The praetorian guard around the prime minister, who have been urging him not to quit, are the Chancellor Rachel Reeves, the attorney general Richard Hermer, the Housing Secretary Steve Reed and - no longer on the payroll - Morgan McSweeney. Or so a minister tells me. I asked Downing St for a comment. None forthcoming
Reeves knows she is toast soon after Starmer is removed, unless her friend Streeting gets the job.
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
He has been given a lot of money by billionaires to help him along the way. A Farage premiership would be the biggest disaster to befall this country in decades. He is divisive, his policies alternatively contradictory, ill-informed, malign or non-existent. He is close to Putin and Trump. He can't handle criticism or scrutiny. He falls out with everyone he works with. I'd be looking to leave the country if he got into power.
Democracy eh. What can you do?
Support parties who don't campaign on putting people in camps?
What’s wrong with camps?
??
That's like asking what's wrong with space stations and posting a picture of the death star.
Many people would have no issue with well constructed holding camps for asylum claimants. Heating, water, food, all the basics. And safe. No longer in fear of persecution. Add in swiftly resolving claims one way or another and removing those who fail and most people would be satisfied.
I provided a simple answer to "what's wrong with camps". If Auschwitz doesn't encapsulate what's wrong with camps nothing does.
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
If there's a serious chance of Ed being Prime Minister, I'll cancel my summer trip back to the UK.
We've just cancelled an autumn trip to the US because... we just don't think we'll enjoyed knowing Trump is in the White House.
Why are you wasting everybodys time Streeting is the Mandelson McSweeney candidate
Streeting ain't getting a coronation
He has close to zero chance in a contest
Liz Kendall got 4% last time she stood WS might get 20% if he is lucky
The only hurdle to a more centrist Candidate getting on the ballot is getting 81 MPs to agree who beats Streeting
Starmer can fix it if he remains Labour leader but tells Charles to appoint Streeting as PM. There'd be nothing the left could do about it without bringing down the government by voting with the Tories.
Why are you wasting everybodys time Streeting is the Mandelson McSweeney candidate
Streeting ain't getting a coronation
He has close to zero chance in a contest
Liz Kendall got 4% last time she stood WS might get 20% if he is lucky
The only hurdle to a more centrist Candidate getting on the ballot is getting 81 MPs to agree who beats Streeting
Starmer can fix it if he remains Labour leader but tells Charles to appoint Streeting as PM. There'd be nothing the left could do about it without bringing down the government by voting with the Tories.
I think the rules say Streeting as PM could face a challenge within days if 81 MPs wish. They certainly would wish
Plus Starmer has stood up to Streeting and certainly aint going to assist in a coronation for Mandelsons mate
The challenge would have to be against Starmer rather than Streeting as Starmer would still be the Labour leader. To bring down Streeting, they'd have to VONC him in the House of Commons.
King wouldn’t appoint streeting PM without clear evidence he commanded a majority
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
If there's a serious chance of Ed being Prime Minister, I'll cancel my summer trip back to the UK.
We've just cancelled an autumn trip to the US because... we just don't think we'll enjoyed knowing Trump is in the White House.
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
He has been given a lot of money by billionaires to help him along the way. A Farage premiership would be the biggest disaster to befall this country in decades. He is divisive, his policies alternatively contradictory, ill-informed, malign or non-existent. He is close to Putin and Trump. He can't handle criticism or scrutiny. He falls out with everyone he works with. I'd be looking to leave the country if he got into power.
Democracy eh. What can you do?
Support parties who don't campaign on putting people in camps?
What’s wrong with camps?
??
That's like asking what's wrong with space stations and posting a picture of the death star.
Many people would have no issue with well constructed holding camps for asylum claimants. Heating, water, food, all the basics. And safe. No longer in fear of persecution. Add in swiftly resolving claims one way or another and removing those who fail and most people would be satisfied.
I provided a simple answer to "what's wrong with camps". If Auschwitz doesn't encapsulate what's wrong with camps nothing does.
Showing the most extreme things in a set of things doesn't prove all those things are bad.
The praetorian guard around the prime minister, who have been urging him not to quit, are the Chancellor Rachel Reeves, the attorney general Richard Hermer, the Housing Secretary Steve Reed and - no longer on the payroll - Morgan McSweeney. Or so a minister tells me. I asked Downing St for a comment. None forthcoming
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
Well, yes, I get your point. He has, in effect, been very consequential and remains highly effective as a campaigner. He's a definite one-off, and a real political talent.
BUT
As you also say, Skyr is beyond bad. And, indeed, his unfavourability figure according to the latest YouGov is 69%. I'll repeat that: SIXTY-NINE %.
