Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
I am in the US for most of when the tournament is on, but just dismissed even bothering to look at if I might be able to snag tickets as everything looks insane on the price front. But cost of sports and concerts in the US, like we talked about hotels, has gone through the roof. I managed to snag resale NHL tickets couple of months ago in the North America and the face value on the ticket was $400.
I’m sorry Wes is a muppet. Rejoining the EU is the last thing we need to be talking about. He’s gone way down in my estimation.
Alternatively, he's a ruthless little sh1t who wants to make life difficult for St Andy of the North.
If Andy makes pro-Europe noises now, it's harder for him to become an MP. If he doesn't, it's harder for him to become PM.
If Mr Mayor hadn't spent quite so much time making life difficult for Labour in Westminster, one might almost feel sorry for him.
Rejoin is one of the few things someone on the right of the party can say and be confident of the vast majority of members agreeing. I'd have been astonished if it wasn't a big part of Wes's pitch.
Agreed, but that's a reason to say it during the leadership race, not now.
Yes, it's Streeting acting wholeheartedly in the Streeting interest.
So no different to Burnham then. Or anyone else.
Couple of very ambitious guys these. Which I guess you need to be tbf.
Nigeria and the United States say they have killed a senior Islamic State (IS) leader in a joint-operation.
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Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
It’s a public schools game co-opted by the plebs, just going full circle. If it was the working class game it would be played on the street by men with flat caps using the head of the village halfwit as a ball.
If you turn your last sentence round you have a description of the Labour cabinet. Village halfwits using men with flat caps as the ball.
Just as losing it does not mean Reform are walking into No 10.
Is Makerfield pronounced “Mack” or “Make”? Have heard both recently since it became the centre of the universe.
It's never been pronounced Mack by anyone who's ever been there.* So that's why you're hearing the media experts on this by election using it.
*Or indeed anyone with level 2 phonics.
I did think that but we do have some very odd pronunciations of English place names compared to how they are spelt.
Fair enough. But this one isn't. I'm wondering if this is coming from folk who've heard of Macclesfield, a vague place north of Birmingham and think this is it.
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
I am in the US for most of when the tournament is on, but just dismissed even bothering to look at if I might be able to snag tickets as everything looks insane on the price front. But cost of sports and concerts in the US, like we talked about hotels, has gone through the roof. I managed to snag resale NHL tickets couple of months ago in the North America and the face value on the ticket was $400.
Agreed, it does seem totally crazy. I looked at going to US to watch the F1, Austin was reasonable enough, $800 for the weekend, same as Silverstone, but Miami and Vegas were totally crazy, like $10k a ticket. There’s obviously a new upper-class of 1m people or so, who make so much money that they can spend every weekend at whatever’s the biggest event.
Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
Around a week after Scotland qualified, a friend booked accommodation in Boston for 9 nights, just under 3k sterling spent, via air b and b type site. A few days later the booking was cancelled, no doubt to be listed at a much higher price, £5k plus.
You could see the writing on the wall then, and its got worse now people see the transport costs of getting to the stadiums
I'm just wondering if the orange faced one is going to paint the saltire on some tubby Americans and bedeck them in cheap kilts to pump up the crowd numbers for the Scotland games?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
I am in the US for most of when the tournament is on, but just dismissed even bothering to look at if I might be able to snag tickets as everything looks insane on the price front. But cost of sports and concerts in the US, like we talked about hotels, has gone through the roof. I managed to snag resale NHL tickets couple of months ago in the North America and the face value on the ticket was $400.
Agreed, it does seem totally crazy. I looked at going to US to watch the F1, Austin was reasonable enough, $800 for the weekend, same as Silverstone, but Miami and Vegas were totally crazy, like $10k a ticket. There’s obviously a new upper-class of 1m people or so, who make so much money that they can spend every weekend at whatever’s the biggest event.
For many of them it's probably their companies rather than them which pay.
And most of them probably ignore the tedious, pointless spectacle of cars going round and round and concentrate on the serious businesses of networking and getting buzzed.
Am I the only one who didn’t think much of Oppenheimer?
Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
"Congressman, you could use a shovel in making atomic weapons. In fact, you do. You could use a bottle of beer in making atomic weapons. In fact, you do. I’d say isotopes are less useful than electronic components, but more useful than a sandwich!"
Am I the only one who didn’t think much of Oppenheimer?
Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
It was very well made and acted, but it was over long, decent but not brilliant in its writing, and was severely overhyped - otherwise known as a Christopher Nolan film.
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
And all the time nobody kept an eye on the Tories as they snuck up the outside to victory.
And then Kemi woke up from her dream.
Seriously though. This is the third by election defended by the most unpopular government in history. And the official opposition haven't made double figures in percentage yet. I wouldn't put money on the 8% needed to be the best performance of the three.
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
And all the time nobody kept an eye on the Tories as they snuck up the outside to victory.
And then Kemi woke up from her dream.
Seriously though. This is the third by election defended by the most unpopular government in history. And the official opposition haven't made double figures in percentage yet. I wouldn't put money on the 8% needed to be the best performance of the three.
Yes, it's becoming 'normal' for them to have not even a shot, and the longer that goes on the more damaging it is. Already they get put under pressure to not stand and so split the right vote, but the instant they do that they are giving up on even claiming to be main opposition.
Am I the only one who didn’t think much of Oppenheimer?
Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
It was very well made and acted, but it was over long, decent but not brilliant in its writing, and was severely overhyped - otherwise known as a Christopher Nolan film.
The Dark Knight is the best superhero movie ever made, Batman Begins close behind!
Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
I am in the US for most of when the tournament is on, but just dismissed even bothering to look at if I might be able to snag tickets as everything looks insane on the price front. But cost of sports and concerts in the US, like we talked about hotels, has gone through the roof. I managed to snag resale NHL tickets couple of months ago in the North America and the face value on the ticket was $400.
Agreed, it does seem totally crazy. I looked at going to US to watch the F1, Austin was reasonable enough, $800 for the weekend, same as Silverstone, but Miami and Vegas were totally crazy, like $10k a ticket. There’s obviously a new upper-class of 1m people or so, who make so much money that they can spend every weekend at whatever’s the biggest event.
For many of them it's probably their companies rather than them which pay.
And most of them probably ignore the tedious, pointless spectacle of cars going round and round and concentrate on the serious businesses of networking and getting buzzed.
I could understand the hospitality areas being really expensive, but I was looking at regular grandstand seats not the Paddock Club. No-one is doing business in the cheap seats!
Are all the empty seats at the footy because they are decieded to go to the Tommy rally instead?
If they are nearer the centre they're more likely hospitality seats. Wembley is an expensive day out. Chelsea end is fairly packed
Definitely loads of the half way line corporate ones are empty, but either end around the corner flag there are empty seats. More in Man City section I would say.
In Man City's defence, this is the 24th time they've been to Wembley in the last decade and the third time in the last two months.
It's not cheap being a football fan, have you seen London prices/final ticket prices.
Yep. Cheapest tickets up in the gods are around £50 quid. Nearer the pitch, central, £285. A sport for the working class?
I would say £50 is quite reasonable. Gig tickets for artists who aren't on Taylor Swift level are now more than that. £300 less so.
The World Cup does look like it’s going to be Judgement Day for sky-high ticket costs and ultra-premium pricing of everything around an event.
My money is on a lot of local schoolkids getting bussed in to fill stadia for the early group matches, but the problem is that most of the tickets have actually been sold to the touts who think there’s going to be 80,000 people wanting to watch Croatia play Senegal* at $3,000 a seat.
* made-up fixture.
I am in the US for most of when the tournament is on, but just dismissed even bothering to look at if I might be able to snag tickets as everything looks insane on the price front. But cost of sports and concerts in the US, like we talked about hotels, has gone through the roof. I managed to snag resale NHL tickets couple of months ago in the North America and the face value on the ticket was $400.
Agreed, it does seem totally crazy. I looked at going to US to watch the F1, Austin was reasonable enough, $800 for the weekend, same as Silverstone, but Miami and Vegas were totally crazy, like $10k a ticket. There’s obviously a new upper-class of 1m people or so, who make so much money that they can spend every weekend at whatever’s the biggest event.
Also Americans will travel. So have money, will travel. They think nothing of "popping" somewhere via a 8hr drive to go to gig, or 5hr flight to go to the F1.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Am I the only one who didn’t think much of Oppenheimer?
Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
It was very well made and acted, but it was over long, decent but not brilliant in its writing, and was severely overhyped - otherwise known as a Christopher Nolan film.
The Dark Knight is the best superhero movie ever made, Batman Begins close behind!
I like his movies, they're just not as brilliant as most people think, in my opinion.
