Fools Rusholme in? – politicalbetting.com

System · May 13

Fools Rusholme in? – politicalbetting.com

I know Manchester fairly well and my first reaction to the idea of Andy Burnham standing in a potential Rusholme by-election was that’s good idea from Burnham but there is a caveat.

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RobD · May 13

Zeroth

HYUFD · May 13

Burnham has to get the approval of the NEC to be a Labour parliamentary candidate in Rusholme. If not, then even if Labour held it he would not be an MP in time to join any Starmer v Streeting Labour leadership contest.

Burnham does poll better with Greens than Starmer or Streeting though so if he was allowed to fight the by election then he likely wins it

Benpointer · May 13

RobD said:
Zeroth

Just beaten by minus-oneth, shame.

IanB2 · May 13

If Galloway et al pile in, that makes Burnham’s path to victory easier, surely?

Sweeney74 · May 13

I hope he loses

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

Ratters · May 13

I reckon they should elect a Raynor-Miliband ticket.

Raynor as the more charismatic figure, as well as being the first female Labour PM.

Miliband I think is far more capable at policy and governing. He can be Chancellor and drive much of the policy agenda.

dixiedean · May 13

IanB2 said:
If Galloway et al pile in, that makes Burnham’s path to victory easier, surely?

Certainly. Greens ought to be the big threat.
Galloway would simply split that.

MarqueeMark · May 13

Burnham to join the Rusholme Ruffians?

oxfordsimon · May 13

Ratters said:
I reckon they should elect a Raynor-Miliband ticket.

Raynor as the more charismatic figure, as well as being the first female Labour PM.

Miliband I think is far more capable at policy and governing. He can be Chancellor and drive much of the policy agenda.

You can't be First Lord of the Treasury whilst you are under investigation by HMRC

Plus she lacks the gravitas necessary.

Deputy leader was her level and she screwed that up

BatteryCorrectHorse · May 13

Streeting and Ed M

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

IanB2 said:
If Galloway et al pile in, that makes Burnham’s path to victory easier, surely?

Galloway takes the Green vote en masse and cannibalises the Labour vote.

solarflare · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

Go on holiday, nothing will happen.

Benpointer · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

The UK, forever swapping PMs. If only we could emulate the stability of those Italians, eh.

dixiedean · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:

IanB2 said:
If Galloway et al pile in, that makes Burnham’s path to victory easier, surely?
Galloway takes the Green vote en masse and cannibalises the Labour vote.

He'd take part of the Green vote.
Can't see him taking the studenty bit.

Sean_F · May 13

Looking at those numbers, I think a Burnham victory would be far from certain.

ydoethur · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

You're using lots of energy as Labour tries to Burnham all up.

MarqueeMark · May 13

BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Streeting and Ed M

Ed gets Chancellor if he doesn't stand.

Nothing if he does. (Or maybe the top job. Do you feel lucky, punk?)

Dopermean · May 13

HYUFD said:
Burnham has to get the approval of the NEC to be a Labour parliamentary candidate in Rusholme. If not, then even if Labour held it he would not be an MP in time to join any Starmer v Streeting Labour leadership contest.

Burnham does poll better with Greens than Starmer or Streeting though so if he was allowed to fight the by election then he likely wins it

Are the NEC really going to greenlight a situation where Starmer holds off Streeting only for Burnham to become MP 2 months later and have a go?
It would be madness.
Perhaps McSweeney really was holding it altogether.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

At 100/1 on Miliband I can understand that

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

Rob Ford agrees with me.

Could be tricky. Muslim voters have swung very hard against Labour, this seat has v large Muslim community and Burnham would be replacing a Muslim MP

https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/2054645290531975556

Wulfrun_Phil · May 13

Nationally a NET 51% of 2024 Labour voters would regard Andy Burnham as acceptable to them as PM, but so too would a NET 29% of 2024 Green voters. (Opinium, fieldwork 6th May 2026) (i.e. Net acceptable v unacceptable)

Those two groups constitute 75% of the Rusholme voting electorate in 2024. I don't think Burnham should have too many worries over being elected there.

