Depressing there is so much comment online about Burnham's wife.
Leave her alone. Her life is going to be hard enough as it is what with the constant threat and 24-hour security all over them and their family.
To this site's credit, there has been zero comment on her on here.
The only thing I know about her, which I like, is that Burnham refers to her as MF.
Literary proff John Mullan said the other day that she was the "cool" star of Fitzwilliam in the days when he and Burnham were there (Mullan was a tutor at the point).
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
They won't put many details into the public domain so as not to prejudice the trial.
We might get more clues if they add a terror charge. But maybe not.
The horror of the nature of such a targeted attack is quite staggering. Of course we can speculate in private but keep it offline.
The authorities won't but didn't someone say the accused ran a couple of subreddits? If so, that must give him some sort of online presence. This is where we need Leon to tell us what the alt right says. Or not.
I think that was Foss or Phill (apols if wrong) and more expressing a belief that he looked like the type to run subreddits, rather than actual information about actual subreddits.
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
I sometimes think it was a last echo of the War Generation. Privations to be undertaken for the greater goal of defeating the enemy with everyone doing their bit and suffering together as one.
I suspect with every passing decade that this is less likely to be repeatable to be honest.
I would like, however, Yvette as new Health Sec, to set up a proper science driven inquiry into how we deal with the next virus rather than the lawyer-driven nonsense that was Hasslet's inquiry.
The two pictures so far published of the accused in the Widdecombe case don't appear to be the same man.
There is also a court sketch in the BBC news website story.
That's one of the ones I meant. The other picture (can't find ATM) shows a chap with almost shoulder length hair and a beard. Different shape face, too.
It could just be a terrible court sketch.
The photo with long hair is from 4 years ago from what I recall.
Which easily explains the differences. People change
There's this one of him balancing some kind of object on his head.
I can't decide if he looks the murdering type or not.
He's a man. That's essentially the murdering type.
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
I sometimes think it was a last echo of the War Generation. Privations to be undertaken for the greater goal of defeating the enemy with everyone doing their bit and suffering together as one.
I suspect with every passing decade that this is less likely to be repeatable to be honest.
I would like, however, Yvette as new Health Sec, to set up a proper science driven inquiry into how we deal with the next virus rather than the lawyer-driven nonsense that was Hasslet's inquiry.
Tbf there was some science stuff in the inquiry reports and/or government responses which aiui are still trickling out, but yes, what we need is a quick summary and plan for what to do next time, then to actually prepare for it, unlike the government response to Exercise Cygnus.
For instance, the Module 3 report discusses the mistakes over airborne droplets among many other things.
In the US, "soul" has a meaning somewhat different meaning than in the UK. For example, "souls to the polls" means, roughly, that black churches should encourage their members to vote.
I don't suppose there will be any parallel for the first, but I hope that Northern Soul's political success will produce some music worth listening to. Any evidence of that, so far? (If Wikipedia is right, the movement with that name has a way to go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_soul )
Northern Soul has produced lots of great songs over the years.
Northern Soul was essentially records made in the USA ( mainly Detroit) by the likes of labels like Gordy/Motown, Rik-Tik, Brunswick and Golden World. The Northern bit was scabby Mancs who played the records in the Wigan Casino in 1972.
I understand that the Wigan Casino was actually a fairly late arrival on the scene, preceeded by the Twisted Wheel in Manchester and the Golden Torch in Stoke. There was also a cult of obscurity in the music, with DJ's vying for rare and unknown tracks to play.
There is a bit of a youth revival, but the mainstays are old timers, like the aficionados that come to the IoW scooter rally on August bank holiday weekend.
Quite pleased with Burnham's start. There's little not to like so far. Hopefully his MPs enjoy their little taste of actual public approval, and keep allowing him to do good things like limit migration and reform welfare. I shall not hold my breath, but I'm not going to drip with pre-judged contempt like quite a few people on the right are doing. It's silly.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
I know the world cup was quite exciting and there has lots been going in politiics, but is everybody hyped for the start of the Hundred?
Streaming a one day match on youtube, enjoyed bits of the Blast and couldn't care less about the Hundred. English cricket is about county rivalry, beer, sandwiches and mild summer days.
