I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
'...turns out to be meh'? That's like saying Lara Croft turns out to be hot, or GTA turns out to be overpriced and seemingly locking full-game content behind an additional fee.
Perhaps Andy Burnham surprises on the upside.
Mr. Eagles, that is not impossible. I may also win the lottery.
Never underestimate the brilliance of an alumnus of the University of Cambridge.
I suspect we may have to adopt a minor exemption to the rule. English graduates beginning with B. Burgon has clearly carved out a niche exemption for himself, but I suspect we'll have to widen it to all the Bs.
Burnham will be the first English grad we have ever had as PM. We have had plenty of History, Law, PPE, Classics and Greats graduates of course and even a Geographer in Theresa May, a Chemistry grad in Thatcher and an Oriental Languages grad in Eden and Gladstone studied Mathematics alongside Classics getting a double first in both but never an English graduate entering No 10
Also Burnham will be the first Health Secretary to make it to Number 10 since the birth of the NHS. The last one was Neville Chamberlain.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
How? This applies only to the state pension. I’m not sure it makes all that much difference to wealthy pensioners who are already taxed on their personal pensions.
Indeed, net income after personal allowances is subject to tax. If pensioners want the pension could be capped to the personal allowance, but then they'd be forgoing 80% of the amount over the personal allowance.
Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.
If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left
I know you hate RAFAT, but they cost almost nothing in the context of the overall MoD budget, project fcukloads of soft power wherever they go abroad, and do a great job of helping with recruitment back at home.
Oh, and they put on a damn good show, which makes millions of people happy every year.
Worth every penny.
There's 120+ people on the America trip plus an A400m plus an Envoy for those that can't slum it flying commercial. The cost is not nothing.
The biggest misallocation of resources is making it a full time job for 9 QFIs/2nd tour pilots while the training pipeline is severely constipated and the RAF are now trying to hire, at vast expense because they don't come cheap, civvie QFIs.
I retain my view that NOM is just about hardcoded in. The Cons can't do it because of the LD block in the South. Reform can't do it because they just can't. Lab can, if Burnham can put their red wall / metro left / non racist floater coalition back together, but that's a tall order indeed even if (which it very well might) the economy upswings.
It's an interesting point - what does success at the next GE look like for Burnham. From here, any majority would look like a big win, but that's still a bad night for a hell of a lot of Labour MPs and a big step back from the win of Starmer (pbuh)
It's not all about seats. He gets years too, and space to act.
It might be better for him to have a majority of 60 and a mandate for his own programme than a dead landslide that proved totally useless for Starmer.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
It attacks the low income pensioners as there was no way of recovering tax from other incomes (as they didn't have any). Up until now SRP was less than tax allowance so by freezing it, they created a problem opportunity to tax SRP.
I know you hate RAFAT, but they cost almost nothing in the context of the overall MoD budget, project fcukloads of soft power wherever they go abroad, and do a great job of helping with recruitment back at home.
Oh, and they put on a damn good show, which makes millions of people happy every year.
Worth every penny.
There's 120+ people on the America trip plus an A400m plus an Envoy for those that can't slum it flying commercial. The cost is not nothing.
The biggest misallocation of resources is making it a full time job for 9 QFIs/2nd tour pilots while the training pipeline is severely constipated and the RAF are now trying to hire, at vast expense because they don't come cheap, civvie QFIs.
I thought there was a fucking war on?
Soft power is what you project when you can't manage hard power.
I know you hate RAFAT, but they cost almost nothing in the context of the overall MoD budget, project fcukloads of soft power wherever they go abroad, and do a great job of helping with recruitment back at home.
Oh, and they put on a damn good show, which makes millions of people happy every year.
Worth every penny.
There's 120+ people on the America trip plus an A400m plus an Envoy for those that can't slum it flying commercial. The cost is not nothing.
The biggest misallocation of resources is making it a full time job for 9 QFIs/2nd tour pilots while the training pipeline is severely constipated and the RAF are now trying to hire, at vast expense because they don't come cheap, civvie QFIs.
I though there was a fucking war on?
Would you agree that the reported £30m annual RAFAT operational cost is close to accurate?
That’s 0.05% of the £65bn defence budget, and projects huge soft power wherever they go.
The Reds run for a year, for a third of the cost of that one F-35 that the Navy dumped in the sea a couple of years ago because they forgot to remove the engine cover.
