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  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,597
    Do people in Peterborough just hate all their Councillors?
    Pretty much every ward has been a gain with parties swapping wards in all directions so far.

    Fickle lot.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,608
    tpfkar said:

    Do people in Peterborough just hate all their Councillors?
    Pretty much every ward has been a gain with parties swapping wards in all directions so far.

    Fickle lot.

    Sounds like a fun place to me.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    John Curtice is only 72? He looks positively skeletal
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,295
    Don't worry SKS paying tens of billions to give away our land and secure his mate a fat commission will cut through and save their poil ratings any moment now.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,835
    It's been minutes without a result.

    I'm getting bored.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    If results carry on at this scale, Reform plateau/dip narratives are going to be consigned to the dustbin. Though of course it’s very early.

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2052538514948943953?s=20

    Polling failure....your joking not another one.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    rcs1000 said:

    It's been minutes without a result.

    I'm getting bored.

    🚨 RESULT: Mersey and Weston (Halton) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 37.6% (+37.6)
    🔴 LAB: 27.2% (-30.0)
    🟢 GRN: 15.7% (+15.7)
    ⚪️ IND: 8.6% (+1.8)
    🟠 LDM: 7.4% (-17.0)
    🔵 CON: 3.5% (-8.1)

    Reform UK GAIN from Labour
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,608

    If results carry on at this scale, Reform plateau/dip narratives are going to be consigned to the dustbin. Though of course it’s very early.

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2052538514948943953?s=20

    Polling failure....your joking not another one.

    I was expecting a boost to their polling even if it was just a moderately good night.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    Mr Hodges opines

    “Obviously very, very early. But given some of the reports that are starting to circulate I think these results are going to be worse than Labour's worst expectations.”
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    Taz said:

    Ouch

    Ditton, Hale Village and Halebank (Halton) council election result:

    REF: 53.0% (+53.0)
    LAB: 29.3% (-50.9)
    GRN: 12.6% (+12.6)
    CON: 5.1% (-14.7)

    Reform GAIN from Labour.

    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/2052534305721573788#m
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    edited May 8
    Why are 3 talking heads jammed in on one side of Laura K and Dr David Bullshitter is on his own on the other side?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    REF: Winning Here. There. Everywhere.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    'Looking at early results in Halton through, left-right bloc lens and you see the right bloc is up significantly (this isn’t just Tory Ref switching). Can’t know how much is differential turnout it and how much is cross bloc switching, but likely some of both.'

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2052543579961151679?s=20
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    theProle said:

    In David Lammy is a genius news, he's just been asked if SKS should set a timetable for his departure, and has responded "... there is a timetable, and that's the next election..."

    I'm not sure sure that explaining the plan is for SKS to stay on and lose the next election will be quite the reassurance his activist are hoping to hear!

    The man is so dense light bends around him.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    edited May 8
    theProle said:

    In David Lammy is a genius news, he's just been asked if SKS should set a timetable for his departure, and has responded "... there is a timetable, and that's the next election..."

    I'm not sure sure that explaining the plan is for SKS to stay on and lose the next election will be quite the reassurance his activist are hoping to hear!

    Sounds like a classic Lammy moment...

    For someone like Prezza, a comment like that would be endearing (John being John) but unfortunately David Lammy has none of the redeeming qualities...

    Now Ange is much more of a Prezza than a Lammy...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    edited May 8
    🚨 RESULT: Quays (Salford) council ward:

    🟢 GRN: 42.4% (+34.0)
    🟠 LDM: 34.9% (-25.5)
    🔴 LAB: 11.7% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 6.8% (+6.8)
    🔵 CON: 4.1% (+4.1)

    Green GAIN from Lib Dem

    BBC vote goes Green....
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    theProle said:

    In David Lammy is a genius news, he's just been asked if SKS should set a timetable for his departure, and has responded "... there is a timetable, and that's the next election..."

    I'm not sure sure that explaining the plan is for SKS to stay on and lose the next election will be quite the reassurance his activist are hoping to hear!

    He also seemed to imply that this wasn't a "proper election" like a GE.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,536

    🚨 RESULT: Quays (Salford) council ward:

    🟢 GRN: 42.4% (+34.0)
    🟠 LDM: 34.9% (-25.5)
    🔴 LAB: 11.7% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 6.8% (+6.8)
    🔵 CON: 4.1% (+4.1)

    Green GAIN from Lib Dem

    Seems a nice place with Reform getting under 10% !
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 8,015
    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 28,058

    🚨 RESULT: Quays (Salford) council ward:

    🟢 GRN: 42.4% (+34.0)
    🟠 LDM: 34.9% (-25.5)
    🔴 LAB: 11.7% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 6.8% (+6.8)
    🔵 CON: 4.1% (+4.1)

    Green GAIN from Lib Dem

    BBC vote goes Green....