There was a line in Tenet (admittedly one which is not as well received), with someone saying something like 'Just try not to think about this complex and/or silly thing and move on', which is a fine sentiment for films in general, people can over criticise things, but I couldn't help but think Michael Bay would get a lot of shit if he used that same justification for his movies.
He's right about the double standards, the fact that there are so many other terrible nations and the irrational hatred but that does not excuse what Israel is doing in Gaza or Lebanon or even Iran. It is no defence to say others are worse.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
I’m sorry Wes is a muppet. Rejoining the EU is the last thing we need to be talking about. He’s gone way down in my estimation.
Alternatively, he's a ruthless little sh1t who wants to make life difficult for St Andy of the North.
If Andy makes pro-Europe noises now, it's harder for him to become an MP. If he doesn't, it's harder for him to become PM.
If Mr Mayor hadn't spent quite so much time making life difficult for Labour in Westminster, one might almost feel sorry for him.
Rejoin is one of the few things someone on the right of the party can say and be confident of the vast majority of members agreeing. I'd have been astonished if it wasn't a big part of Wes's pitch.
Agreed, but that's a reason to say it during the leadership race, not now.
Yes, it's Streeting acting wholeheartedly in the Streeting interest.
So no different to Burnham then. Or anyone else.
Couple of very ambitious guys these. Which I guess you need to be tbf.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
Saint Charles the Martyr is not particularly popular.
Am I the only one who didn’t think much of Oppenheimer?
Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
It was very well made and acted, but it was over long, decent but not brilliant in its writing, and was severely overhyped - otherwise known as a Christopher Nolan film.
It should have been an hour shorter . Those court scenes were overdone and that ridiculous foot stamping . For war related films my absolute favourite is The Immitation Game , an absolutely stunning score , great acting .
What really got me was all those amazing people who were never given the plaudits they deserved , and never allowed to speak a word about what they did , they were absolute heroes . Turing what an absolute legend .
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
How the myth that Labour have done nothing in 2 years became fixed in the minds of voters .
A relentless anti Labour campaign by the media and poor No 10 communications culminated in where we are today.
It isn't the task of the media to be a PR company for any government. This government has been terrible at communications, and especially the art of communicating convincingly by answering questions and not being evasive.
also terrible decision making. Sacking Robbins and then clinging on....
I think that is largely correct.
But neither is it the job of Allister Heath and Allison Pearson to represent fiction as fact. The job of the Telegraph ( and GB News and Talk TV) is to report the news objectively not to use smoke and mirrors to roll the pitch for the next Government in 3,4,5 years time. One could argue a competent Government should have the wherewithal to call out and correct inaccuracies, but it seems this one didn't.
Starmer is wholly to blame for this.
Largely agree, but there is no such thing as objective news coverage. They could all try harder to separate fact and opinion. So we have to rely on an open free media.
There are loads of outlets who would reasonably fairly but critically report on Labour doing well. Mirror, Guardian, FT, New Statesman, Economist, Ch4, ITV, BBC, Times to some extent, vast numbers on X and other social media. An infinity of podcasts.
As to the Right Wing media, in general they gave the Tories a hard time in government IIRC. I find it hard to follow because it's unreadable.
Whereas I accept there will be a bias when reporting news, any news, it is the out and out lies I was objecting to.
It's like giving a false equivalent to reporting by Rachel Maddows and. Jesse Watters. Maddows takes a story, reports the story and opines from the left. Jesse Watters ignores any story but just makes stuff up with no basis upon fact, to promote his cause, which is invariably Trump.
Largely agree. I think in this particular age the prevalence of lies is going to be a reality and unavoidable. I imagine most people just avoid wasting much time on lying outlets. I think everyone knows that in a social media age you have the same sort of duty towards fact checking and lie detection that you do towards locking your front door when you go on holiday.
In outlets regarded as responsible (there are lots) the principle distortion is done by story selection. Take the BBC, which I greatly admire. They would, I think, never run a series, fully researched, to try to demonstrate all the ways in which people manipulate and abuse the benefits and welfare system. Or do detailed case studies on how particular families spend years and generations doing little at our expense. (The sort of project the odious Matt Goodwin would be fond of). But they are never short of super people who are going to suffer egregiously from any change in the system.