I know we’ll need to replace the airframes around 2030, but that will be a one-off £100m or so capex.
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
'...turns out to be meh'? That's like saying Lara Croft turns out to be hot, or GTA turns out to be overpriced and seemingly locking full-game content behind an additional fee.
Perhaps Andy Burnham surprises on the upside.
Mr. Eagles, that is not impossible. I may also win the lottery.
Never underestimate the brilliance of an alumnus of the University of Cambridge.
I suspect we may have to adopt a minor exemption to the rule. English graduates beginning with B. Burgon has clearly carved out a niche exemption for himself, but I suspect we'll have to widen it to all the Bs.
Burnham will be the first English grad we have ever had as PM. We have had plenty of History, Law, PPE, Classics and Greats graduates of course and even a Geographer in Theresa May, a Chemistry grad in Thatcher and an Oriental Languages grad in Eden and Gladstone studied Mathematics alongside Classics getting a double first in both but never an English graduate entering No 10
Also Burnham will be the first Health Secretary to make it to Number 10 since the birth of the NHS. The last one was Neville Chamberlain.
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
'...turns out to be meh'? That's like saying Lara Croft turns out to be hot, or GTA turns out to be overpriced and seemingly locking full-game content behind an additional fee.
Perhaps Andy Burnham surprises on the upside.
Mr. Eagles, that is not impossible. I may also win the lottery.
Never underestimate the brilliance of an alumnus of the University of Cambridge.
I suspect we may have to adopt a minor exemption to the rule. English graduates beginning with B. Burgon has clearly carved out a niche exemption for himself, but I suspect we'll have to widen it to all the Bs.
Burnham will be the first English grad we have ever had as PM. We have had plenty of History, Law, PPE, Classics and Greats graduates of course and even a Geographer in Theresa May, a Chemistry grad in Thatcher and an Oriental Languages grad in Eden and Gladstone studied Mathematics alongside Classics getting a double first in both but never an English graduate entering No 10
Also Burnham will be the first Health Secretary to make it to Number 10 since the birth of the NHS. The last one was Neville Chamberlain.
The first English graduate PM ever and the first Cambridge graduate PM since Baldwin and the first former Health Secretary PM since Chamberlain, quite a moment for Burnham. Also the second comprehensive educated PM after Liz Truss
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
'...turns out to be meh'? That's like saying Lara Croft turns out to be hot, or GTA turns out to be overpriced and seemingly locking full-game content behind an additional fee.
Perhaps Andy Burnham surprises on the upside.
Mr. Eagles, that is not impossible. I may also win the lottery.
Never underestimate the brilliance of an alumnus of the University of Cambridge.
I suspect we may have to adopt a minor exemption to the rule. English graduates beginning with B. Burgon has clearly carved out a niche exemption for himself, but I suspect we'll have to widen it to all the Bs.
Burnham will be the first English grad we have ever had as PM. We have had plenty of History, Law, PPE, Classics and Greats graduates of course and even a Geographer in Theresa May, a Chemistry grad in Thatcher and an Oriental Languages grad in Eden and Gladstone studied Mathematics alongside Classics getting a double first in both but never an English graduate entering No 10
Also Burnham will be the first Health Secretary to make it to Number 10 since the birth of the NHS. The last one was Neville Chamberlain.
The first English graduate PM ever and the first Cambridge graduate PM since Baldwin and the first former Health Secretary PM since Chamberlain, quite a moment for Burnham. Also the second comprehensive educated PM after Liz Truss
Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.
If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left
World class 'havering' as the Scots would say
Rees Mogg to unite the right is a weird dream of yours
Which Tory leader can you see being acceptable enough to Reform voters after a Farage resignation to vote Tory again then other than Mogg? If Burnham wins the next general election and Labour is re elected as polls now suggest may occur assuming Burnham replaces Starmer as PM and Farage and Kemi both resign the leaderships of Reform and the Tories and say Rees Mogg, who won back his old seat helped by squeezing Reform voters, replaces Kemi as Tory leader and Zia Yusuf replaces Farage as Reform leader I could easily see the Reform vote collapsing to the Tories even if a few Tories who voted for Kemi go Labour or LD and a few Reform voters go Restore as even the Mogg isn't hardline enough for them
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.
The other one is where his Mrs is involved in a deal with Manchester Council where Burnham has completely removed himself from any say in the decision or management of the deal.
