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Sir Keir Starmer’s transformation in to Boris Johnson could soon be complete – politicalbetting.com

Andy Burnham is plotting to trigger a “tsunami” of ministerial resignations to try to force Sir Keir Starmer out of No10 if he refuses to quit.https://t.co/IrPjvxrei0

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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,052
    edited 6:47PM
    He'll announce this week. Doesn't matter if members or the public really were with him, the MPs don't want him anymore.
  • I think he’ll resign early this week and Burnham will be PM by the end of June.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,946

    Starmer resigns next week, Burnham PM by end of June?

    Only 2 working days for that to be viable now, given a 5 day nomination timetable is required.

    Since it is so close, I suspect that Starmer will make it to his second anniversary now, but not much further. If an organised handover can be agreed that lets him save face by making that anniversary, that's probably good enough for Burnham and he can use a couple of weeks to plan out his new Cabinet and Ministerial appointments so that when he does make it he can hit the ground running.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117
    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,053
    5-1 to Netherlands!
  • Starmer resigns next week, Burnham PM by end of June?

    Only 2 working days for that to be viable now, given a 5 day nomination timetable is required.

    Since it is so close, I suspect that Starmer will make it to his second anniversary now, but not much further. If an organised handover can be agreed that lets him save face by making that anniversary, that's probably good enough for Burnham and he can use a couple of weeks to plan out his new Cabinet and Ministerial appointments so that when he does make it he can hit the ground running.
    I had a punt on exit by end of this quarter at 42.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117
    These Dutch are formidable. 20 on winning on BFX.

    I remember the Dutch side in 74 and 78 for the first World Cups that I remember. The best side to never win it.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,946
    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    If he announces his resignation Monday, then it is [just about] viable. 5 working days for nominations takes us to the 29th. Burnham announced as leader on the 29th, goes to see the King either on the 29th or 30th.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577
    International football seems to have become significantly more high scoring than many of the games I remember from years gone by. I wonder why that might be?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    I know, but if Burnham is the only one with the nominations then it could happen quickly.

    Remember 2016 when on Monday morning Andrea Leadsom quit the leadership race and on Wednesday Theresa May became PM.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    I am watching England giving Scotland a real hiding in the world cup.

    Women's T20 world cup.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    What formalities?

    Starmer could announce he is resigning immediately with effect from the next morning and the Palace will arrange for Starmer to see the King and resign and Mr Madchester to follow an hour later to be asked to form a new administration.*

    The formality is whether Burnham's team can persuade Starmer to have an honourable exit with a timetable over the summer allowing Burnham time to prepare and meet civil service etc etc.

    * I'm assuming the King is in the UK and near to London etc.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117

    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    If he announces his resignation Monday, then it is [just about] viable. 5 working days for nominations takes us to the 29th. Burnham announced as leader on the 29th, goes to see the King either on the 29th or 30th.
    I think it more likely that Starmer will want to get the sense of the PLP before deciding, so realistically midweek at the earliest. He is a nororious ditherer.

    Also, Burnham is not yet an MP.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,413
    IanB2 said:

    International football seems to have become significantly more high scoring than many of the games I remember from years gone by. I wonder why that might be?

    Because they know how unpopular boring 0-0 matches are to audiences.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Starmer no longer commands the House and should go on Monday imho.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Greens launch their Madchester election mayor campaign with Candidate Geraldine Coggins.

    Polanski says the 'luck of the irish' will help.



    https://x.com/TheGreenParty/status/2068393738162905103
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,133
    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/2068402807124705631

    EXCL: Sir Keir Starmer knows “things are bad” and is on the brink of resigning as Prime Minister.

    His mood has shifted since Andy Burnham's thumping victory over Reform.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,984
    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I have just worked out that my phone can be used as a radio. I'm trying to snooze through the heat whilst listening to Radio 4. It's oddly pleasant.

    Why has it taken you 15 years to work that out, lol.
    I used to read books instead of listen. It wasn't until listening to YouTube on earphones whilst working that I realised I could do both. Since I now have a tablet, there was never any need to use my phone for listening. But when my wifi went down on Makerfield election night, the need for a non-wifi-based medium became pressing, so I checked my phone and laptops to see if they had a radio. The phone did, and that's how it started.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Coggins calls for a Manchester that works for all the boroughs not just the city centre.