The BBC are to an extent even more pernicious. Providing false equivalence is unforgivable. Giving equal billing to the Chairman of the World Bank and Andrea Leadsom to determine the economic effects of Brexit was outrageous. The BBC were also great exponents of the Minford Paradigm. Once again providing a disreputable but largely hidden false equivalence. Theyveould take their pick of any one of 1,000 economists who would maintain Brexit was an economic disaster against Patrick Minford, who was the only one who thought Brexit would be great.
Yet it hasn't been an economic disaster, nor anything resembling one, as has been demonstrated amply by some very good recent thread headers that I must have missed your rebbutal of. So Leadsom was more accurate than the Head of the World Bank, which rather seems to vindicate her being platformed.
My mistake. It was Pascal Lamy if the WTO.
Oh and you are wrong about the eloquent Fishing thread headers
Beautifully written but fundamentally wildly inaccurate.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
Wikipedia says he is, in that it says he was canonized and made a Doctor of the Church, which that page says is something that happens to saints, but no doubt there is some complicated ecclesiastical distinction at play which means he is one but not the other.
Heavenly bureaucracy is pretty bizarre, there's a lot of paperwork to fill out.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
Foxy's point perhaps explains it. He was canonised in 1899. So after the Reformation. So he is a Saint, but the C of E don't recognise it? I didn't realise Saints had grandfather rights.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Because they're all attached to the local church, which is normally dedicated to St. Summatorother. Or sometimes Holy Trinity. But that just replaces one question with another.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
Gosh. There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
Wikipedia says he is, in that it says he was canonized and made a Doctor of the Church, which that page says is something that happens to saints, but no doubt there is some complicated ecclesiastical distinction at play which means he is one but not the other.
Heavenly bureaucracy is pretty bizarre, there's a lot of paperwork to fill out.
I'm massively amused by not only heavenly bureuacracy but ecclesiastical bureacracy in general. I like the fact, fot example, that there is a strata in the ecclesiastical bureaucracy for flying bishops.
Hopefully Liverpool will get Iraola - as much as I love Alonso he is very much a slower possession coach whereas Iraola is more like Klopp with the press. Noticeably Salah has released a statement demanding Liverpool get back to “heavy metal football” once he has left and his post was liked by a load of current Liverpool players.
I like that the wikipedia page for Doctors of the Church refers to it as being 'promoted.
Poor old Irenaeus of Lyon died in 202 AD, and had to wait until 2022 to be promoted to Doctor of the Church. The Wigan Athletic of Doctors*.
*AI says they are the football club which took the longest to reach the top flight for the first time.
The equivalent would be longest for politicians to reach the front bench, which may well be Corbyn considering he had no interest in it, and people no longer wait a decade or more to get ministerial or shadow ministerial posts anymore.
On the Christianity stuff, I cycled out to St Blane's chapel on Bute last year and it was really something. Been to loads of similar to sites (Iona etc etc) but for some reason this one caught my imagination.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Presumably Two-Tier’s cops and prosecutors are going to to treat all threats of violence equally today, including those saying “shoot him in the neck like Charlie Kirk”, at Tommy Robinson.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
My old place’s proper name is “ St Mary's College, near Winchester/Collegium Sanctae Mariae prope Wintoniam“ as was obviously Catholic at the time it was started. Luckily it still has a lot of pre-reformation statuary etc because of influence of old boys at the time. Saved again by Nathaniel Fiennes during the civil war as he was also an old boy.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Calvinism is the most joyless religion ever created.
Has Burnham crashed the clown car AGAIN....remember his interviews prior to Labour conference and then having to run off early as he had made such a tit of himself.
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Calvinism is the most joyless religion ever created.
Surely Lutheranism makes Calvinism look like a jolly?
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Calvinism is the most joyless religion ever created.
Surely Lutheranism makes Calvinism look like a jolly?
And neither ban booze and bacon sarnies which in itself is bloody joyless.
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
And all the time nobody kept an eye on the Tories as they snuck up the outside to victory.
And then Kemi woke up from her dream.
Seriously though. This is the third by election defended by the most unpopular government in history. And the official opposition haven't made double figures in percentage yet. I wouldn't put money on the 8% needed to be the best performance of the three.
Yes, it's becoming 'normal' for them to have not even a shot, and the longer that goes on the more damaging it is. Already they get put under pressure to not stand and so split the right vote, but the instant they do that they are giving up on even claiming to be main opposition.