The really are desperate but that also shows how well a none story can be built up into a scandal it never was.
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
Yes, and the answer was that it was a bloody stupid idea! I think Putin has months left. He should stay away from any windows.
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
The Ukranians aren’t blowing up local petrol stations, they’re blowing up refinieries and storage tanks.
The last couple of weeks have really brought the war home to the Muscovites, and they’re starting to notice that Putin’s messed it up.
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
Sure but the issue is that the Tories are almost wiped out in swathes of the country, how do they regenerate there even if Reform and Labour aren't seen as good options?
The Tory King Over The Water (Ben Houchen) returns to claim his throne?
Is he from Accrington Stanley? More like a baronet over the duck pond, than the King over the Water.
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
'...turns out to be meh'? That's like saying Lara Croft turns out to be hot, or GTA turns out to be overpriced and seemingly locking full-game content behind an additional fee.
Perhaps Andy Burnham surprises on the upside.
Mr. Eagles, that is not impossible. I may also win the lottery.
Never underestimate the brilliance of an alumnus of the University of Cambridge.
I suspect we may have to adopt a minor exemption to the rule. English graduates beginning with B. Burgon has clearly carved out a niche exemption for himself, but I suspect we'll have to widen it to all the Bs.
Burnham will be the first English grad we have ever had as PM. We have had plenty of History, Law, PPE, Classics and Greats graduates of course and even a Geographer in Theresa May, a Chemistry grad in Thatcher and an Oriental Languages grad in Eden and Gladstone studied Mathematics alongside Classics getting a double first in both but never an English graduate entering No 10
Also Burnham will be the first Health Secretary to make it to Number 10 since the birth of the NHS. The last one was Neville Chamberlain.
The first English graduate PM ever and the first Cambridge graduate PM since Baldwin and the first former Health Secretary PM since Chamberlain, quite a moment for Burnham. Also the second comprehensive educated PM after Liz Truss
Fascinating
May went to a grammar school which became a comprehensive only when she was in the sixth form
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
The Ukranians aren’t blowing up local petrol stations, they’re blowing up refinieries and storage tanks.
The last couple of weeks have really brought the war home to the Muscovites, and they’re starting to notice that Putin’s messed it up.
I can see Crimea becoming an uninhabited wasteland but I don’t see Ukraine taking it back anytime soon.
On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.
If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.
If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.
One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…
The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.
See you in 2.5 years time
Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
Tories need to ask the right question though.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
“If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
The Ukranians aren’t blowing up local petrol stations, they’re blowing up refinieries and storage tanks.
The last couple of weeks have really brought the war home to the Muscovites, and they’re starting to notice that Putin’s messed it up.
I can see Crimea becoming an uninhabited wasteland but I don’t see Ukraine taking it back anytime soon.
Once the scumbag Russians fcuk off, the Ukranians will absolutely redevelop it.
There’s going to be billions of FDI after the war, it’s a lovely part of the world.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.
If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.
If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.
One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…
The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.
See you in 2.5 years time
Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
Tories need to ask the right question though.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
“If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
Opposition politicians almost always call for an election when they can, and almost always will. No surprise, on either side.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
Yes, because they will be earning over the tax free allowance threshold, so will be treated the same as everyone else. It's really a hit on all lower-paid taxpayers, due to the TFA being repeatedly frozen
We have previously discussed the need for PAYE-alike as state pensions approached the personal allowance for the simple reason HMRC does not have the capacity to absorb an extra 10 million self-assessments. Probably Rachel Reeves lurks here under the name Leon who I notice has not posted since the PM's and Chancellor's positions came under threat.
Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.
Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.
Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
The Ukranians aren’t blowing up local petrol stations, they’re blowing up refinieries and storage tanks.
The last couple of weeks have really brought the war home to the Muscovites, and they’re starting to notice that Putin’s messed it up.
I can see Crimea becoming an uninhabited wasteland but I don’t see Ukraine taking it back anytime soon.
Without irrigation, that's pretty much what it is.
Without being able to base the Black Sea Fleet (RIP) there, is there much point in it? They aren't going to get to Odesa.
I retain my view that NOM is just about hardcoded in. The Cons can't do it because of the LD block in the South. Reform can't do it because they just can't. Lab can, if Burnham can put their red wall / metro left / non racist floater coalition back together, but that's a tall order indeed even if (which it very well might) the economy upswings.