But, and this is the kicker, Nige's is 65%. SIXTY-FIVE%. And that's at the height of his popularity as an opposition leader.
Just imagine with those ratings to start with how a Reform Govt would go: Cutting benefits to its WWC supporters, dealing with all the bad stuff that Govts have to deal with, navigating the scandals that would crop up (inevitable given the roasters who would be elected), etc, etc. We'd all be looking back on Starmer's time with nostalgia.
Sorry, a Farage government would be an unsustainable disaster. I think people know this. It won't happen. (Fingers crossed)
You just don’t know this. Farage has never been in government. No one can know this. Your statement is, therefore, intrinsically absurd
Ah, now we can see why you have voted for Boris, Truss and Starmer. It is actually possible to predict they will be a disaster without having to endure it (and make the rest of us endure it too).
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
He has been given a lot of money by billionaires to help him along the way. A Farage premiership would be the biggest disaster to befall this country in decades. He is divisive, his policies alternatively contradictory, ill-informed, malign or non-existent. He is close to Putin and Trump. He can't handle criticism or scrutiny. He falls out with everyone he works with. I'd be looking to leave the country if he got into power.
You might have noticed that several hundred thousand people have left Britain in recent years, many of them very wealthy and major tax payers. I guess we’d just have to cope if you went - and welcome back lots of rich people under a lower tax Reform regime
See what’s happening in Italy under Meloni
This is Italian GDP growth:
Yes but you are deliberately ignoring the fact Meloni is surprisingly hot. Which is typical of the slippery way you argue. You only get away with it because your Dad is OGH
Once you factor in her hotness and the recent semi nude fake photos then the economic picture entirely changes, as you well know
I guess she's hot compared to your average politician.
But that's a little bit like saying someone's bright compared to a member of the Labour cabinet.
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
If there's a serious chance of Ed being Prime Minister, I'll cancel my summer trip back to the UK.
We've just cancelled an autumn trip to the US because... we just don't think we'll enjoyed knowing Trump is in the White House.
Same. Road trip on ice until he's gone.
Put chains on your tyres, otherwise your car will slip on the ice.
@YorkshireLive: Bizarre moment Reform Councillor Kieran Lay, Thorne and Moorends Ward, asks Full Council for measures to monitor UFO activity as part of reopening Doncaster Sheffield Airport
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
If there's a serious chance of Ed being Prime Minister, I'll cancel my summer trip back to the UK.
We've just cancelled an autumn trip to the US because... we just don't think we'll enjoyed knowing Trump is in the White House.
I don't really understand that. Does it apply for every country you visit? You worry about the Portuguese PM when on the Lines of Torres Vedrsd? Or cruising round Milford sound you can't sleep because of the crisis in the round house on Wellington? Id understand it more if you ere worried about your social media posting getting you arrested or thrown out. Otherwise it's letting idiots like Trump win.
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
If Farage is the answer then what the fuck is the question? Has he got any answers to this country’s problems? His blackshirts are even more clueless.
Farages answer to everything is deport a load of people which will miraculously help save loads of money . That’s it .
In other news racist attacks on NHS staff have risen . Farage and Reform are a cancer on this country .
And Labours answer is that all those poor souls washing up on our shores are somehow critical to ensuring a healthy economy. All those doctors and care workers, engineers and nurses taking the perilous journey across the Channel to benefit our country. Don’t dare disagree - otherwise. You know. Racist innit.
I’m not talking about the migrant boats . Reform want to deport people who are legally here .
No. No they don’t.
Well, I hope they do.
There are plenty of people who are legally in the UK and commit crimes.
I would sincerely hope that Reform* wishes to deport them.
* I would hope other political parties think similarly.
Saying you’ll deport foreign crimals is one thing.
Passing legislation that says foreign criminals should be deported is another.
Actually getting people to go from the prison to the airport, without several years of taxpayer-funded legal challenges, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds for each case, is very much in a different realm altogether.
Where I live, if the judge says you’re deported then you’re heading from either the courtroom or the prison straight to the airport. If you want to appeal to be allowed back in, then that’s from overseas and at your own expense.
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
If there's a serious chance of Ed being Prime Minister, I'll cancel my summer trip back to the UK.
We've just cancelled an autumn trip to the US because... we just don't think we'll enjoyed knowing Trump is in the White House.
Same. Road trip on ice until he's gone.
