we can pass on an inheritance to our offspring so they will be able to cope with the state of the world we have left them.
BTW? where do you suggest we dig this coal up from? Or do we import the cheap soft stuff from abroad?0 -
Any lurkers in Elmet/Rothwell, Portsmouth North or Kingswood should definitely vote Conservative btw.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons0 -
@portraitinflesh: Something awfully familiar about this...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_GjqtFXEAAn0XW.jpg0 -
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Naz Shah is the Labour candidate in Bradford West. She got less than 15 votes in the original selection.0
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That's absurd. Why would the Party do that ? If Labour finished one vote behind the Conservatives nationally, that would exclude them from office and presumably the same if the Conservatives finished one vote behind Labour.TheScreamingEagles said:
He should rule out putting into power a party that finished second in share of the vote.
Have you and he forgotten the Democrat part of Liberal Democrat?
Given all parties are minorities in form or another, I don't understand the second part of your comment at all.
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Nope there is just a complete inability of you to understand English. At no time did I say leaving the EU would make that BoP deficit disappear. You just made that up. My point,which I have made many times before on here and which you seem to be the only person incapable of understanding is that membership of the EU had hindered rather than helped our BoP deficit and that we have seen it worsen substantially whilst our BoP with the rest of the world has improved. I have used real numbers to illustrate that whilst you have simply plucked figures out of the sir with no basis in fact. In short I am consistent and use facts to back up my position whilst you make stuff up and use it to smear people.Dair said:
Holy hell, you're still going to persist after your direct lie was caught?
You said "I never at any time said that leaving the EU would give a BoP surplus." Today.
You said "The balance of payments deficit we have with the EU of over £80 billion a year is a fact. That we would have a balance of payments surplus were it not for our trade with the EU is a fact." Yesterday.
There is no spin on that, there is no mis-interpretation. You directly lied and contradicted yourself.0 -
Why are you retweeting old posters from the 80s ?TheScreamingEagles said:@portraitinflesh: Something awfully familiar about this...
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"This deal is getting worse all the time!" - Lando CalrissianTheScreamingEagles said:
You're voting Tory, we've agreed on it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
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I thought it was a new one?Pulpstar said:
Why are you retweeting old posters from the 80s ?TheScreamingEagles said:@portraitinflesh: Something awfully familiar about this...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_GjqtFXEAAn0XW.jpg0 -
Nope. Portsmouth North lurkers should definitely vote UKIP. It would probably be a good idea for them to convince their neighbours too!Pulpstar said:
Any lurkers in Elmet/Rothwell, Portsmouth North or Kingswood should definitely vote Conservative btw.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
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It's dire.TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought it was a new one?Pulpstar said:
Why are you retweeting old posters from the 80s ?TheScreamingEagles said:@portraitinflesh: Something awfully familiar about this...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_GjqtFXEAAn0XW.jpg0 -
No more Depeche Mode themed nighthawks if you don't vote Tory.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"This deal is getting worse all the time!" - Lando CalrissianTheScreamingEagles said:
You're voting Tory, we've agreed on it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons
I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmX2VzsB25sSunil_Prasannan said:
"This deal is getting worse all the time!" - Lando CalrissianTheScreamingEagles said:
You're voting Tory, we've agreed on it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons0 -
Well that's tomorrow's front pages sorted out.
An England footballer has been arrested on suspicion of having sex with a 14 year old girl.0 -
Well, that's more a bet on gold than on sterling, and historically gold has been a rather poor hedge against economic trouble.Patrick said:For me the easiest way to sort Sterling is to buy gold. Maybe time to buy another load...
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I thought our offspring were going to be swept away by rising ocean levels if we don't start tidal generation. Make your mind up.Smarmeron said:@Ishmael_X
Sod the environment, we need to make money so we can pass on an inheritance to our offspring so they will be able to cope with the state of the world we have left them.
BTW? where do you suggest we dig this coal up from? Or do we import the cheap soft stuff from abroad?0 -
#yewtree ?TheScreamingEagles said:Well that's tomorrow's front pages sorted out.
An England footballer has been arrested on suspicion of having sex with a 14 year old girl.
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Bouncy Castle time t-3 and counting.
7 point swing.
