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BREAKING: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, endorsed by President Trump, won the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate, defeating four-term Sen. John Cornyn. https://t.co/TAs4qMaOuh pic.twitter.com/N2WUbal8ck

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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    morning
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    'Paedo Protector Paxton' has a nicely alliterative ring as a slogan.

    Assuming they think, what were the Republican voters thinking?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    Talarico is probably the bet here, but they're not exactly generous odds for a Democrat in Texas.

    I did tip him several months ago, of course.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    ydoethur said:

    'Paedo Protector Paxton' has a nicely alliterative ring as a slogan.

    Assuming they think, what were the Republican voters thinking?

    "Trump says..."
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    ydoethur said:

    Yesterday, saw a massive storm on the northerrn horizon traverse west to east. According to radar, it was 40-odd miles away near Cambridge and Sudbury way. No rain in east London, however!

    London's such a dump even the rain won't visit it.

    *puts hands in pockets and whistles quietly*
    Well the sky is currently dumping on W Yorks instead.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,242
    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    London is a dump, part II


  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    edited May 28
    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    Seems, madam? Nay it is, I know not seems.
    Tis not alone the MAGA hat, good mother
    Nor customary robes of Trumpian black
    Nor windy suspiration of forced breath
    Nor not the fruitful river of the eye
    As I behold the addled orange visage,
    Together with all forms, moods, shapes of greed,
    That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
    For they are actions that a man might play:
    But I have that within which passeth show;
    These but the trappings and the suits I throw.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506

    Mandelson vetting warned of ties to senior figures in China, Russia and Israel
    Exclusive: Vetting officials also flagged £1m loan when recommending he should be denied security clearance

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/27/mandelson-vetting-warned-ties-senior-figures-china-russia-israel

    How much of this was new though?

    In looking at rules and regulations, we need to get the concept of Logical Equivalence into the heads of the politicians and civil servants.

    That is, what does the system you create actually do?

    In the case of the elaborate vetting for senior jobs in government, it actually resolves to “Give him the job because he knows the right people”.

    Which is a mild variation on “Give him the job because he went to the right school and knows the right kind of people”.

    #NU10K same as #OLD10K
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    ydoethur said:

    'Paedo Protector Paxton' has a nicely alliterative ring as a slogan.

    Assuming they think, what were the Republican voters thinking?

    Orange Emperor Say *This* New Primarch?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,024

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,856
    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas, Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate, or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,856
    edited May 28
    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566
    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    I need to finish my piece comparing Donald Trump to Vladimir Harkonnen.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,305
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Yesterday, saw a massive storm on the northerrn horizon traverse west to east. According to radar, it was 40-odd miles away near Cambridge and Sudbury way. No rain in east London, however!

    London's such a dump even the rain won't visit it.

    *puts hands in pockets and whistles quietly*
    Well the sky is currently dumping on W Yorks instead.
    Tracking north eastwards, I think I'm just about clear of it in Huddersfield, the birds have come out to chirp.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    HYUFD said:

    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote

    Susan Collins is toast in Maine. Even the most favourable polls put her 9 points down.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote

    Susan Collins is toast in Maine. Even the most favourable polls put her 9 points down.
    But the Dem candidate is a bit of a roaster.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I don't think it's too late. Rebuilding would take a long time, but I think it's probably essential.
    Manufacturing is becoming more important, not less, to national economies.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,086

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Go to London I guarantee you’ll either be mugged or not appreciated

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,856
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote

    Susan Collins is toast in Maine. Even the most favourable polls put her 9 points down.
    Platner has made some dodgy social media posts though, even if Collins finally proves unable to defy the blue tide in Maine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otr9AiDDrTg
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    ydoethur said:

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    Seems, madam? Nay it is, I know not seems.
    Tis not alone the MAGA hat, good mother
    Nor customary robes of Trumpian black
    Nor windy suspiration of forced breath
    Nor not the fruitful river of the eye
    As I behold the addled orange visage,
    Together with all forms, moods, shapes of greed,
    That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
    For they are actions that a man might play:
    But I have that within which passeth show;
    These but the trappings and the suits I throw.
    ydoethur said:

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    Seems, madam? Nay it is, I know not seems.
    Tis not alone the MAGA hat, good mother
    Nor customary robes of Trumpian black
    Nor windy suspiration of forced breath
    Nor not the fruitful river of the eye
    As I behold the addled orange visage,
    Together with all forms, moods, shapes of greed,
    That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
    For they are actions that a man might play:
    But I have that within which passeth show;
    These but the trappings and the suits I throw.
    Yesterday, I had people on a WhatsApp group demanding that the UK government ban Fake News.