    Interesting.

    Are the Greens planning a bit of a London-style Doughnut campaign?

    Any Manchester PBers on the ground?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I have just worked out that my phone can be used as a radio. I'm trying to snooze through the heat whilst listening to Radio 4. It's oddly pleasant.

    Why has it taken you 15 years to work that out, lol.
    I used to read books instead of listen. It wasn't until listening to YouTube on earphones whilst working that I realised I could do both. Since I now have a tablet, there was never any need to use my phone for listening. But when my wifi went down on Makerfield election night, the need for a non-wifi-based medium became pressing, so I checked my phone and laptops to see if they had a radio. The phone did, and that's how it started.
    This is why I have two SIM cards in my phone, if one internet goes down I have a backup.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,151
    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    No harm in giving Starmer his full two years. He earned that from his big win in 2024. It is a shame he has subsequently been so ineffective.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117

    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    I know, but if Burnham is the only one with the nominations then it could happen quickly.

    Remember 2016 when on Monday morning Andrea Leadsom quit the leadership race and on Wednesday Theresa May became PM.
    Yes, but nominations need to be open for several days. It happened quickly for May only if you ignore the nomination period.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968

    Coggins calls for a Manchester that works for all the boroughs not just the city centre.

    Interesting.

    Are the Greens planning a bit of a London-style Doughnut campaign?

    Any Manchester PBers on the ground?

    Yes.

    It's a weird argument, a few days ago it was the 30th anniversary of the IRA bomb in Manchester, there's been a lot of coverage about all the regeneration in Manchester.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/2068402807124705631

    EXCL: Sir Keir Starmer knows “things are bad” and is on the brink of resigning as Prime Minister.

    His mood has shifted since Andy Burnham's thumping victory over Reform.

    Get the feeling this now down to him and his wife having a heart-to-heart about the reality of his position over the weekend with Morgan dialing in every half hour saying 'fight on'.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Ohh. I like that one.

    7/1
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,635

    Coggins calls for a Manchester that works for all the boroughs not just the city centre.

    Interesting.

    Are the Greens planning a bit of a London-style Doughnut campaign?

    Any Manchester PBers on the ground?

    Yes.

    It's a weird argument, a few days ago it was the 30th anniversary of the IRA bomb in Manchester, there's been a lot of coverage about all the regeneration in Manchester.
    To be entirely fair to Andy Burnham, this is exactly what he has been calling for.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Foxy said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

    Indeed, as I said it's a cheeky bet.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,413
    England women 200/5 off 20 overs v Scotland.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/live/c33lr82pk4pt#LiveReporting
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Another poll, another poll showing Reform's lead over Labour narrowing.

    🚨 Latest Opinium @ObserverUK poll 🚨

    Reform UK remains ahead on 27%, despite falling 2 points this week.

    ➡️ Reform 27% (-2)
    🌹 Labour 20% (n/c)
    🌳 Conservatives 18% (+1)
    🌍 Greens 14% (n/c)
    🔶 Lib Dems 12% (+1)


    https://x.com/OpiniumResearch/status/2068408544945418496
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,536
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    I have just worked out that my phone can be used as a radio. I'm trying to snooze through the heat whilst listening to Radio 4. It's oddly pleasant.

    Why has it taken you 15 years to work that out, lol.
    I used to read books instead of listen. It wasn't until listening to YouTube on earphones whilst working that I realised I could do both. Since I now have a tablet, there was never any need to use my phone for listening. But when my wifi went down on Makerfield election night, the need for a non-wifi-based medium became pressing, so I checked my phone and laptops to see if they had a radio. The phone did, and that's how it started.
    The more digitally advanced PB followers may be interested to know that the other device that receives radio is a radio. A very small portable FM/AM 2AA battery one in an indispensable device as an adjunct to all the smarter stuff. They cost a tenner.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577
    edited 7:11PM

    Foxy said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

    Indeed, as I said it's a cheeky bet.
    It’s a very Leonesque bet, which you will be able to dine out on if you win, and no-one will remember if, rather more likely, you don’t.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,102
    edited 7:11PM

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,343
    Foxy said:

    These Dutch are formidable. 20 on winning on BFX.