His main worry should be the extremely small chance that the NEC Officers group will play ball by both allowing him to stand and also delaying the leadership contest timetable by a couple of months in order for the by-election to take place.

Andy_JS · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

Didn't PB use to have more than one editor? (Other than OGH).

Foxy · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
Rob Ford agrees with me.

Could be tricky. Muslim voters have swung very hard against Labour, this seat has v large Muslim community and Burnham would be replacing a Muslim MP

https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/2054645290531975556

Whats Burnham said about Gaza? Or ILR?

BatteryCorrectHorse · May 13

I'm not convinced Andy has a seat.

ThomasNashe · May 13

I'd have thought the last thing Galloway would want to do is help Labour/ Burnham win the seat. I think he'd want to stand aside and advise his supporters to vote Green.

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

Blow the final whistles in Scotland now!

Foss · May 13

Sean_F said:
Looking at those numbers, I think a Burnham victory would be far from certain.

Electoral Calculus currently has a prediction of the Greens getting 49.9% at the next GE.

MarqueeMark · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
Rob Ford agrees with me.

Could be tricky. Muslim voters have swung very hard against Labour, this seat has v large Muslim community and Burnham would be replacing a Muslim MP

https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/2054645290531975556

Has Burnham got the Asian community leaders votes?

Is the Asian community impressed with what he has done for them as Manc Mayor?

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

So my contact in Withington says there's talk of Burnham standing there.

Sweeney74 · May 13

I gave up doomscrolling and instead made a wild mushroom risotto. I cook with wine, sometimes I even add it to the food.
The idea of black pudding and scallops will have to wait as I had to come home rather than schlep to Stockbridge for Waitrose.

The risotto is il Riposo. Time to have another glass.

Andy_JS · May 13

Ed is favourite to be "next permanent chancellor of the exchequer" with BE.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.253381184

rottenborough · May 13

There's been talk that Starmer could just make sure the writ isn't moved for a by-election in any kind of meaningful time.

But the Speaker can move the writ if there is recess.

Recess is due for half term I think?

Speaker might think the people of Rushholme or ANO Manchester seat deserve representation.

BatteryCorrectHorse · May 13

Starmer should just resign. He's done.

RobD · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.

Thanks, btw.

HYUFD · May 13

'Politics UK understands around 1,600 new members have joined Labour since last Thursday

The vast majority cited support for Keir Starmer as the reason'

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054620202155778065?s=20

HYUFD · May 13

'Keir Starmer invited all Ministers into his office tonight to tell them that for the sake of the country, "Wes can't win"

One Minister said: “There was something in his eyes I haven't seen before. And I liked it"

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054610378571587974?s=20

Sweeney74 · May 13

TheScreamingEagles said:
Blow the final whistles in Scotland now!

God please let this be the case
Having a non-old firm team win would be amazing, even if it is Hearts.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Keir Starmer invited all Ministers into his office tonight to tell them that for the sake of the country, "Wes can't win"

One Minister said: “There was something in his eyes I haven't seen before. And I liked it"

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054610378571587974?s=20

Fear

Sean_F · May 13

MarqueeMark said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
Rob Ford agrees with me.

Could be tricky. Muslim voters have swung very hard against Labour, this seat has v large Muslim community and Burnham would be replacing a Muslim MP

https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/2054645290531975556
Has Burnham got the Asian community leaders votes?

Is the Asian community impressed with what he has done for them as Manc Mayor?

I mentioned that X is a cesspit.

Plenty of people ranting that Burnham is a “Zionist.” Galloway could easily run a campaign along those lines.

ThomasNashe · May 13

What would Burnham's pitch be: I've been a great mayor for Manchester, which is why I'm abandoning the mayorality now in favour of furthering my own naked ambition?

The voters may well feel that Burnham simply wants to use them, and send him a big 'F*ck off' message.

AnneJGP · May 13

Sean_F said:
Looking at those numbers, I think a Burnham victory would be far from certain.

If he wins the by-election, what if he then doesn't win the leadership election?