    They got very upset when I pointed out that Donald Fucking Trump is using the FCC to try and ban his definition of Fake News.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,928
    F1: Ben Sulayem takes a predictable but rather cliched step of wanting to remove term limits:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/clyp7l7zxdyo
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,086
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,891
    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    I need to finish my piece comparing Donald Trump to Vladimir Harkonnen.
    That would be very rude to the Baron.

    No, wait…
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote

    Susan Collins is toast in Maine. Even the most favourable polls put her 9 points down.
    Platner has made some dodgy social media posts though, even if Collins finally proves unable to defy the blue tide in Maine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otr9AiDDrTg
    There is undoubtedly a certain irony that of the two Platner is noticeably the more Trumpian candidate.

    But she's still toast.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    It reminds me of the comment yesterday that London is the nicest major city in the world to live in.

    Yes,that's likely true, but that's not a great recommendation.

    The Thames is cleaner than the Seine or the Danube? I mean, show me a low bar.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,909
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    It reminds me of the comment yesterday that London is the nicest major city in the world to live in.

    Yes,that's likely true, but that's not a great recommendation.

    The Thames is cleaner than the Seine or the Danube? I mean, show me a low bar.
    The Ganges?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    eek said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    It reminds me of the comment yesterday that London is the nicest major city in the world to live in.

    Yes,that's likely true, but that's not a great recommendation.

    The Thames is cleaner than the Seine or the Danube? I mean, show me a low bar.
    The Ganges?
    That's not in Europe, although it would probably strengthen your point.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,891
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    Alan Millburn just on R4 saying ‘always interesting’ Tony Blair was right that politics/the Labour Party no longer has a cause. A pretty good cause would be a proper national industrial and economic policy (English or UK) rather than tinkering round the edges. However no breath holding advised.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566
    I cannot unsee this now


  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,333

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,891

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
    Time to panic buy pre-grated Parmesan.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,424

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    The way the water companies are going, it’s probably cleaning up the sea when it arrives
  • eekeek Posts: 33,909
    edited May 28

    Due to a glorious typo, today I will be delivering a letter to Bonita Raving Stables

    One of Mrs Eek's uni friends has the nickname Handbag. The number of variations of that I've used over the years when sending items there is infinite..

    It also means she's had to explain the nickname to at least 3 of her neighbours.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,928
    Big gap between lightning and thunder just now, which I'm rather grateful for as the rumble was huge.

    Forecast rather less than accurate.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Yes once again as he did in the 2018 and 2022 midterms Trump's endorsements of controversial GOP nominees could hand key Senate races to the Democrats. Cornyn as a relatively moderate and experienced establishment Republican Senator would probably have held Texas. Paxton as GOP nominee though gives Talarico a real chance to take the seat and for the Democrats to win their first statewide race in Texas since 1994 and the first Democrat Senator for Texas since Lloyd Bentsen won in 1988 when Dukakis' losing VP nominee.

    With several other state Senate races with GOP incumbents like North Carolina and Alaska and Iowa and Ohio leaning Democrat or tossups that could give the Democrats the 4 gains they need to take control of the Senate. Or at least give Susan Collins, the moderate establishment Maine Senator who is one of the last Republicans left in Congress who voted to convict Trump, the casting vote

    Susan Collins is toast in Maine. Even the most favourable polls put her 9 points down.
    Platner has made some dodgy social media posts though, even if Collins finally proves unable to defy the blue tide in Maine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otr9AiDDrTg
    There is undoubtedly a certain irony that of the two Platner is noticeably the more Trumpian candidate.

    But she's still toast.
    I think the only concern Democrats have is that he might turn out to be another Fetterman.
    On balance, that seems unlikely.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
    Time to panic buy pre-grated Parmesan.
    Does it freeze well ?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,242

    Due to a glorious typo, today I will be delivering a letter to Bonita Raving Stables

    Get a tip or two when you are there. ;-)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    Know you know.

    Passengers sometimes hear an odd, rhythmic “thumping” just after takeoff, when the gear is retracted. Particularly if seated near the front.

    That’s the nose gear, and the wheels being stopped once they get into the bay. Unlike the main gear, which applies some brakes before pulling in the wheels, the nose gear has no brakes installed.

    So, to stop the wheels, it pulls the gear up until the tires come in contact with “snubbers”. These are flexible strips w/ a bit of rubber mounted to them. As the tires come in contact, the snubbers slow & stop them. In the picture, you can see some rubber gets flung around the nose gear bay.

