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  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    Andy_JS said:

    Obama famously interefered in the Brexit vote a few days or perhaps weeks beforehand (I don't recall exactly) by calling for a Yes vote to staying in the EU.

    He was invited by Cameron, who then stood there grinning inanely as Obama explained there was a queue. It irritated a lot of people and boosted Leave.

    A real low point.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,268
    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:
    I think that article does not allow for the significant differences between the Holyrood and the Westminster constituency boundaries:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Deeside_and_North_Kincardine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_South_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

    The Westminster constituency loses the substantial rural area of North Kincardshire, but gains a chunk of Aberdeen Central Holyrood constituency.

    There were 46 365 votes cast in July 24 in Aberdeen South on a 59.9% turnout, while 34 669 were cast on a 55% turnout in May's Holyrood election in Aberdeen Deeside and North Kincardshire. So it is clear that the urban population gained is larger than the rural population lost.

    The area gained was in Holyrood constituency Aberdeen Central which was heavily SNP (44%) with Lab in second and SCon on 13.9% in 4th place.

    So the differences in boundaries favours an SNP hold. Particularly as SLab voters often seem reluctant to switch to SCon, and indeed often prefer the SNP when we look at transfers in local elections.

    While the SCon are trying to make this a referendum on Oil and Gas, the Nationalist vote seems very sticky.

    So I think SNP hold.
    "The first rule of politics is to learn to count."
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,930
    Good morning, everyone.

    Pressure from Russia on Armenia: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3626n1epd5o
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,414
    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Wait until the numbers are in for the World Cup. Where visitors are only there to be bled dry.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    Good morning everyone.

    A man pled guilty to making a death threat against a local Councillor - he sent a picture of a hanging tree, and a "one day it will be you" message:

    A man who sent death threats to a councillor has admitted to sending the messages in court.

    Grzegorz Grzech, 36, of Beech Crescent, pleaded guilty to sending a message which "conveyed a threat of death" to Bingley councillor Susan Fricker at Bradford Magistrates Court on Thursday.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjpjd5595po

    It's good to see a result. Note that this is still Sub Judice until after sentencing.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,869
    edited 5:30AM

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Wait until the numbers are in for the World Cup. Where visitors are only there to be bled dry.
    It's not only the fans that are being bled dry, it is the host cities too. FIFA gets the ticket money tax free while the host cities bear the cost:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jun/05/toronto-world-cup-fifa?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,869

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    Park the outrage bus. Did you actually read the article linked?

    "Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey said the organisation's 'foremost objective' was maintaining the security of banknotes and combating increasingly sophisticated counterfeiting techniques.

    The Bank also pointed to an earlier public consultation which found a majority of respondents favoured nature as the theme for future notes."

    Historical figures on notes have always been changed from time to time (Elizabeth Fry was replaced by Churchill for example) as a security issue.

    Wildlife makes a nice change, and no doubt will be replaced by something else in time.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,142
    edited 5:40AM
    Perhaps in these day of vulgarity and excess and golden ballrooms this feature on the Kushners might make us all feel a little nauseous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDXjcNU2rw


    PS have a sickbag handy almost from the start
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    Park the outrage bus. Did you actually read the article linked?

    "Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey said the organisation's 'foremost objective' was maintaining the security of banknotes and combating increasingly sophisticated counterfeiting techniques.

    The Bank also pointed to an earlier public consultation which found a majority of respondents favoured nature as the theme for future notes."

    Historical figures on notes have always been changed from time to time (Elizabeth Fry was replaced by Churchill for example) as a security issue.

    Wildlife makes a nice change, and no doubt will be replaced by something else in time.
    Yes, I read it.

    Didn't read your silly post though.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,869

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    Park the outrage bus. Did you actually read the article linked?

    "Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey said the organisation's 'foremost objective' was maintaining the security of banknotes and combating increasingly sophisticated counterfeiting techniques.

    The Bank also pointed to an earlier public consultation which found a majority of respondents favoured nature as the theme for future notes."

    Historical figures on notes have always been changed from time to time (Elizabeth Fry was replaced by Churchill for example) as a security issue.

    Wildlife makes a nice change, and no doubt will be replaced by something else in time.
    Yes, I read it.

    Didn't read your silly post though.
    Quite clearly you did!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,522
    @vcdgf555.bsky.social‬

    To recap:
    - 15th Naval Arsenal is currently detonating west of St Petersburg.
    - Kronstadt Naval Base has been hit again, days after corvette Boykiy was severely damaged.
    - Mariupol port is burning (likely oil storage).
    - Oil storage is burning at Ust-Labinsk, Krasnodar Krai.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    edited 5:45AM

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    edited 6:09AM
    Battlebus said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Scrutiny starting up on delivery robots.