Sweeney74 · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Keir Starmer invited all Ministers into his office tonight to tell them that for the sake of the country, "Wes can't win"

One Minister said: “There was something in his eyes I haven't seen before. And I liked it"

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054610378571587974?s=20

Reads like sub Jilly Cooper fan fic

oxfordsimon · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Politics UK understands around 1,600 new members have joined Labour since last Thursday

The vast majority cited support for Keir Starmer as the reason'

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054620202155778065?s=20

I find that rather hard to believe.

Nigelb · May 13

Benpointer said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
It's exciting writing all these threads, exhausting, but exciting.
The UK, forever swapping PMs. If only we could emulate the stability of those Italians, eh.

And the fiscal stability of Greece.

solarflare · May 13

Sweeney74 said:

HYUFD said:
'Keir Starmer invited all Ministers into his office tonight to tell them that for the sake of the country, "Wes can't win"

One Minister said: “There was something in his eyes I haven't seen before. And I liked it"

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054610378571587974?s=20
Reads like sub Jilly Cooper fan fic

Sounds like Starmer gets the hayfever too.

HYUFD · May 13

Would Britons vote to leave the Eurovision Song Contest?

Remain: 25% (-8 from 11 May 2023)
Leave: 24% (+12)
Would not vote: 40% (-5)

Reform voters most in favour of leaving

https://x.com/YouGov/status/2054592699638931735?s=20

HYUFD · May 13

2026 Generic Congressional Vote

🔵Democrats: 48.9%
🔴Republicans: 42.3%

Democrats’ 6.6-point generic ballot lead is their largest of this cycle in the RealClearPolitics Polling Average.

https://x.com/RCPolling/status/2054598142876655974?s=20

Wulfrun_Phil · May 13

Foxy said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
Rob Ford agrees with me.

Could be tricky. Muslim voters have swung very hard against Labour, this seat has v large Muslim community and Burnham would be replacing a Muslim MP

https://x.com/robfordmancs/status/2054645290531975556
Whats Burnham said about Gaza? Or ILR?

This is relevant:

How Andy Burnham stood up to Starmer over Israel and could now reshape UK foreign policy
If he became PM, the Greater Manchester mayor would likely reorient British policy on Israel

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-andy-burnham-stood-starmer-over-israel-and-could-now-reshape-uk-foreign-policy

HYUFD · May 13

'Pope infuriates Iranians and risks reigniting Trump row by awarding top Vatican honour to Tehran ambassador'

https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2054610524525011072?s=20

Andy_JS · May 13

I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.

solarflare · May 13

HYUFD said:
Would Britons vote to leave the Eurovision Song Contest?

Remain: 25% (-8 from 11 May 2023)
Leave: 24% (+12)
Would not vote: 40% (-5)

Reform voters most in favour of leaving

https://x.com/YouGov/status/2054592699638931735?s=20

As a candidate for the worst Brexit proxy, that's up there.

Dopermean · May 13

rottenborough said:
There's been talk that Starmer could just make sure the writ isn't moved for a by-election in any kind of meaningful time.

But the Speaker can move the writ if there is recess.

Recess is due for half term I think?

Speaker might think the people of Rushholme or ANO Manchester seat deserve representation.

Let's face it he'd love the adulation he'd get from the opposition for moving it as fast as possible, if it was football a team mate would put their foot through his knee in training.

Sweeney74 · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Pope infuriates Iranians and risks reigniting Trump row by awarding top Vatican honour to Tehran ambassador'

https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2054610524525011072?s=20

What’s Ollie done now!!

AnneJGP · May 13

ThomasNashe said:
What would Burnham's pitch be: I've been a great mayor for Manchester, which is why I'm abandoning the mayorality now in favour of furthering my own naked ambition?

The voters may well feel that Burnham simply wants to use them, and send him a big 'F*ck off' message.

They might like the idea of having the PM in their own constituency.

RobD · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Pope infuriates Iranians and risks reigniting Trump row by awarding top Vatican honour to Tehran ambassador'

https://x.com/DailyMail/status/2054610524525011072?s=20

Top trolling from the Vatican, offering a papal knighthood to an ambassador from a Muslim theocratic regime.

HYUFD · May 13

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.