    Losing here…
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    I think disgraceful that the Tory talking head on BBC not wearing a tie...who do they think they are!
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 8,015
    Philp is looking for progress from last year's NEV of 15%.

    Talk about low expectations!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    https://x.com/BritainElects/status/2052545841827663924

    Leigh South (Wigan) council election result:

    REF: 48.3% (+48.3)
    LAB: 25.2% (-24.6)
    GRN: 15.0% (+15.0)
    CON: 6.2% (-32.8)
    : 5.3% (+5.3)

    Reform GAIN from Labour.
  • EScrymgeourEScrymgeour Posts: 146

    I think disgraceful that the Tory talking head on BBC not wearing a tie...who do they think they are!

    Hippies.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 2,027
    edited May 8
    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    How on earth does he get into the Commons? On these numbers, if he got a free choice of a by-election in any seat in the country, he almost certainly loses it to either Reform or the Greens wherever he chooses.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    edited May 8
    Seats won so far Reform 52, LDs 8, Labour 6, Conservatives 4, Greens 4, Independents 3
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    edited May 8
    Currently on BBC News...Your the uniparty, no you are the uniparty.....grown up stuff.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,311

    Currently on BBC News...Your the uniparty, no you are the uniparty.....grown up stuff.

    Was just about to make the same comment. This is absolutely dismal.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    I think they are more likely to pivot to Yvette Cooper to see them to a defeat at the next GE.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    Labour down 23% in Wandsworth
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    But, but, but... If you're going to go to the trouble of ditching Starmer to replace him with Miliband... Then... Why bother???

    So my guess is. despite everything, Sir Kier remains the leader and PM until Election '29 where Labour are turfed out, Ref win the election and we get a Farage-led government and then we'll have to see where what happens next...
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    Currently on BBC News...Your the uniparty, no you are the uniparty.....grown up stuff.

    When you have Chris Bryant, that is the level at which he operates particular opposite any Reform type
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376

    Labour down 23% in Wandsworth

    If the numbers from the beeb hold i think Tories would take it with Greens picking up a swathe of seats
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    I think they are more likely to pivot to Yvette Cooper to see them to a defeat at the next GE.
    It could happen!

    I didn't mention her as she wasn't listed in @MikeL top four odds list but I would say Yvette is there or thereabouts with Milliband for sure...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    Tories have held Broxbourne and move into second on council seats won.

    Reform 94, Conservatives 13, Labour 12, LDs 12, Greens 6
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    I think they are more likely to pivot to Yvette Cooper to see them to a defeat at the next GE.
    It could happen!

    I didn't mention her as she wasn't listed in @MikeL top four odds list but I would say Yvette is there or thereabouts with Milliband for sure...
    Would have the added advantage keeping her husband off out tv screens for a couple of years
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 8,015
    Updated to include Cooper:

    Burnham 3.35
    Rayner 5.5
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13.5
    Farage 14
    Cooper 26
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,370
    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    By-elections can buck the national trend if the right narrative is formed.

    "Vote for me to get rid of Keir Starmer" could just work for Burnham.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    Anyone got any thoughts on the Oxford results? My guess is a lot of Green gains from Labour
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332

    Currently on BBC News...Your the uniparty, no you are the uniparty.....grown up stuff.

    When you have Chris Bryant, that is the level at which he operates particular opposite any Reform type
    David Lammy followed by Chris Bryant, who says Labour have a talent problem....
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    MikeL said:

    Updated to include Cooper:

    Burnham 3.35
    Rayner 5.5
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13.5
    Farage 14
    Cooper 26

    Miliband, Farage and Cooper all look value there to me...
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    Shenfield (Brentwood) council election

    CON: 36.5% (-2.7)
    RFM: 28.0% (+23.4)
    LDM: 27.7% (-18.4)
    GRN: 5.3% (+2.4)
    LAB: 2.5% (-4.7)

    CON HOLD
    Changes w/ 2024.

    An Essex hold for Con
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    Currently on BBC News...Your the uniparty, no you are the uniparty.....grown up stuff.