It's an interesting point - what does success at the next GE look like for Burnham. From here, any majority would look like a big win, but that's still a bad night for a hell of a lot of Labour MPs and a big step back from the win of Starmer (pbuh)
It's not all about seats. He gets years too, and space to act.
It might be better for him to have a majority of 60 and a mandate for his own programme than a dead landslide that proved totally useless for Starmer.
Sure. I wasn't thinking in the context of going now, really, just about how weird expectations will be in 2029, from the viewpoint of now, at least.
Going now would upset a lot of MPs, but would also be a away to cut short the career and ambitions of people like Streeting, potentially. Could also be a useful threat against rebellious backbenchers - fall in line or I'll seek a clear mandate (and many of you will lose your jobs). Courageous though!
Also, I don't think it's so much that the landslide proved useless for Starmer as Starmer proved useless for the landslide.
We should kick Australia out of the Commonwealth and stop sharing a monarch with them.
The Americans in Boston and Miami are absolutely loving the tens of thousands of Scots, who had a brilliant party, drank their bars dry, but generally behaved themselves really well.
In fact there’s remarkably few reports of any incidents involving the various European fan bases in the US, perhaps the price of the trip filters out the less savoury fans that travel within Europe?
Russia’s now following the Hamas playbook, installing military equipment on civilian buildings. Air defence systems on the top of an apartment block in Moscow.
On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.
If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.
If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.
One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…
The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.
See you in 2.5 years time
Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
Tories need to ask the right question though.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
“If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
Opposition politicians almost always call for an election when they can, and almost always will. No surprise, on either side.
Sure, and journos have column inches to fill. Its incredibly tedious though.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
Morning all.
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine. Although I haven't for a while now.
We should kick Australia out of the Commonwealth and stop sharing a monarch with them.
The Americans in Boston and Miami are absolutely loving the tens of thousands of Scots, who had a brilliant party, drank their bars dry, but generally behaved themselves really well.
In fact there’s remarkably few reports of any incidents involving the various European fan bases in the US, perhaps the price of the trip filters out the less savoury fans that travel within Europe?
I don't really have a strong opinion on Burnham aside from the saviour of Labour stuff is overblown, but I enjoyed this metaphor (shop soiled ex-display rather than new kitchen obvs).
The Lucky Heron @LuckyHeronSay · 19h Burnham is 'picking' fuck all. He’s being installed like a new kitchen.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
Yes, because they will be earning over the tax free allowance threshold, so will be treated the same as everyone else. It's really a hit on all lower-paid taxpayers, due to the TFA being repeatedly frozen
We have previously discussed the need for PAYE-alike as state pensions approached the personal allowance for the simple reason HMRC does not have the capacity to absorb an extra 10 million self-assessments. Probably Rachel Reeves lurks here under the name Leon who I notice has not posted since the PM's and Chancellor's positions came under threat.
Nah, cant be her. A small percentage of her budget predictions do actually happen.
On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.
If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.
If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.
One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…
The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.
See you in 2.5 years time
Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
Tories need to ask the right question though.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
“If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
Opposition politicians almost always call for an election when they can, and almost always will. No surprise, on either side.
Not just Elections, but By Elections, Resignations & Enquiries.
What about Rules that says;
if you call for a resignation and they resign you need to too or if they change Party’s and you want a By Election you need to do the same.
If you resign your seat you need to pay the salary of the new MP for the rest of the Parliament.
Oh and if you call for a Enquiry and they have an Enquiry your Party has to pay for it!
I am a big backer of a Tory majority. No idea how we get there, in quite a short space of time, but after all it is the natural order of British politics and there are strong reasons to oppose the other options.
Reform implode and Burnham proves to be meh.
Sure but the issue is that the Tories are almost wiped out in swathes of the country, how do they regenerate there even if Reform and Labour aren't seen as good options?
The Tory King Over The Water (Ben Houchen) returns to claim his throne?
Is he from Accrington Stanley? More like a baronet over the duck pond, than the King over the Water.
Mosquito over the latrine? (No offence intended to the River Tees)
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
Morning all.
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine. Although I haven't for a while now.
£1k trading allowance open to all not just pensioners.
I know you hate RAFAT, but they cost almost nothing in the context of the overall MoD budget, project fcukloads of soft power wherever they go abroad, and do a great job of helping with recruitment back at home.
Oh, and they put on a damn good show, which makes millions of people happy every year.