No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either

IanB2 · May 13

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either

You really don’t understand the voters, do you?

rottenborough · May 13

Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦
@jurgen_nauditt

Russian refinery in Perm completely halts operations following Ukrainian drone attack — Reuters.

The facility in question is the Permnaftoorgsintez refinery, which belongs to Lukoil and is Russia's seventh-largest oil refinery.
In 2024, the company processed approximately 12.6 million tons of crude oil.

https://x.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/2054610894999707760

Dopermean · May 13

Andy_JS said:
Ed is favourite to be "next permanent chancellor of the exchequer" with BE.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.253381184

Is that because all the hopefuls are promising it to him if he doesn't run?
Can't see why he'd want it, either stay at Energy and see it through or be PM and appoint someone to see it through.

GarethoftheVale2 · May 13

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either

1 more Green MP doesn't make a difference, but stopping Burnham helps keep Labour down

MarqueeMark · May 13

HYUFD said:
2026 Generic Congressional Vote

🔵Democrats: 48.9%
🔴Republicans: 42.3%

Democrats’ 6.6-point generic ballot lead is their largest of this cycle in the RealClearPolitics Polling Average.

https://x.com/RCPolling/status/2054598142876655974?s=20

There is other polling significantly ahead of that.

solarflare · May 13

Andy_JS said:
Ed is favourite to be "next permanent chancellor of the exchequer" with BE.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.253381184

Are they not hiring temps for the role any more?

Pulpstar · May 13

My sample of 2 green/lab swing voters indicates Burnham would win
One actually is in the constituency

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either

You make these bold statements with no evidence

Tactical voting may well come into play, and no tory would vote Plaid but you did !!!!!

RochdalePioneers · May 13

As this turns to shit I can only say this; Starmer could have prevented all this

RochdalePioneers · May 13

As this turns to shit I can only say this; Starmer could have prevented all this

Foss · May 13

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You make these bold statements with no evidence

Tactical voting may well come into play, and no tory would vote Plaid but you did !!!!!

I’d expect some to do it just because Burnham loosing would be hilarious.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

RochdalePioneers said:
As this turns to shit I can only say this; Starmer could have prevented all this

Indeed - he should have resigned and laid out a timetable

CatMan · May 13

HYUFD said:
Would Britons vote to leave the Eurovision Song Contest?

Remain: 25% (-8 from 11 May 2023)
Leave: 24% (+12)
Would not vote: 40% (-5)

Reform voters most in favour of leaving

https://x.com/YouGov/status/2054592699638931735?s=20

Oh god, not again!

Sweeney74 · May 13

Foss said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You make these bold statements with no evidence

Tactical voting may well come into play, and no tory would vote Plaid but you did !!!!!
I’d expect some to do it just because Burnham loosing would be hilarious.

I expect some to vote tactically as Burnham is an entitled, arrogant arsehole.

Herner_Werzog · May 13

rottenborough said:
There's been talk that Starmer could just make sure the writ isn't moved for a by-election in any kind of meaningful time.

But the Speaker can move the writ if there is recess.

Recess is due for half term I think?

Speaker might think the people of Rushholme or ANO Manchester seat deserve representation.

The power of the Speaker to move a writ during recess is very limited see:

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06609/SN06609.pdf

It has only been used when MPs have been awarded peerages or have died. Can't see Starmer granting a Manchester MP a peerage, so for this route to work, Andy would need to be in league with the Grim Reaper.

Foxy · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Politics UK understands around 1,600 new members have joined Labour since last Thursday

The vast majority cited support for Keir Starmer as the reason'

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054620202155778065?s=20

To join in on a leadership election more like!

Foxy · May 13

Andy_JS said:
Ed is favourite to be "next permanent chancellor of the exchequer" with BE.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.253381184

It is quite damning of Reeves that her name is never mentioned as next PM. Usually CoE is pole position.

Andy_JS · May 13

RochdalePioneers said:
As this turns to shit I can only say this; Starmer could have prevented all this

How could he have?

HYUFD · May 13

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You make these bold statements with no evidence

Tactical voting may well come into play, and no tory would vote Plaid but you did !!!!!