    ( Currently there are essentially zero rules, and currently in the UK these weigh from 25kg to 50kg, travelling at 4mph on pavements.)

    https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/policy-reports-and-research/delivery-robots/

    It’s hardly scrutiny.

    These loonies just want to stop the technology full stop.

    ‘ LIVING STREETS DOES NOT WANT TO SEE DELIVERY ROBOTS ON OUR PAVEMENTS.’

    In all caps too. Sign of issues with the person who wrote the original.
    I think you have your groups muddled up - Living Streets used to be called the Pedestrians' Association, and have been around since 1929. They were involved in things like the introduction of the Highway Code in the early 1930s and the invention of Pedestrian Crossings, including Zebras.

    I don't that keeping vehicles off pavements is much of a demand. They are pedestrian spaces.

    Here they will stand more after things like making sure robots no not knock visually impaired people over; if left unaddressed it will go exactly like lithium batteries have, and before you know it the robots will double or treble in size and we will have a whole new wild west full of problems that were ignored rather than thought about ahead of time.

    Are you thinking of Reclaim the Streets, who have somewhat anarchistic habits?
    Bugger - typos and time limits.

    "I don't see that keeping vehicles, especially ones not under control of a driver, off pavements, is much of a demand. They are pedestrian spaces."
    As an aside, robots aren't the main problem around here but the increasing amount of pavement being taken over by people who won't cut their hedges. This is forcing people, prams and others onto busy roads. Presume the council could, if they had funds, require people to get their plants off the highway. Anyone campaigning for that? (Problem of living in a green and pleasant land!)
    There are lots of people working on that.

    It is the type of thing you can usually report via a web form or the Council App, probably under "obstructed pavement" or "obstructed highway" (the pavement/footway is a public highway, on which pedestrians are entitled to use of the full width). *

    In Notts I can report it via the app and I think it picks up the location from the phone, and I can upload a piccie directly. If vulnerable groups (elderly, disabled, children) were being forced into the road I would categorise it as an emergency. That is how the police usually categorise pavement parking they are willing to deal with in most of England.

    The best way is imo always "report it on the spot", otherwise there's an overhead of remembering, recording, finding time etc. Most of my stuff is longer term requiring commentary, so I have a big spreadsheet to maintain.

    * As an aside, Double Yellow lines also cover the full width of the footway as well as the carriageway, so Council Officers can enforce on those where the problem is on the pavement.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Hmmm.

    Scrutiny starting up on delivery robots.

    ( Currently there are essentially zero rules, and currently in the UK these weigh from 25kg to 50kg, travelling at 4mph on pavements.)

    https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/policy-reports-and-research/delivery-robots/

    It’s hardly scrutiny.

    These loonies just want to stop the technology full stop.

    ‘ LIVING STREETS DOES NOT WANT TO SEE DELIVERY ROBOTS ON OUR PAVEMENTS.’

    In all caps too. Sign of issues with the person who wrote the original.
    I think you have your groups muddled up - Living Streets used to be called the Pedestrians' Association, and have been around since 1929. They were involved in things like the introduction of the Highway Code in the early 1930s and the invention of Pedestrian Crossings, including Zebras.

    I don't that keeping vehicles off pavements is much of a demand. They are pedestrian spaces.

    Here they will stand more after things like making sure robots no not knock visually impaired people over; if left unaddressed it will go exactly like lithium batteries have, and before you know it the robots will double or treble in size and we will have a whole new wild west full of problems that were ignored rather than thought about ahead of time.

    Are you thinking of Reclaim the Streets, who have somewhat anarchistic habits?
    Bugger - typos and time limits.

    "I don't see that keeping vehicles, especially ones not under control of a driver, off pavements, is much of a demand. They are pedestrian spaces."
    As an aside, robots aren't the main problem around here but the increasing amount of pavement being taken over by people who won't cut their hedges. This is forcing people, prams and others onto busy roads. Presume the council could, if they had funds, require people to get their plants off the highway. Anyone campaigning for that? (Problem of living in a green and pleasant land!)
    There are lots of people working on that.

    It is the type of thing you can usually report via a web form or the Council App, probably under "obstructed pavement" or "obstructed highway" (the pavement/footway is a public highway, on which pedestrians are entitled to use of the full width). *

    In Notts I can report it via the app and I think it picks up the location from the phone, and I can upload a piccie directly. If vulnerable groups (elderly, disabled, children) were being forced into the road I would categorise it as an emergency. That is how the police usually categorise pavement parking they are willing to deal with in most of England.

