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The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

The original series opened after World War Two, taking inspiration from opposition to Nazi ideology and depicting itself as a series of companions, using science and logic to solve multiple problems that threatened the whole planet, although that usually translated to Britain and more usually London.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,043
    Honourable first.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,206
    Burnham meanwhile will take Labour firmly back to the old Labour socialist left, even more so than Brown did. The decision of Streeting not to challenge him for the Labour leadership means New Labour is for now dead and we are back to a tax and spend and nationalise Labour government like we had under Harold Wilson in the late 1960s and mid 1970s
  • eekeek Posts: 34,154
    HYUFD said:

    Burnham meanwhile will take Labour firmly back to the old Labour socialist left, even more so than Brown did. The decision of Streeting not to challenge him for the Labour leadership means New Labour is for now dead and we are back to a tax and spend and nationalise Labour government like we had under Harold Wilson in the late 1960s and mid 1970s

    If voters want sweeties (spending) someone has to pay for it
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,661
    The new threads are coming almost as thick and fast as new Prime Ministers.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,043

    The new threads are coming almost as thick and fast as new Prime Ministers.

    Outside of election nights my record is about 8.

    The weekend after the referendum, when the shadow cabinet mass resigned to try and force Corbyn out.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,969
    Alex Burghart on R5 just now, hoping for an election

    He married Miss Marple
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    OT, bravo Viewcode
    Seeing Labour through a Dr who lens, and now I can't un-see it.

  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    It's amazing just how wrong people can be...

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,699
    The old series failed because Keir had no political sense and no programme, thanks to the Ming vase strategy. The new series has a regenerated PM with political sense but still no programme, or at least not one he has announced.

    We know Burnham wants to be more collegiate, and in fairness this should avoid wasting political capital on ramming through unpopular measures followed by swift u-turns, but in service of what, exactly? Like Starmer, Burnham is a blank canvas on which 400 Labour MPs are projecting their different and perhaps even incompatible visions.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,527
    Thank you for the header. Umm .....

  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656
    I know no one who is sad at the cancellation.

    No one at all

    Or Dr Who.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656
    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, bravo Viewcode
    Seeing Labour through a Dr who lens, and now I can't un-see it.

    Cybermen were better under Labour.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,699

    Alex Burghart on R5 just now, hoping for an election

    He married Miss Marple

    Never trust a man who can spell prosopography correctly at the first attempt.
    https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-4113.2004.00058.x
  • BobSykesBobSykes Posts: 53
    Hooray.. Finally managed to find a way to view and post comments again!

    Mixed feelings on Burnham. Much as i don't greatly like him based on his previous in government and as my metro mayor, and think the obvious success i see every day in Manchester owes much to those he's piggybacked on to, i think he'll be a reasonable PM and considerably better than Starmer. As a working class origins Lancastrian, and Manchester based for two decades myself, i identify more with Burnham than i could with Starmer or any of his recent predecessors. So kind of want him to succeed, to a point, even if I'm moderately centre right and would obviously prefer to have a sensible one nation Tory government in power.

    They need to get him started now though if they aren't having a contest it would be ludicrous to wait until July or later if it's a coronation.

    Interesting times....
  • BobSykesBobSykes Posts: 53
    Typical, finally manage to get into the comments and a new thread starts whilst I'm typing! 😀
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    Is "Last Christmas" a christmas movie?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,017
    edited 1:00PM
    OK, to all those who are bemused. The coincidence of Dr Who being cancelled and Starmer resigning at the same time forced me to write the article: one doesn't pick the articles, the articles pick you, and you have to write them otherwise they stick in your head. As this was an article I wrote really quickly (around 30 mins) I won't include it in the Measurements or Ideas series, and I don't have a problem with it being slagged off.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    Taz said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, bravo Viewcode
    Seeing Labour through a Dr who lens, and now I can't un-see it.

    Cybermen were better under Labour.
    Controversial view - The Doctor Falls is the best cyberman story.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,474
    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    viewcode said:

    OK, to all those who are bemused. The coincidence of Dr Who being cancelled and Starmer resigning at the same time forced me to write the article: one doesn't pick the articles, the articles pick you, and you have to write them otherwise they stick in your head. As this was an article I wrote really quickly (around 30 mins) I won't include it in the Measurements or Ideas series, and I don't have a problem with it being slagged off.

