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Will Andy Burnham become an MP in 2026? – politicalbetting.com

This market from Ladbrokes does not expect Andy Burnham to become an MP and I agree, the key quote from the Sunday Telegraph about Andy Burnham winning over the NEC

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  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828
    edited May 3
    🎵🎶🎵Oh Angela Rayner 🎵🎶🎵
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,440
    edited May 3
    Second!

    The 'major' parties can only dream of such success.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828

    This Sky Sports F1 cameraman got very distracted although he did redeem himself by capturing the reaction of a McLaren engineer.

    https://x.com/HaterReport/status/2050717420713627671

    She's a statuesque lass, oh and she forgot her blouse. Silly girl!
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,390
    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    Ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago Dan was pretty good. He was on the money. Tell.me Mr Hodges, where did it all go wrong?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,828

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    Ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago Dan was pretty good. He was on the money. Tell.me Mr Hodges, where did it all go wrong?
    Currygate.

    It drove so many people mad especially when Sir Keir was cleared.
    On here too!
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    For the insomniacs there’s more on the SKS substack

    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/2050848139972587885?s=61
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    That’s the sort of vague post crap some people here would be proud of.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,944
    Forced choice here I would go for no. But 2/5 is not particularly attractive. It assumes that Starmer doesn't either give up or lose control of the NEC. Both are unlikely but the risk is not negligible.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,221
    FPT

    I share TSE's scepticism as expressed earlier in the (previous) thread.

    These stories are clearly coming from the Burnham camp, with absolutely no cooroberating evidence. "Story" is an apt word for them because they are fiction. The Telegraph doesn't mind running them because they serve to undermine Starmer. But I remember the times when those on the left didn't lap up every word they read in the Telegraph as the gospel truth.

    Reality is that Starmer has ensured that the factional right in the Labour Party is absolutely dominant in terms of the NEC officer posts, with the exception of Lucy Powell who they could not prevent from being elected as Deputy Leader. Even if some of them have decided that Starmer has to go, then such is their factionalism that they are not going to try an engineer a drawn out coup that would somehow usher in the favoured candidate of the Socialist Campaign Group, just because he is the candidate most likely to appeal to the general public. They will try a reset with one of their own, which means either getting behind Streeting or, if they think Streeting has no hope of winning a member ballot, they might just compromise a bit and favour someone with broader appeal like say Cooper. But with Burnham flying his left wing manifesto from the rooftops, no way will they facilitate a route for Burnham.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579
    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,143
    If Burnham becomes an MP, what does everyone think his chances of being PM are. It's not exact but this bet prices that at 50ish% effectively.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,390

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    Ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago Dan was pretty good. He was on the money. Tell.me Mr Hodges, where did it all go wrong?
    Currygate.

    It drove so many people mad especially when Sir Keir was cleared.
    Seems a perfectly reasonable post to me. Hodges went to the NE including Washington and talked to loads of voters and they have concerns about Farage and his ability to run/form a government etc but the alternative seems to be Starmer and they hate the guy with a passion.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,379

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    What did Dan Hodges hear in Washington? What is this political lifeline?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,602
    Pulpstar said:

    If Burnham becomes an MP, what does everyone think his chances of being PM are. It's not exact but this bet prices that at 50ish% effectively.

    If he becomes an MP his chances of becoming Prime Minister then become dependent on HMRC's investigation into Angela Rayner.

    I cannot find the quote right now but there were some Labour MPs speaking off the record saying it would look hypocritical to criticise the tax affairs of Farage & Tice when you're led by somebody who has been fined by HMRC.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,749
    Pulpstar said:

    If Burnham becomes an MP, what does everyone think his chances of being PM are. It's not exact but this bet prices that at 50ish% effectively.

    Good question. IMO greater than 50% because it would be a bandwagon. If the party wants him and no other they wait and he comes back to do it. If they don't, he doesn't come back.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,379
    UK ‘invention agency’ grants £50m of public money to US tech and venture capital firms
    Exclusive: Brainchild of Dominic Cummings, Aria is aimed at funding ‘crazy’ scientific projects to benefit the UK

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/03/uk-invention-agency-aria-pledges-70-million-public-money-us-tech-venture-capital-dominic-cummings
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,143
    kinabalu said:

    Pulpstar said:

    If Burnham becomes an MP, what does everyone think his chances of being PM are. It's not exact but this bet prices that at 50ish% effectively.

    Good question. IMO greater than 50% because it would be a bandwagon. If the party wants him and no other they wait and he comes back to do it. If they don't, he doesn't come back.
    Then Burnham next PM is the better bet
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,602
    What utter woke nonsense exists in the Florida of Ron DeSantis.

    Bringing forward the Miami grand prix by three hours because a bit of bad weather.