    The best way is imo always "report it on the spot", otherwise there's an overhead of remembering, recording, finding time etc. Most of my stuff is longer term requiring commentary, so I have a big spreadsheet to maintain.

    * As an aside, Double Yellow lines also cover the full width of the footway as well as the carriageway, so Council Officers can enforce on those where the problem is on the pavement.
    A bonus bit: Local disabled or pensioner groups will be concerned about this, so useful places to ask might be eg the local U3A, or walking or civic amenity groups. It will also be an issue on which they agree, unlike say bus stop bypasses where disabled groups would have disagreements.

    It is an increasing trend that walking / wheeling / cycling groups work across their common interests, so for example Walk-Ride-GM are very active, and "Bike Worcester" (who have broadened out) have a Google Map of where they want to see benches put in for pedestrians who are less energetic than our PB Postman to take a pause, catch breath and admire the view. They are mainly cycling orientated, but have also mapped free parking, the benches mentioned and road crossings.

    This is their map page: https://www.bikeworcester.org.uk/maps
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,268
    A bonus for any England supporters visiting Texas for World Cup games. The one thing you don't want 'coming home',

    When the eggs hatch, hundreds of larvae burrow through living flesh with sharp mouths, eventually killing their host if left untreated.

    Bonus point: White or Brown?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevpv3r7jmpo
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,930
    Betting Post

    F1: backed Leclerc at 2.18 to win the race.
    https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2026/06/monaco-2026-pre-qualifying.html

  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    edited 6:40AM
    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030
    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    Surely it's the other way round - voters are supposed to follow the populists. Or else...
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,472
    MattW said:

    Good morning everyone.

    A man pled guilty to making a death threat against a local Councillor - he sent a picture of a hanging tree, and a "one day it will be you" message:

    A man who sent death threats to a councillor has admitted to sending the messages in court.

    Grzegorz Grzech, 36, of Beech Crescent, pleaded guilty to sending a message which "conveyed a threat of death" to Bingley councillor Susan Fricker at Bradford Magistrates Court on Thursday.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjpjd5595po

    It's good to see a result. Note that this is still Sub Judice until after sentencing.

    I linked to this story yesterday too.

    Susan is my councillor.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,502
    Andy_JS said:

    Staff are to lose their jobs as another independent school closes.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99l9j4z9xyo

    Just a note that unlike schools in Cirencester, Malvern or Thetford this one had nothing at all to do with VAT and nobody is even pretending it did. The school was actually in a very good financial position.

    I'm not saying too much but I very much hope that the police are investigating.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828
    edited 6:57AM
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    FWIW, I thought at the time that Obama's interference in the Brexit vote was wrong -- and may have been counter-productive, having the opposite effect he intended.

    (What should he have done? Stayed silent unless asked, and then said he hoped that the EU and Britain would work through this to be better friends, however the vote went. And then changed the subject.)

    I wasn't bothered by Obama's intervention because I'm a global free speech advocate, but the interesting point is how the left in the UK is fine with interventions from abroad as long as they agree with them, but they don't like it when they don't agree with them. So hypocrisy, in other words.
    I suppose there is a thread. The US, then, felt they had an interest in the UK remaining part of the European Union. Now they seem to feel they have an interest in the UK succumbing to racial division and turning to far-right ethno-nationalism.
    Obama's intervention, particularly the "back of the queue" comment was unusually unwise but stated an opinion based on evidence and reality. Trump has similarly intervene on this level regularly for eighteen months.

    The DoJ and Vance's intervention is somewhat different. It is promoting, an, at best, questionable narrative by a political opponent of the elected Government and it is fermenting discord predicated on what most of us consider to be a lie.

    There is an irony to Vance's assertion that Nowak demonstrates, if you like, a Roman Empire like decline in first World standards when we can point to Renee Good, Alex Pretti, Sandra Bland and dare, I say it, George Floyd.

    Normalising the Trump crime family regime by comparing to what went before and claiming hypocrisy from previous administrations is laughable.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030
    Roger said:

    Perhaps in these day of vulgarity and excess and golden ballrooms this feature on the Kushners might make us all feel a little nauseous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDXjcNU2rw


    PS have a sickbag handy almost from the start

    Hah! Great intro by the presenter.

    Is the Ivanka tape for real though? The speak looks a bit odd, could be poor lipsynch or AI maybe? Who knows these days.