Just don't know who for...0 -
Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)0 -
@Ishmael_X
Why are they talking about having to raise the height of the London flood barrier? Architectural enhancement of the "riverscape"?0 -
Tories take lead in @LordAshcroft national poll 2nd March: Con 34 (+2), Lab 31 (-5), LD 7 (nc), UKIP 14 (+3), Green 7 (-1)
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Who tipped Con to take the lead with the Good Lord?TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
But just remember:
As The Good Lord Giveth The Good Lord Taketh
Amen!
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GOLD STANDARD!Sunil_Prasannan said:Tories take lead in @LordAshcroft national poll 2nd March: Con 34 (+2), Lab 31 (-5), LD 7 (nc), UKIP 14 (+3), Green 7 (-1)
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Yes I've seen that before. Frankly given the offences occurred 15 years ago I get the sense that that was a rather fabricated excuse and those spitting the dummy were unhappy for other reasons. These things happen especially when an organisation is thrown into the spotlight the way UKIP has been over the last two years. I'm sure there are plenty of such goings on in other parties (the goings on in Ashford Labour around Harriet Yeo who is now supporting UKIP for example). However they don't get the same sort of sensational media treatment despite her being a former Chair of Labour's NEC.logical_song said:@Hengists_Gift
God, I don't have to spend all my time on here reading your posts do I?
Genuinely missed it.
This is what UKIP is like in my area:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-parliamentary-candidate-leaves-over-chairman-s-criminal-record-1-6546275
Apologies for duff editing.
Fareham is interesting though because only three candidates seem to have been selected. Both the Tories and UKIP have still to find someone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2930136/Ukip-plunged-crisis-row-campaign-chief-s-criminal-past-leads-election-candidate-quitting.html0 -
That's more like it.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
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Edit function makes you a predictive genius.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
Lab -5 on the week = LOL.0 -
That is all very well, you say, but what if the leaders were holiday destinations? Well, I am glad you asked. Mr Cameron, according to our groups, would be “somewhere suave, like Monaco”, or quite possibly “an offshore island to store your money in”.
Mr Farage would simply be “Blighty!”, probably Margate or Southend because “they adore him down there” or (the view from Muswell Hill) “Benidorm.
Somewhere tacky and loud with egg and chips”. Mr Clegg would be somewhere “nice and inoffensive”, or possibly, since he must feel beleaguered, a distant location like the Caribbean “where people don’t know him so he won’t get hassled all the time”.
Mr Miliband? A place “where the traffic is terrible, because he doesn’t have any sense of direction.” Alternatively “the Moon, his own little world,” or more charitably “somewhere misunderstood – a really nice place but no-one goes there.”0 -
Broken, sleazy Labour on the slide?0
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Waiting to see how Mike put's an anti-Con spin on this one before I go out...0
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Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! In fact thats what I will refer to Ashcroft's polls as. 'The Tart's Drawers'.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
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The Conservatives have selected Suella Fernandes:Hengists_Gift said:Fareham is interesting though because only three candidates seem to have been selected. Both the Tories and UKIP have still to find someone.
http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/02/suella-fernandes-selected-as-the-conservative-candidate-for-fareham.html
Before that she'd been a runner-up in a number of selections.
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Tuition fees bringing the votes home!!
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Join me and we can end this destructive election campaign!TheScreamingEagles said:
No more Depeche Mode themed nighthawks if you don't vote Tory.Sunil_Prasannan said:
"This deal is getting worse all the time!" - Lando CalrissianTheScreamingEagles said:
You're voting Tory, we've agreed on it.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Or do a thread on ELBOW?TheScreamingEagles said:
In case the rozzers are reading, Pulpstar isn't offering Sunil I bribe for his vote.Pulpstar said:
bribe InboxSunil_Prasannan said:
Ooops. Now I have to vote Tory in Ilford North...TheScreamingEagles said:This is why every vote counts in May.
Has convinced me to vote Tory and not Lib Dem in May.
@georgeeaton: Tim Farron tells me that Lib Dems will have to side with Labour if they win more seats but Tories win more votes. http://bit.ly/1AOuKHH
Besides, I can bribe Sunil in better ways, I mean, I could threaten to put up threads on nothing but AV and Scotland for the rest of the week.