    I remember the Dutch side in 74 and 78 for the first World Cups that I remember. The best side to never win it.

    Winners of the Netherlands/japan group play runners-up of Brazil/Morrocco group and vice versa. Tasty prospects. Would Brazil be happier avoiding this rampant Dutch team?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,133
    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…
  • eekeek Posts: 34,104
    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    NI has the slight advantage of both being inside and outside the EU..
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117
    IanB2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

    Indeed, as I said it's a cheeky bet.
    It’s a very Leonesque bet, which you will be able to dine out on if you win, and no-one will remember if, rather more likely, you don’t.
    It is a much more interesting test of the Germans than Curacau.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,343

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Ohh. I like that one.

    7/1
    Germany and BTTS please to complete my double today.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,052

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 9,039
    edited 7:14PM

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    I’m going for 2-2. Mind you I thought NED/SWE would be 2-2 as well.

    On a related note I like that if Sweden are Playing Denmark at home the score in the corner spells out SWEDEN and the bits missed off the ends of their names, the “den” and “mark” make up the other team.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 9,039
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    Apparently Sunak is in a volcanic rage about Starmer going against him and winning. And Truss is in a volcanic rage about, well everything.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    Its DH ignore
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,677
    boulay said:

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    Apparently Sunak is in a volcanic rage about Starmer going against him and winning. And Truss is in a volcanic rage about, well everything.
    Truss' recent behaviour is strongly reminiscent of Karl Marx's bafflement expressed in the 18e Brumaire de Louis Napoleon.

    Only rather less elegantly expresssed.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,151

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    How does Hodges know that? It might be accurate but it is also absolute guesswork.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765

    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    What formalities?

    Starmer could announce he is resigning immediately with effect from the next morning and the Palace will arrange for Starmer to see the King and resign and Mr Madchester to follow an hour later to be asked to form a new administration.*

    The formality is whether Burnham's team can persuade Starmer to have an honourable exit with a timetable over the summer allowing Burnham time to prepare and meet civil service etc etc.

    * I'm assuming the King is in the UK and near to London etc.

    The King is still in Manchester I think
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 1,000

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    And Starmer should have sacked the lot of the rebels and gone to the country if need be.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    edited 7:21PM
    Ok. Canary (yes I know) interview Green Manchester Mayor candidate and she immediately bangs on about "all the boroughs" and not "just the centre".

    This sounds like a electoral plan.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577
    edited 7:25PM
    Andy_JS said:

    IanB2 said:

    International football seems to have become significantly more high scoring than many of the games I remember from years gone by. I wonder why that might be?

    Because they know how unpopular boring 0-0 matches are to audiences.
    That I doubt is the explanation.

    Apparently it’s the highest scoring opening set of WC matches since WC 1958.

    In the absence of any wisdom or insight from fellow PB’ers, I can only offer AI’s suggestions which are some mix of tactical resets by managers during the hydration breaks (apparently many of the goals are scored in the ten minutes after), the unpredictable nature in flight of the Adidas Trionda ball, defensive errors (obvs), fatigue due to the heat and travel distances and extended stoppage time, and the expanded 48 team format allowing in lower quality teams for the expert nations to beat.

    Some of these ideas seem more likely than others. The last one sounds convincing until you consider some of the matches between ‘top’ teams that were surprisingly high scoring, including England v Croatia and Netherlands v Sweden.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577
    edited 7:23PM
    ..
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 4,169
    Streets* are saying SKS is resigning.


    *Twitter
  • Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    What formalities?

    Starmer could announce he is resigning immediately with effect from the next morning and the Palace will arrange for Starmer to see the King and resign and Mr Madchester to follow an hour later to be asked to form a new administration.*

    The formality is whether Burnham's team can persuade Starmer to have an honourable exit with a timetable over the summer allowing Burnham time to prepare and meet civil service etc etc.

    * I'm assuming the King is in the UK and near to London etc.