    Funny though.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,502
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,192
    Andy_JS said:

    Taz said:

    Starmer angry about banning refillable water bottles at the World Cup.

    What a bellend

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2062925357120946232?s=61

    Isn't he right on this occasion?
    He’s right but being ‘angry’ about it. 🙄
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030
    Andy_JS said:

    Can we please continue to talk about why Paul Quinn hasn't received a longer sentence after allowing Andrew Malkinson to spend 17 years in prison?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbLCXIaZBo

    Has Farage blamed it on a two-tier justice system yet?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
    Just wait until that ugly mug reaches greenbacks. It would be illegal, but who cares?

    The man behind why living people are legally bound NOT to be put on US legal tender can be viewed below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_M._Clark
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
    I had not considered it before, but the origin of "deface" is from Medieval times when the face of eg a miscreant would be "defaced" ('mutilatio'), such as removal of the nose or the ears.

    Who knew ? Not me.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
    Washington looks like he's got a bad smell under his nose.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828
    Roger said:

    Perhaps in these day of vulgarity and excess and golden ballrooms this feature on the Kushners might make us all feel a little nauseous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDXjcNU2rw


    PS have a sickbag handy almost from the start

    The Kushners are a particularly venal and unpleasant branch of the Trump crime family.

    Can't wait to go to their exclusive island in the Mediterranean though.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    An extreme drop in Ireland’s GDP in Q1 pulled the entire Eurozone into a contraction.

    https://x.com/danobrien20/status/2062849045861720230

    What the heck is going on there?
    US pharmaceutical companies in Ireland rushed exports a year ago to get ahead of the tariffs - that's now unwinding in the figures.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,661

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    Surely it's the other way round - voters are supposed to follow the populists. Or else...
    Also wrong. Populists want to be on the bank notes. That's what they mean by "great men of history"
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,030

    An extreme drop in Ireland’s GDP in Q1 pulled the entire Eurozone into a contraction.

    https://x.com/danobrien20/status/2062849045861720230

    What the heck is going on there?
    US pharmaceutical companies in Ireland rushed exports a year ago to get ahead of the tariffs - that's now unwinding in the figures.
    So did that rush last year boost Ireland's and thus the Eurozone's GDP?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828
    edited 7:16AM

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
    Washington looks like he's got a bad smell under his nose.
    He has. Trump is standing next to him.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    Good morning, everyone.

    Pressure from Russia on Armenia: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3626n1epd5o

    Not subtle.

    Last month, Vladimir Putin listed the economic benefits Armenia stood to lose if it pursued closer ties with the West, and pointedly noted that "the crisis in Ukraine began with efforts to move toward EU accession".
  • TresTres Posts: 3,669

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
  • JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    An extreme drop in Ireland’s GDP in Q1 pulled the entire Eurozone into a contraction.

    https://x.com/danobrien20/status/2062849045861720230

    What the heck is going on there?
    US pharmaceutical companies in Ireland rushed exports a year ago to get ahead of the tariffs - that's now unwinding in the figures.
    So did that rush last year boost Ireland's and thus the Eurozone's GDP?
    Yes. That was noted at the time in relation to Ireland's figures - the statistic bods here highlight a measure called Modified Domestic Demand (MDD) which gives a measure of the local economy without the distortions from multinationals - but I don't remember anyone pointing to it to explain away growth in Eurozone GDP.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    An extreme drop in Ireland’s GDP in Q1 pulled the entire Eurozone into a contraction.

    https://x.com/danobrien20/status/2062849045861720230

    What the heck is going on there?
    US pharmaceutical companies in Ireland rushed exports a year ago to get ahead of the tariffs - that's now unwinding in the figures.
    So did that rush last year boost Ireland's and thus the Eurozone's GDP?
    Yes. That was noted at the time in relation to Ireland's figures - the statistic bods here highlight a measure called Modified Domestic Demand (MDD) which gives a measure of the local economy without the distortions from multinationals - but I don't remember anyone pointing to it to explain away growth in Eurozone GDP.
    Here's an article about 2025H1 economic figures for Ireland.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0904/1531781-cso-gdp-figures/

    But when the impact of multinationals is included Gross Domestic Product surged by 18.5% due to strong exports - particularly in the pharmaceutical sector.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    edited 7:36AM
    Thanks everyone for the comments on delivery robots.

    One thing I wonder is how well these will function in US suburbs, which are usually designed to make walking difficult or impossible.

    How will Bo and Luke driving their planker-tanker with some DUI treat a delivery robot 2ft out in the road doing 4mph ?

