Streeting fighting man? – politicalbetting.com
Streeting fighting man? – politicalbetting.com
Starmer’s strategy is to try and split the rebels. Challenge Streeting to move, then say to Burnham supporters “force me out if you like, but then you don’t get your man”.
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If not, there is not an election. He is standing by the rules as you might expect. But is his cabinet willing to keep the show on the road? Some tough calls to be made.
Surely Streeting must be able to scrape 80 backers...
predisposition in Westminster to presume coups *always* succeed eg Thatcher & May & Johnson, but:
1995: John Major saw off right wing rebels
2009: Gordon Brown survived multiple cabinet minister resignations
2016: Jeremy Corbyn saw off 64 resignations and 80% of PLP begging him to quit (172:40)
Depends if anyone quits after cabinet finishes
He needs 81 MPs, and he probably needs nobody else to get 81 MPs. Otherwise, I suspect that the membership would rather have someone else.
This might be Streeting's best chance, but that doesn't make it a good chance.
What was it LBJ said about being able to count?
This is the letter referred to, attempting to thwart the Rwanda scheme:
https://spcommreports.ohchr.org/TMResultsBase/DownLoadPublicCommunicationFile?gId=28951
https://x.com/StateDept/status/2053907257600188555
While the United Kingdom faced unprecedented illegal boat crossings, UN agencies condemned plans for deportations.
UN officials lobbied aviation regulators to prevent the deportation of migrants – an appalling violation of the UK’s national sovereignty.
"KEIR PRESSURE"
You're welcome!
Nonetheless Starmer out!
A satirical replaying of the Trump ME farce in minature
Streeting is the most punnable candidate.
FWIW, I do quite like this one.
Guardian political journo who was constantly indulging Flint etc went on to ignominy as Boris' press secretary..
@cookie said.
I saw a sign in a fast food shop on Wallgate (Wigan) last year: "We take card payments!" I was intrigued by the thought that this wasn't a given.
But I'm glad to hear your report. I got the impression that Wigan was better than it used to be but I never really knew how it used to be.
There was briefly a regular hourly fast service from Wigan to Manchester. It took 20 minutes or so. I'd argue that this was, and could be again (and especially if it were made half hourly) a massive benefit to the town. Not least because (in contrast to Rochdale), Wigan's train stations are gratifyingly central for the town.
Me:
Yes. One issue is the inaccessibility of Central Wigan itself. The town itself is doing quite well. But the collection of small ex-pit towns/villages to the south aren't. (Makerfield constituency where I'm from). Ashton, Bryn. Hindley, Abram and the like. Wigan is the big City to them, requiring preparation and a girding of loins to venture into (only when absolutely necessary).
Yep. Card payments accepted. Furore over self service tills in Tesco, (some of which don't take cash!).
Quite a number of shops have Cash Only signs.
Can get a gorgeous meight 'n prayter pie anywhere, mind.
The longer this goes on, the sillier he looks.
They ALL have to be dragged kicking and screaming, either by the electorate or by the men in grey suits ...
Sweeney74 said:
Starmer lays down the gauntlet at Cabinet!
"Come and have a go..."
Why does he not just sack the shysters in cabinet and have a new one of young talent, they could not be worse than the ragtag bunch of losers trying to save their sorry skins by ousting him and certainly be no worse for the country.
Call the losers bluffs and sack them, show he has a backbone and at worst he will take the whole ship down with him.
He won't.
Mr. Harding went out and sent the message, and it may be as well that we should follow it to its destination. Within thirty minutes of its leaving Barchester it reached the Earl of –––– in his inner library. What elaborate letters, what eloquent appeals, what indignant remonstrances he might there have to frame, at such a moment, may be conceived but not described! How he was preparing his thunder for successful rivals, standing like a British peer with his back to the sea-coal fire, and his hands in his breeches pockets—how his fine eye was lit up with anger, and his forehead gleamed with patriotism—how he stamped his foot as he thought of his heavy associates—how he all but swore as he remembered how much too clever one of them had been—my creative readers may imagine. But was he so engaged? No: history and truth compel me to deny it. He was sitting easily in a lounging chair, conning over a Newmarket list, and by his elbow on the table was lying open an uncut French novel on which he was engaged.
There are wholly logical reasons for Starmer deciding to tough this one out & it’s not just ‘don’t you know there’s a war on’ or him thinking it unfair; contenders not ready/hesitant +MPs nervous about what they’d be unleashing means coup might be quite brittle. But it does mean this ends messily.