    The King is still in Manchester I think
    Your Green prediction was crap.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,912
    Starmer should say "I'll go in return for cabinet position X" and just hang about to annoy Burnham.
  • Jesus Farage ratings are tanking
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765
    Unpopular said:

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    And Starmer should have sacked the lot of the rebels and gone to the country if need be.
    You are Baldrick and i claim my £5
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,459
    edited 7:26PM
    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117
    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    Car production in Sunderland is half of what it was a decade ago, despite government bungs.

    Remania was always going to do better than Leaverstan, because it was the economically successful areas of the country that voted Remain.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Tom Harwood
    @tomhfh

    It’s always ‘fight on, fight to win’ until it isn’t.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117

    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking

    I can think of 5 million reasons why.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765

    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    What formalities?

    Starmer could announce he is resigning immediately with effect from the next morning and the Palace will arrange for Starmer to see the King and resign and Mr Madchester to follow an hour later to be asked to form a new administration.*

    The formality is whether Burnham's team can persuade Starmer to have an honourable exit with a timetable over the summer allowing Burnham time to prepare and meet civil service etc etc.

    * I'm assuming the King is in the UK and near to London etc.

    The King is still in Manchester I think
    Your Green prediction was crap.
    Which Green prediction??
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577

    Starmer should say "I'll go in return for cabinet position X" and just hang about to annoy Burnham.

    He just needs to secure the FS and then go check his airmiles balance
  • eekeek Posts: 34,104
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    Car production in Sunderland is half of what it was a decade ago, despite government bungs.

    Remania was always going to do better than Leaverstan, because it was the economically successful areas of the country that voted Remain.
    Car production will be doubling next year though as Chery take over the other line.

    The issue in Sunderland is naff cars more than anything else..
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,052
    Starmer should get out the podium and announce he has heard the country, and therefore is planning an immediate reshuffle to be completed next week.

    Worth it for thr amusement.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,577
    edited 7:30PM

    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking

    The beginning of the rot was taking in all those already-despised already-failed top Tories whilst still trying to claim he offered a fresh alternative to the ‘uniparty’, the middle of the rot was trying to trouser that £5 million in secret; so we just need to wait to see how the final rot will set in.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,053
    edited 7:32PM

    Foxy said:

    Even if Starmer announces his resignation on Monday, it takes time to undertake the formalities. July looks more likely.

    What formalities?

    Starmer could announce he is resigning immediately with effect from the next morning and the Palace will arrange for Starmer to see the King and resign and Mr Madchester to follow an hour later to be asked to form a new administration.*

    The formality is whether Burnham's team can persuade Starmer to have an honourable exit with a timetable over the summer allowing Burnham time to prepare and meet civil service etc etc.

    * I'm assuming the King is in the UK and near to London etc.

    The King is still in Manchester I think
    "It matters not. He is your King!"
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765
    IanB2 said:

    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking

    The beginning of the rot was taking in all those already-despised already-failed top Tories, the middle of the rot was trying to trouser that £5 million in secret; so we just need to wait to see how the final rot will set in.
    IanB2 said:

    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking

    The beginning of the rot was taking in all those already-despised already-failed top Tories, the middle of the rot was trying to trouser that £5 million in secret; so we just need to wait to see how the final rot will set in.
    Knob rot hopefully!!
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,957
    Heavenly hake. I hid much of the sauce under the fish so it wouldn’t smother the photo


  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,102
    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    NI has the slight advantage of both being inside and outside the EU..
    Precisely.
    It's a pretty clear practical demonstration of the cost of the Brexit deal to the rest of the country.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,912
    kle4 said:

    Starmer should get out the podium and announce he has heard the country, and therefore is planning an immediate reshuffle to be completed next week.

    Worth it for thr amusement.

    Yeah, and do it live, so he has a load of would-be cabinet ministers awkwardly saying "well I'd love to accept that position PM, but..."
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,088

    Tom Harwood
    @tomhfh

    It’s always ‘fight on, fight to win’ until it isn’t.

    Fascinating insight from Tom there
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Be bloody hilarious if King Charles asks Burnham next week to confirm he has the command of the House by having a vote.

  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,946

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    What missions or milestones?

    What has Burnham done in two years with a landslide majority?