Stokes is supposed to be playing for Durham in the county one-day cup.
Edit: I see that I missed him scoring a century in Durham's victory over Derbyshire today.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
Did we ever get any clear movitations from the multiple would be assassins of Trump? It seems very little info was released in the aftermath and I presume they are all awaiting trial.
I know the world cup was quite exciting and there has lots been going in politiics, but is everybody hyped for the start of the Hundred?
Streaming a one day match on youtube, enjoyed bits of the Blast and couldn't care less about the Hundred. English cricket is about county rivalry, beer, sandwiches and mild summer days.
Stokes is supposed to be playing for Durham in the county one-day cup.
Edit: I see that I missed him scoring a century in Durham's victory over Derbyshire today.
He was at the last home T20 not playing but glad handing the crowd and signing plenty of autographs and, generally, enjoying the adulation.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
I sometimes think it was a last echo of the War Generation. Privations to be undertaken for the greater goal of defeating the enemy with everyone doing their bit and suffering together as one.
I suspect with every passing decade that this is less likely to be repeatable to be honest.
I would like, however, Yvette as new Health Sec, to set up a proper science driven inquiry into how we deal with the next virus rather than the lawyer-driven nonsense that was Hasslet's inquiry.
Tbf there was some science stuff in the inquiry reports and/or government responses which aiui are still trickling out, but yes, what we need is a quick summary and plan for what to do next time, then to actually prepare for it, unlike the government response to Exercise Cygnus.
For instance, the Module 3 report discusses the mistakes over airborne droplets among many other things.
That said, I agree with the general tenor of the complaint that lawyers dissecting gossip for gotchas is not useful. It doesn't really matter what Chris Whitty said to Patrick Vallance or if Boris and Nicola were BFFs or mortal enemies because next time, none of them will be in place.
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
Did we ever get any clear movitations from the multiple would be assassins of Trump? It seems very little info was released in the aftermath and I presume they are all awaiting trial.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
They're not wrong, to be fair.
There is an argument that right or wrong the Whitehouse should butt out and stfu. Remember how outraged you were at Obama's " back of the queue" comment?
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Where did I criticise the time taken for the police to apprehend the alleged perpetrator?
There’s no way a narrative of wrong place at the wrong time would have been allowed to develop had a politician of a different political persuasion been brutally murdered.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
They're not wrong, to be fair.
There is an argument that right or wrong the Whitehouse should butt out and stfu. Remember how outraged you were at Obama's " back of the queue" comment?
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
Did we ever get any clear movitations from the multiple would be assassins of Trump? It seems very little info was released in the aftermath and I presume they are all awaiting trial.
At the start. You can only hope she was soon at least unconsious.
One has to be absolutely bonkers to drive a six hundred mile round trip in an old Vauxhall Corsa with no aircon to club and old lady 21 times with a claw hammer because one doesn't like her politics/ dancing.
My key take away, and I didn't like her very much, was that I seemed sadder than her party leader who posed with a wreath for a photo opportunity. What a hateful ****!
I quite like the appointment of Wes Streeting to the position of Defence Secretary. He is very ambitious and that's a good thing - hopefully he won't settle for being fobbed off by the epaulette-wearing blob that seems to infest the MOD. I don't agree with people who demand someone 'who has served' or who has 'a military bearing'. It's not a golf club, it's an organisation set up to stop us being killed. It's time it was taken seriously and a few sacred cows went to the barbecue.
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
Did we ever get any clear movitations from the multiple would be assassins of Trump? It seems very little info was released in the aftermath and I presume they are all awaiting trial.
Looking at the comments, it's beginning to dawn on me that a lot of you don't know what Northern Soul is. To that end, here is the tail end of a Culture Show episode from 2013 which includes Paul Mason (yes, that Paul Mason) dancing in the Northern Soul manner.
Horrific details of the murder of Anne Widdecombe. He's been to Westminster Magistrates and is up in the Old Bailey this afternoon? Hopefully he pleads guilty, her family have been through enough.Utter scumbag.
