I wonder if the more traditionally protestant areas of Scotland are less likely to be supporting Argentina tonight than the traditionally Catholic areas. Particularly those areas of Scotland with a strong British military tradition.
Simon Weston will be one Welshman supporting England?
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
If England don’t make the final, will it be Israel’s fault?
Idiotic comment. Israel are too busy committing Genocide to have an impact on the World Cup
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
If England don’t make the final, will it be Israel’s fault?
Idiotic comment. Israel are too busy committing Genocide to have an impact on the World Cup
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
Or the German managers fault of course
Or multicultuism
But as we are going to win it will be none of those things
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
If England don’t make the final, will it be Israel’s fault?
Idiotic comment. Israel are too busy committing Genocide to have an impact on the World Cup
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel won the 1948 war?
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
If England don’t make the final, will it be Israel’s fault?
Idiotic comment. Israel are too busy committing Genocide to have an impact on the World Cup
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel won the 1948 war?
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Was there ever a time the Falklands were under Argentine sovereignty except for spring 1982?
The Falklands were briefly under the sovereignty of a precursor colony/country to Argentina but, like the French, they abandoned the islands. I think the French left a plaque saying something like, "we've left, but this place still belongs to us."
It's one of the very few places colonised by anyone that was empty when the colonists arrived.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Was there ever a time the Falklands were under Argentine sovereignty except for spring 1982?
The Falklands were briefly under the sovereignty of a precursor colony/country to Argentina but, like the French, they abandoned the islands. I think the French left a plaque saying something like, "we've left, but this place still belongs to us."
It's one of the very few places colonised by anyone that was empty when the colonists arrived.
And a little known factoid is the name "Malvinas" harks back to that brief French presence - from the French "Les Malouines", meaning "of St. Malo".
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
If England don’t make the final, will it be Israel’s fault?
Idiotic comment. Israel are too busy committing Genocide to have an impact on the World Cup
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel won the 1948 war?
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
Considering we've had it for two hundred years I doubt that's the only reason we wanted it.
And self-determination means the people living there should decide.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
Presumably, Ed Miliband wouldn’t allow anyone to drill anyway.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
Considering we've had it for two hundred years I doubt that's the only reason we wanted it.
And self-determination means the people living there should decide.
AIUI we also wanted it as a base close to Antarctica.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
I don’t think that’s true. Self determination and all that - the Islanders want to be British. British territory was attacked, the invaders were evicted.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
I've just got back from the shops (couldn't watch) and my wife has turned on the telly. She knows nothing about football, but she just said, "The Argentinians appear to be playing very badly. Are they allowed to push players without getting told off?"
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
Considering we've had it for two hundred years I doubt that's the only reason we wanted it.
And self-determination means the people living there should decide.
One reason is that it gives the UK a seat at the table concerning Antarctica. As does South Georgia.
Note that Argentina invaded South Georgia as well, despite having no claim.
One of the aims of the Falklands war, for Argentina was to extinguish UK influence over Antarctica
The UK policy on the Antarctic has been to block development and leave it for science and nature, since at the current treaties were setup - the 1950s.
Argentina has a long standing policy of wanting to mine in Antarctica - see the efforts to emphasise their claims there. There’s quite a lot of mineral wealth there.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
When I was in Argentina I found out that Hector Bonzo's name is a curse, not because The General Belgrano sank under his watch but for the fact about twenty years later he said sinking The General Belgrano was a legitimate target and not a war crime.
In Argentina the myth is that we sank The General Belgrano to stop any peace talks and was a war crime.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Another go at electing a leader will take place tonight at a full council meeting scheduled from 5.30-9pm.
Nationally there are currently two councils who have failed to select a leader, ourselves and Oldham, all other impasses, in such as Birmingham, Cambridge, iirc Chelmsford have been resolved. It seems over a lot of the last few years politics has often mirrored across Standedge, albeit in different variants.
Previously, the two candidates, the Green leader of a coalition containing LD and varying Independents and the Reform leader have failed to gain the leadership. It is not an X vs Y FPTP vote, it takes the form of two votes, one for or against X (or abstain), one for or against Y.