Worth every penny.
The problem with the;
“It’s a tiny part of the total cost!”
Is that it avoids the question;
But is it a good use of money!
Opportunity cost: What else would we get for that and would it be better spent there?
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
We should kick Australia out of the Commonwealth and stop sharing a monarch with them.
The Americans in Boston and Miami are absolutely loving the tens of thousands of Scots, who had a brilliant party, drank their bars dry, but generally behaved themselves really well.
In fact there’s remarkably few reports of any incidents involving the various European fan bases in the US, perhaps the price of the trip filters out the less savoury fans that travel within Europe?
Against many expectations, the World Cup has been a brilliant spectacle so far.
Tonight’s interesting match is going to be Egypt vs Iran in Seattle.
This is the match that, before the draw, FIFA has designated as the “Pride Month” match. The two teams involved have no interest in that framing, and the TV producers have been doing their level best to avoid the Iran crowds in their previous matches, who are mostly American Iranians waving the old “Sun and Lion” flag from 1979.
I know you hate RAFAT, but they cost almost nothing in the context of the overall MoD budget, project fcukloads of soft power wherever they go abroad, and do a great job of helping with recruitment back at home.
Oh, and they put on a damn good show, which makes millions of people happy every year.
Worth every penny.
There's 120+ people on the America trip plus an A400m plus an Envoy for those that can't slum it flying commercial. The cost is not nothing.
The biggest misallocation of resources is making it a full time job for 9 QFIs/2nd tour pilots while the training pipeline is severely constipated and the RAF are now trying to hire, at vast expense because they don't come cheap, civvie QFIs.
I though there was a fucking war on?
Would you agree that the reported £30m annual RAFAT operational cost is close to accurate?
Absolutely not because it doesn't reflect the true cost of not using those resources to do something more important.
F-35 instructor posts are running at about 50% filled because every front line squadron needs one as well the OCU. If we sacked off RAFAT and made those nine pilots F-35 QFIs is that a net gain for the defensive posture of the UK? Yes.
Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.
If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left
World class 'havering' as the Scots would say
Rees Mogg to unite the right is a weird dream of yours
Which Tory leader can you see being acceptable enough to Reform voters after a Farage resignation to vote Tory again then other than Mogg? If Burnham wins the next general election and Labour is re elected as polls now suggest may occur assuming Burnham replaces Starmer as PM and Farage and Kemi both resign the leaderships of Reform and the Tories and say Rees Mogg, who won back his old seat helped by squeezing Reform voters, replaces Kemi as Tory leader and Zia Yusuf replaces Farage as Reform leader I could easily see the Reform vote collapsing to the Tories even if a few Tories who voted for Kemi go Labour or LD and a few Reform voters go Restore as even the Mogg isn't hardline enough for them
Is Rees Mogg that popular among Reform voters? The stereotypical Reform voter is a builder from Barnsley - he may not abhor Rees Mogg in the same way the liberal left do but I can't imagine him being wildly enthused either.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
Morning all.
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine. Although I haven't for a while now.
£1k trading allowance open to all not just pensioners.
Apologies; neglected that. You're right; otherwise e-Bay and the like couldn't operate.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
???? It is simply deducting the tax due. It is not a hit on wealthy pensioners nor people just receiving state pension. The tax is exactly the same.
How would you suggest collecting the tax then? Make everyone fill out a tax return? It is simply the application of PAYE, which hasn't been needed before on the state pension (PAYE does currently apply to people getting pensions from elsewhere, just the same as people in employment. You get a P6 and tax is deducted from your pension payments by the pension provider in accordance with your P6 figure).
This is only happening because the state pension is going to pass the tax allowance. How on earth would you propose collecting it then?
In any case the Cons don't really want an election now, do they. They need time for Reform to fall away.
No, they absolutely don't. It would just be a straightforward Labour v Fukker deathmatch with the tories consigned to the Spam folder of history and Kemi going back to her old job of sorting out the toner for the big printer at the Spectator.
They just want to cause Labour and Supermanc some political chafing by asking for one.
Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.