    When you have Chris Bryant, that is the level at which he operates particular opposite any Reform type
    David Lammy followed by Chris Bryant, who says Labour have a talent problem....
    This issue dates back to Blair and Brown who both hated those who had real talent. Not just a Labour problem
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 28,058

    Shenfield (Brentwood) council election

    CON: 36.5% (-2.7)
    RFM: 28.0% (+23.4)
    LDM: 27.7% (-18.4)
    GRN: 5.3% (+2.4)
    LAB: 2.5% (-4.7)

    CON HOLD
    Changes w/ 2024.

    An Essex hold for Con

    BBC just showed the Tories holding Broxbourne council.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    By-elections can buck the national trend if the right narrative is formed.

    "Vote for me to get rid of Keir Starmer" could just work for Burnham.
    It could but I honestly can't see it...
  • MilesPartridgeMilesPartridge Posts: 89
    Bloody hell this Lib Dem on bbc speaks actual sense....
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    edited May 8

    Anyone got any thoughts on the Oxford results? My guess is a lot of Green gains from Labour

    Do you have a link? These has no results yet:

    https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2026/england/results
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    edited May 8
    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,133
    edited May 8
    I'm feeling left out this evening as our Reformageddon was last year.

    Starmer is surely toast but there's good arguments against all the listed replacements. Lay the field?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    🚨 RESULT: Abram (Wigan) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 56.1% (+56.1)
    🔴 LAB: 24.2% (-32.1)
    🟢 GRN: 11.3% (+11.3)
    🔵 CON: 4.5% (-3.4)
    🟠 LDM: 4.0% (-0.8)

    Reform UK GAIN from Labour
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,835

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    By-elections can buck the national trend if the right narrative is formed.

    "Vote for me to get rid of Keir Starmer" could just work for Burnham.
    Yes: Starmer's machinations to prevent Burnham getting into Parliament could really help him.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,311
    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314

    🚨 RESULT: Abram (Wigan) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 56.1% (+56.1)
    🔴 LAB: 24.2% (-32.1)
    🟢 GRN: 11.3% (+11.3)
    🔵 CON: 4.5% (-3.4)
    🟠 LDM: 4.0% (-0.8)

    Reform UK GAIN from Labour

    They might as well say "Reform GAIN UK from Labour"
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    Oxford will go GREEN whether at this election or (a) subsequent elections, the writing is on the wall there...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    Laura K on BBC: lets Zia Yusuf bang on uncontrolled. Not good.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002w16c/election-26-part-1
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    No wonder Labour wanted to cancel many of the elections going on yesterday
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    LDs gain Stockport
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    edited May 8

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
  • The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 592
    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    But, but, but... If you're going to go to the trouble of ditching Starmer to replace him with Miliband... Then... Why bother???

    So my guess is. despite everything, Sir Kier remains the leader and PM until Election '29 where Labour are turfed out, Ref win the election and we get a Farage-led government and then we'll have to see where what happens next...
    There is no chance that SKS will run for PM at the next GE.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,835
    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
    A gain of 2 seats. So not a huge step forward
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,798
    nico67 said:

    🚨 RESULT: Quays (Salford) council ward:

    🟢 GRN: 42.4% (+34.0)
    🟠 LDM: 34.9% (-25.5)
    🔴 LAB: 11.7% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 6.8% (+6.8)
    🔵 CON: 4.1% (+4.1)

    Green GAIN from Lib Dem

    Seems a nice place with Reform getting under 10% !
    This is the ward in which the BBC is based!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 67,195
    Taz said:

    No wonder Labour wanted to cancel many of the elections going on yesterday

    SKS did.

    It's a development of his Ming Vase strategy; try & deny anyone else the chance to get anywhere near it.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    edited May 8
    rcs1000 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeL said:

    Burnham now favourite by big margin.

    Burnham 3.3
    Rayner 5.3
    Streeting 8.4
    Miliband 13

    But how does it happen when he isn't an MP and can only become an MP by contesting a by-election... but there is no safe Labour seat in the country?

    To me, as I've always thought, Ed Miliband looks the only safe bet there....

    Burnham: Not an MP and no clear route to Westminster that isn't fraught with all sorts of dangers....

    Ange: Tax affairs still an issue. Too common for Labour snobs like @Roger Likes to party (good) but could be a drunk (not so good)

    WEZZZZZZZZ: Very "emotional" , too right-wing and could well be an ex-MP at the next election without doing a chicken run.