I hope he's thrown in jail and they throw away the key, but how on earth did this ever happen?
He looks like the sort of guy who plays World of Warcraft online, and posts a lot on 4Chan, including incelly stuff, but to actually do something like this..
Why?
Self-radicalisation through ever tighter online social groups that end up looking an awful lot like cults from the outside maybe? We’ve already had one murderous rationalist / trans cult in the USA by way of example (the Zizians), it wouldn’t be totally out there for something similar to happen here.
The same process that creates far right terrorists (of which we’ve seen a few over the years) can be just as effective at creating leftist ones, we just haven’t seen as many of those in recent years. A group can turn in on itself & self-radicalise to the point where violence becomes a logical outcome of the group’s internal logic & relationship to the outside world.
The accused lost his father to cancer last December, then stayed alone in the house, gained weight, cut their hair, then in July 2026 drove hundreds of miles to a politician's house, kills her brutally on entrance, steals her wallet, then immediately drives back. The gap between arrival and departure was approx twenty minutes. That's...odd.
There are numerous online theories, most connected to Ann's opinions and/or connected to the accused's speculated motive or characteristics. Others speculate on possible connections between Ann's relatives and the accused. But the thing I'm most struck by is that even after 13-14 days we don't know anything about the motive and very little about the accused. We are so used io people putting their lives online we don't know how to cope with people that don't.
Did we ever get any clear movitations from the multiple would be assassins of Trump? It seems very little info was released in the aftermath and I presume they are all awaiting trial.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
They're not wrong, to be fair.
There is an argument that right or wrong the Whitehouse should butt out and stfu. Remember how outraged you were at Obama's " back of the queue" comment?
No, I don't.
Perhaps you confuse me with someone else.
Fair point. You weren't here then.
Was there another particularly prolific Brexit poster who posed as a pirate?
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
No - a very mentally disturbed person should have been the first thought.
The only real issue is how long it took them to find the film of the attack. If it was professionally installed, I expect the installer would have contacted police very quickly.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Andy Burnham has appointed the most Oxbridge-educated Cabinet in modern times. 17 of the 28 Ministers appointed were educated at either Oxford or Cambridge, according to analysis by The i Paper
And yet bugger all of them (i think 3) have had a job in the private sector let alone run a business.
At the start. You can only hope she was soon at least unconsious.
One has to be absolutely bonkers to drive a six hundred mile round trip in an old Vauxhall Corsa with no aircon to club and old lady 21 times with a claw hammer because one doesn't like her politics/ dancing.
My key take away, and I didn't like her very much, was that I seemed sadder than her party leader who posed with a wreath for a photo opportunity. What a hateful ****!
The key detail that is currently sticking with me is that she had her front door unlocked. She was still sitting down having her lunch when he got to her.
I'm glad that she had that feeling of safety to leave her door unlocked. Better than living in fear and wondering if a murderer is about to attack you.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
A 600-mile round trip is a long way to go for a burglary, unless you're aiming to lift a specific rare item of high-value.
I know the world cup was quite exciting and there has lots been going in politiics, but is everybody hyped for the start of the Hundred?
I see the Sunrisers Women are playing the MI women on BBC2 to a few hundred people.
Hilariously the London franchise has changed and they are doing a short amnesty.
I've watched Hampshire since my early teens. Happy to watch the Blast, as I did at the weekend. But no interest in manufactured franchises with no history.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
I think that is nonsense tbh. If they had gone and nicked a whole load of valuables then maybe, but an old ladies purse, 600 mile round trip, hit 21 times with a claw hammer....People nicking little old ladies purses just go up to them in the street and say give us your purse, or steal it off the table, or at worst break in in the local area, push them over and leg it.
People travelling distance to do robberies have very specific high value target in mind and normally a team of them. Also murdering the people you are nicking from bad for business and Widdecombe wasn't exactly Duncan Fergurson where you fear for you life if he gets hold of you.
Beyond that I have no idea. Terrorism, politicially motivated, weird obsessive, has had a mental breakdown and a one off thing Widdecombe said on tv news or Ch5 over the edge in a fit of rage rather than necessarily been careful assassination of a poltical "enemy".