We were in a hotel in Stratford on Avon this weekend* and a party of middle aged US women on an organise UK tour were in at breakfast. I so wanted to ask them 'wtf is going on with your country?' Sadly Mrs P. wouldn't let me spoil our wedding anniversary weekend in that way.
(*Arturo Ui at the Swan is, btw, the best thing we have seen for a very long time. Sold out but I suspect it will transfer to London, so catch it if you can.)
Ed Miliband has told Cabinet ministers that he is prepared to run for the Labour leadership if Wes Streeting triggers an imminent contest, The Times has been told
Good news for Streeting, if Ed Miliband ends up the candidate of the left and takes nominations from Rayner as Streeting is more likely to beat Miliband with members than he is Rayner
Why are you wasting everybodys time Streeting is the Mandelson McSweeney candidate
Streeting ain't getting a coronation
He has close to zero chance in a contest
Liz Kendall got 4% last time she stood WS might get 20% if he is lucky
The only hurdle to a more centrist Candidate getting on the ballot is getting 81 MPs to agree who beats Streeting
Starmer can fix it if he remains Labour leader but tells Charles to appoint Streeting as PM. There'd be nothing the left could do about it without bringing down the government by voting with the Tories.
Why are you wasting everybodys time Streeting is the Mandelson McSweeney candidate
Streeting ain't getting a coronation
He has close to zero chance in a contest
Liz Kendall got 4% last time she stood WS might get 20% if he is lucky
The only hurdle to a more centrist Candidate getting on the ballot is getting 81 MPs to agree who beats Streeting
Starmer can fix it if he remains Labour leader but tells Charles to appoint Streeting as PM. There'd be nothing the left could do about it without bringing down the government by voting with the Tories.
I think the rules say Streeting as PM could face a challenge within days if 81 MPs wish. They certainly would wish
Plus Starmer has stood up to Streeting and certainly aint going to assist in a coronation for Mandelsons mate
The challenge would have to be against Starmer rather than Streeting as Starmer would still be the Labour leader. To bring down Streeting, they'd have to VONC him in the House of Commons.
King wouldn’t appoint streeting PM without clear evidence he commanded a majority
Starmer saying he commands a majority would be sufficient.
I mean, who can objectively argue that PM Farage would be WORSE than this? How? Why? He’s a proven organiser and he has a brain and he gets things done
These people in power are cretins and they can’t do anything
Expect Reform back in the 30s and Labour sub-15
Farage famously falls out with allies, and usually they flounce off to form their own new parties. How he would handle managing 200-300 MPs, who would be grateful to him but only up to a point as they would be accountable to their electorates, is a major question. Boris couldn't do it, Keir cannot do it.
Farage is pretty fucking good at building new political parties from the ground up and then winning national elections. He’s now done it TWICE
Which shows more drive, ambition, brains and organisational ability than the entire Labour government put together. With the Tories
If Farage is the answer then what the fuck is the question? Has he got any answers to this country’s problems? His blackshirts are even more clueless.
Farages answer to everything is deport a load of people which will miraculously help save loads of money . That’s it .
In other news racist attacks on NHS staff have risen . Farage and Reform are a cancer on this country .
And Labours answer is that all those poor souls washing up on our shores are somehow critical to ensuring a healthy economy. All those doctors and care workers, engineers and nurses taking the perilous journey across the Channel to benefit our country. Don’t dare disagree - otherwise. You know. Racist innit.
I’m not talking about the migrant boats . Reform want to deport people who are legally here .
No. No they don’t.
Well, I hope they do.
There are plenty of people who are legally in the UK and commit crimes.
I would sincerely hope that Reform* wishes to deport them.
* I would hope other political parties think similarly.
Saying you’ll deport foreign crimals is one thing.
Passing legislation that says foreign criminals should be deported is another.
Actually getting people to go from the prison to the airport, without several years of taxpayer-funded legal challenges, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds for each case, is very much in a different realm altogether.
Where I live, if the judge says you’re deported then you’re heading from either the courtroom or the prison straight to the airport. If you want to appeal to be allowed back in, then that’s from overseas and at your own expense.
Of course for all their faults this is the kind of thing Starmers govt has been much better at than previous administrations.
They get no credit for it as:
- They are terrible communicators - Its not a priority for many of their own supporters - The media are hostile and it doesn't play into established media narratives - Opponents are a mix of unaware, unbelieving and thinking it doesn't go far enough.
Wil be interesting to see if this catches on in the UK by the next election. These ads are now really cheap to make and can easily go viral on social channels.
It seems you can still get an indeterminant sentence in the UK "The parole board would also have to be satisfied that the defendants were reformed and had rescinded their beliefs."