Aberdeen South may change that. It's clearly an SNP/Tory contest: the result in the sort-of equivalent seat at Holyrood was close - just 1,000 in it. Looking back, Stephen Flynn was certainly taking a chance- rather like Mayor Burnham is now.
Hard to think of this by election becoming any more defining now. - If Burnham can beat Reform on their prime turf, does everything comes back into play? - If Reform can defeat Labour’s most popular politician, can anyone now stop them? - If Restore Britain split the vote to Reform’s right are they a bigger problem than assumed for Farage’s Party?
And all the time nobody kept an eye on the Tories as they snuck up the outside to victory.
And then Kemi woke up from her dream.
Seriously though. This is the third by election defended by the most unpopular government in history. And the official opposition haven't made double figures in percentage yet. I wouldn't put money on the 8% needed to be the best performance of the three.
Yes, it's becoming 'normal' for them to have not even a shot, and the longer that goes on the more damaging it is. Already they get put under pressure to not stand and so split the right vote, but the instant they do that they are giving up on even claiming to be main opposition.
Aberdeen South may change that. It's clearly an SNP/Tory contest: the result in the sort-of equivalent seat at Holyrood was close - just 1,000 in it. Looking back, Stephen Flynn was certainly taking a chance- rather like Mayor Burnham is now.
Interesting - let's see if they can get a boost I guess.
Andy Burnham’s position on rejoining the EU now risks dominating his by-election fight
Only 7 months ago he explicitly told Labour conference “I want to rejoin the EU”
Tonight he tells ITV he wants to rejoin the EU in the future but that he doesn’t want to “advocate” it at this by-election
That risks appearing inauthentic
He seems to be trying to avoid the subject because the working class and Reform-leaning Makerfield constituency he’s running in voted heavily Leave in the Brexit referendum
Andy Burnham’s position on rejoining the EU now risks dominating his by-election fight
Only 7 months ago he explicitly told Labour conference “I want to rejoin the EU”
Tonight he tells ITV he wants to rejoin the EU in the future but that he doesn’t want to “advocate” it at this by-election
That risks appearing inauthentic
He seems to be trying to avoid the subject because the working class and Reform-leaning Makerfield constituency he’s running in voted heavily Leave in the Brexit referendum
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Calvinism is the most joyless religion ever created.
Surely Lutheranism makes Calvinism look like a jolly?
Lutheranism is pretty much like low church Anglicanism. My Brother in law is a Lutheran Pastor in Germany.
The joy of Calvinism is less obvious, but it is there. It is why Puritanism, and a number of other sects like Islam, attracted a lot of converts.
Andy Burnham’s position on rejoining the EU now risks dominating his by-election fight
Only 7 months ago he explicitly told Labour conference “I want to rejoin the EU”
Tonight he tells ITV he wants to rejoin the EU in the future but that he doesn’t want to “advocate” it at this by-election
That risks appearing inauthentic
He seems to be trying to avoid the subject because the working class and Reform-leaning Makerfield constituency he’s running in voted heavily Leave in the Brexit referendum
Yesterday I stood in the exact spot where, according to Bede, Paulinus converted the Northumbrian people to Christianity - in the summer of 627AD: thereby baptising England
Today in Parliament Square…
Not a fan of most people who organise marches. I can concede there will be rare occasions it's a good cause, but most of the time they are irritating to say the least.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
He's not a saint. So no. Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
As a Protestant country should we really have a patron Saint?
We aren't though. We're Church of England.
The Church of England seems to recognise existing saints at the point of split with Rome but has no mechanism to beatify any more.
OK. Why are many (most) C of E schools called St Summatorothers?
Yes, but those Saints predate the Reformation even if the school does not.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
Calvinism is the most joyless religion ever created.
Surely Lutheranism makes Calvinism look like a jolly?
At the heart of Calvinism is a belief in the total depravity of all human beings, combined with a belief that God has predestined a tiny number for salvation (regardless of their behaviour), and the vast majority to eternal damnation (regardless of their behaviour).
The religion manifests itself in all manner of petty regulations, like banning Christmas, prohibiting the growing of flowers, and singing anything other than metrical psalms.
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Those dreadful sound effects and too much time spent in that courtroom , I found most of it tedious .
So that's why you're hearing the media experts on this by election using it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ssi-9wS1so for those who haven't seen.