Depressing there is so much comment online about Burnham's wife.
Leave her alone. Her life is going to be hard enough as it is what with the constant threat and 24-hour security all over them and their family.
To this site's credit, there has been zero comment on her on here.
The only thing I know about her, which I like, is that Burnham refers to her as MF.
Literary proff John Mullan said the other day that she was the "cool" star of Fitzwilliam in the days when he and Burnham were there (Mullan was a tutor at the point).
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
They're not wrong, to be fair.
There is an argument that right or wrong the Whitehouse should butt out and stfu. Remember how outraged you were at Obama's " back of the queue" comment?
No, I don't.
Perhaps you confuse me with someone else.
Fair point. You weren't here then.
Was there another particularly prolific Brexit poster who posed as a pirate?
Not one who was outraged about Obama's comments, no.
I have just gone through the Search Results for the phrase "back of the queue" which was 20 pages of results and I can not find a single comment [outraged or otherwise] by me under this username ever using that phrase. So its not something I'm especially outraged by.
And under my previous username, it was a phrase used 5 times Regarding Covid vaccines (not Brexit) was 4 of those 5 times.
The only comment I ever made, in a Brexit context, never even mentioned Obama or any outrage, it was in reply to TSE saying "But we promised nowt but sunlit uplands. No Deal betrays the voters." The pirate replied "No we were promised doom, gloom, depression, emergency budgets, WWIII, a jungle in Kent, stuck in the back of the queue and more. If that comes to pass you get to say "told you so" not that you were betrayed."
So no, neither I nor any other pirate has ever been outraged about Obama's comments.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
Andy Burnham has appointed the most Oxbridge-educated Cabinet in modern times. 17 of the 28 Ministers appointed were educated at either Oxford or Cambridge, according to analysis by The i Paper
And yet bugger all of them (i think 3) have had a job in the private sector let alone run a business.
Running a business does not make some any more suitable to be a government minister than not running a business. Lack of diverse backgrounds and experiences, including lack of business experience, is of general relevance since it means a lack of varied thinking and perhaps understanding, but I think sometimes there is an implication business people are inherently better, which I really doubt is the case.
Andy Burnham has appointed the most Oxbridge-educated Cabinet in modern times. 17 of the 28 Ministers appointed were educated at either Oxford or Cambridge, according to analysis by The i Paper
And yet bugger all of them (i think 3) have had a job in the private sector let alone run a business.
Running a business does not make some any more suitable to be a government minister than not running a business. Lack of diverse backgrounds and experiences, including lack of business experience, is of general relevance since it means a lack of varied thinking and perhaps understanding, but I think sometimes there is an implication business people are inherently better, which I really doubt is the case.
You want a good mix. We have already seen in the past 2 years how not having a good mix left the government absolutely blind to things any business person could tell you was going to be a shit show.
Same as if you just had a government of just business people, I think their dealing of the NHS, education, etc might be suboptimal. I also think there are certain roles that do ideally require some specific life experiences e.g. Streeting at defence compared to an Al Cairns of Dan Jarvis seems suboptimal (and I think Streeting is very capable but military is proper foreign world).
Ideally I would hope to have an economist at CoE and somebody with good business experience at whatever they are calling business, technology, industrial mashup.
Labour's Rishi Sunak given bigger role for AI seems sensible.
I know the world cup was quite exciting and there has lots been going in politiics, but is everybody hyped for the start of the Hundred?
I see the Sunrisers Women are playing the MI women on BBC2 to a few hundred people.
Hilariously the London franchise has changed and they are doing a short amnesty.
I've watched Hampshire since my early teens. Happy to watch the Blast, as I did at the weekend. But no interest in manufactured franchises with no history.
We love the blast. Always a decent crowd at Durham and great fun.
Did three games this year. Would have done a couple more had we not been away.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Depressing there is so much comment online about Burnham's wife.
Leave her alone. Her life is going to be hard enough as it is what with the constant threat and 24-hour security all over them and their family.
To this site's credit, there has been zero comment on her on here.
The only thing I know about her, which I like, is that Burnham refers to her as MF.