If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left
World class 'havering' as the Scots would say
Rees Mogg to unite the right is a weird dream of yours
Which Tory leader can you see being acceptable enough to Reform voters after a Farage resignation to vote Tory again then other than Mogg? If Burnham wins the next general election and Labour is re elected as polls now suggest may occur assuming Burnham replaces Starmer as PM and Farage and Kemi both resign the leaderships of Reform and the Tories and say Rees Mogg, who won back his old seat helped by squeezing Reform voters, replaces Kemi as Tory leader and Zia Yusuf replaces Farage as Reform leader I could easily see the Reform vote collapsing to the Tories even if a few Tories who voted for Kemi go Labour or LD and a few Reform voters go Restore as even the Mogg isn't hardline enough for them
Is Rees Mogg that popular among Reform voters? The stereotypical Reform voter is a builder from Barnsley - he may not abhor Rees Mogg in the same way the liberal left do but I can't imagine him being wildly enthused either.
I think Rees-Mogg would be an absolutely splendid choice for next Tory leader.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
Yes, because they will be earning over the tax free allowance threshold, so will be treated the same as everyone else. It's really a hit on all lower-paid taxpayers, due to the TFA being repeatedly frozen
We have previously discussed the need for PAYE-alike as state pensions approached the personal allowance for the simple reason HMRC does not have the capacity to absorb an extra 10 million self-assessments. Probably Rachel Reeves lurks here under the name Leon who I notice has not posted since the PM's and Chancellor's positions came under threat.
There seems to have been a few 'building blocks' installed by Reeves. Bringing the SRP into the tax net would also allow the charging of NI should they wish. The Renters Rights Act* has a drag effect on rental increases which should slow down or even reverse housing allowances.
* In a bit of karma, if Reeves loses access to #11 she'll have a problem getting her property back so may have to flat share with Ange in Brighton.
Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.
If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left
World class 'havering' as the Scots would say
Rees Mogg to unite the right is a weird dream of yours
Which Tory leader can you see being acceptable enough to Reform voters after a Farage resignation to vote Tory again then other than Mogg? If Burnham wins the next general election and Labour is re elected as polls now suggest may occur assuming Burnham replaces Starmer as PM and Farage and Kemi both resign the leaderships of Reform and the Tories and say Rees Mogg, who won back his old seat helped by squeezing Reform voters, replaces Kemi as Tory leader and Zia Yusuf replaces Farage as Reform leader I could easily see the Reform vote collapsing to the Tories even if a few Tories who voted for Kemi go Labour or LD and a few Reform voters go Restore as even the Mogg isn't hardline enough for them
Is Rees Mogg that popular among Reform voters? The stereotypical Reform voter is a builder from Barnsley - he may not abhor Rees Mogg in the same way the liberal left do but I can't imagine him being wildly enthused either.
A large % of Reform voters were non-voters according to polling studies (33%), also that largest % of lost Labour votes is to DK / no vote.
Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat. Changes w/ 2023.
There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
In any case the Cons don't really want an election now, do they. They need time for Reform to fall away.
No, they absolutely don't. It would just be a straightforward Labour v Fukker deathmatch with the tories consigned to the Spam folder of history and Kemi going back to her old job of sorting out the toner for the big printer at the Spectator.
They just want to cause Labour and Supermanc some political chafing by asking for one.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
So would hit those only receiving a state pension too then
???? It is simply deducting the tax due. It is not a hit on wealthy pensioners nor people just receiving state pension. The tax is exactly the same.
How would you suggest collecting the tax then? Make everyone fill out a tax return? It is simply the application of PAYE, which hasn't been needed before on the state pension (PAYE does currently apply to people getting pensions from elsewhere, just the same as people in employment. You get a P6 and tax is deducted from your pension payments by the pension provider in accordance with your P6 figure).
This is only happening because the state pension is going to pass the tax allowance. How on earth would you propose collecting it then?
Oh and just so you are aware @HYUFD, when the P6 figure is calculated by HMRC, for those receiving pensions in addition to state pensions, the state pension is included in the calculation, so that the tax free allowance is reduced accordingly (by taking into account the state pension), when the pension provider pays the pension under PAYE.
The state pension is NOT tax free and never has been.
The Government is simply thinking of making the appropriate change so that it continues to make people's lives easier once the state pension passes the tax allowance.
This is not some rip off. Nothing is changing as far as the amount of tax is concerned.
If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.
Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
In any case the Cons don't really want an election now, do they. They need time for Reform to fall away.
No, they absolutely don't. It would just be a straightforward Labour v Fukker deathmatch with the tories consigned to the Spam folder of history and Kemi going back to her old job of sorting out the toner for the big printer at the Spectator.