The court conceals from the jury that they will be sentenced as terrorists - possible life in prison. Secures conviction under false pretences because they know no jury would convict under such a stupid definition. The crime was committed before PA were proscribed, but they are to be sentenced as if they had been already.
Only freed when… they don’t think Palestine should be free? Mental.
Difficult to describe how disgraceful this is. If I were one of those jurors I’d be protesting outside the court now.
This is the sledgehammer one?
These people are horrible - especially the sledgehammer dude - but I simply don’t understand how they can be convicted of terror charges if
1. PA wasn’t a terrorist group at the time and
2. The jury wasn’t told of the terror charges???
This is so dodgy I suspect the reporting is faulty
They were convicted of criminal damage. Reportedly, the court (ie judges) will decide ("subject to criminal burden of proof"), whether they should be sentenced on the basis of a terrorism tariff.
Which doesn't sound much better than your formulation, but is at least a process of sorts.
This feels a bit chicken and egg to me - Palestine Action became a proscribed organisation BECAUSE of what these 'activists' did. So while it might not have been actions as a Terrorist Organisation at the time, what they did has been classed as terrorism.
Rightly, in my view.
Quite simply taking a sledgehammer and attacking someone with it with no regard for the impact on their life because of your political views fits very well the definition of terrorism.
I've never swung a sledgehammer at someone because I didn't like what another country did, and I've never been sent to prison as a terrorist.
Simples.
Personally, I loathe laws which criminalise doing [x] because of [y].
If you attack someone with a sledgehammer, you attacked someone with a sledgehammer.
If you knife someone because they're gay, then you knifed somebody.
Why does the motive for the attack have any bearing on the crime? Not only that, but it also allows the Andrew Tate's of this world to claim that straight men are being ganged up on, and it allows murdering scum to claim that they are somehow political prisoners rather than simple murdering scum.
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
For Burnham to become Labour Party leader the following needs to happen in this sequence:
1. He needs a parliamentary seat to become vacant 2. He needs the approval of the NEC to put himself forward as a candidate 3. Assuming he gets NEC approval, he needs to win the local party selection to be the by-election candidate 4. He needs to win the subsequent by-election 5. There needs to be a vacancy for the leadership or he needs to secure sufficient nominations to force a leadership ballot. 6. He then needs to win the subsequent leadership election
1. seems possible and 2. seems more possible than in January, but is still not a given. If the first and second hurdles are passed, then 3 seems likely.
It is steps 4 and 5 where Burnham faces the biggest challenges.
Much has been said here about the challenges of winning a by-election in even an ostensibly safe Labour seat. But even assuming he does win a by-election, the timing of his return to the Commons in relation to any leadership contest is absolutely critical.
To get on the leadership ballot paper he needs to be back in Parliament when the PLP nominations open. The very earliest a by-election can take place is 21 working days after issuing the writ. But the window for nominations is typically short and opens within a week of the vacancy arising. If Starmer goes in the next week or two, Burnham can't realistically get back to Westminster in time to get nominated.
Unless Starmer gives himself a long resignation period, as many past PMs have done.
He could say his replacement will be elected at Party Conference. That would give time for a by-election.
And once he has resigned, he has no reason to block Burnham anymore.
There is no provision in the Labour Party rule book for the Labour leader to be elected by a vote at Conference. There needs to be the nomination process, some kind of hustings, balloting of members. Hustings and balloting can take place over the summer recess with a result announced in late September at Conference. But it doesn't change the fact that to be nominated in the first place, Burnham needs to be an MP. Parliament is in recess 16 July to 1 September 2026 so he needs to have been sworn in as an MP, and nominated before 16 July. Can't see it.
As for Starmer having no reason to block Burnham after he resigns, that assumes a generosity of spirit he hasn't often shown. More importantly, many of Burnham's putative rivals still have an incentive to block Burnham.
I would direct your attention to the Labour Party Rule Book, Clause VII 1A(II) which states very specifically that the leader and deputy leader are elected or re-elected at the party conference.
Just to relate all this to the real world - I've just overheard a conversation between two youngsters in the lift at work (remember, public sector job, Greater Manchester): Youth A: You know Andy Burnham? Youth B: Who's that?
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
Burnham fans need to stop asking for Starmer to resign. If he does it’s curtains for Burnham as there will be no time and a leadership challenge could end up delivering Miliband which would be a gift to the opposition.
He had his chance and just helped to deliver a Tory majority in 2015.