    Anyway, contact is not always perfect, so you sometimes get a rhythmic thumping as the wheels slow. Other times you may hear it as a constant sound for a few seconds that seems to slow down & change pitch…and slowing down is exactly what’s happening.

    https://x.com/MCCCANM/status/2059776257563427246
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,675

    Due to a glorious typo, today I will be delivering a letter to Bonita Raving Stables

    She's a very good trainer but more for the jumpers than the flat.

    She might have a few novices for the summer jumping meetings.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,375
    Nigelb said:

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
    Time to panic buy pre-grated Parmesan.
    Does it freeze well ?
    Do what Samuel Pepys did in the Great Fire of London - bury it in the garden...
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,258
    Nigelb said:

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
    Time to panic buy pre-grated Parmesan.
    Does it freeze well ?
    You can grate it from frozen
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,258

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    I need to finish my piece comparing Donald Trump to Vladimir Harkonnen.
    That would be very rude to the Baron.

    No, wait…
    I presume TSE would compare Trump unfavourably to the Baron
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,086

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,675
    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    I need to finish my piece comparing Donald Trump to Vladimir Harkonnen.
    That would be very rude to the Baron.

    No, wait…
    I presume TSE would compare Trump unfavourably to the Baron
    Barron's a bit of a twat too.

    Oh, sorry, you meant Baron Harkonnen?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,186
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,675
    It seems three oil and two gas carriers have got through the supposedly "closed" Strait of Hormuz overnight.

    Desperate captains are turning off transponders and running the blockade it would seem.

    One tanker has 2 million barrels of Saudi crude for China and another has 1,8 million barrels of Emirati crude for India.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,186
    stodge said:

    Due to a glorious typo, today I will be delivering a letter to Bonita Raving Stables

    She's a very good trainer but more for the jumpers than the flat.

    She might have a few novices for the summer jumping meetings.
    I have a recollection she lost 2 years of her career almost at one point as most of her horses got severe bronchial infections from Oil Seed Rape Crops a farmer had planted close to her main gallops.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602

    I take so many images of moths that are expected to be just record shots of no other worth. But just occassionally, you get one where it all comes together...

    Striped Hawkmoth, at the maximum point of the upbeat.


    How does a miserable pessimist Hawkmoth look ?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,675
    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    Yes, there was a time when labour was cheap and migrant labour the cheapest of all.

    Indeed, the availability of cheap labour was a disincentive to business investment and automaton and, some argued, a drag on productivity improvement.

    How many worked in your Black Sheep, Costa or Starbucks in say 2018 compared with today? The big difference is many have automated ordering facilities so you don't need the numbers - you just people to make coffee and clear tables.

    There's another question about the cost of employing staff which isn't just what you pay them.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,186
    edited May 28

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    Alan Millburn just on R4 saying ‘always interesting’ Tony Blair was right that politics/the Labour Party no longer has a cause. A pretty good cause would be a proper national industrial and economic policy (English or UK) rather than tinkering round the edges. However no breath holding advised.
    Those problems go back 30 to 40 years

    Cars
    Steel
    Mines
    Glass
    General Manufacturers
    Even Sauces...

    I'm reliably told that massive issues that AVFC had for years with pitches was after HP Sauce factory closed.

    Didn't affect St Andrews, like most Religious Shrines it's on top of a hill.WBA is the highest ground above sea level in England

    The millions of gallons that the Factory constantly used effectively turned the area in to a swamp
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 41,035
    "Evil" is not too strong a word for the Orange Golgothan, and his minions.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,133
    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,130

    Mandelson vetting warned of ties to senior figures in China, Russia and Israel
    Exclusive: Vetting officials also flagged £1m loan when recommending he should be denied security clearance

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/27/mandelson-vetting-warned-ties-senior-figures-china-russia-israel

    How much of this was new though?

    In looking at rules and regulations, we need to get the concept of Logical Equivalence into the heads of the politicians and civil servants.

    That is, what does the system you create actually do?

    In the case of the elaborate vetting for senior jobs in government, it actually resolves to “Give him the job because he knows the right people”.

    Which is a mild variation on “Give him the job because he went to the right school and knows the right kind of people”.

    #NU10K same as #OLD10K
    As someone involved in both auditing and (more recently) anti-money laundering, the amount of banal, inane questions filled in with an answer is both astronomical and disheartening. Who do people think they are kidding having 50 page questionnaires about 'fit and proper' or 'auditor independence' or whatever else they ask.