    If there are two words to sum up Starmer's tenure in Downing Street it is "wasted opportunity."
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,510
    Nigelb said:

    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    NI has the slight advantage of both being inside and outside the EU..
    Precisely.
    It's a pretty clear practical demonstration of the cost of the Brexit deal to the rest of the country.
    So, what do we do about it?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,677

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    What missions or milestones?

    What has Burnham done in two years with a landslide majority?

    If there are two words to sum up Starmer's tenure in Downing Street it is "wasted opportunity."
    Freudian slip, or prediction for 2028?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,946
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    What missions or milestones?

    What has Burnham done in two years with a landslide majority?

    If there are two words to sum up Starmer's tenure in Downing Street it is "wasted opportunity."
    Freudian slip, or prediction for 2028?
    Yes.
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 183

    kle4 said:

    Starmer should get out the podium and announce he has heard the country, and therefore is planning an immediate reshuffle to be completed next week.

    Worth it for thr amusement.

    Yeah, and do it live, so he has a load of would-be cabinet ministers awkwardly saying "well I'd love to accept that position PM, but..."
    He should come out in a sting vest with a vodka bottle in hand and just shout...F*&K you you ungrateful bastards!

    Peter.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,510

    kle4 said:

    https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2068386082375315569

    DAN HODGES: Insiders tell me Starmer is in a 'volcanic rage' over Burnham 'betrayal'. He'll only listen to his wife now - and this is what Lady Starmer's telling him to do…

    What beyrayal? Burnham has been after him for at least a year.
    One has to have a smidge of sympathy - in summer 2024 Starmer genuinely believed he had won such a massive jaw-breaking victory that he had two terms to implement the fifteen missions and the twenty five cross-ply project milestones that would transform Britain.

    Then...Reeves decided to take out the winter fuel allowance.

    What missions or milestones?

    What has Burnham done in two years with a landslide majority?

    If there are two words to sum up Starmer's tenure in Downing Street it is "wasted opportunity."
    Huh? In Manchester?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 9,039

    kle4 said:

    Starmer should get out the podium and announce he has heard the country, and therefore is planning an immediate reshuffle to be completed next week.

    Worth it for thr amusement.

    Yeah, and do it live, so he has a load of would-be cabinet ministers awkwardly saying "well I'd love to accept that position PM, but..."
    He should come out in a sting vest with a vodka bottle in hand and just shout...F*&K you you ungrateful bastards!

    Peter.
    Is a “Sting vest” black and yellow striped?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,559
    Foxy said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

    will be a massacre
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,701
    Cauldron latest:



    Extreme Temperatures Around The World
    @extremetemps

    It's hard to fathom what Europe will live next week.
    Thousands of records will be brutalized in Spain,France,UK,Benelux,Germany,Swiss,Austria and than the East
    Paris might record 4 consecutive days 40C
    UK will ridiculize its June national record
    Germany 10 days 37C+
    This is CRAZY

    https://x.com/extremetemps/status/2068411038450495726

    If this goes on to a second week then suddenly but once again breathless pol journos will be asking about climate change and why is the government not doing enough.

  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,559

    Heavenly hake. I hid much of the sauce under the fish so it wouldn’t smother the photo


    chips are a bit peely wally
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,847
    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    As Johnny Rotten once put it, 'Ever get the feeling you've been cheated'.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,765

    Be bloody hilarious if King Charles asks Burnham next week to confirm he has the command of the House by having a vote.

    You have moved on from it being hilarious if Burnham loses the By Election to another thing that ain't going to happen.

  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,559
    kle4 said:

    Starmer should get out the podium and announce he has heard the country, and therefore is planning an immediate reshuffle to be completed next week.

    Worth it for thr amusement.

    I would sack every arse in the cabinet and appoint a totally new one and invite them to come ahead
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    boulay said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    I’m going for 2-2. Mind you I thought NED/SWE would be 2-2 as well.

    On a related note I like that if Sweden are Playing Denmark at home the score in the corner spells out SWEDEN and the bits missed off the ends of their names, the “den” and “mark” make up the other team.
    If I ran FIFA I would change Uruguay's code to UGA and fix every draw to ensure they meet Belgium

    BELUGA
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,117
    eek said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    Oh dear.