They just want to cause Labour and Supermanc some political chafing by asking for one.
LOL. May I use that?
Fucking go for it. I stole it out of a Mother Jones article.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
Morning all.
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine. Although I haven't for a while now.
£1k trading allowance open to all not just pensioners.
The conv I had with HMRC was about savings income, not trading
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.
If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.
If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.
One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…
The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.
See you in 2.5 years time
Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
Tories need to ask the right question though.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
“If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
Opposition politicians almost always call for an election when they can, and almost always will. No surprise, on either side.
Not just Elections, but By Elections, Resignations & Enquiries.
What about Rules that says;
if you call for a resignation and they resign you need to too or if they change Party’s and you want a By Election you need to do the same.
If you resign your seat you need to pay the salary of the new MP for the rest of the Parliament.
Oh and if you call for a Enquiry and they have an Enquiry your Party has to pay for it!
Peter.
If an MP changes party then I think it is fair enough that there should be a by election. Many voters vote for the rosette not the chest its on. I don't see why calling for such a thing should mean your seat also needs a by election. That's just weird.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat. Changes w/ 2023.
There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:
Scores: RUK 7 +3 Grn 4 nc Lab 4 -2 C 2 +1 PC 2 nc Ind 1 nc LD 1 -2 3 results to come
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
*It likes to mark its spot, like a dog, but it uses oil not wee.
Enough to eff up a first coat. Driving a load of 9t vehicles over a base laid on coastal swamp, known to be subsidence prone, is likely sub-optimal, too.
The Democrats need to be careful her and get there messaging right;
It’s not Israel that we are against but the way it’s current Government as acting!
We love America as much or more than Trump we just don’t agree with what he’s doing!
Peter.
It feels to me like a zeitgeist shift after the ugliness of the last two years. Another angle but a similar story. I wonder if AndyB got his timing just right? The polling is extraordinary
Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension
Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say
Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.
Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.
It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.
But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.
Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
Morning all.
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine. Although I haven't for a while now.
£1k trading allowance open to all not just pensioners.
The conv I had with HMRC was about savings income, not trading
Sounds like the 1K savings interest income allowance, which is for all basic rate taxpayers ?
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat. Changes w/ 2023.
There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:
Scores: RUK 7 +3 Grn 4 nc Lab 4 -2 C 2 +1 PC 2 nc Ind 1 nc LD 1 -2 3 results to come
Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.
Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.
Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
No, its still hypocrisy, even if you can respond and say that you are following precedent.
Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
Don't think our 1962 Mini leaked. But memory can be a lying jade
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!
Eh, what’s up Doc @rabbitSZN2 · 24 Jun Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*
We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
Don't think our 1962 Mini leaked. But memory can be a lying jade
We had a 1962 mini traveller for our first car and it was fabulous
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If pensioners want the pension could be capped to the personal allowance, but then they'd be forgoing 80% of the amount over the personal allowance.
“Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
The biggest misallocation of resources is making it a full time job for 9 QFIs/2nd tour pilots while the training pipeline is severely constipated and the RAF are now trying to hire, at vast expense because they don't come cheap, civvie QFIs.
I thought there was a fucking war on?
It might be better for him to have a majority of 60 and a mandate for his own programme than a dead landslide that proved totally useless for Starmer.
This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
problemopportunity to tax SRP.'I'm sorry, this has never happened to me before'
That’s 0.05% of the £65bn defence budget, and projects huge soft power wherever they go.
The Reds run for a year, for a third of the cost of that one F-35 that the Navy dumped in the sea a couple of years ago because they forgot to remove the engine cover.
I know we’ll need to replace the airframes around 2030, but that will be a one-off £100m or so capex.
We are a Parliamentary democracy with elections either when the Government calls one or via a vote of no confidence.
Yes it’s theatre to some extent, but the hypocracy should still be exposed.
The really are desperate but that also shows how well a none story can be built up into a scandal it never was.
The last couple of weeks have really brought the war home to the Muscovites, and they’re starting to notice that Putin’s messed it up.
https://x.com/kent_police/status/2070190719336165751
There’s going to be billions of FDI after the war, it’s a lovely part of the world.
Without being able to base the Black Sea Fleet (RIP) there, is there much point in it? They aren't going to get to Odesa.