    If answering the question doesn't have the potential to change the answer (you want), then there is no point asking the question.

    Did the government, and probably Keir Starmer, want Mandelson as US Ambassador? Yes.
    There was therefore no point doing the vetting. Just say, "We're not doing vetting, waste of time, this is happening anyway."

    Save everyone the time and effort to do a pointless task.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,675

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    The question then is why our electricity prices are so high and many will argue lining the pockets of shareholders isn't a good idea not is subsidising electricity costs for customers in other countries.
  • Groceries seem like one of the few things that the UK is genuinely very good at pricing competitively. Indeed we are very closest to the cheapest in Europe.
  • @TheScreamingEagles you made a point that one member since departed, should not have their account private. Why are others still allowed when I understood that you wanted all accounts public?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,876
    edited May 28

    @TheScreamingEagles you made a point that one member since departed, should not have their account private. Why are others still allowed when I understood that you wanted all accounts public?

    Why do you care so much? How often do you need to go into other posters’ pasts and for what reason?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,501
    So who has made more U turns - Burnham or Jenrick ?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,057

    So who has made more U turns - Burnham or Jenrick ?

    Burnham's are swerves not U-turns. He's still going in the same direction.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,355

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    You might be grateful for that come the end of the year.

    Britain ‘sleepwalking into a food crisis’
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/28/britain-sleepwalking-into-a-food-crisis-without-urgent-action-experts-say
    Those "experts" are basically lobbyist[s for farmers or overpriced grocery chains, who want more protection and public money.

    There's no shortage of food in the world; none is likely; and the danger to food supply in this country is that we can't afford it because of protectionism and our poor economic performance, not that it's unavailable for some reason.
  • boulay said:

    @TheScreamingEagles you made a point that one member since departed, should not have their account private. Why are others still allowed when I understood that you wanted all accounts public?

    Why do you care so much? How often do you need to go into poster’s pasts and for what reason?
    Because people shouldn’t be able to hide behind their posts.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,989
    edited May 28
    stodge said:

    It seems three oil and two gas carriers have got through the supposedly "closed" Strait of Hormuz overnight.

    Desperate captains are turning off transponders and running the blockade it would seem.

    One tanker has 2 million barrels of Saudi crude for China and another has 1,8 million barrels of Emirati crude for India.

    An Idemitsu tanker just made it back to Japan, it was the first Idemitsu tanker to run a blockade of Iran since the Idemitsu Nissho Maru outfoxed the Royal Navy in 1953.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,128
    Whilst talking about all things crazy in the US. Elon's ex and it made me smile. (Perhaps too much information for many of us but the interviewer guides us through it!)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByAGlvj3bfE
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    Alan Millburn just on R4 saying ‘always interesting’ Tony Blair was right that politics/the Labour Party no longer has a cause. A pretty good cause would be a proper national industrial and economic policy (English or UK) rather than tinkering round the edges. However no breath holding advised.
    Shame that neither he nor Blair came up with that idea while in office.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,501

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Put the leftovers in the bin and replace with frozen pizzas, frozen ready meals and frozen vegetables.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,484
    Dopermean said:

    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
    We already spend enormous amounts on "apprenticeships" though, do we not?

    Now renamed to something else, but raising £4.4 billion per annum:

    The Growth and Skills Levy (formerly the Apprenticeship Levy) is expected to raise approximately £4.4 billion for the current financial year. This funding is primarily generated by UK employers with an annual pay bill exceeding £3 million, who contribute 0.5% of their payroll into the scheme.
    (Google AI answring the question.)

    I'm not close enough to it to know whether it is effective, or whether employers have found ways of diverting the money into something else (aiui the mechanism is quite circular).

    On electricity prices, I think there needs to be some more flexibility in the market - somehow. We need to stop teh price of cheap renewables being determined by the price of expensive, volatile, gas. SKS has failed to do it, for reasons I cannot fathom.

    A mechanism is required for heavy users to avoid the slings and arrows over the long term, and another to let the lower prices of renewables be widely apparent.

    There are things we can point to - the freeze on any new rounds of wind projects from 2010 to 2020 being one, but SKS has metaphorically stood in the Farage Firing Range and machine-gunned himself in the head, with Farage needing to do nothing.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,467

    Battlebus said:

    I see the DOJ are going after Carroll now. Seems the US government and its agencies are now the personal fiefdom of the Trump family.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5898599-carroll-trump-defamation-probe-doj/

    I need to finish my piece comparing Donald Trump to Vladimir Harkonnen.
    Insufficiently dead for an accurate comparison, though perhaps a Trump granddaughter might volunteer to do the deed and make the comparison complete.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,467
    ydoethur said:

    'Paedo Protector Paxton' has a nicely alliterative ring as a slogan.