Only as I always use my vote, I had voted for all 4 Tory candidates but had 6 votes and Labour and the LDs did not stand, had they stood I would have voted for them for my last 2 votes over Plaid

HYUFD · May 13

GarethoftheVale2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
1 more Green MP doesn't make a difference, but stopping Burnham helps keep Labour down

I would certainly vote for Burnham and Labour over the Greens

HYUFD · May 13

IanB2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You really don’t understand the voters, do you?

I know Tory and Reform voters despise the Polanski Greens far more than they hate Burnham

Sunil_Prasannan · May 13

HYUFD said:
'Politics UK understands around 1,600 new members have joined Labour since last Thursday

The vast majority cited support for Keir Starmer as the reason'

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2054620202155778065?s=20

I fear that's a typo for

"Politics UK understands around 1,500 Labour councillors lost their jobs last Thursday.

The vast majority cited lack of support for Keir Starmer as the reason."

rottenborough · May 13

Herner_Werzog said:

rottenborough said:
There's been talk that Starmer could just make sure the writ isn't moved for a by-election in any kind of meaningful time.

But the Speaker can move the writ if there is recess.

Recess is due for half term I think?

Speaker might think the people of Rushholme or ANO Manchester seat deserve representation.
The power of the Speaker to move a writ during recess is very limited see:

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06609/SN06609.pdf

It has only been used when MPs have been awarded peerages or have died. Can't see Starmer granting a Manchester MP a peerage, so for this route to work, Andy would need to be in league with the Grim Reaper.

Thanks.

Seems Andy B will have to become bankrupt asap.

Shame New Labour never built the super casinos.

Peter_the_Punter · May 13

MarqueeMark said:

HYUFD said:
2026 Generic Congressional Vote

🔵Democrats: 48.9%
🔴Republicans: 42.3%

Democrats’ 6.6-point generic ballot lead is their largest of this cycle in the RealClearPolitics Polling Average.

https://x.com/RCPolling/status/2054598142876655974?s=20
There is other polling significantly ahead of that.

It's hard to judge what is really going on from US polls as they have no equivalent of the BPC and just about anybody can set up shop. I do get the impression though that DJT is under water and dragging the GOP down with him.

Sweeney74 · May 13

HYUFD said:

IanB2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You really don’t understand the voters, do you?
I know Tory and Reform voters despise the Polanski Greens far more than they hate Burnham

I don’t

rottenborough · May 13

Ben Walker
@BNHWalker
·
37m
Rusholme and Withington, real battles that could go either way. Perhaps the greatest throw of the dice in modern British political history. But does the Labour movement have the balls for it?

https://x.com/BNHWalker/status/2054646666532131238

squareroot2 · May 13

HYUFD said:
Would Britons vote to leave the Eurovision Song Contest?

Remain: 25% (-8 from 11 May 2023)
Leave: 24% (+12)
Would not vote: 40% (-5)

Reform voters most in favour of leaving

https://x.com/YouGov/status/2054592699638931735?s=20

The wasn't a column for Dont give a fuck..

Pulpstar · May 13

ThomasNashe said:
I'd have thought the last thing Galloway would want to do is help Labour/ Burnham win the seat. I think he'd want to stand aside and advise his supporters to vote Green.

Nah the hard left is a very factionalist place.

Pulpstar · May 13

ThomasNashe said:
I'd have thought the last thing Galloway would want to do is help Labour/ Burnham win the seat. I think he'd want to stand aside and advise his supporters to vote Green.

Nah the hard left is a very factionalist place.

Nigelb · May 13

Vance is clearly planning to have Trump impeached.

Under President Trump, we are unleashing the most aggressive federal anti-fraud efforts in American history. We won't rest until we root out every bit of fraud infecting our government and screwing over taxpayers.
https://x.com/JDVance/status/2054348259208876329

Unless he's a lying sack of shit, of course.

MarqueeMark · May 13

Foxy said:

Andy_JS said:
Ed is favourite to be "next permanent chancellor of the exchequer" with BE.

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.253381184
It is quite damning of Reeves that her name is never mentioned as next PM. Usually CoE is pole position.

Damning. But not remotely surprising.