Basically Pulpstar wants me to vote Lab for "professional" reasons
I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further.0 -
Bouncier than a well-endowed lady on a trampoline.0
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@Hengists_Gift
"Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! "
But with a disturbingly familiar emission of bodily fluids where PB is concerned?0 -
@TSE This is one of them "untested" pollsters at a GE, right? 0
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His Lordship needs to get the comedy out of the actual figures before tryting to relocate it elsewhere.TheScreamingEagles said:That is all very well, you say, but what if the leaders were holiday destinations? Well, I am glad you asked. Mr Cameron, according to our groups, would be “somewhere suave, like Monaco”, or quite possibly “an offshore island to store your money in”.
Mr Farage would simply be “Blighty!”, probably Margate or Southend because “they adore him down there” or (the view from Muswell Hill) “Benidorm.
Somewhere tacky and loud with egg and chips”. Mr Clegg would be somewhere “nice and inoffensive”, or possibly, since he must feel beleaguered, a distant location like the Caribbean “where people don’t know him so he won’t get hassled all the time”.
Mr Miliband? A place “where the traffic is terrible, because he doesn’t have any sense of direction.” Alternatively “the Moon, his own little world,” or more charitably “somewhere misunderstood – a really nice place but no-one goes there.”0 -
Subliminal / repetitive advertising. You notice the message even if not looking directly at them.GIN1138 said:
Any one for Ed Miliband's Red eyes and "We warned you once."0 -
Gawd bless His Lordship's Bouncy Castle of Polling!
Last week a clear outlier, masking clear Blue water now between Labour and the Tories.
I feckin' well hope!0 -
I'm glad Suella Fernandes got a seat. She is a really nice person.Richard_Nabavi said:
The Conservatives have selected Suella Fernandes:Hengists_Gift said:Fareham is interesting though because only three candidates seem to have been selected. Both the Tories and UKIP have still to find someone.
http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/02/suella-fernandes-selected-as-the-conservative-candidate-for-fareham.html
Before that she'd been a runner-up in a number of selections.
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Yeah but that's good thing. Not getting moe or variation's the stuff you should worry more on. Static = suspicious.Hengists_Gift said:
Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! In fact thats what I will refer to Ashcroft's polls as. 'The Tart's Drawers'.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
I've posted y'day why I may have sussed YG's static problem.
Good tory poll but within moe despite dramatic looking swing back.0 -
The focus group comments that Lord Ashcroft provides about Milliband are laugh out loud funny.TheScreamingEagles said:That is all very well, you say, but what if the leaders were holiday destinations? Well, I am glad you asked. Mr Cameron, according to our groups, would be “somewhere suave, like Monaco”, or quite possibly “an offshore island to store your money in”.
Mr Farage would simply be “Blighty!”, probably Margate or Southend because “they adore him down there” or (the view from Muswell Hill) “Benidorm.
Somewhere tacky and loud with egg and chips”. Mr Clegg would be somewhere “nice and inoffensive”, or possibly, since he must feel beleaguered, a distant location like the Caribbean “where people don’t know him so he won’t get hassled all the time”.
Mr Miliband? A place “where the traffic is terrible, because he doesn’t have any sense of direction.” Alternatively “the Moon, his own little world,” or more charitably “somewhere misunderstood – a really nice place but no-one goes there.”
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"at a £1.85m mansion" - suggests he new on the scene - look sub 23 and less than 10 caps.TheScreamingEagles said:Well that's tomorrow's front pages sorted out.
An England footballer has been arrested on suspicion of having sex with a 14 year old girl.0 -
OK Anthony Wells (and Wiki) have yet to pick up on thatRichard_Nabavi said:
The Conservatives have selected Suella Fernandes:Hengists_Gift said:Fareham is interesting though because only three candidates seem to have been selected. Both the Tories and UKIP have still to find someone.
http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/02/suella-fernandes-selected-as-the-conservative-candidate-for-fareham.html
Before that she'd been a runner-up in a number of selections.
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If you suggest a good comparison topic via twitter he obliges, as one or two posters have discovered.Sean_F said:
The focus group comments that Lord Ashcroft provides about Milliband are laugh out loud funny.TheScreamingEagles said:That is all very well, you say, but what if the leaders were holiday destinations? Well, I am glad you asked. Mr Cameron, according to our groups, would be “somewhere suave, like Monaco”, or quite possibly “an offshore island to store your money in”.
Mr Farage would simply be “Blighty!”, probably Margate or Southend because “they adore him down there” or (the view from Muswell Hill) “Benidorm.