For Burnham to become Labour Party leader the following needs to happen in this sequence:
1. He needs a parliamentary seat to become vacant 2. He needs the approval of the NEC to put himself forward as a candidate 3. Assuming he gets NEC approval, he needs to win the local party selection to be the by-election candidate 4. He needs to win the subsequent by-election 5. There needs to be a vacancy for the leadership or he needs to secure sufficient nominations to force a leadership ballot. 6. He then needs to win the subsequent leadership election
1. seems possible and 2. seems more possible than in January, but is still not a given. If the first and second hurdles are passed, then 3 seems likely.
It is steps 4 and 5 where Burnham faces the biggest challenges.
Much has been said here about the challenges of winning a by-election in even an ostensibly safe Labour seat. But even assuming he does win a by-election, the timing of his return to the Commons in relation to any leadership contest is absolutely critical.
To get on the leadership ballot paper he needs to be back in Parliament when the PLP nominations open. The very earliest a by-election can take place is 21 working days after issuing the writ. But the window for nominations is typically short and opens within a week of the vacancy arising. If Starmer goes in the next week or two, Burnham can't realistically get back to Westminster in time to get nominated.
Unless Starmer gives himself a long resignation period, as many past PMs have done.
He could say his replacement will be elected at Party Conference. That would give time for a by-election.
And once he has resigned, he has no reason to block Burnham anymore.
There is no provision in the Labour Party rule book for the Labour leader to be elected by a vote at Conference. There needs to be the nomination process, some kind of hustings, balloting of members. Hustings and balloting can take place over the summer recess with a result announced in late September at Conference. But it doesn't change the fact that to be nominated in the first place, Burnham needs to be an MP. Parliament is in recess 16 July to 1 September 2026 so he needs to have been sworn in as an MP, and nominated before 16 July. Can't see it.
As for Starmer having no reason to block Burnham after he resigns, that assumes a generosity of spirit he hasn't often shown. More importantly, many of Burnham's putative rivals still have an incentive to block Burnham.
I would direct your attention to the Labour Party Rule Book, Clause VII 1A(II) which states very specifically that the leader and deputy leader are elected or re-elected at the party conference.
Clause VII 1A(II) states:
The Leader and Deputy Leader of the Party shall be elected or re-elected from among Commons members of the PLP in accordance with procedural rule Chapter 4, Clause II below, at a Party conference convened in accordance with Clause VI above. In respect to the election of the Leader and Deputy Leader, the standing orders of the PLP shall always automatically be brought into line with these rules.
They are deemed elected at the Conference or special conference, but the conference itself doesn't vote on the leader. Chapter 4 Clause II sets out the procedure i.e. nominations by PLP, CLPs, affiliates followed by a ballot.
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But that's a little bit like saying someone's bright compared to a member of the Labour cabinet.
EDIT: Damn, beaten to the joke by @noneoftheabove
Id understand it more if you ere worried about your social media posting getting you arrested or thrown out.
Otherwise it's letting idiots like Trump win.
Passing legislation that says foreign criminals should be deported is another.
Actually getting people to go from the prison to the airport, without several years of taxpayer-funded legal challenges, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds for each case, is very much in a different realm altogether.
Where I live, if the judge says you’re deported then you’re heading from either the courtroom or the prison straight to the airport. If you want to appeal to be allowed back in, then that’s from overseas and at your own expense.
(*Arturo Ui at the Swan is, btw, the best thing we have seen for a very long time. Sold out but I suspect it will transfer to London, so catch it if you can.)
NEW THREAD
They get no credit for it as:
- They are terrible communicators
- Its not a priority for many of their own supporters
- The media are hostile and it doesn't play into established media narratives
- Opponents are a mix of unaware, unbelieving and thinking it doesn't go far enough.
https://x.com/charliebcurran/status/2054269053217460734
Wil be interesting to see if this catches on in the UK by the next election. These ads are now really cheap to make and can easily go viral on social channels.
I would direct your attention to the Labour Party Rule Book, Clause VII 1A(II) which states very specifically that the leader and deputy leader are elected or re-elected at the party conference.
Youth A: You know Andy Burnham?
Youth B: Who's that?
The Leader and Deputy Leader of the Party
shall be elected or re-elected from among
Commons members of the PLP in
accordance with procedural rule Chapter
4, Clause II below, at a Party conference
convened in accordance with Clause VI
above. In respect to the election of the
Leader and Deputy Leader, the standing
orders of the PLP shall always
automatically be brought into line with
these rules.
They are deemed elected at the Conference or special conference, but the conference itself doesn't vote on the leader. Chapter 4 Clause II sets out the procedure i.e. nominations by PLP, CLPs, affiliates followed by a ballot.