Her Cabinet term ends the day Starmer's does.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

Andy_JS said:

RochdalePioneers said:
As this turns to shit I can only say this; Starmer could have prevented all this
How could he have?

Accepted the verdict of last Thursday and laid out a timetable for his resignation

Sunil_Prasannan · May 13

HYUFD said:
Would Britons vote to leave the Eurovision Song Contest?

Remain: 25% (-8 from 11 May 2023)
Leave: 24% (+12)
Would not vote: 40% (-5)

Reform voters most in favour of leaving

https://x.com/YouGov/status/2054592699638931735?s=20

Fun fact:

In last night's Eurovision semi-final, Boy George of Culture Club fame represented San Marino.

Unfortunately, he failed to qualify for Saturday's grand final!

The second semi-final is tomorrow night.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

HYUFD said:

IanB2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You really don’t understand the voters, do you?
I know Tory and Reform voters despise the Polanski Greens far more than they hate Burnham

A few in your circle maybe but that is anecdotal

Foxy · May 13

HYUFD said:

GarethoftheVale2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
1 more Green MP doesn't make a difference, but stopping Burnham helps keep Labour down
I would certainly vote for Burnham and Labour over the Greens

You don't live in Rusholme though.

Big_G_NorthWales · May 13

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You make these bold statements with no evidence

Tactical voting may well come into play, and no tory would vote Plaid but you did !!!!!
Only as I always use my vote, I had voted for all 4 Tory candidates but had 6 votes and Labour and the LDs did not stand, had they stood I would have voted for them for my last 2 votes over Plaid

You still voted Plaid

FrankBooth · May 13

I would have thought a more middle class public sector worker heavy seat would be better for Burnham. Surely they can see the most advantageous places from the local election results. Are there really that many willing to stand down in his place?

rottenborough · May 13

Andrew Lilico
@andrew_lilico

@KemiBadenoch is fab in the Commons. Best Party leader in the Commons since Hague.

https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/2054614123384590767

DecrepiterJohnL · May 13

Ratters said:
I reckon they should elect a Raynor-Miliband ticket.

Raynor as the more charismatic figure, as well as being the first female Labour PM.

Miliband I think is far more capable at policy and governing. He can be Chancellor and drive much of the policy agenda.

The Ange/Ed dream ticket as proposed weeks ago by Ed Miliband himself.

It is interesting that neither Raynor nor Miliband seem over-eager to become Prime Minister, and I think we saw something similar on the Conservative side too a couple of years ago. Such is the pressure from intrusive press and offensive social media comment, allied perhaps to a sense of impotence in a world lurching from crisis to crisis sown by the superpowers, that the bloom has come off the rose.

rottenborough · May 13

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IanB2 said:

HYUFD said:

Andy_JS said:
I can see some Reform and Tory supporters in Rusholme voting for the Greens since neither of those parties stands a chance of winning.
No Tory is ever going to vote for the Marxist Polanski and his party and no Reform vote will vote for uber woke Polanski's party either
You really don’t understand the voters, do you?
I know Tory and Reform voters despise the Polanski Greens far more than they hate Burnham
A few in your circle maybe but that is anecdotal

As Ben Walker says - it's gonna be a real roll of the dice for Burnham.

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

Our recent polling of Muslims in areas with a high concentration of British Muslims - which included Manchester Rusholme - showed almost half would vote tactically for a Green candidate to keep out Labour.

https://x.com/IGMansfield/status/2054658375279857870

TheScreamingEagles · May 13

rottenborough said:
Andrew Lilico
@andrew_lilico

@KemiBadenoch is fab in the Commons. Best Party leader in the Commons since Hague.

https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/2054614123384590767

Err has he forgotten Dave.

vino · May 13

ThomasNashe said:
I'd have thought the last thing Galloway would want to do is help Labour/ Burnham win the seat. I think he'd want to stand aside and advise his supporters to vote Green.

Would Galloway run?
He didn't in Gorton & Denton and instantly Greens became the favourites.
Reform & the Tories stand no chance in Rusholme so if I was a Reform voter there I would vote Green - all depends on the Workers Party of Britain

Fools Rusholme in? – politicalbetting.com

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