Somewhere tacky and loud with egg and chips”. Mr Clegg would be somewhere “nice and inoffensive”, or possibly, since he must feel beleaguered, a distant location like the Caribbean “where people don’t know him so he won’t get hassled all the time”.
Mr Miliband? A place “where the traffic is terrible, because he doesn’t have any sense of direction.” Alternatively “the Moon, his own little world,” or more charitably “somewhere misunderstood – a really nice place but no-one goes there.”0 -
They actually only need a 11% lead in England not to make Michael Gove look a prat when he said the Tories wouldn't lose any seats. And even then...TGOHF said:
"They need a 11% lead in England to win an overall blah blah blah..GIN1138 said:Waiting to see how Mike put's an anti-Con spin on this one before I go out...
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The fact that you have to ask (and won't get an answer) is the reason why this poll should be out at ELBOW, as it were.Sunil_Prasannan said:@TSE This is one of them "untested" pollsters at a GE, right?
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Ashcrofts so far this year:
11th Jan: Con +6
18th Jan: Con +1
25th Jan: Tie
1st Feb: Tie
8th Feb: Con +3
15th Feb: Lab +1
22nd Feb: Lab +4
1st Mar: Con +3
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YupSunil_Prasannan said:@TSE This is one of them "untested" pollsters at a GE, right?
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Ashcroft swinging wildly around the mean again.
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Ha.!! The idea that you are not a Eurofanatic is as believable as those figures you keep making up. I am coming to the conclusion that you are psychologically incapable of telling the truth about anything.Dair said:
No, I am stating the pretty obvious conclusion of your argument.JonnyJimmy said:
I'm saying that you're entirely misrepresenting the points that Richard has made.Dair said:
If your[???] claiming an implied non-sequitur feel free. It doesn't make his ramblings any more coherent or relevant.JonnyJimmy said:
Can you not read or understand what you've written?Dair said:
Holy hell, you're still going to persist after your direct lie was caught?
You said "I never at any time said that leaving the EU would give a BoP surplus." Today.
You said "The balance of payments deficit we have with the EU of over £80 billion a year is a fact. That we would have a balance of payments surplus were it not for our trade with the EU is a fact." Yesterday.
There is no spin on that, there is no mis-interpretation. You directly lied and contradicted yourself.
Leaving the EU is NOT THE SAME as stopping all trade with the EU. Richard never said we would stop all trade with the EU.
But IF we did stop all EU trade our BoP WOULD be £80bn better
Either wilfully, so you're a typically duplicitous Europhile, or just because you're a bit dim.
I thought the former, I'm now leaning towards the latter.
Either Tyndall is quoting the figure in support of his argument that the UK should leave the EU or he is introducing a non-sequitur to imply he has supporting facts when they are completely unrelated to his argument.
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Rightly, he says look at the trend.Hengists_Gift said:
Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! In fact thats what I will refer to Ashcroft's polls as. 'The Tart's Drawers'.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
Since the start of the year, Lord A has produced 4 Conservative leads, 2 Labour leads, and 2 ties. That's an average Conservative lead of 1%, so far this year. That is out of line with internet panels, but in line with other telephone surveys. An average of all 13 telephone surveys this year puts the Conservatives 1% ahead.
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Yes, she is, and I thought she was impressive on the couple of occasions when I met her. The only thing is that I think she might have been better suited to a seat in the London area.Sean_F said:I'm glad Suella Fernandes got a seat. She is a really nice person.
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The good thing about Wiki is that you can edit things yourselfHengists_Gift said:
OK Anthony Wells (and Wiki) have yet to pick up on thatRichard_Nabavi said:
The Conservatives have selected Suella Fernandes:Hengists_Gift said:Fareham is interesting though because only three candidates seem to have been selected. Both the Tories and UKIP have still to find someone.
http://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2015/02/suella-fernandes-selected-as-the-conservative-candidate-for-fareham.html
Before that she'd been a runner-up in a number of selections. 0 -
I think the magic number for the Cons is 300.MarqueeMark said:
They actually only need a 11% lead in England not to make Michael Gove look a prat when he said the Tories wouldn't lose any seats. And even then...TGOHF said:
"They need a 11% lead in England to win an overall blah blah blah..GIN1138 said:Waiting to see how Mike put's an anti-Con spin on this one before I go out...
More than that and Dave is PM - which is prize no 1.