    (There will be a fat-fatter-fattest-robot war, just as there is currently a fat-fatter-fattest-SUV war.)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,472
    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    How do they take their coke then?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    RobD said:

    US Congresswoman calls for sanctions to be placed on the officers involved in arresting Henry Nowak

    https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/2062943462215856351

    We should sanction the officers who did this. Don’t need them coming on vacation to the US. An absolute travesty.

    I wonder if she realises that many Britons are avoiding/cancelling US vacations due to the current regime in the US.
    Do the stats actually show that?
    Staggering dip in US tourism is a troubling sign for the future

    Son works for a middle sized tour company who mentioned this earlier in the year. Canada is up as are bookings worldwide for 2027/2028. It's not the lack of cash.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/25/travel/analysis-tourism-fewer-international-visitors-2025-vis
    Thank-you - interesting.

    I think the piece is a few months behind international perceptions, and is still trying to believe that it is a flesh wound, not an amputation. There are various things missing - such as the $250 surcharge Trump has imposed on international visitors over domestic visitors to visit national parks (and the problem that the pass has a picture of Trump on it - US Resident's version below):

    For international (non-U.S.) tourists, national park entrance fees now include a surcharge. Foreign visitors pay a $250 non-resident annual pass. At 11 premium parks, tourists without an annual pass must pay an additional $100 per-person surcharge on top of the regular entrance fee.

    That picture alone is enough to put me off visiting.
    You can get very nifty stickers to go over it with animal or landscape pictures.

    So it is now policy that if a pass is "defaced" by a sticker it is invalid.
    https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s1-5672341/national-park-updates-guidelines-stop-visitors-defacing-trump-picture-pass

    So the sticker now goes on a transparent sleeve you put it in.
    The whole problem is de face on de pass.
    Just wait until that ugly mug reaches greenbacks. It would be illegal, but who cares?

    The man behind why living people are legally bound NOT to be put on US legal tender can be viewed below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_M._Clark
    If they were never legal, the whole shebang can be declared invalid.

    Tight control of the money supply - a la Maggie !!

    Can the policy be announced in advance, so no one wants one?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,414

    JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?

    He is the sole reason to hope that Trump survives his full term.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    Park the outrage bus. Did you actually read the article linked?

    "Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey said the organisation's 'foremost objective' was maintaining the security of banknotes and combating increasingly sophisticated counterfeiting techniques.

    The Bank also pointed to an earlier public consultation which found a majority of respondents favoured nature as the theme for future notes."

    Historical figures on notes have always been changed from time to time (Elizabeth Fry was replaced by Churchill for example) as a security issue.

    Wildlife makes a nice change, and no doubt will be replaced by something else in time.
    Yes, I read it.

    Didn't read your silly post though.
    Quite clearly you did!
    No, I read the first line only. Skipped over the rest.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
  • Burnham wants stronger public control OR public ownership of utilities.

    I think this is the right move. Being non-ideological but accepting the market has totally failed is the right move here.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    It was a self-selecting consultation, and rather a weak one at that, not a general election.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239
    edited 7:48AM
    There's a fire at an oil refinery in Tyumen oblast - just under 2,000 km from Ukraine. This refinery was previously hit in October 2025.

    There is no let up for Russia from the attacks on its oil infrastructure.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,553

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
    In the style of Northern Ireland, I’ve just elected myself Community Leader For Young People.

    I’ll need 6 figures a year, a big pension and a blind eye turned to my entrepreneurial activities.
  • Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
    Can I speak for some of them?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,915

    JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?

    Dunno, he seems to do a remarkable job of uniting the countries in whose politics he sticks his shit covered oar.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239
    MattW said:

    Thanks everyone for the comments on delivery robots.

    One thing I wonder is how well these will function in US suburbs, which are usually designed to make walking difficult or impossible.

    How will Bo and Luke driving their planker-tanker with some DUI treat a delivery robot 2ft out in the road doing 4mph ?

    (There will be a fat-fatter-fattest-robot war, just as there is currently a fat-fatter-fattest-SUV war.)

    My guess is they won't be used in suburbs. At 4mph they would be too slow. They will be only for dense urban areas.

    But the suburbs are sparsely populated enough that there are fewer issues with using flying drones.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,522
    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Massive Ukrainian drone attack on Russia currently underway. More than 400.

    Areas of St Petersburg and Kronstadt have been closed, with mobile internet shutdown. Reports that some prime military sites have been targeted.

    Super #explodey

    https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3mnm65fuhts23
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,553

    Burnham wants stronger public control OR public ownership of utilities.