    I disagree a bit - I don't think Dr Who has really been cancelled. Its different from after Survival when I felt there was no hope.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    edited 1:10PM
    Andy_JS said:

    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330

    I am all for peaceful protest, but Steve Bray has been overstepping the line for donkeys years now. He really needs to be served with a banning order from Westminister.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656

    Taz said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, bravo Viewcode
    Seeing Labour through a Dr who lens, and now I can't un-see it.

    Cybermen were better under Labour.
    Controversial view - The Doctor Falls is the best cyberman story.
    At least you didn’t say Nightmare in Silver !!

    The Doctor Falls is good. Went to see it in Durham when the Beeb did screenings in December prior to the TV screening.

    They cut it as he started to regenerate into Whittaker.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    edited 1:08PM
    The Doctor Who comparison, I just can't shake it...

    Doctor - PM or LoTO you get the idea
    1st (Hartnell) - Attlee
    2nd (Troughton) - Wilson
    3rd (Pertwee) - Heath
    4th (Tom Baker) - Thatcher
    5th (Davison) - Major
    6th (Colin Baker) - Hague (yes, I know not PM)
    7th (McCoy) - Kinnock
    Wilderness Years - Labour 1992-97
    8th (McGann) - John Smith
    War Doctor - Blair in opposition
    9th (Eccleston) - New Labour government (1997-2010)
    10th (Tennant) - Cameron/Coalition
    11th (Smith) - Cameron
    12th (Capaldi) - May
    13th (Whittaker) - Corbyn (not PM, but the timing and fandom dynamics fit frighteningly well)
    14th (Tennant redux) -Starmer before election
    15th (Gatwa) - Starmer government
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, bravo Viewcode
    Seeing Labour through a Dr who lens, and now I can't un-see it.

    Cybermen were better under Labour.
    Controversial view - The Doctor Falls is the best cyberman story.
    At least you didn’t say Nightmare in Silver !!

    The Doctor Falls is good. Went to see it in Durham when the Beeb did screenings in December prior to the TV screening.

    They cut it as he started to regenerate into Whittaker.
    Probably for the best.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,206
    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    Burnham meanwhile will take Labour firmly back to the old Labour socialist left, even more so than Brown did. The decision of Streeting not to challenge him for the Labour leadership means New Labour is for now dead and we are back to a tax and spend and nationalise Labour government like we had under Harold Wilson in the late 1960s and mid 1970s

    If voters want sweeties (spending) someone has to pay for it
    The middle class and wealth creators and rich of course. Some of whom will no doubt move to Dubai, Monaco, Switzerland, Florida and the Bahamas and Singapore while Burnham is in Downing Street
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656

    Is "Last Christmas" a christmas movie?
    The Dr Who story or the Wham track ?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,615
    The public gave Starmer a massive majority.

    What do they know?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    Taz said:

    Is "Last Christmas" a christmas movie?
    The Dr Who story or the Wham track ?
    The Movie.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Christmas_(film)
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,066

    Andy_JS said:

    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330

    I am all for peaceful protest, but Steve Bray has been overstepping the line for donkeys years now. He really needs to be served with a banning order from Westminister.
    It isn't peaceful. But that is his sole raison d'etre.

    I agree that his anti social behaviour adds nothing to debate or protest and should be curtailed permanently.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    You can't trust the public with anything though. Brexit, Boris, Starmer.....
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656
    Sweeney74 said:

    The Doctor Who comparison, I just can't shake it...