    Assuming they think, what were the Republican voters thinking?

    As we often observe, "whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad"
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,932
    ydoethur said:

    'Paedo Protector Paxton' has a nicely alliterative ring as a slogan.

    Assuming they think, what were the Republican voters thinking?

    The Republican voters live in a Fox News/social media bubble.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
    ...On electricity prices, I think there needs to be some more flexibility in the market - somehow. We need to stop teh price of cheap renewables being determined by the price of expensive, volatile, gas. SKS has failed to do it, for reasons I cannot fathom.

    A mechanism is required for heavy users to avoid the slings and arrows over the long term, and another to let the lower prices of renewables be widely apparent.

    There are things we can point to - the freeze on any new rounds of wind projects from 2010 to 2020 being one, but SKS has metaphorically stood in the Farage Firing Range and machine-gunned himself in the head, with Farage needing to do nothing.
    A European market might help...

  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,484
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    I would be interested to know what he means by "English Midlands"; it is not a region.

    I'm assuming primarily hollowing out of Birmingham, and also the auto industry.

    Though presumably Denby Pottery (500 jobs) may come within the locus.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,860
    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
    ...On electricity prices, I think there needs to be some more flexibility in the market - somehow. We need to stop teh price of cheap renewables being determined by the price of expensive, volatile, gas. SKS has failed to do it, for reasons I cannot fathom.

    A mechanism is required for heavy users to avoid the slings and arrows over the long term, and another to let the lower prices of renewables be widely apparent.

    There are things we can point to - the freeze on any new rounds of wind projects from 2010 to 2020 being one, but SKS has metaphorically stood in the Farage Firing Range and machine-gunned himself in the head, with Farage needing to do nothing.
    A European market might help...

    There's about 10 GW of interconnector across the Channel/North Sea, with about the same amount of capacity being built.

    Most of it went online on the last decade or so; it's good to see that we were getting something right.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,139
    edited May 28

    Groceries seem like one of the few things that the UK is genuinely very good at pricing competitively. Indeed we are very closest to the cheapest in Europe.

    I think when you consider everything, the real (Adjusting for bank and gilt rates) cost of a mortgage is very cheap compared to elsewhere. The best buy 5 year is 0.07% below the same gilt right now.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506

    Mandelson vetting warned of ties to senior figures in China, Russia and Israel
    Exclusive: Vetting officials also flagged £1m loan when recommending he should be denied security clearance

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/27/mandelson-vetting-warned-ties-senior-figures-china-russia-israel

    How much of this was new though?

    In looking at rules and regulations, we need to get the concept of Logical Equivalence into the heads of the politicians and civil servants.

    That is, what does the system you create actually do?

    In the case of the elaborate vetting for senior jobs in government, it actually resolves to “Give him the job because he knows the right people”.

    Which is a mild variation on “Give him the job because he went to the right school and knows the right kind of people”.

    #NU10K same as #OLD10K
    As someone involved in both auditing and (more recently) anti-money laundering, the amount of banal, inane questions filled in with an answer is both astronomical and disheartening. Who do people think they are kidding having 50 page questionnaires about 'fit and proper' or 'auditor independence' or whatever else they ask.

    If answering the question doesn't have the potential to change the answer (you want), then there is no point asking the question.

    Did the government, and probably Keir Starmer, want Mandelson as US Ambassador? Yes.
    There was therefore no point doing the vetting. Just say, "We're not doing vetting, waste of time, this is happening anyway."

    Save everyone the time and effort to do a pointless task.
    We had this around the time of the Great Financial Crisis

    “The banks are doing vast amounts of pointless checkbox stuff. Not actually looking at real problems”

    “So you in favour of total deregulation”

    “No, regulation that regulates”

    “But you want less regulation. More regulation is always good”…

    Then they discovered that no one had been paying attention to risk - not on the regulatory forms, you see.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,932
    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
    We already spend enormous amounts on "apprenticeships" though, do we not?

    Now renamed to something else, but raising £4.4 billion per annum:

    The Growth and Skills Levy (formerly the Apprenticeship Levy) is expected to raise approximately £4.4 billion for the current financial year. This funding is primarily generated by UK employers with an annual pay bill exceeding £3 million, who contribute 0.5% of their payroll into the scheme.
    (Google AI answring the question.)