    You wouldn't see this nonsense in Europe.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,244
    "Fire are reported at Russia’s Primorsk oil export port in Leningrad region after an overnight drone attack. Regional authorities acknowledged the strike and claimed more than 60 drones were 'shot' down. FIRMS also picked up strong fires."

    https://t.me/noel_reports/45857?single

    Ukraine also hit a couple of oil tankers outside the export terminal at Novorossiysk.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,144

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    Ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago Dan was pretty good. He was on the money. Tell.me Mr Hodges, where did it all go wrong?
    Currygate.

    It drove so many people mad especially when Sir Keir was cleared.
    Seems a perfectly reasonable post to me. Hodges went to the NE including Washington and talked to loads of voters and they have concerns about Farage and his ability to run/form a government etc but the alternative seems to be Starmer and they hate the guy with a passion.
    But this is why the current polling is basically illusory.

    We hear people saying they’ll never vote Labour again, Labour is finished etc etc.

    If they get a new leader people don’t hate it will change.

    Farage is only popular because Labour isn’t.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,477

    "Fire are reported at Russia’s Primorsk oil export port in Leningrad region after an overnight drone attack. Regional authorities acknowledged the strike and claimed more than 60 drones were 'shot' down. FIRMS also picked up strong fires."

    https://t.me/noel_reports/45857?single

    Ukraine also hit a couple of oil tankers outside the export terminal at Novorossiysk.

    Just like in the Middle East, the debris from the shot down drones always seems to land on the intended target.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,144
    Farage essentially is on a way mission: down.

    But this will only matter if Labour change leaders. They must.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,144
    edited May 3
    Deleted
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,944
    edited May 3
    The Norstat poll in the ST today is good news for the Tories, they are forecast to win 16 MSPs, the same as Labour. I think the Tories would bite your hand off for that right now.

    SNP on 57 and the Greens on 11. Greens look a little low to me. The SNP may well have a serious apathy problem but not enough to cause them major problems. Labour on 16 would be not much short of catastrophic. Reform on 19 would be a major change in Scotland.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,561

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    Ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago Dan was pretty good. He was on the money. Tell.me Mr Hodges, where did it all go wrong?
    Currygate.

    It drove so many people mad especially when Sir Keir was cleared.
    Seems a perfectly reasonable post to me. Hodges went to the NE including Washington and talked to loads of voters and they have concerns about Farage and his ability to run/form a government etc but the alternative seems to be Starmer and they hate the guy with a passion.
    But this is why the current polling is basically illusory.

    We hear people saying they’ll never vote Labour again, Labour is finished etc etc.

    If they get a new leader people don’t hate it will change.

    Farage is only popular because Labour isn’t.
    Farage is about projecting hope onto a (un)suitable vessel.

    Bit like Burnham.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,602
    My God.

    Did Kemi Badenoch really use footage of Bloody Sunday to hail the awesomeness of the British Army?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,944

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    DavidL said:

    The Norstat poll in the ST today is good news for the Tories, they are forecast to win 16 MSPs, the same as Labour. I think the Tories would bite your hand off for that right now.

    SNP on 57 and the Greens on 11. Greens look a little low to me. The SNP may well have a serious apathy problem but not enough to cause them major problems. Labour on 16 would be not much short of catastrophic. Reform on 19 would be a major change in Scotland.

    Also 55/45 for Indy, so perhaps not so good news for the Union.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,561

    FPT

    I share TSE's scepticism as expressed earlier in the (previous) thread.

    These stories are clearly coming from the Burnham camp, with absolutely no cooroberating evidence. "Story" is an apt word for them because they are fiction. The Telegraph doesn't mind running them because they serve to undermine Starmer. But I remember the times when those on the left didn't lap up every word they read in the Telegraph as the gospel truth.

    Reality is that Starmer has ensured that the factional right in the Labour Party is absolutely dominant in terms of the NEC officer posts, with the exception of Lucy Powell who they could not prevent from being elected as Deputy Leader. Even if some of them have decided that Starmer has to go, then such is their factionalism that they are not going to try an engineer a drawn out coup that would somehow usher in the favoured candidate of the Socialist Campaign Group, just because he is the candidate most likely to appeal to the general public. They will try a reset with one of their own, which means either getting behind Streeting or, if they think Streeting has no hope of winning a member ballot, they might just compromise a bit and favour someone with broader appeal like say Cooper. But with Burnham flying his left wing manifesto from the rooftops, no way will they facilitate a route for Burnham.

    The final paragraph is a brilliant explanation for he state Labour is in.

    Not policies or values - just the Popular Front For Judea vs The People’s Front for Judea.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,602
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Double negative makes it just 'semitism'.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    edited May 3
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    I suspect a few of us need to google this Emil dude for context
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,144
    The Green leader is not an anti-Semite. He is a muppet.