The Conservative group of 9 councillors have voted against both Green and Reform candidates in previous meetings, defeating both and saying they will only support a grand coalition.
It seems a lot of the preliminary fact finding discussions and questions between the parties were conducted on copy to all councillor email chains with a view to transparency. (some of the article covering this, for which I bought a physical newspaper as a one off as the best form of reading - over £3!!! - is below).
It looks like the Reform leader Cllr Wood (of, "we don't know what an amendment is" fame) is quite a radical her way or no way type who stonewalls anything not entirely to her liking, and would have liked to meet opposing politicians individually and face-to-face (perhaps to pick off individual Conservatives) so refused to engage at all with the email discovery.
It was also the Reform group that refused to countenance any rescheduling around the England game.
She has lost two councillors since May, one went independent one resigned (by-election 13/8), so the numbers are:
Green 12 Varied Ind 14 LD 5 (31 supporting Green coalition)
Con 9
Reform 27 ex-Reform Ind 1 (27 or 28 supporting Reform)
I think tonight some of the business prior to the vote will debate a Reform motion along the lines of "per precedent largest party should be able to form a cabinet" (let us be in charge). There is a Tory suggested amendment that in the circumstances the leadership only be valid for 12 months (Cllr Wood - "in they did not consult me on this amendment").
The thought crosses my mind that the coalition grouping could all sign up as a single group and reveal they have greater numbers in a single political group than Reform, though I feel such a trick improbable.
It does look to be edging a little towards a 12 month Reform led council though, the alternative being a process whereby the auditors invite the government to ultimately take over running of the council. I'm not at all certain of that outcome though.
All will become clear, or not, tonight.
Eldest granddaughter works for Kirklees! She and her colleagues are keeping their heads down and getting on with their jobs.
Cllr Wood of Reform reported by Yorkshire Live as having been elected leader. Hopefully she's genned up a bit on things since May, though her stobbornness says not..
Kirklees are interesting on active travel, as I think @Taz will affirm.
They are way ahead from here; I'm currently having removal of a number of blatantly unlawful barriers NFAd for further action ("does not meet our criteria for taking further action"), so my thoughts are having to move on to potential legal strategy.
But I need enough rejections (I would prefer action, of course), and FOIs, to understand the attitude and the tool I need to skin this particular cat.
Every time I put in a report I explain the laws they are breaching, and suggest how it can be fixed sufficiently for now in half an hour or so of maintenance time, and that it is a litigation risk.
A friend who did this in York spent his first 3 years talking to the Council, by which time he had succeeded in having ONE bollard moved precisely THREE feet. And they only started moving when he went legal.
Unlikely.
I know nothing about the place. You’re probably confusing it with the North East.
My cycling, on my new e-bike, is limited to Durham, Gateshead and the Toon.
Aha. I had you in a slightly different area. Thanks.
Oh I remember - I think it was Pagan2 who was in that area.
You may well be right although I can complain all day about the crap effort to put a cycle path in Birtley in Gateshead which made it worse than before not better.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
Forcing the Falkland Islanders to become part of Argentina against their wishes is equal and opposite to forcing Scots to remain in the UK against their wishes if we wanted to separate.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
Forcing the Falkland Islanders to become part of Argentina against their wishes is equal and opposite to forcing Scots to remain in the UK against their wishes if we wanted to separate.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
Forcing the Falkland Islanders to become part of Argentina against their wishes is equal and opposite to forcing Scots to remain in the UK against their wishes if we wanted to separate.
To a degree but Scotland is part of a union with MPs at Westminster whereas the Falklands are an overseas territory
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Do you think it's Allah's will that Israel exists?
It has ceased to have a right to exist after its recent behaviour IMO.
Palestine has a right to exist free of Genocide though
Not an expert on Allah TBF
That's the problem.
Red herring by Islamophobes in all likely-hood hoping to distract from fact they support Genocide
I have literally just posted a comment of yours where you openly supported a genocide, probably without realising it admittedly, and you accuse me of being an Islamophobe and a genocide supporter. Both of which you know perfectly well are lies.