Less than that and it would look very difficult to last for 5 years.0 -
Well I'm sure you do but I no more believe Labour at 31% this week than I did the 43% combined Conservative-UKIP share last week.MarqueeMark said:Gawd bless His Lordship's Bouncy Castle of Polling!
Last week a clear outlier, masking clear Blue water now between Labour and the Tories.
I feckin' well hope!
It's all good entertainment and keeps Tories like you happy for a few days but meaningless on most other levels.
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Just gonna repeat this. Variation inside moe which this is, is good & shows sampling's working well.
YG's problem's this. MS says they have 300k registered but I've done 2 VI polls in 3 days, first of my life & they're bloody long. You get 2 GE q's, general then constituency specific, then 10-15 mins of other q's about all kinds of stuff some of it badly phrased and boring as shit. LIke q's all about Heathrow as an experience y'day. ONly boring turds like me are gonna be arsed to go through that crap.
I reckon it's clear whatever YG say to deny this: <3000 people bother to fill em in. Same old 3k of people complete the long VI surveys = small sample pool, same old people, same old result day in day out.0 -
A lot of the FTSE 100 earnings are overseas so a plunging pound means soaring dollar earnings.Patrick said:
For me the easiest way to sort Sterling is to buy gold. Maybe time to buy another load...Richard_Nabavi said:
Correct.Patrick said:Let's assume Dave and Ed both get around 280 seats +/- and that the yellow peril and nits get around 30 each +/- what then happens? And I mean what then happens to the markets and Sterling not who gets to be PM. The pound is awful strong right now but I can't see that surviving May if things pan out as every poll suggests they will. We're in for a period of political chaos - and that can't be good for the FTSE of the pound I'd have thought.
Amazingly, there is still time to take corrective action. I was expecting the financial markets to wake up to the risks at around the end of 2014.
Also much of the risk is priced in.0 -
Couldnt have been Rooney anyway, shes 50 years too youngTGOHF said:
"at a £1.85m mansion" - suggests he new on the scene - look sub 23 and less than 10 caps.TheScreamingEagles said:Well that's tomorrow's front pages sorted out.
An England footballer has been arrested on suspicion of having sex with a 14 year old girl.
for his taste
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Gold was awful when Yugoslavia collapsed - the exchange rate of gold coins to food was appalling. If you want to hedge against TSC (total societal collapse), then you need shotgun shells, bottled water and wine.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well, that's more a bet on gold than on sterling, and historically gold has been a rather poor hedge against economic trouble.Patrick said:For me the easiest way to sort Sterling is to buy gold. Maybe time to buy another load...
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Thats one worth noting 'cos I rate phone pollsters much more than onliners. Current psn could be narrow tory lead.Sean_F said:
Rightly, he says look at the trend.Hengists_Gift said:
Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! In fact thats what I will refer to Ashcroft's polls as. 'The Tart's Drawers'.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
Since the start of the year, Lord A has produced 4 Conservative leads, 2 Labour leads, and 2 ties. That's an average Conservative lead of 1%, so far this year. That is out of line with internet panels, but in line with other telephone surveys. An average of all 13 telephone surveys this year puts the Conservatives 1% ahead.0 -
Make your mind up. You want anti-warming measures like barrages, but when someone proposes building one it becomes a capitalist plot to enrich the hedge funds and cheat our grandchildren. The "I'm going on a protest, dunno what it's about" mentality.Smarmeron said:@Ishmael_X
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The Tories lead 36/32% in England, before don't knows are reallocated (presumably that would put it up to a lead of 5%).
Among those who've definitely made up their minds, the Tories lead 38/32
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And a 1% lead would give which Party most seats, SeanF?Sean_F said:
Rightly, he says look at the trend.Hengists_Gift said:
Ashcroft's pollster is up and down more than a tart's drawers! In fact thats what I will refer to Ashcroft's polls as. 'The Tart's Drawers'.TheScreamingEagles said:Ashcroft regains Gold Standard status
Con 34 (+2) Lab 31 (-5) LD 7 (NC) UKIP 14 (+3) Greens 7 (-1)
Since the start of the year, Lord A has produced 4 Conservative leads, 2 Labour leads, and 2 ties. That's an average Conservative lead of 1%, so far this year. That is out of line with internet panels, but in line with other telephone surveys. An average of all 13 telephone surveys this year puts the Conservatives 1% ahead.0
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