    I'm not close enough to it to know whether it is effective, or whether employers have found ways of diverting the money into something else (aiui the mechanism is quite circular).

    On electricity prices, I think there needs to be some more flexibility in the market - somehow. We need to stop teh price of cheap renewables being determined by the price of expensive, volatile, gas. SKS has failed to do it, for reasons I cannot fathom.

    A mechanism is required for heavy users to avoid the slings and arrows over the long term, and another to let the lower prices of renewables be widely apparent.

    There are things we can point to - the freeze on any new rounds of wind projects from 2010 to 2020 being one, but SKS has metaphorically stood in the Farage Firing Range and machine-gunned himself in the head, with Farage needing to do nothing.
    The apprenticeship scheme is over-engineered and works poorly.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,484
    edited May 28

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    Brixian59 said:

    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    It looks as though the MIlburn Report will be a damning indictment of failure of successive Governments who have seriously compromised the future propects of a generation.

    When I was in local Government, and I confess I was only on the periphery of this, there was a requirement for every 16-18 year old certainly to be either in work, education, training or on some scheme. The Council partnered with a provider and used space at local libraries and youth centres to run the training.

    It's always been the way (well, it was when I graduated back in the late Permian) employers are reluctant to take on staff, however well qualified, without experience and you can't get that experience without a job. The public sector did its bit - we took on trainees in a number of the professions and supported them through their qualifications in the sure knowledge once they got their accreditation, they would be off to a much better paid job in the private sector.

    There was of course a time when every graduate became a barista but I suspect that's not the case. I worked in betting shops marking the board as was the fashion in the Triassic.

    There's a lot of talk about apprenticeships and that has to be the way to go for those less academically gifted but that needs far more from all sectors of industry than seems to be about currently.

    The cost of everything, the value of nothing.

    Boris wave

    Park a problem that had built up before Covid and which Boris palpably ignilored after it.

    Regards
    You can do apprenticeships in various professions, you always could, engineering via CAD trainee to HND or degree, legal exec to solicitor, accountancy etc, whether the "new" apprenticeships have added anything
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    During 2017 one friend of mine, then the organist at Cannock, spoke of his great frustration that politicians talked all about the financial markets in London and not one of them understood that manufacturing was the backbone of the economy of the Midlands.

    He was right then and he's right now, but it's probably too late to do much about it.
    I used to work at the lighting factory in Cannock. Not there anymore.

    Used to employ hundreds.

    Manufacturing has been in decline for many years and people in power happy for it to be. Same with hospitality
    People in manufacturing say it’s ’leccy prices that have been killing them, the last few years.

    Consumers have been protected,

    Among other things, it blocks productivity improvement - install machinery, then pay a fortune to run it.
    Well why would you even bother ?

    Just thrash your existing assets.

    High energy pricing certainly is a problem. Less so for a screwdriver facility than a primary manufacturer like a trade moulder or casting company.

    Who would set up a manufacturing company in the UK that was energy intensive now unless you’re going to get a lot of cash from HMG.

    But there have been other problems too. Govt policy has not been keen to keep key product or commodity production in this country.

    My last company was fortunate that it was able to negotiate a corporate deal for electricity. It was still a big chunk of spend. They, foolishly, invested in new end capping machines which use a fair bit of electricity in the process as it’s hot plate welding. All to grow the Business.

    The growth never came as the sale price was too high so they had part utilised assets. Cut the price and you’re on the corporate naughty step for too low a margin.
    If the new machinery was more energy efficient it could be worth it perhaps.
    The consumer support was politically expedient stupidity, it did nothing to promote energy efficiency that would have had longterm benefits, just subsidised demand.
    ...On electricity prices, I think there needs to be some more flexibility in the market - somehow. We need to stop teh price of cheap renewables being determined by the price of expensive, volatile, gas. SKS has failed to do it, for reasons I cannot fathom.

    A mechanism is required for heavy users to avoid the slings and arrows over the long term, and another to let the lower prices of renewables be widely apparent.

    There are things we can point to - the freeze on any new rounds of wind projects from 2010 to 2020 being one, but SKS has metaphorically stood in the Farage Firing Range and machine-gunned himself in the head, with Farage needing to do nothing.
    A European market might help...

    There's about 10 GW of interconnector across the Channel/North Sea, with about the same amount of capacity being built.