Literary proff John Mullan said the other day that she was the "cool" star of Fitzwilliam in the days when he and Burnham were there (Mullan was a tutor at the point).
I married the coolest girl at my Cambridge college too, so fair play to Burnham.
Paul Lewis: The VAT cut "will be hard to put back once taken away."
LOL. Not half.
The irony is that this VAT cut will occur on the same day that the next price cap comes in and currently prices are expected to rise by at lrast 3% and possibly 5% given the current expected price of gas over the next month.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
As I have said before the key failure of the management of Covid was the failure to adopt and address new evidence. As the truly great JM Keynes once said, "If the facts change, I change my mind, what do you do sir?"
The failure to acknowledge or think about changes on the evidence was terrible. If the Inquiry had spent as much as 1% of the time they spent on gotchas on that point it might have proved worthwhile.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Its a small world down that part of the country ( I once lived there), everybody knows everybody. My guess would be the plod know of a wrong'un in Newton Abott, saw a mess, purse gone and a red car on the cctv and put 2+2 together and got 5.
Where they did mess up is even after they released him they still said no, we don't think anything politically motivated, only for the counter-terrorist lot to take over the case a few hours later. Other former police have said they messed that up, ruling out a motivate, rather than saying, we don't know at the moment, following lots of lines of inquiries.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
I don't think the distance travelled is a requirement for the offence of aggravated burglary. Simply an intention to enter a property equipped to physically or psychologically injure the occupant.
The other thing about it, the police ought to have reassured the public that the most likely scenario was a targeted attack and that there was very little danger to the public.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
I don't think the distance travelled is a requirement for the offence of aggravated burglary. Simply an intention to enter a property equipped to physically or psychologically injure the occupant.
No I mean perhaps one might sometimes want a murder to look like a robbery...
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Foxy's comment begins "Even now I am not convinced...".
Andy Burnham makes first Labour figure to call for Starmer to quit a minister
Anas Sarwar, the Scottish Labour leader, will be a minister in the Department for Business, Innovation, Science and Trade after accepting a place in the Lords
List Sir James Bevan (shit in the water - failure of the regulator model) Sir Chris Whitty (lockdown) Tony Benn (party leaders elected by the membership) Martin Lewis (saving in cash rather than investing in stocks) Irene Rosenfeld (lying takeovers by foreigners) Morgan McSweeney (faction fighter who alienated friends and failed to conciliate enemies) Steven Bartlett (rise of the podcast, death of journalism) Mary Whitehouse (rise of the pressure group) Nigel Lawson (privatisation)
I don't think Chris Whitty should be taking all the blame (if its even due). I don't recall the world pushing back that hard on lockdown, other than an awful lot of people with perfect 20:20 hindsight.
Screaming at South African officials for daring to suggest Omicron variant wasn't causing their medical system much of an issue and wearing a mask outside whilst getting a ☕ were just a couple of examples of Whittys idiocy..🧐
Evidence for that? Whitty was CMO and advised the government who took the decisions. Not everything made sense. I never agreed with stopping people meeting outside. And the reluctance to change advise when it became clear that covid was spreading via aerosols and notdroplets was stupid. But lockdown was widely supported and many people did it voluntarily. To blame Whitty is ludicrous.
I disagree. It was clear by Oct 2020 wgen he used very selective data to justify the second lockdown that he was not only wrong but - well, I won't say malign, but pushing a very peculiar agenda. Plenty of us could see so at the time.
I still can't forget that bloody 18 months.
I hated it.
I can't believe it happened, or more specifically, it was allowed to happen.
As I have said before the key failure of the management of Covid was the failure to adopt and address new evidence. As the truly great JM Keynes once said, "If the facts change, I change my mind, what do you do sir?"
The failure to acknowledge or think about changes on the evidence was terrible. If the Inquiry had spent as much as 1% of the time they spent on gotchas on that point it might have proved worthwhile.
"Inconsistency is the bugbear of Silly Asses." - Admiral "Mad" Jack Fisher
Paul Lewis: The VAT cut "will be hard to put back once taken away."
LOL. Not half.