There are really no words for how bizarrely you come across in your epochal projection and a level of Irvingesque denial.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
I wonder who the 10% of voters are who have total contempt for the result of the free and fair referendum held in 2013 in which 99.80% voted in favour of remaining a UK overseas territory.
'Apropos of nothing: some polling on the Falkland Islands. 59% of Brits think that they should remain British just 10% think they no longer should be. Majorities of supporters of all parties bar the Greens (where a plurality do) think they should remain British'
Despite all the ramped up jingoism, we only wanted it for the oil in the seas around, and so far it’s all too deep and complicated to be worth extracting.
No, Falkland Islanders themselves wish to stay British
Forcing the Falkland Islanders to become part of Argentina against their wishes is equal and opposite to forcing Scots to remain in the UK against their wishes if we wanted to separate.
2014 referendum:
No 55% Yes 45%
It wasn’t me that flagged you. Now back to the soccerball.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
There are more folks of Italian descent in Argentina than anywhere else in the world. Save Italy
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
Argentinians are Italians who speak Spanish and think they are British
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
There are more folks of Italian descent in Argentina than anywhere else in the world. Save Italy
Also quite a lot of Welsh in Argentina - I'm pretty sure that's the largest Welsh diaspora:
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
Argentinians are Italians who speak Spanish and think they are British
Except for those right down by the penguins, who think they are Welsh
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
Argentinians are Italians who speak Spanish and think they are British
Except for those right down by the penguins, who think they are Welsh
If they were Welsh they'd be right down by the sheep.
This is amusing in the context of tonight's match. From 2023.
"Argentina’s far-right Milei angers Falklands veterans with Thatcher praise Presidential candidate calls former UK prime minister one of ‘the great leaders in the history of humanity’ during debate"
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That was nothing compared to what came before.
They are obsessed.
https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2077423326419366083?s=20
It will be the referees fault judging by comments on here
Or multicultuism
But as we are going to win it will be none of those things
Pretty thin pickings.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
It's one of the very few places colonised by anyone that was empty when the colonists arrived.
https://x.com/ged0407/status/2077480030385401942
We're goalless halfway through Wrestlemania 43
https://x.com/paddypower/status/2077480589695819938
It was rife.
@paddypower
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HALF-TIME! England 0-0 Argentina
We're goalless halfway through Wrestlemania 43.
Chef’s Kiss.
And self-determination means the people living there should decide.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Paul Robinson
Former England goalkeeper on BBC Radio 5 Live at Atlanta Stadium"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c77yp11e4r6t
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_referendum
* provided Argentina get through.
Note that Argentina invaded South Georgia as well, despite having no claim.
One of the aims of the Falklands war, for Argentina was to extinguish UK influence over Antarctica
The UK policy on the Antarctic has been to block development and leave it for science and nature, since at the current treaties were setup - the 1950s.
Argentina has a long standing policy of wanting to mine in Antarctica - see the efforts to emphasise their claims there. There’s quite a lot of mineral wealth there.
In Argentina the myth is that we sank The General Belgrano to stop any peace talks and was a war crime.
https://fathomjournal.org/fathom-report-institutionally-antisemitic-contemporary-left-antisemitism-and-the-crisis-in-the-british-labour-party/
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/investigation-into-antisemitism-in-the-labour-party.pdf#page100
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
No 55%
Yes 45%
There are really no words for how bizarrely you come across in your epochal projection and a level of Irvingesque denial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Falkland_Islands_sovereignty_referendum
(Apparently Stephen Fry ad libbed the line about Oxford being a dump quoted earlier. I never knew that, but it explains Atkinson's reaction.)
He’s playing a blinder.
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/2077459888637116684?s=61
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa
"Argentina’s far-right Milei angers Falklands veterans with Thatcher praise
Presidential candidate calls former UK prime minister one of ‘the great leaders in the history of humanity’ during debate"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/13/javier-milei-argentina-thatcher-praise-falklands-veterans