    Revealed: Brexit voting areas have seen faster growth in foreign workers since EU referendum

    Guardian investigation also finds same areas experienced relative decline over same period


    Leave-voting areas have seen faster relative growth in foreign workers since the Brexit referendum, a Guardian investigation has found.

    Data analysis suggests that the decade since the Brexit vote may not have matched the expectations of many Leave supporters, showing their local areas have also become relatively more deprived over the same period.

    Migration increased across the UK after Brexit, especially of those arriving on health and care visas, peaking at 944,000 in the year ending March 2023. Net migration has since cratered, and continues to fall as people’s visas expire.

    Analysis of government Pay As You Earn data shows that between 2016 and the end of 2024, non-UK workers grew fastest in percentage terms in stronger Leave-voting areas, largely because they had previously made up a smaller share of the workforce.

    Wigan, where the Makerfield byelection has taken place, follows the pattern seen in many strong Leave-voting areas. Less than 5% of payrolled employees were from outside the UK in June 2016. That had increased to just under 10% in December 2024 – more than doubling in relative terms.

    Across the country, the proportion of foreign workers increased by just 40% over that period, rather than doubling.

    Remain-voting areas – often larger cities – still have the largest numbers of non-UK workers. While they have seen bigger rises in absolute numbers, it is Brexit strongholds that have seen faster relative growth of their foreign workforce.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/20/leave-voting-areas-foreign-workers-decade-since-brexit-referendum

    The recent NIESR report came to a similar conclusion. London has done OK since Brexit; the regions (with the exception of NI) got shafted.
    Car production in Sunderland is half of what it was a decade ago, despite government bungs.

    Remania was always going to do better than Leaverstan, because it was the economically successful areas of the country that voted Remain.
    Car production will be doubling next year though as Chery take over the other line.

    The issue in Sunderland is naff cars more than anything else..
    UK car production is at a 73 year low, and in percentage terms a sharper drop than in the EU.

    Next year the new EU rules of origin make UK exports more challenging, and there are the Trump tariffs too.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clymp4ynldlo?app-referrer=deep-link

    It's cold outside. Still, Remain voting London is doing alright at least.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,378

    Cauldron latest:



    Extreme Temperatures Around The World
    @extremetemps

    It's hard to fathom what Europe will live next week.
    Thousands of records will be brutalized in Spain,France,UK,Benelux,Germany,Swiss,Austria and than the East
    Paris might record 4 consecutive days 40C
    UK will ridiculize its June national record
    Germany 10 days 37C+
    This is CRAZY

    https://x.com/extremetemps/status/2068411038450495726

    If this goes on to a second week then suddenly but once again breathless pol journos will be asking about climate change and why is the government not doing enough.

    We had 16 hours free electricity last Sunday and another free 16 hours tomorrow
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,415

    Heavenly hake. I hid much of the sauce under the fish so it wouldn’t smother the photo


    You could call the recipe 'Heaven's Hake'.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,415
    IanB2 said:

    Jesus, Farage ratings are tanking

    The beginning of the rot was taking in all those already-despised already-failed top Tories whilst still trying to claim he offered a fresh alternative to the ‘uniparty’, the middle of the rot was trying to trouser that £5 million in secret; so we just need to wait to see how the final rot will set in.
    Yes, were did it all go so wrong.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,444
    My money is on Tuesday.

    Weekly Cabinet.

    He'll make it known that this is when he'll make a decision. Turf out all but Ministers and a few key political appointees. Not civil servants a Labour Party political cabinet meeting.

    Go round the room, look everyone in the eye, open and transparent. No repurcussions back me yes or no.

    I suspect a majority will say NO

    He confirms to them he will not stand for re-election if it's over 50%, in that case he'll request a meeting with the King Tuesday pm

    If its under 50% he will put himself to a MP vote if any MPs get the 80 odd needed for a nomination.

    This potentially allows Streeting to get his 80 plus, if not it's a coronation.

    Far better to walk in to the Cabinet Room and do it this way, either way it's ballsy and puts Cabinet on spot.

  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,444
    My money is on Tuesday.