The Blackley is often Black - lee
When it should be Blake - lee
Abu-Bilal al-Minuki was described by US President Donald Trump as the "second in command of ISIS globally" and "the most active terrorist in the world". IS has radically shifted in recent years, with around 90% of its attacks now taking place in sub-Saharan Africa. Its Nigeria-based branch is by far the most active.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy72p2kpd03o
If Burnham wins to 'save' Labour the MPs won't want a contest.
I'm wondering if this is coming from folk who've heard of Macclesfield, a vague place north of Birmingham and think this is it.
You could see the writing on the wall then, and its got worse now people see the transport costs of getting to the stadiums
I'm just wondering if the orange faced one is going to paint the saltire on some tubby Americans and bedeck them in cheap kilts to pump up the crowd numbers for the Scotland games?
One of the largest explosions ever made, but it looked nothing like a nuclear explosion would have done.
But if we're talking Bede, should he be England's patron saint?
And most of them probably ignore the tedious, pointless spectacle of cars going round and round and concentrate on the serious businesses of networking and getting buzzed.
Makerfield is essentially Burnham's leadership campaign.
And the official opposition haven't made double figures in percentage yet.
I wouldn't put money on the 8% needed to be the best performance of the three.
From 'allies of Streeting/Starmer' accounts? No.
If anyone commented about Spurs in such a way he'd be bleating.
So no.
Saint Cuthbert on the other hand...
There was a line in Tenet (admittedly one which is not as well received), with someone saying something like 'Just try not to think about this complex and/or silly thing and move on', which is a fine sentiment for films in general, people can over criticise things, but I couldn't help but think Michael Bay would get a lot of shit if he used that same justification for his movies.
Labour shenanigans have hidden a cataclysmic result for the Tories. Any genuine opposition would be winning 500 seats at this time not losing them
They gained one Council despite losing seats.
She spins like a whirling drrvish, I'll give her that much
What really got me was all those amazing people who were never given the plaudits they deserved , and never allowed to speak a word about what they did , they were absolute heroes . Turing what an absolute legend .
There is a school in Manchester called St. Bede's. I'd always thought he was a saint. But it turns out not. I wonder therefore why the school is so named?
NEW: Andy Burnham confirms to ITV he wants to rejoin the EU in future
But he says he doesn’t want to advocate that at this by-election (presumably because it’s a very pro-Leave seat)
“In the long-term there is a case for that, but I'm not advocating that in this by-election”
https://x.com/alexwickham/status/2055699211098714561
Heavenly bureaucracy is pretty bizarre, there's a lot of paperwork to fill out.
He was canonised in 1899. So after the Reformation. So he is a Saint, but the C of E don't recognise it?
I didn't realise Saints had grandfather rights.
https://x.com/David_Ornstein/status/2055697914370961654?s=20
But that just replaces one question with another.
To quote Admiral Ackbar 'It's a trap'.
Poor old Irenaeus of Lyon died in 202 AD, and had to wait until 2022 to be promoted to Doctor of the Church. The Wigan Athletic of Doctors*.
*AI says they are the football club which took the longest to reach the top flight for the first time.
The equivalent would be longest for politicians to reach the front bench, which may well be Corbyn considering he had no interest in it, and people no longer wait a decade or more to get ministerial or shadow ministerial posts anymore.
Or several.
From my ancestral Free Presbyterian perspective it is all Idolatory. They were a harsh bunch, but on this subject correct.
https://x.com/archrose90/status/2055695787720405366
Does he truly believe that will fly?
Burnhams pro EU stance is well known but he could have handled it better .
Reform are going to have immense fun in this by-election.
No Burnham, and she becomes favourite.
@alexwickham
Andy Burnham’s position on rejoining the EU now risks dominating his by-election fight
Only 7 months ago he explicitly told Labour conference “I want to rejoin the EU”
Tonight he tells ITV he wants to rejoin the EU in the future but that he doesn’t want to “advocate” it at this by-election
That risks appearing inauthentic
He seems to be trying to avoid the subject because the working class and Reform-leaning Makerfield constituency he’s running in voted heavily Leave in the Brexit referendum
https://x.com/alexwickham/status/2055704894770696641
He should have been prepared for questions about his pro EU stance .
The joy of Calvinism is less obvious, but it is there. It is why Puritanism, and a number of other sects like Islam, attracted a lot of converts.
Be honest Andy and make your case
We have had enough prevarication in politics
The religion manifests itself in all manner of petty regulations, like banning Christmas, prohibiting the growing of flowers, and singing anything other than metrical psalms.