    I think this is the right move. Being non-ideological but accepting the market has totally failed is the right move here.

    One option that hasn’t been mentioned is letting Thames Water go bust, the government saves the suppliers (with a loan) and the government creates a golden share in the revived business.

    With explicit vetos over various things.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,553

    MattW said:

    Thanks everyone for the comments on delivery robots.

    One thing I wonder is how well these will function in US suburbs, which are usually designed to make walking difficult or impossible.

    How will Bo and Luke driving their planker-tanker with some DUI treat a delivery robot 2ft out in the road doing 4mph ?

    (There will be a fat-fatter-fattest-robot war, just as there is currently a fat-fatter-fattest-SUV war.)

    My guess is they won't be used in suburbs. At 4mph they would be too slow. They will be only for dense urban areas.

    But the suburbs are sparsely populated enough that there are fewer issues with using flying drones.
    Suburbs will have delivery by robovan. There are already prototypes for robots to deliver from the van to doors.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,268

    JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?

    Dunno, he seems to do a remarkable job of uniting the countries in whose politics he sticks his shit covered oar.
    Didn't he visit Hungary prior to the election where Orban lost? And failed to get Iran onside. He's does like a good sermon so perhaps the/a church is calling him.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542
    Battlebus said:

    A bonus for any England supporters visiting Texas for World Cup games. The one thing you don't want 'coming home',

    When the eggs hatch, hundreds of larvae burrow through living flesh with sharp mouths, eventually killing their host if left untreated.

    Bonus point: White or Brown?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevpv3r7jmpo

    That does not seem to cover the detail, which seems to have slightly unfortunate timing.

    1950s+ USA spent tens of millions of $ on eradication programmes, using "sterile flies". North American eradication by 2000.
    2024/2025 New world screwworm detected in Mexico.
    Mid 2025: DOGE cuts funding for project to monitor the New world screwworm in Mexico/Central America.
    Slightly further on in Mid 2025: US Govt ended temporary ban on import of cattle from Mexico.
    Mid 2026: Screw worm cases detected in Texas.

    That's still arguably circumstantial, but it won't help the Republicans in Texas unless they nail it down. It will perhaps appear in Democrat campaign adverts.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/06/04/screwworm-in-texas-cattle-could-drive-up-beef-prices-after-doge-axed-prevention-efforts/

    Have a good day everyone.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
    Can I speak for some of them?
    You can, and you actually think and reflect and have a mind of your own which is a refreshing change on here.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,239

    There's a fire at an oil refinery in Tyumen oblast - just under 2,000 km from Ukraine. This refinery was previously hit in October 2025.

    There is no let up for Russia from the attacks on its oil infrastructure.

    Seems this might not have been a Ukrainian drone. Being suggested that this was due to a lack of maintenance, or low quality parts due to import substitution. Oops.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,669

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
    tell me i'm right without wanting to admit it
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,915
    Funny.
    A certain PB quality to it..

    Michael Spicer
    @MrMichaelSpicer
    ·
    37m
    Nigel Farage Listens to the News

    https://x.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/2063164571200671777?s=20
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,587

    NEW THREAD

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,916

    Burnham wants stronger public control OR public ownership of utilities.

    I think this is the right move. Being non-ideological but accepting the market has totally failed is the right move here.

    It is undoubtedly true that our regulation of privatised service suppliers has been absolutely chronic even by our own dismal standards. Who could possibly have foreseen that loading water companies with billions of debt underwritten by customer income flows would not end well? Who could have imagined that regulatory capture was an inevitable consequence of allowing those employed by those services to move to the private sector on early "retirement"? Who could have realised that incentivising capital investment with guaranteed returns was not the most efficient way of allocating resources?

    Anyone who might have taken an O level in maths or economics perhaps?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618
    Tres said:

    Tres said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    young people dont use bank notes
    You don't speak for young people.
    tell me i'm right without wanting to admit it
    You're not right.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,692

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    Can you not think of the buff tailed bumblebee ?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,251
    edited 8:45AM
    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    What's funny is the tendency of our hip and trendy progressives (average age 62) to leap on any unjustifiable shite as long as it's anti-traditional and Farage wouldn't like it.

    I'll give you at least a small amount of credit for not demeaning your own intelligence by going on the 'security' angle, as if dots arranged on a substrate are somehow more secure when they are arranged in the shape of a hedgehog than Winston Churchill.

    But the 'public consultation' isn't much better as a figleaf. Focus groups are not a plebiscite, and I think we all know you can get them to say whatever you like. The public are allowed to vote on which animal of farthing wood they want on the notes - if the Bank is so confident that public opinion is behind them, why not allow them to vote for Churchill and the rest too, to test their theory?