    Milliband: Labour through and through, a loser (Lab love a loser) in the Cabinet but "above" all the crap and a safe pair of hands to take them to a respectable defeat...

    I know where my money would be.
    By-elections can buck the national trend if the right narrative is formed.

    "Vote for me to get rid of Keir Starmer" could just work for Burnham.
    Yes: Starmer's machinations to prevent Burnham getting into Parliament could really help him.
    I mean it's possible. Junior. But it just all feels so very, very, very far fetched... A bit like how James Purnell was going to challenge El Gord in 2009 (and Purnell was at least an MP then) to become PM and was somehow going to win Election 2010 for Labour...

    In the end 95% of these plots and sub-plots never really come to anything so we'll have to see!

    Hope Smithson The Elder is doing OK? Please pass on our best wishes and kindest regards to our legendary OGH! :heart:
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    edited May 8
    John Curtice claiming Reform aren't actually doing that well in terms of National Vote Share.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    The walls of Jericho have fallen.
    Glad I no longer live there.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,798

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
    A gain of 2 seats. So not a huge step forward
    Lab lose 5 out of the 6 seats they held - 2 to LD, 2 to Ref, 1 to Green.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
    Hinksey Park is a Labour hold for new councillor Siobhan Lancaster.

    🌹 Lab 1012
    💚 Green 665
    🔶 LibDem 127
    ➡️ Reform 122
    🔵 Con 107

    Labour’s Mike Rowley retains Barton & Sandhills – one of Reform’s top targets. Looking plausible that Reform may not win any seats in Oxford.

    🌹 Lab 578
    ➡️ Reform 336
    💚 Green 237
    ◻️ Ind [Artwell] 165
    🔵 Con 124
    🔶 LibDem 96
    🔴 Workers 29

    Headington is a comfortable Liberal Democrat hold for group leader Chris Smowton.

    🔶 LibDem 927
    🌹 Lab 511
    💚 Green 422
    🔵 Con 185
    ➡️ Reform 181

    Source: https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    RESULT: Mincinglake and Whipton (Exeter) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 34.1% (+34.1)
    🟢 GRN: 29.1% (+18.7)
    🔴 LAB: 23.6% (-38.2)
    🔵 CON: 6.8% (-15.3)
    🟠 LDM: 6.4% (+0.6)

    Reform UK GAIN from Labour
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
    Hinksey Park is a Labour hold for new councillor Siobhan Lancaster.

    🌹 Lab 1012
    💚 Green 665
    🔶 LibDem 127
    ➡️ Reform 122
    🔵 Con 107

    Labour’s Mike Rowley retains Barton & Sandhills – one of Reform’s top targets. Looking plausible that Reform may not win any seats in Oxford.

    🌹 Lab 578
    ➡️ Reform 336
    💚 Green 237
    ◻️ Ind [Artwell] 165
    🔵 Con 124
    🔶 LibDem 96
    🔴 Workers 29

    Headington is a comfortable Liberal Democrat hold for group leader Chris Smowton.

    🔶 LibDem 927
    🌹 Lab 511
    💚 Green 422
    🔵 Con 185
    ➡️ Reform 181

    Source: https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Reform never had any realistic hope of any Oxford City seats

    Oxford Clarion is not an unbiased outlet.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,798
    Cookie said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
    A gain of 2 seats. So not a huge step forward
    Lab lose 5 out of the 6 seats they held - 2 to LD, 2 to Ref, 1 to Green.
    Also 9 of the 11 they were contesting in Salford, 22 od the 22 they were contesting in Wigan...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 67,195
    Cookie said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
    A gain of 2 seats. So not a huge step forward
    Lab lose 5 out of the 6 seats they held - 2 to LD, 2 to Ref, 1 to Green.
    The survivor must be personally popular.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
    Hinksey Park is a Labour hold for new councillor Siobhan Lancaster.

    🌹 Lab 1012
    💚 Green 665
    🔶 LibDem 127
    ➡️ Reform 122
    🔵 Con 107

    Labour’s Mike Rowley retains Barton & Sandhills – one of Reform’s top targets. Looking plausible that Reform may not win any seats in Oxford.

    🌹 Lab 578
    ➡️ Reform 336
    💚 Green 237
    ◻️ Ind [Artwell] 165
    🔵 Con 124
    🔶 LibDem 96
    🔴 Workers 29

    Headington is a comfortable Liberal Democrat hold for group leader Chris Smowton.