    Most of it went online on the last decade or so; it's good to see that we were getting something right.
    Yes - however that is long term, as is the process of pushing gas supply off the grid by secular change. Renewables will eventually lower prices but a ten to twenty-five year process is too slow, and gives room for immense damage to be done in the meantime, and the opportunity for fake narratives from the likes of Richard Stupid Tice.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,171

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I don't have an issue with that. Is there a list of what SHOULD be there?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,171

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    This is one of the issues I have with the narrative that all our rivers are full of shit and pollution. We have lots of data now because we are actively monitoring. And our rivers are far better than they were in say the middle of the last century. Were not many of the rivers in big cities functionally dead not long ago?

    We clearly need to do even more to avoid farmland run-off and sewage directly entering the rivers, but we should remember that we have made significant progress.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,891
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    I would be interested to know what he means by "English Midlands"; it is not a region.

    I'm assuming primarily hollowing out of Birmingham, and also the auto industry.

    Though presumably Denby Pottery (500 jobs) may come within the locus.
    I guess it'll be an amalgamation of West Midlands and East Midlands as on the chart in another of his tweets.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059746975507993023?s=20
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,484

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore
    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    That's the Freezer that belonged to the Old Took.

    "Over the years and the decades, the Old Took and his room grew older and shabbier together."
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    This is one of the issues I have with the narrative that all our rivers are full of shit and pollution. We have lots of data now because we are actively monitoring. And our rivers are far better than they were in say the middle of the last century. Were not many of the rivers in big cities functionally dead not long ago?

    We clearly need to do even more to avoid farmland run-off and sewage directly entering the rivers, but we should remember that we have made significant progress.
    The most recent improvements, with the Thames, are a function of the entry into service of the new super sewer - the huge new sewer bored under the Thames.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,314
    edited May 28
    Duplicate post. What's with the duplicates? This never used to happen when I posted.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,314

    The British food revolution.
    This is painfully accurate, and were it not for my partner regularly going through the food cupboards and fridge freezer like a dose of salts would largely be me.


    What British people have in their freezers:

    -Frozen peas (some in a bag, some rolling around loose)
    -Full bag of oven chips
    -Another bag with three oven chips left in it
    -Tupperware half-filled with unidentified brown stuff
    -Half a scoop of mash potato that you saved for some reason
    -An empty box that used to contain ice lollies that fools you every time you look in it but you still don’t throw it away
    -Bag of hash browns
    -Some sort of meat joint (possibly lamb) from 2014
    -A near-empty ice cream tub
    -Something that might be chilli or might be bolognese but you didn’t label it
    -Some party food from three Christmases ago
    -An empty bag that used to contain ice cubes
    -A pack of chicken or fish that you needed to eat but you chucked it in the freezer because you ordered a takeaway instead
    -One drawer that doesn’t open anymore


    https://x.com/soverybritish/status/2059707754181267628?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I've written an app that my family uses to keep track of leftovers in the freezer. Every time we cook too much to eat, the remainder goes into a labelled tupperware box and is put in the freezer and registered on the app. Then, if no-one fancies cooking one evening, we'll each select one of the leftovers for defrosting. The app tracks content, date of freezing, amount, etc. It's called "Leftovers". Perhaps I should make it more widely available (and think up a better name for it!).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    I would be interested to know what he means by "English Midlands"; it is not a region.

    I'm assuming primarily hollowing out of Birmingham, and also the auto industry.

    Though presumably Denby Pottery (500 jobs) may come within the locus.
    He's planning an article when the official numbers come out, which will be interesting.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,700
    Alun Milburn doing the rounds and being portrayed as some kind of expert on welfare and social justice

    He is neither 2 decades ago he was the pro PFI health secretary, now he & his family trouser millions from his consultancy work for private healthcare interests.

    Alun Milburn is another of Mandlesons boys
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,501

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    This is one of the issues I have with the narrative that all our rivers are full of shit and pollution. We have lots of data now because we are actively monitoring. And our rivers are far better than they were in say the middle of the last century. Were not many of the rivers in big cities functionally dead not long ago?

    We clearly need to do even more to avoid farmland run-off and sewage directly entering the rivers, but we should remember that we have made significant progress.
    Atlantic salmon have been confirmed as breeding in the River Don for the first time in more than two centuries.

    The Don Catchment Rivers Trust (DCRT) said discovering a wild-born salmon in the river was the first evidence of successful spawning since they were wiped out by pollution and man-made barriers in the 18th and 19th Centuries.

    It follows more than two decades of installing fish passes to reconnect the river, allowing salmon to return.