    Doctor - PM or LoTO you get the idea
    1st (Hartnell) - Attlee
    2nd (Troughton) - Wilson
    3rd (Pertwee) - Heath
    4th (Tom Baker) - Thatcher
    5th (Davison) - Major
    6th (Colin Baker) - Hague (yes, I know not PM)
    7th (McCoy) - Kinnock
    Wilderness Years - Labour 1992-97
    8th (McGann) - John Smith
    War Doctor - Blair in opposition
    9th (Eccleston) - New Labour government (1997-2010)
    10th (Tennant) - Cameron/Coalition
    11th (Smith) - Cameron
    12th (Capaldi) - May
    13th (Whittaker) - Corbyn (not PM, but the timing and fandom dynamics fit frighteningly well)
    14th (Tennant redux) -Starmer before election
    15th (Gatwa) - Starmer government

    Gatwa was as excellent in Dr Who terms as the Truss premiership was for the Tories.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    edited 1:12PM

    Andy_JS said:

    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330

    I am all for peaceful protest, but Steve Bray has been overstepping the line for donkeys years now. He really needs to be served with a banning order from Westminister.
    It isn't peaceful. But that is his sole raison d'etre.

    I agree that his anti social behaviour adds nothing to debate or protest and should be curtailed permanently.
    I think about how aggressively he harasses politicians. The anti-vax conspiracy nutters got in a lot of trouble for basically doing the same to the likes of Witty.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,632
    I can’t get excited about children’s TV
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,184
    Burnham has ever mastered the paparazzi car photo challenge. Is there nothing he can't do?

    image
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,615
    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    If you get excited about it, then it is not in the silo of children's TV...
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,066
    Sweeney74 said:

    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
    A veritable classic. One of my favourites
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,176

    Burnham has ever mastered the paparazzi car photo challenge. Is there nothing he can't do?

    image

    Who is the chick with the blond moustache?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,474

    Sweeney74 said:

    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
    A veritable classic. One of my favourites
    Remember watching it aged about 5 and it was a bit scary.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,116
    Anyone left who has not kissed Andy's ring?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,116

    Andy_JS said:

    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330

    I am all for peaceful protest, but Steve Bray has been overstepping the line for donkeys years now. He really needs to be served with a banning order from Westminister.
    It isn't peaceful. But that is his sole raison d'etre.

    I agree that his anti social behaviour adds nothing to debate or protest and should be curtailed permanently.
    I'm not sure that's necessary but his obsessiveness doesn't seem healthy.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,017
    Ok, for all those who were wondering

    "...As the 1980s wore on it began to falter. It could not compete with flashier imported ideas from America that captured the imagination in a way the older, British based series could not. Attempts at attracting attention by recruiting celebrities mitigated the problem but its verbose showrunner could not prevent it collapsing in the figures..."
    • Dr Who: showrunner John Nathan Turner. Camp. Used stunt casting (Beryl Reid! Richard Briers!) to keep numbers up. Failed
    • Labour: showrunner Neil Kinnock. Verbose. Used celebrities (Tracey Ullman! Billy Bragg!) to keep numbers up. Failed
    "...The 1990s saw numerous attempts to revive and invigorate the series, but an attempt under a new showrunner in the early 90s to revive the series still failed..."
    • Dr Who: showrunner Philip Sayer. Well regarded. Attempted American reboot. Failed
    • Labour: showrunner John Smith. Well regarded. Attempted a British reboot. Died prematurely
    "…and a new showrunner promptly arrived. Imbued by a love for the old series but well aware of the problems that were killing it, he rewrote it from top to bottom, inventing an event making the previous lore irrelevant, reformatting it, and using new money to recast the series as flashy, audience friendly, with a smidgen of social change but not enough to scare the horses. It took off and became incredibly popular, even inspiring Americans in the late 2000s/early 2010s as the series expanded worldwide..."
    • Dr Who: showrunner Russell T Davies. Well regarded. Invented the Time War to eliminate old lore. Succeeded wildly. Big in America
    • Labour: showrunner Tony Blair. Well regarded. Invented New Labour to eliminate old lore. Succeeded wildly. Big in America
    "...Then another showrunner took over, with greater emphasis on equality and female stars, and despite early optimism and enthusiasm the figures fell still further. It could no longer survive as the 2020s dawned..."
    • Dr Who: showrunner Chris Chibnall. Mediocre. Recast the Doctor as a woman. Invented the Timeless Child which was hated. Failed.
    • Labour: showrunner Jeremy Corbyn. Mediocre. Returned Labour to its old roots, far too late. Introduced antisemitism which was hated. Failed.
    "...It became apparent that the showrunner simply didn’t know what he was doing, and with an approach based on meaningless tweets, generated content, and bodged resurrections of old villains, now irrelevant, just made things worse..."
    • Dr Who: showrunner Russell T Davies. Mediocre. Inspired hope of change, but veered from plot to plot. Tweeted a lot, pointlessly. Fired.
    • Labour: showrunner Keir Starmer. Mediocre. Inspired hope of change, but veered from speech to speech. Tweeted a lot, pointlessly. Fired.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,474