The irony is that this VAT cut will occur on the same day that the next price cap comes in and currently prices are expected to rise by at lrast 3% and possibly 5% given the current expected price of gas over the next month.
It's an interesting one given the Starmer era.
It is pure politics to announce in a blaze of early days publicity this VAT cut and it is an easy one to message - "look, no more VAT on electricity" but the fiscal reality is it will slow the rise in cost of living for energy not halt or reverse it. Indeed, it may be utterly swamped if Trump continues to rage at the Mullahs.
Does political messaging triumph even when people actually - later on - see the actual bill of electrics?
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Its a small world down that part of the country ( I once lived there), everybody knows everybody. My guess would be the plod know of a wrong'un in Newton Abott, saw a mess, purse gone and a red car on the cctv and put 2+2 together and got 5.
Where they did mess up is even after they released him they still said no, we don't think anything politically motivated, only for the counter-terrorist lot to take over the case a few hours later. Other former police have said they messed that up, ruling out a motivate, rather than saying, we don't know at the moment, following lots of lines of inquiries.
Yes, I guess we’ll never get to know quite what went on with that first arrest but that hypothesis seems reasonable.
They really needed to come out with something more solid once they’d seen the footage. The public down there had every right to be worried about the possibility of a killer being on the loose. But the police are more concerned with managing the narrative than making sure the public aren’t unnecessarily worried (obviously most sensible people wouldn’t be worried because they’d have done what humans do and worked out what had probably gone on).
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Foxy's comment begins "Even now I am not convinced...".
...the murder was terrorism"
The UK definition of Terrorism is an action or threat designed to influence the government or intimidate the public. Its purpose is to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.
We do not yet know if that was the motive for the killing.
Andy Burnham makes first Labour figure to call for Starmer to quit a minister
Anas Sarwar, the Scottish Labour leader, will be a minister in the Department for Business, Innovation, Science and Trade after accepting a place in the Lords
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
I don't think the distance travelled is a requirement for the offence of aggravated burglary. Simply an intention to enter a property equipped to physically or psychologically injure the occupant.
No I mean perhaps one might sometimes want a murder to look like a robbery...
I don't think the killer made much of an attempt to conceal the crime. He parked in the drive.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
I don't think the distance travelled is a requirement for the offence of aggravated burglary. Simply an intention to enter a property equipped to physically or psychologically injure the occupant.
No I mean perhaps one might sometimes want a murder to look like a robbery...
I don't think the killer made much of an attempt to conceal the crime. He parked in the driveaway!
Jacob Bethell out of Hundred and could miss England’s Test series
All-rounder, 22, will not feature for Birmingham Phoenix and it is unclear if he’ll be fit to face Pakistan, while Tom Moody emerges as candidate to replace Brendon McCullum
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Foxy's comment begins "Even now I am not convinced...".
...the murder was terrorism"
The UK definition of Terrorism is an action or threat designed to influence the government or intimidate the public. Its purpose is to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.
We do not yet know if that was the motive for the killing.
Do at least accept that it was almost certainly an assassination? That’s what the scandal is. The police kept saying there was no evidence of it being a targeted attack.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Foxy's comment begins "Even now I am not convinced...".
...the murder was terrorism"
The UK definition of Terrorism is an action or threat designed to influence the government or intimidate the public. Its purpose is to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.
We do not yet know if that was the motive for the killing.
Do at least accept that it was almost certainly an assassination? That’s what the scandal is. The police kept saying there was no evidence of it being a targeted attack.
It is clear now that it was a targetted killing, but that was far from immediately obvious.
The retrospectoscope is only useful looking backwards rather than forwards.
I’m in Croyde this week so got Spotlight news on. They’ve just said that there were cameras in Anne Widdacombe’s house which caught the attack.
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
I guess your average Devon plod is more like the detectives in Hot Fuzz than Poirot. Why does it matter to you so much that it took them 48 hours to nick the alleged killer?