Going now would upset a lot of MPs, but would also be a away to cut short the career and ambitions of people like Streeting, potentially. Could also be a useful threat against rebellious backbenchers - fall in line or I'll seek a clear mandate (and many of you will lose your jobs). Courageous though!
Also, I don't think it's so much that the landslide proved useless for Starmer as Starmer proved useless for the landslide.
https://x.com/noelreports/status/2070402806545056242
IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine.
Although I haven't for a while now.
All the publicity about ICE and the rest prior probably acts as a strong disincentive to anyone misbehaving
The Lucky Heron
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Burnham is 'picking' fuck all. He’s being installed like a new kitchen.
https://x.com/LuckyHeronSay/status/2070142103217168583?s=20
What about Rules that says;
if you call for a resignation and they resign you need to too or if they change Party’s and you want a By Election you need to do the same.
If you resign your seat you need to pay the salary of the new MP for the rest of the Parliament.
Oh and if you call for a Enquiry and they have an Enquiry your Party has to pay for it!
Peter.
22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.
In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉
So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'
https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20
Eh, what’s up Doc
@rabbitSZN2
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Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?
Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.
The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.
The paint failed exactly as predicted.
By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.
Surface prep 101.
Six innocent people arrested.
https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20
Certainly not the Tories, or Reform.
“It’s a tiny part of the total cost!”
Is that it avoids the question;
But is it a good use of money!
Opportunity cost: What else would we get for that and would it be better spent there?
Peter.
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/2070130173140197409
As is the Norwegian rowing song.
https://x.com/swearingsport/status/2070099689714987025
Against many expectations, the World Cup has been a brilliant spectacle so far.
Tonight’s interesting match is going to be Egypt vs Iran in Seattle.
This is the match that, before the draw, FIFA has designated as the “Pride Month” match. The two teams involved have no interest in that framing, and the TV producers have been doing their level best to avoid the Iran crowds in their previous matches, who are mostly American Iranians waving the old “Sun and Lion” flag from 1979.
F-35 instructor posts are running at about 50% filled because every front line squadron needs one as well the OCU. If we sacked off RAFAT and made those nine pilots F-35 QFIs is that a net gain for the defensive posture of the UK? Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izrj3Rfm7o4
How would you suggest collecting the tax then? Make everyone fill out a tax return? It is simply the application of PAYE, which hasn't been needed before on the state pension (PAYE does currently apply to people getting pensions from elsewhere, just the same as people in employment. You get a P6 and tax is deducted from your pension payments by the pension provider in accordance with your P6 figure).
This is only happening because the state pension is going to pass the tax allowance. How on earth would you propose collecting it then?
Nor in Hertsmere:
Election Maps UK
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Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:
🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)
Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
Changes w/ 2023.
They just want to cause Labour and Supermanc some political chafing by asking for one.
It’s not Israel that we are against but the way it’s current Government as acting!
We love America as much or more than Trump we just don’t agree with what he’s doing!
Peter.
* In a bit of karma, if Reeves loses access to #11 she'll have a problem getting her property back so may have to flat share with Ange in Brighton.
It's a spectacular piece of branding.
The state pension is NOT tax free and never has been.
The Government is simply thinking of making the appropriate change so that it continues to make people's lives easier once the state pension passes the tax allowance.
This is not some rip off. Nothing is changing as far as the amount of tax is concerned.
*It likes to mark its spot, like a dog, but it uses oil not wee.
Teignbridge DC, Dawlish:
LD 45.3%
Reform 29.5%
Green 15%
Tory 10%
Tories on 10%, in Teignbridge!
Apparently an increased LD vote share, although I don't have the numbers
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-motorcade-reflecting-pool/
Peter.
There are instantly recognisable images.
🔶 LDM: 45.3% (+6.6)
➡️ RFM: 29.5% (New)
🌍 GRN: 15.1% (+3.8)
🌳 CON: 10.1% (-12.8)
No Ind (-27.1) as previous.
Liberal Democrat HOLD.
Changes w/ 2023.
Scores:
RUK 7 +3
Grn 4 nc
Lab 4 -2
C 2 +1
PC 2 nc
Ind 1 nc
LD 1 -2
3 results to come
Driving a load of 9t vehicles over a base laid on coastal swamp, known to be subsidence prone, is likely sub-optimal, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvHlQPTVlXQ
Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
Where as the deliverables on the 2024 manifesto will remain the framework for the Burnham government.
It might lead to some questions on tax and spend but those should be reasonably answerable.
https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/