    🔶 LibDem 927
    🌹 Lab 511
    💚 Green 422
    🔵 Con 185
    ➡️ Reform 181

    Source: https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Reform never had any realistic hope of any Oxford City seats

    Oxford Clarion is not an unbiased outlet.
    I know, but BritainElects has gone to bed and Laura K isn't slapping Zia Yusuf enough, so there's nobody else.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    RESULT: Plympton Chaddlewood (Plymouth) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 40.6% (+40.6)
    🟢 GRN: 35.1% (-22.6)
    🔵 CON: 12.4% (-22.5)
    ⚪️ IND: 5.5% (+5.5)
    🔴 LAB: 4.2% (-3.1)
    🟠 LDM: 2.2% (+2.2)

    Reform UK GAIN from Greens
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    RESULT: Plympton Chaddlewood (Plymouth) council ward:

    ➡️ RFM: 40.6% (+40.6)
    🟢 GRN: 35.1% (-22.6)
    🔵 CON: 12.4% (-22.5)
    ⚪️ IND: 5.5% (+5.5)
    🔴 LAB: 4.2% (-3.1)
    🟠 LDM: 2.2% (+2.2)

    Reform UK GAIN from Greens

    That is a big shift
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    Captain Underpants in one breath saying Welsh Labour has trod on people too hard then in the next, 20mph is a great policy.....
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,311

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
    Hinksey Park is a Labour hold for new councillor Siobhan Lancaster.

    🌹 Lab 1012
    💚 Green 665
    🔶 LibDem 127
    ➡️ Reform 122
    🔵 Con 107

    Labour’s Mike Rowley retains Barton & Sandhills – one of Reform’s top targets. Looking plausible that Reform may not win any seats in Oxford.

    🌹 Lab 578
    ➡️ Reform 336
    💚 Green 237
    ◻️ Ind [Artwell] 165
    🔵 Con 124
    🔶 LibDem 96
    🔴 Workers 29

    Headington is a comfortable Liberal Democrat hold for group leader Chris Smowton.

    🔶 LibDem 927
    🌹 Lab 511
    💚 Green 422
    🔵 Con 185
    ➡️ Reform 181

    Source: https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Reform never had any realistic hope of any Oxford City seats

    Oxford Clarion is not an unbiased outlet.
    There are unbiased outlets?
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    Greens have also taken Cowley

    A link would be nice.
    Oxford City Council is putting the results at https://www.oxford.gov.uk/elections-voting/oxford-city-council-election-results-7-may-2026 and they're being live-posted by https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Thank you El_Capitano. That gives us this for Oxford (text from oxfordclarion.bsky.social, not me)

    https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social

    Cutteslowe & Sunnymead has returned LibDem incumbent Laurence Fouweather with a thumping majority.

    🔶 LibDem 1044
    💚 Green 396
    🔵 Con 388
    🌹 Lab 351
    ➡️ Reform 165

    Another Oxford upset: the Greens sensationally gain Carfax & Jericho from Labour, with Sushila Dhall unseating planning chief Alex Hollingsworth. Two Green gains in two declarations so far.

    💚 Green 811
    🌹 Lab 523
    🔶 LibDem 123
    🔵 Con 84
    ➡️ Reform 75

    First result of the night from Oxford and it’s a stunner: in Cowley, a Labour stronghold until 2024, the Greens’ Edward Mundy has wiped the floor with independent Ajaz Rehman, with Reform nowhere to be seen.

    💚 Green 1031
    ◻️ Ind [Rehman] 656
    🌹 Lab 291
    ➡️ Reform 219
    🔶 LibDem 69
    🔵 Con 58
    Hinksey Park is a Labour hold for new councillor Siobhan Lancaster.

    🌹 Lab 1012
    💚 Green 665
    🔶 LibDem 127
    ➡️ Reform 122
    🔵 Con 107

    Labour’s Mike Rowley retains Barton & Sandhills – one of Reform’s top targets. Looking plausible that Reform may not win any seats in Oxford.

    🌹 Lab 578
    ➡️ Reform 336
    💚 Green 237
    ◻️ Ind [Artwell] 165
    🔵 Con 124
    🔶 LibDem 96
    🔴 Workers 29

    Headington is a comfortable Liberal Democrat hold for group leader Chris Smowton.