    Weekly Cabinet.

    He'll make it known that this is when he'll make a decision. Turf out all but Ministers and a few key political appointees. Not civil servants a Labour Party political cabinet meeting.

    Go round the room, look everyone in the eye, open and transparent. No repurcussions back me yes or no.

    I suspect a majority will say NO

    He confirms to them he will not stand for re-election if it's over 50%, in that case he'll request a meeting with the King Tuesday pm

    If its under 50% he will put himself to a MP vote if any MPs get the 80 odd needed for a nomination.

    This potentially allows Streeting to get his 80 plus, if not it's a coronation.

    Far better to walk in to the Cabinet Room and do it this way, either way it's ballsy and puts Cabinet on spot.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968

    Heavenly hake. I hid much of the sauce under the fish so it wouldn’t smother the photo


    Have you ever thought about becoming a chef, doesn't have to be in a restaurant, maybe as a YouTuber/Instagrammer, your food always looks lush.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,052

    Heavenly hake. I hid much of the sauce under the fish so it wouldn’t smother the photo


    You could call the recipe 'Heaven's Hake'.
    For Heaven's Hake.
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 183

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/2068402807124705631

    EXCL: Sir Keir Starmer knows “things are bad” and is on the brink of resigning as Prime Minister.

    His mood has shifted since Andy Burnham's thumping victory over Reform.

    Get the feeling this now down to him and his wife having a heart-to-heart about the reality of his position over the weekend with Morgan dialing in every half hour saying 'fight on'.

    Heart to Heart...I think it will be more like that TV advert where the kid who lets in ten goals is hiding under the bed!

    Peter.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,968
    Another Brexit bonus.

    Spain tears down barriers at Gibraltar border

    Checkpoints removed for first time in centuries to create frictionless boundary under post-Brexit deal


    Spanish workmen tore down checkpoints on the border between Spain and Gibraltar for the first time in more than 300 years as part of a post-Brexit deal.

    Machine operators removed police auxiliary buildings from Spain’s side of the border crossing in preparation for the introduction of a frictionless land border with no checks on July 15.

    The new Brexit deal erases the land border between the British overseas territory and Spain, enabling the free flow of some 15,000 workers a day, and moves it to Gibraltar’s airport.

    Britons arriving at the airport will have to show their passports to Gibraltar officials and then Spanish guards, who will have the final say on entry to the British territory. The same will apply to arrivals from sea.

    Footage showed workmen dismantling buildings and taking down checkpoints on the Spanish side on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the Brexit referendum on Tuesday.

    On the Gibraltar side, scaffolding has been erected around canopies that are set to be removed, with the dismantling process to begin in the coming days.

    The Royal Gibraltar Police booths for checks will also disappear under the deal that effectively makes the Rock part of the EU’s Schengen border-free space.

    The wire fence that crosses Gibraltar’s isthmus to mark the border will eventually be removed completely.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/20/spain-tears-down-barriers-at-gibraltar-border/
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,378
    Brixian59 said:

    My money is on Tuesday.

    Weekly Cabinet.

    He'll make it known that this is when he'll make a decision. Turf out all but Ministers and a few key political appointees. Not civil servants a Labour Party political cabinet meeting.

    Go round the room, look everyone in the eye, open and transparent. No repurcussions back me yes or no.

    I suspect a majority will say NO

    He confirms to them he will not stand for re-election if it's over 50%, in that case he'll request a meeting with the King Tuesday pm

    If its under 50% he will put himself to a MP vote if any MPs get the 80 odd needed for a nomination.

    This potentially allows Streeting to get his 80 plus, if not it's a coronation.

    Far better to walk in to the Cabinet Room and do it this way, either way it's ballsy and puts Cabinet on spot.

    It is far more likely it will be his cabinet putting 'him' on the spot if he is still hanging on by Tuesday
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,053
    malcolmg said:

    Foxy said:

    Anyhoo, I have had a cheeky bet on Côte d'Ivoire to beat Germany tonight.

    Much as I root for the Africans, this is the best Germany side in many years.

    will be a massacre
    No that was German Southwest Africa.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,053
    Das beste Sunil, ja!
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