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,043
    Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of rape.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,176
    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Soft treatment ? See Nigel Farage.

    Although the Farage example is more pernicious. Starmer gets free glasses from a Labour Peer and generates a national media scandal. Farage takes £5m from a crypto billionaire, speaks in favour of crypto and not a sausage. Two tier media.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,969
    Currygate’s Chicken Keirma ran away
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,904

    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Soft treatment ? See Nigel Farage.

    Although the Farage example is more pernicious. Starmer gets free glasses from a Labour Peer and generates a national media scandal. Farage takes £5m from a crypto billionaire, speaks in favour of crypto and not a sausage. Two tier media.
    Free the sausages!
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656
    Scott_xP said:

    @jessicaelgot.bsky.social‬

    High farce delivered in the way only British politics can - a Sky News helicopter tracking Burnham's train down to Euston, only to follow the wrong cab once he gets in.

    The train was late too.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,474
    "DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of all sex abuse charges including one count of rape"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwy2qp32d1pt
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,656
    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Who funds this piece of crap ?
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,066
    Andy_JS said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
    A veritable classic. One of my favourites
    Remember watching it aged about 5 and it was a bit scary.
    I'm hoping to direct a stage adaptation soon
  • TresTres Posts: 3,701
    *bungs a tenner to steve bray for all the entertainment he's provided today*
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    edited 1:34PM
    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Who funds this piece of crap ?
    At one point he was absolutely raking in the donations, with really rich people like Charlie Mullins funding him with a very nice gaff in Westminister allegedly costing £4.5k A WEEK.

    Anybody still funding him should now be well aware they funding somebody who is mentally ill.
  • It really is surreal to have a man who is literally arriving in Parliament be about to be voted into be our next PM
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727

    Andy_JS said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
    A veritable classic. One of my favourites
    Remember watching it aged about 5 and it was a bit scary.
    I'm hoping to direct a stage adaptation soon
    Same play that the RSC did a couple of years ago?
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,769
    edited 1:34PM
    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Who funds this piece of crap ?
    Last time the Met nicked him for noise issues they lost. Why would they do it again and paint a target on their backs?

    https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-steven-bray-judgment/
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,769
    Andy_JS said:
    Do Labour, as a party, have the money to run a GE?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,577
    Andy_JS said:

    "DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of all sex abuse charges including one count of rape"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwy2qp32d1pt

    Eleanor Donaldson also found to have committed the acts that she was accused of, in the trial of the facts conducted when it was decided she was not fit to stand trial.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2026/0622/1579576-jeffrey-donaldson-court/

    Sentencing for Jeffrey Donaldson not until September 25th and he has been remanded in custody. Told by the judge to expect a lengthy sentence.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    SNP clown shoe of an MP doing the performative Sovereign People of Scotland bit again...
    utterly embarrassing
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Who funds this piece of crap ?
    Last time the Met nicked him for noise issues they lost. Why would they do it again and paint a target on their backs?

    https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-steven-bray-judgment/
    Incompentence....

    His trial previously heard Mr Bray had told police their map, illustrating where he could not use the speakers, was incorrect. Body-worn footage featured Mr Bray, wearing a yellow and blue top hat, repeatedly telling police "you've got the wrong map".

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr4ner79y5lo
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476

    Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of rape.

    even worse - rape of a child.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    Andy_JS said:
    Sounds more like one of the "classic" Telegraph stories...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476

    Taz said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.