    These figures from our history have not diminished. Europe still enjoys the freedom from Nazism that Churchill helped to give it. Readers worldwide still fall in love with Austen's books. It is not that our history has become irrelevant, it is that in some quarters we're clearly doing a shit job of teaching it. If young people don't find Churchill relevant, we realise we need to teach them better, we don't welcome their complacent ignorance and change everything to fit around it.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,251

    Funny.
    A certain PB quality to it..

    Michael Spicer
    @MrMichaelSpicer
    ·
    37m
    Nigel Farage Listens to the News

    https://x.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/2063164571200671777?s=20

    Nice concept but overlong.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,618

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    What's funny is the tendency of our hip and trendy progressives (average age 62) to leap on any unjustifiable shite as long as it's anti-traditional and Farage wouldn't like it.

    This site is dominated by these pillocks.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542

    MattW said:

    Thanks everyone for the comments on delivery robots.

    One thing I wonder is how well these will function in US suburbs, which are usually designed to make walking difficult or impossible.

    How will Bo and Luke driving their planker-tanker with some DUI treat a delivery robot 2ft out in the road doing 4mph ?

    (There will be a fat-fatter-fattest-robot war, just as there is currently a fat-fatter-fattest-SUV war.)

    My guess is they won't be used in suburbs. At 4mph they would be too slow. They will be only for dense urban areas.

    But the suburbs are sparsely populated enough that there are fewer issues with using flying drones.
    Suburbs will have delivery by robovan. There are already prototypes for robots to deliver from the van to doors.
    My suggestion is that it will be a hybrid, like a mini-Uber - weighing half and doing 20mph. There are some models now.

    I am not sure how Bo and Luke will treat those.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,692

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    What's funny is the tendency of our hip and trendy progressives (average age 62) to leap on any unjustifiable shite as long as it's anti-traditional and Farage wouldn't like it.

    I'll give you at least a small amount of credit for not demeaning your own intelligence by going on the 'security' angle, as if dots arranged on a substrate are somehow more secure when they are arranged in the shape of a hedgehog than Winston Churchill.

    But the 'public consultation' isn't much better as a figleaf. Focus groups are not a plebiscite, and I think we all know you can get them to say whatever you like. The public are allowed to vote on which animal of farthing wood they want on the notes - if the Bank is so confident that public opinion is behind them, why not allow them to vote for Churchill and the rest too, to test their theory?

    These figures from our history have not diminished. Europe still enjoys the freedom from Nazism that Churchill gave it. Readers worldwide still fall in love with Austen's books. It is not that our history has become irrelevant, it is that in some quarters we're clearly doing a shit job of teaching it. If young people don't find Churchill relevant, we realise we need to teach them better, we don't welcome their complacent ignorance and change everything to fit around it.
    You're developing a fine pomposity. It's just a banknote.

    Most voters don't seem greatly to care. (Though is you read the rest of this link, you'll find that Ed Davey agrees with you.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy03zy1lr8go
    ..A YouGov poll of more than 5,000 people last July suggested 34% of Lib Dems wanted nature on notes, compared with 19% wanting notable British historical figures.
    It was close among Conservative and Reform supporters. Some 30% of Tories and Reform voters wanted historical figures, compared with 26% for the Conservatives and 25% for Reform favouring nature...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,251

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    What's funny is the tendency of our hip and trendy progressives (average age 62) to leap on any unjustifiable shite as long as it's anti-traditional and Farage wouldn't like it.

    This site is dominated by these pillocks.
    It's quite remarkable that they fondly imagine that the grandeur of 'dull competence' hangs around them like ermine, when all the time they're furiously arguing that black is white in defence of whatever god-awful shit sandwich we're being served by the blob this week.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,542

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Bank of England axed Churchill, Turing, and Austen from notes after being told they were 'not representative of the UK's cultural and natural diversity'"

    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15878403/Bank-England-axed-Churchill-Turing-Austen-notes-told-not-representative-UKs-cultural-natural-diversity.html

    Totally circular logic. Young people who've become largely ignorant of our history and where knowledge is shared, told that it is shameful and wicked, strangely don't like or appreciate representations of it. Therefore we take it off bank notes so even fewer people are aware of our history and the idea that it is shameful is further reinforced. The only thing that should change on the banknotes is they should add text in plain English explaining why these people are there.
    The way round this is to "Woke it up" to the powers that be, so they get all excited instead.