    🔶 LibDem 927
    🌹 Lab 511
    💚 Green 422
    🔵 Con 185
    ➡️ Reform 181

    Source: https://bsky.app/profile/oxfordclarion.bsky.social
    Reform never had any realistic hope of any Oxford City seats

    Oxford Clarion is not an unbiased outlet.
    There are unbiased outlets?
    Compared to the agenda of those behind Oxford Clarion, yes. It might a relative. But OC is not a site I care to visit unless I have to
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,798

    Cookie said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    LDs gain Stockport

    As in the whole council?
    Yes
    A gain of 2 seats. So not a huge step forward
    Lab lose 5 out of the 6 seats they held - 2 to LD, 2 to Ref, 1 to Green.
    The survivor must be personally popular.
    Found the results for Stockport, althpugh they don't 100% match what's on the BBC. Ref gains in Central and Brinnington and Manor - i.e. the poorest parts of the town. LD gains in Marple South and High Lane and Davenport and Cale Green - both middling to upper middling. Lab holds in Heatons South and Heatons North - middle class and inside the M60: Stockport's equivalent of Didsbury.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 28,058

    John Curtice claiming Reform aren't actually doing that well in terms of National Vote Share.

    Is he also going on to say that the results show they don’t need to be doing that well? (Just as Labour didn’t do that well in 2024)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    RESULT: Central (Hull) council ward:

    🟠 LDM: 31.3% (+5.0)
    🔴 LAB: 28.4% (-33.4)
    ➡️ RFM: 23.2% (+23.2)
    🟢 GRN: 13.4% (+13.4)
    🔵 CON: 3.6% (-4.5)

    Lib Dems GAIN from Labour
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    edited May 8
    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332
    Labour has held Wigan council but lost all 22 seats it was defending to Reform UK
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,798
    edited May 8
    Just in case anyone thought Oldham is dodgy:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/councillors-ferrari-smashed-police-scrambled-33908975#google_vignette

    Councillor's Ferrari smashed as police scrambled to Oldham local election count.

    Kamran Ghafoor, leader of the Oldham Group and one of three councillors in the Hollinwood ward, says he had parked his Ferrari on Union Street, close to where the count was taking place.

    Earlier this year, a King Street building owned by KKS Investors, made up of Coun Ghafoor and Sameer Zulqurnain, collapsed in Oldham town centre. An avalanche of bricks, roof tiles, and the entire contents of a rented out apartment came crashing onto the street - caving into the Euro King Mini Market below and crushing a bus stop on the pavement outside. Five people were injured.

    The councillor insisted the company had done nothing wrong prior to the building’s collapse, but he had already earned a reputation in some quarters as a ‘slum’ landlord.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    edited May 8

    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard

    Maybe Con doing ever so, ever so slightly better than expected, albeit from too few results to call???
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    GIN1138 said:

    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard

    Maybe Con doing ever so, ever so slightly better than expected, albeit from to few results to call???
    Not too bad in the south and London so far albeit poor in Essex
    Now held 9 in Fareham just one drop to Reform
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,344

    Just heard Green has taken a seat from Labour in Oxford. Jericho was a red stronghold for years.

    The walls of Jericho have fallen.
    In the shadow of the Cutteslow walls
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 6,091
    I can't cope with any more of this

    BBC coverage has been dreadful
    Counting too slow

    Night
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    GIN1138 said:

    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard

    Maybe Con doing ever so, ever so slightly better than expected, albeit from too few results to call???
    Tories currently 4th on seats won, behind Reform, Labour and the LDs but Kemi can take comfort in the fact the Tories have so far won more seats than the Greens
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,254
    HYUFD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard

    Maybe Con doing ever so, ever so slightly better than expected, albeit from too few results to call???
    Tories currently 4th on seats won, behind Reform, Labour and the LDs but Kemi can take comfort in the fact the Tories have so far won more seats than the Greens
    Well, that's all right then :)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632

    GIN1138 said:

    Tories have held 7 of the seats declared so far in Fareham so will hold the council in Bravermans back yard

    Maybe Con doing ever so, ever so slightly better than expected, albeit from to few results to call???
    Not too bad in the south and London so far albeit poor in Essex
    Now held 9 in Fareham just one drop to Reform
    Not so fast

    RESULT: Shenfield (Brentwood) council ward:

    🔵 CON: 36.5% (-2.7)
    ➡️ RFM: 28.0% (+23.4)
    🟠 LDM: 27.7% (-18.4)
    🟢 GRN: 5.3% (+2.4)
    🔴 LAB: 2.5% (-4.7)

    The Tories HOLD

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2052556958440300563?s=20
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