    If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?
    Who funds this piece of crap ?
    At one point he was absolutely raking in the donations, with really rich people like Charlie Mullins funding him with a very nice gaff in Westminister allegedly costing £4.5k A WEEK.

    Anybody still funding him should now be well aware they funding somebody who is mentally ill.
    And all he had to do was look a complete tool 8 h a day. Nice work if you can get it.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,066
    Sweeney74 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    IanB2 said:

    I can’t get excited about children’s TV

    Not even The Box of Delights?
    (another Christmas tradition)
    A veritable classic. One of my favourites
    Remember watching it aged about 5 and it was a bit scary.
    I'm hoping to direct a stage adaptation soon
    Same play that the RSC did a couple of years ago?
    That's the one. It started out in Wilton's Music Hall a few years before
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,969
    The Life Of Burnham

    He’s not the Messiah!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,422
    Watching Andy swearing in what a difference in charisma and personality

    The country needs to wish him well and I hope he is collegiate but at the same time take Farage and Lowe and Polanski head on
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,774
    Andy_JS said:
    Kemi might get what she doesn't really wish for?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,422

    Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of rape.

    even worse - rape of a child.
    Horrible
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,440
    Sweeney74 said:

    SNP clown shoe of an MP doing the performative Sovereign People of Scotland bit again...
    utterly embarrassing

    The Palace of Westminster being usually devoid of performance, of course.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,043
    Sweeney74 said:

    SNP clown shoe of an MP doing the performative Sovereign People of Scotland bit again...
    utterly embarrassing

    I need to do a piece on how awesome Sir Keir Starmer was in crushing the SNP in 2024.

    Starmer truly is Malleus ScotNatorum.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,095
    Is that the same public who voted for Brexit and who voted against crappy AV? That public?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,184
    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2069050613304840403

    BREAKING

    The Brexit reset summit with the EU - which was scheduled for July 22nd - has been postponed

    Antonia Costa, the president of the European Council, says that he hopes that Starmer's successor will provide 'continuity'

    This was going to be a big moment for Starmer, but is now heading into the middle distance. Over to Andy Burnham...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,474

    Andy_JS said:
    Sounds more like one of the "classic" Telegraph stories...
    Only true if Burnham finds himself with a 15% lead in the polls within 6 months.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,095
    Andy_JS said:

    "Lewis Goodall
    @lewis_goodall

    Steve Bray blasting Ode to Joy, ruining nationally historic moments like this for us and posterity, is a complete disgrace. A yob."

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2068975930270179330

    Lewis channels Alex from A Clockwork Orange 🤣
  • If Burnham gets above 30% of the vote, he'll have to be tempted by a GE surely? Even if he loses 50 seats, he'll have his own mandate into the 2030s.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,734
    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,043
    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    A flat cap and a whippet.

    I am also a professional Northerner.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,008
    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    £114,000 for Mayor of Manchester.

    There will shortly be an election…
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,614
    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,638
    edited 2:04PM

    Sir Jeffrey Donaldson found guilty of rape.

    even worse - rape of a child.
    Horrible
    18 sexual offences against two victims who were children at the time of the abuse: one count of rape, 13 counts of indecent assault and four counts of gross indecency.

    Hopefully a long sentence awaits.

    I also assume he will be stripped of his knighthood and Privy Council position. Quickly hopefully.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476

    If Burnham gets above 30% of the vote, he'll have to be tempted by a GE surely? Even if he loses 50 seats, he'll have his own mandate into the 2030s.

    If there was a maximum of two years to go I could see the logic but the lesson from history (T. May) says don't. He has a huge majority and time. Three years is not to be sniffed at. Get things turned around (or simply following their course) and hope reform implodes in time for 2028-29.