Either the party is resolved to do this, mass govt resignations follow (a la Boris Johnson) & recriminations last years. Or it’s not resolved & he survives, but authority diminished & minus some good people quit for nothing. Either way it’s going to be an emotional day with feelings running v high
Another option might be an M. Bison.
So, I still think a Streeting coronation can be engineered.
So what’s the fucking point in Starmer staying on? It guarantees more pain down the line, certain humiliating defeat, a painful ejection, and replacement by a man he is said to abhor
Does Skyr really need another 10 weeks wages that badly?
I know for a fact that famous Fleet Street hacks lurk on this site, waiting to purloin ideas
“Mr. Wodehouse's idyllic (applicable to Wodehouse but not Trollope!) world can never stale. He will continue to release future generations from captivity that may be more irksome than our own. He has made a world for us to live in and delight in.”
I once heard John Major say that 'The Small House at Allington' was his favourite book. I have thought well of him ever since.
If several candidates get 81+ supporting MPs (say Streeting and Rayner) then Starmer would still win against a split opposition.
I think he is safe, unless there is a mass resignation of his cabinet or when Burnham gets into parliament.
(Workshopping loyalist rallying cries)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/12/bahamas-goes-to-polls-caribbean-election-battle
Because the Prime minister banned it.
If the majority are former Starmer supporters, many will also be current Starmer supporters who will support Starmer rather than Streeting. Your logic only works if Starmer voluntarily resigns and supports Streeting. He won't.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/12/labour-mp-seat-burnham-allies-not-stand-aside-marie-rimmer
"Backs Starmer."
LOL
Woe Vienna? Boycotts and blackouts mar buildup as Eurovision 2026 begins
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/may/12/vienna-boycotts-blackouts-buildup-eurovision-song-contest-2026-israel
Titter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2026/england/councils/E08000013
There’s no air defences left, and no tanks left. They’re now sitting ducks for Ukranian drones and missiles.
https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2053803416787247611
The next few names on the list sound more like pubs than politicians, then there's a whole cluster of failed modern Prime Ministers clocking out around 3 years. And the Duke of Wellington, who got the boot after 2 years, 320 days.
"Good" says Burnham. Who perhaps coincidentally has been spotted getting on the train to London earlier this morning...
The best bet is probably somewhere with a middle class centrist demographic where Greens and LDs are both roughly equal in support at about 18% with no obvious claim to be best placed to beat Labour, Tories and Reform are down at about 14%, and Labour can win on 30% of the vote with the rest going to the assorted fruit loops who appear at special events. Probably somewhere they were comfortably on 38%+ at the GE.
"When I went to bed just under 20% of the Labour parliamentary party had said Starmer should go and 4 members of the Cabinet were suggesting likewise but had not resigned. Has that changed? Is there a chance that Starmer simply tells them to get lost? I think that we might just be getting ahead of ourselves here.
Life would be much simpler if there was any kind of consensus in Labour about what happens next but there isn’t. It is far from clear that any specific candidate has 80 MPs let alone a majority."
Its not often I get things right so I thought I should share it with you.
And wasn't Burnham supposed to announce the seat he had lined up on Monday?
This looks like it could go on for ages.
I take a look at my strength and realize there's not much left
'Cause I've been driftin' and failin' so long that
Even Shabana thinks that my time is gone
But I never crossed Burnham when he didn't deserve it
Streeting may be a punk, but that's not unheard of
Wes: watch how you're stalkin', where you're walkin'
Or Ange with her homes might be doin the talk
I really hate to quit, I don't wanna go
As they vote, I see myself in a little poke: fools
I'm the kinda Knight little homies wanna be like
On my knee, next to Ange, we just bein woke, right?
I've been spendin' most my life livin' in Keir Starmer paradise
I've been spendin' most my life livin' in Keir Starmer paradise
Wanna keep spendin' rest my life livin' in Keir Starmer paradise
Wanna keep spendin' rest my life livin' in Keir Starmer paradise
Power and the money, money and the power
Minute after minute, hour after hour
Everybody's runnin', but half of them are chicken'
It's goin' on: it's Streeting, but dunno what he's cookin'
They say I crash an' burn, but nobody's here to reach me
I can't do empathy, why can't they teach me?
I guess they can't, I guess they won't
I guess they front, that's why I know my life is outta luck. Fools!
Its hard in the north to find enough of those areas to be contiguous enough to form a safe seat though!
Labour MP: “Shabana Mahmood's briefing last night denied the Prime Minister the opportunity to leave with dignity, and as a result, the whole thing is going to descend into a bloody mess from which this government may never recover, no matter who takes over."