    The trust's co-founder Chris Firth described the discovery of the fish as the "culmination" of his life's work.

    He said although adult salmon had been spotted before in the river the trust had not been sure if they were managing to spawn.

    The young fish, known as a parr, was found during an electrofishing survey in Sheffield this month by DCRT staff and volunteers.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly7gqx2zw0o
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,506
    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    I would be interested to know what he means by "English Midlands"; it is not a region.

    I'm assuming primarily hollowing out of Birmingham, and also the auto industry.

    Though presumably Denby Pottery (500 jobs) may come within the locus.
    He's planning an article when the official numbers come out, which will be interesting.
    If only all official stats were dashboarded - and available as a JSON feed.

    But after COVID the dashboard team was hurriedly disbanded to prevent ideas like that happening. Because officials thought that information = power and didn’t want to give it up.

    Someone put it in their manifesto, please.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,860

    ydoethur said:

    London is a dump, part II


    Probably loads of dead bodies under that water
    Certainly if you go swimming in it.
    Actually the cleanest capital city river in Europe.

    We monitor the water quality on a daily basis at the club.

    The local seal popped up while I was out, yesterday.
    This is one of the issues I have with the narrative that all our rivers are full of shit and pollution. We have lots of data now because we are actively monitoring. And our rivers are far better than they were in say the middle of the last century. Were not many of the rivers in big cities functionally dead not long ago?

    We clearly need to do even more to avoid farmland run-off and sewage directly entering the rivers, but we should remember that we have made significant progress.
    The most recent improvements, with the Thames, are a function of the entry into service of the new super sewer - the huge new sewer bored under the Thames.
    And ferociously opposed beforehand;

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30931950

    Because of course it was.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,909

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pretty scary numbers if the official figures in a month's time confirm this:

    It's very preliminary data, but I think that the region of the UK with the highest fiscal deficit as % of GVA has moved for the first time I've ever known it, to be in England...

    ..The erosion of the economy of the English Midlands from being a net contributor to the national finances in 2000 to now running a bigger deficit than Greece at the deepest point of its financial crisis is an economic catastrophe and a deep threat to our country's survival.

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2059748175947194392

    I would be interested to know what he means by "English Midlands"; it is not a region.

    I'm assuming primarily hollowing out of Birmingham, and also the auto industry.

    Though presumably Denby Pottery (500 jobs) may come within the locus.
    He's planning an article when the official numbers come out, which will be interesting.
    If only all official stats were dashboarded - and available as a JSON feed.

    But after COVID the dashboard team was hurriedly disbanded to prevent ideas like that happening. Because officials thought that information = power and didn’t want to give it up.

    Someone put it in their manifesto, please.
    It won’t be reform and it feels a very Green policy
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,602
    Back on topic, this is quite the development in Texas politics.
    Big solar embraces the tactics of big oil.

    Chip Roy lost his bid for Texas attorney general last night. He was one of the solar industry's biggest opponents in Congress. And a group of clean energy investors decided there had to be a consequence.

    They ran hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of attack ads calling him "not MAGA enough." The ads never mentioned clean energy once. They forced Roy into a runoff, which he lost yesterday.


    I recently sat down with one of the lead donors to the campaign: Chris Larsen, the billionaire co-founder of Ripple, who is now investing heavily in climate.

    Chris was one of the lead investors in crypto's Fairshake campaign that turned the industry from a regulatory target into one of the most feared political forces in Washington. It spent nearly half of all corporate political dollars in the 2024 cycle and won over 95% of the races it engaged in.

    He thinks clean energy can do the same thing. And he does not mince words about what that requires: "This is political warfare. You talk about what works. You talk about what's going to take out that person."

    I also sat down with his co-founder at the Clean Break Fund: Mike Brune, the longest-serving executive director of the Sierra Club.

    "The next time someone votes against the solar industry, there's a lot of money that could come after them in the next primary or the next election," Brune said.

    The clean energy industry has been historically focused on making the affirmative case by highlighting economic benefits, building coalitions, and telling a positive story. But Chris and Mike think that the industry needs to get more serious about delivering political consequences.

    "The worst thing you want in a political fight is for your opponents to think you're weak," Chris told the room.

    There's still a massive spending gap between renewables and fossil fuels. In 2024, the entire renewable energy industry donated $2.5 million to political campaigns. Oil and gas donated $75 million just to elect Trump.

    That gap won't close quickly, but it's the first sign that the industry is serious about taking the gloves off.

    https://x.com/Stphn_Lacey/status/2059677360329273577
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