    He'd be ridiculed if he went early, lost the majority or worse lost power to try to gain two more years than he already has.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,476
    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
    My three year old son loves black pudding, although disturbingly he calls it black willy.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,176

    Andy_JS said:
    Sounds more like one of the "classic" Telegraph stories...
    Yes, I heard the interview where he misspoke as the Mayor rather than the MP and I didn't read the response like the Telegraph has. Wishful thinking?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,017

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
    My three year old son loves black pudding, although disturbingly he calls it black willy.
    Tell him what it is made out of. He'll never touch it again.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,982
    edited 2:06PM

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2069050613304840403

    BREAKING

    The Brexit reset summit with the EU - which was scheduled for July 22nd - has been postponed

    Antonia Costa, the president of the European Council, says that he hopes that Starmer's successor will provide 'continuity'

    This was going to be a big moment for Starmer, but is now heading into the middle distance. Over to Andy Burnham...

    He doesn't even get his big swansong legacy international summit. Politics is a tough game.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 727
    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
    My three year old son loves black pudding, although disturbingly he calls it black willy.
    Tell him what it is made out of. He'll never touch it again.
    Who wouldn't want a breakfast including:
    Chicken ovulation.
    Slices of coagulated pig blood mixed with fat and oats.
    Ground-up pig scraps stuffed into cleaned-out intestine.
    Salt-cured pig abdomen.
    Fungi fried in animal fat.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,095

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    A flat cap and a whippet.

    I am also a professional Northerner.
    You're good, Yorkshireman, but you're not that good. You could be magnificent!
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,158
    edited 2:08PM

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2069050613304840403

    BREAKING

    The Brexit reset summit with the EU - which was scheduled for July 22nd - has been postponed

    Antonia Costa, the president of the European Council, says that he hopes that Starmer's successor will provide 'continuity'

    This was going to be a big moment for Starmer, but is now heading into the middle distance. Over to Andy Burnham...

    He doesn't even get his big swansong legacy international summit. Politics is a tough game.
    Starmer will get the NATO summit in Ankara.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,638
    edited 2:09PM

    If Burnham gets above 30% of the vote, he'll have to be tempted by a GE surely? Even if he loses 50 seats, he'll have his own mandate into the 2030s.

    If there was a maximum of two years to go I could see the logic but the lesson from history (T. May) says don't. He has a huge majority and time. Three years is not to be sniffed at. Get things turned around (or simply following their course) and hope reform implodes in time for 2028-29.

    He'd be ridiculed if he went early, lost the majority or worse lost power to try to gain two more years than he already has.
    It would be pointless. Three years is enough time for him to show his intent even if he has not achieved everything he wants. There is no way he would maintain such a massive majority after a snap election and that would just make it all the harder to achieve anything given how divided his party already is. He needs to just get on with the job and show the electorate he is capable of making things significantly better - not least defence.

    I have no doubt I will hate most of what he proposes but we have had enough of the short termism that has blighted the last few administrations. We need some big thinking and some genuine change.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,638
    Sweeney74 said:

    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
    My three year old son loves black pudding, although disturbingly he calls it black willy.
    Tell him what it is made out of. He'll never touch it again.
    Who wouldn't want a breakfast including:
    Chicken ovulation.
    Slices of coagulated pig blood mixed with fat and oats.
    Ground-up pig scraps stuffed into cleaned-out intestine.
    Salt-cured pig abdomen.
    Fungi fried in animal fat.
    Mmmmmm. Yes please.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,614
    Sweeney74 said:

    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    All the black pudding you can eat. And a whippet.
    My three year old son loves black pudding, although disturbingly he calls it black willy.
    Tell him what it is made out of. He'll never touch it again.
    Who wouldn't want a breakfast including:
    Chicken ovulation.
    Slices of coagulated pig blood mixed with fat and oats.
    Ground-up pig scraps stuffed into cleaned-out intestine.
    Salt-cured pig abdomen.
    Fungi fried in animal fat.
    And a tomato
  • BobSykesBobSykes Posts: 53
    Sandpit said:

    dixiedean said:

    I'd like to apply to be a professional Northerner. What's the salary?

    £114,000 for Mayor of Manchester.

    There will shortly be an election…
    I cant imagine it being anyone other than Bev Craig, a certain continuity Burnham candidate!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Craig

    Much as I loathe Reform and Farage I'd be tempted by them if they find a sensible candidate just to shake it up a bit and be rid of the pro bus, anti car and anti green belt Burnhamism for a bit. But with SV now in place, it's going to be Bev.
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