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
Been binge watching Criminal Minds, but it should not take an FBI Behavioural Analyst to profile that a body hit with a hammer 21 times is overkill and more than just a burglary, especially combined with the victimology.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
Even now I am not convinced the murder was terrorism, as there seems no attempt to terrorise others by the killing.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
Come now, foxy. One doesn't travel hundreds of miles to steal a wallet. Other motives for taking a wallet after killing someone are available.
The coppers didn't know the bad guy had driven 300 miles at that point.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
Foxy's comment begins "Even now I am not convinced...".
...the murder was terrorism"
The UK definition of Terrorism is an action or threat designed to influence the government or intimidate the public. Its purpose is to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.
We do not yet know if that was the motive for the killing.
Do at least accept that it was almost certainly an assassination? That’s what the scandal is. The police kept saying there was no evidence of it being a targeted attack.
It is clear now that it was a targetted killing, but that was far from immediately obvious.
It should have been to the police who had the evidence.
“Ed Miliband is known in Washington for all the wrong reasons. Ed Miliband is seen as an unreasonable ‘nut zero’ extremist who blocked North Sea oil production but was happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea.”
They're not wrong, to be fair.
a. They are wrong b. It's none of their business
So he's not blocked UK North Sea oil production?
Or he wasn't happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea?
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I suspect with every passing decade that this is less likely to be repeatable to be honest.
I would like, however, Yvette as new Health Sec, to set up a proper science driven inquiry into how we deal with the next virus rather than the lawyer-driven nonsense that was Hasslet's inquiry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUorvPu3Wj4
For instance, the Module 3 report discusses the mistakes over airborne droplets among many other things.
The impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on the healthcare systems of the United Kingdom
https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/documents/module-3-full-report/
But I've not read the whole thing and IANAE.
Where is Peter Wright and Lord .Mountbatten when you need them?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ed-miliband-foreign-secretary-trump-anger-white-house-b3018941.html
If so, why the fuck did the police allow the idea that it was a burglary develop? What an utter disgrace.
There is a bit of a youth revival, but the mainstays are old timers, like the aficionados that come to the IoW scooter rally on August bank holiday weekend.
They're not wrong, to be fair.
Edit: I see that I missed him scoring a century in Durham's victory over Derbyshire today.
An aggravated burglary is a reasonable first assumption in such a murder, in the absence of domestic violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida
Assassin: Ryan Wesley Routh
Motive: inchoate: he had numerous and contradictory political stances and a lengthy petty criminal record. Poor impulse control and enraged about the Ukraine War.
Pennsylvania (rally)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Pennsylvania
Assassin: Thomas Crooks
Motive: inchoate: he had numerous and contradictory online accounts, including antisemitism. Again, enraged, this time about everything
I don't think they had a coherent motive, other than i) being too online and ii) enraged about stuff.
Given the nature of the murder, and the nature of the victim, terrorism should have been the first thought.
There’s no way a narrative of wrong place at the wrong time would have been allowed to develop had a politician of a different political persuasion been brutally murdered.
Perhaps you confuse me with someone else.
My key take away, and I didn't like her very much, was that I seemed sadder than her party leader who posed with a wreath for a photo opportunity. What a hateful ****!
https://youtu.be/JMtaEASd2LI?si=ZqYzTXDuwTCDVXSk&t=1667
Was there another particularly prolific Brexit poster who posed as a pirate?
The only real issue is how long it took them to find the film of the attack. If it was professionally installed, I expect the installer would have contacted police very quickly.
We do not yet know the motive (if there was a clear one) and it looks to me that the offence of murder during the course of an aggravated burglary fits the known facts quite well.
https://youtu.be/fGcqkqB-pIE?is=Ou017yZXdzCvn0oV
And yet bugger all of them (i think 3) have had a job in the private sector let alone run a business.
I'm glad that she had that feeling of safety to leave her door unlocked. Better than living in fear and wondering if a murderer is about to attack you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVpR3Pk-r8
It's a shame they cancelled the Bill on ITV when they did.
I've watched Hampshire since my early teens. Happy to watch the Blast, as I did at the weekend. But no interest in manufactured franchises with no history.
Doesn’t pass the sniff test.