    Thus, Turing is Gay, Austen a feminist icon and Churchill, with his dual British-American heritage, an internationalist and global citizen; you could try and put on there advocacy for a united Europe as well.

    Watch how they lap it up.
    It's quite funny. The Daily Mail and Bobajob Jenners are trying a bit too hard in the outrage fluffing department.

    The Bank of England's version is 'we held a consultation and the public said they wanted British natural heritage on our banknotes.' It's a bit of an open and shut case.

    Aren't populists supposed to want to follow the voters?
    What's funny is the tendency of our hip and trendy progressives (average age 62) to leap on any unjustifiable shite as long as it's anti-traditional and Farage wouldn't like it.

    I'll give you at least a small amount of credit for not demeaning your own intelligence by going on the 'security' angle, as if dots arranged on a substrate are somehow more secure when they are arranged in the shape of a hedgehog than Winston Churchill.

    But the 'public consultation' isn't much better as a figleaf. Focus groups are not a plebiscite, and I think we all know you can get them to say whatever you like. The public are allowed to vote on which animal of farthing wood they want on the notes - if the Bank is so confident that public opinion is behind them, why not allow them to vote for Churchill and the rest too, to test their theory?

    These figures from our history have not diminished. Europe still enjoys the freedom from Nazism that Churchill helped to give it. Readers worldwide still fall in love with Austen's books. It is not that our history has become irrelevant, it is that in some quarters we're clearly doing a shit job of teaching it. If young people don't find Churchill relevant, we realise we need to teach them better, we don't welcome their complacent ignorance and change everything to fit around it.
    It is not even traditional. Traditionally UK banknotes have been plain.

    We have only had historical figures on our banknotes since 1970, and Churchill has only been on there since 2016.

    It is a manufactured, attention-seeking fuss about a complete non-issue. This is peak snowflake.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,502
    MattW said:

    Battlebus said:

    A bonus for any England supporters visiting Texas for World Cup games. The one thing you don't want 'coming home',

    When the eggs hatch, hundreds of larvae burrow through living flesh with sharp mouths, eventually killing their host if left untreated.

    Bonus point: White or Brown?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevpv3r7jmpo

    That does not seem to cover the detail, which seems to have slightly unfortunate timing.

    1950s+ USA spent tens of millions of $ on eradication programmes, using "sterile flies". North American eradication by 2000.
    2024/2025 New world screwworm detected in Mexico.
    Mid 2025: DOGE cuts funding for project to monitor the New world screwworm in Mexico/Central America.
    Slightly further on in Mid 2025: US Govt ended temporary ban on import of cattle from Mexico.
    Mid 2026: Screw worm cases detected in Texas.

    That's still arguably circumstantial, but it won't help the Republicans in Texas unless they nail it down. It will perhaps appear in Democrat campaign adverts.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/06/04/screwworm-in-texas-cattle-could-drive-up-beef-prices-after-doge-axed-prevention-efforts/

    Have a good day everyone.
    They have been screwed by an unexpected comeback of a parastical worm mired in bullshit.

    And there's problems with cattle as well.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 12,212
    Andy_JS said:

    Upholding true British values, I'd like to very politely ask Vance, Musk, Trump and others across the ocean to fuck off and mind their own business.

    What about the "Global Village" though? Where debates and conversations take place as though borders don't exist.
    And what would the Global Village be without its Global Village Idiots?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,268
    Better class of insults on this site. Some posters at least explain, in detail, why you are a GVI.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828

    JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?

    He is the sole reason to hope that Trump survives his full term.
    BBC Radio 4 news this morning going big on this. They seem pretty outraged that someone as senior and as impressive as the VPOTUS has had to intervene to call out the murderous, white hating, two tier racist scum that is the British Government.

    Renee Good and Alex Pretti wave meekly. I am humming a Manic Street Preachers song to myself.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,192

    JD Vance really is a massive tool isn’t he?

    Members of the current govt called for Arms sales to be banned after the murder of George Floyd and plenty of UK politicians weighed in on it too.

    Yet when a US politician weighs in on a U.K. matter it’s terrible.

    🙄
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 26,274

    Andy_JS said:

    Can we please continue to talk about why Paul Quinn hasn't received a longer sentence after allowing Andrew Malkinson to spend 17 years in prison?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbLCXIaZBo

    Or should we talk about why Malkinson was not released for more than 12 years after DNA evidence exonerated him? Or why the CCRC turned him down twice. Or even how he came to be wrongly convicted in the first place.
    I did some research into this and read the various reports. So if there's any interest, happy to share.
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