People travelling distance to do robberies have very specific high value target in mind and normally a team of them. Also murdering the people you are nicking from bad for business and Widdecombe wasn't exactly Duncan Fergurson where you fear for you life if he gets hold of you.
Beyond that I have no idea. Terrorism, politicially motivated, weird obsessive, has had a mental breakdown and a one off thing Widdecombe said on tv news or Ch5 over the edge in a fit of rage rather than necessarily been careful assassination of a poltical "enemy".
I have just gone through the Search Results for the phrase "back of the queue" which was 20 pages of results and I can not find a single comment [outraged or otherwise] by me under this username ever using that phrase. So its not something I'm especially outraged by.
And under my previous username, it was a phrase used 5 times
Regarding Covid vaccines (not Brexit) was 4 of those 5 times.
The only comment I ever made, in a Brexit context, never even mentioned Obama or any outrage, it was in reply to TSE saying "But we promised nowt but sunlit uplands. No Deal betrays the voters." The pirate replied "No we were promised doom, gloom, depression, emergency budgets, WWIII, a jungle in Kent, stuck in the back of the queue and more. If that comes to pass you get to say "told you so" not that you were betrayed."
So no, neither I nor any other pirate has ever been outraged about Obama's comments.
Surely we need to keep things going...
b. It's none of their business
Same as if you just had a government of just business people, I think their dealing of the NHS, education, etc might be suboptimal. I also think there are certain roles that do ideally require some specific life experiences e.g. Streeting at defence compared to an Al Cairns of Dan Jarvis seems suboptimal (and I think Streeting is very capable but military is proper foreign world).
Ideally I would hope to have an economist at CoE and somebody with good business experience at whatever they are calling business, technology, industrial mashup.
Labour's Rishi Sunak given bigger role for AI seems sensible.
LOL. Not half.
LOL. Not half.
Did three games this year. Would have done a couple more had we not been away.
I don't know why a I am defending the rozzers. I can't stand 'em.
https://youtu.be/E7CZIYY8GhM?si=vZdIxX82qHu1nHAt
The failure to acknowledge or think about changes on the evidence was terrible. If the Inquiry had spent as much as 1% of the time they spent on gotchas on that point it might have proved worthwhile.
Where they did mess up is even after they released him they still said no, we don't think anything politically motivated, only for the counter-terrorist lot to take over the case a few hours later. Other former police have said they messed that up, ruling out a motivate, rather than saying, we don't know at the moment, following lots of lines of inquiries.
Just check out the lneup. Good choice mind.
Anas Sarwar, the Scottish Labour leader, will be a minister in the Department for Business, Innovation, Science and Trade after accepting a place in the Lords
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/andy-burnham-anas-sarwar-starmer-minister-lords-3w7tkhpnz
It is pure politics to announce in a blaze of early days publicity this VAT cut and it is an easy one to message - "look, no more VAT on electricity" but the fiscal reality is it will slow the rise in cost of living for energy not halt or reverse it. Indeed, it may be utterly swamped if Trump continues to rage at the Mullahs.
Does political messaging triumph even when people actually - later on - see the actual bill of electrics?
They really needed to come out with something more solid once they’d seen the footage. The public down there had every right to be worried about the possibility of a killer being on the loose. But the police are more concerned with managing the narrative than making sure the public aren’t unnecessarily worried (obviously most sensible people wouldn’t be worried because they’d have done what humans do and worked out what had probably gone on).
TOTP was especially savaged
The UK definition of Terrorism is an action or threat designed to influence the government or intimidate the public. Its purpose is to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.
We do not yet know if that was the motive for the killing.
This can’t be attributed to unfavourable weather conditions .
There’s been none in the last ten days . I look forward to the media reporting on this , cue tumbleweed …….
All-rounder, 22, will not feature for Birmingham Phoenix and it is unclear if he’ll be fit to face Pakistan, while Tom Moody emerges as candidate to replace Brendon McCullum
https://www.thetimes.com/sport/cricket/article/jacob-bethell-hundred-knee-injury-england-cricket-7j32nn82f
The retrospectoscope is only useful looking backwards rather than forwards.
Or he wasn't happy for the UK to purchase Norway's fossil fuels from the North Sea?