    Their deputy leader on the other hand, how can anyone justify having him in place?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,819

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Double negative makes it just 'semitism'.
    Sperm donors are "insemitism".
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,819

    My God.

    Did Kemi Badenoch really use footage of Bloody Sunday to hail the awesomeness of the British Army?

    Idiot Kemi! She should have chosen Amritsar!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,441

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Double negative makes it just 'semitism'.
    Sperm donors are "insemitism".
    Semenitism.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,930
    Betting Post

    F1: my incredibly sleepy bet is Leclerc, each way at 6.

    https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2026/05/miami-2026-pre-race.html
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,098
    DavidL said:

    The Norstat poll in the ST today is good news for the Tories, they are forecast to win 16 MSPs, the same as Labour. I think the Tories would bite your hand off for that right now.

    SNP on 57 and the Greens on 11. Greens look a little low to me. The SNP may well have a serious apathy problem but not enough to cause them major problems. Labour on 16 would be not much short of catastrophic. Reform on 19 would be a major change in Scotland.

    Even if Labour and the Tories were 4th and 5th largest parties, I doubt whether it would be enough to make them realise that they would perform better if they actually proposed some positive policies. If they did, it may remove some of the current apathy and they may start challenging the SNP on more than just opposing independence. They haven’t given the voters any reason to oppose independence other than SNP bad.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,256

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,098

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Double negative makes it just 'semitism'.
    Sperm donors are "insemitism".
    Incels are antisementists.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,602
    @MaxPB

    Your latest comment has the potential to get PB into trouble.

    Desist.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,144
    Yes.

    Though I've listened to hardly any politics over the last few weeks I've manged to hear Starmer boast that he took the principled decision not to invade Iran a dozen times. It's all I remember him saying. It's like he was presented with a bone at Crufts and won't let go. Someone told him that there was a poll showing that NOT invading Iran was popular and he grabbed it.........

    Until then I hadn't worked out what it was that I found so unsellable about Starmer. Dull and uninspired yes but not surely a voter repellent like Farage and Badenoch..............

    And there it was staring me in the face. The man's a coward. He lacks the single ingredient a leader needs. The ability to lead. That is something Burnham's got. His past is pretty dire but Manchester is now the fastest growing City in the UK and one of the hottest places to live I believe. So get him in there.

  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,326
    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,272

    My God.

    Did Kemi Badenoch really use footage of Bloody Sunday to hail the awesomeness of the British Army?

    She said it didn't pass her desk.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,579

    @MaxPB

    Your latest comment has the potential to get PB into trouble.

    Desist.

    Understood.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,931
    Burnham would I expect win any by election at present, his net approval rating is far higher than any other politician in the UK at the moment, including Farage and Polanski never mind Starmer. Still no evidence yet though as TSE's header suggests that the NEC has shifted in his favour and if not they will still block him going on the Labour approved parliamentary candidates list
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697

    My God.

    Did Kemi Badenoch really use footage of Bloody Sunday to hail the awesomeness of the British Army?

    Yes.
    I posted the link yesterday just before she took it down.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 3
    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,390
    On Burnham and the NEC:


    Luke Akehurst
    @lukeakehurst
    ·
    49m
    I suspect this story is being briefed out by the same people who briefed journalists earlier this year that they had a 5-4 majority on the NEC Officers' Group then lost the vote 8-1.

    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2050879937268125702
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,390
    On Burnham and the NEC:


    Luke Akehurst
    @lukeakehurst
    ·
    49m
    I suspect this story is being briefed out by the same people who briefed journalists earlier this year that they had a 5-4 majority on the NEC Officers' Group then lost the vote 8-1.

    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2050879937268125702
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,931

    DavidL said:

    The Norstat poll in the ST today is good news for the Tories, they are forecast to win 16 MSPs, the same as Labour. I think the Tories would bite your hand off for that right now.

    SNP on 57 and the Greens on 11. Greens look a little low to me. The SNP may well have a serious apathy problem but not enough to cause them major problems. Labour on 16 would be not much short of catastrophic. Reform on 19 would be a major change in Scotland.

    Also 55/45 for Indy, so perhaps not so good news for the Union.
    Given there is zero chance of Westminster allowing indyref2 if the SNP lose 7 seats as Norstat suggests independence polls would be completely irrelevant anyway. Even Swinney would have completely missed his target of an SNP majority being a mandate for indyref2 so on that basis might not even ask for one
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,441
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    I initially read that as he's only on when he can complain.......
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,326
    edited May 3
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    Funny how he’s suddenly so busy and decides to allegedly campaign in the seat which he’s ignored for the last two years!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,034
    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    They were no doubt embarrassed to encounter a bigoted 60s-something dinosaur pal.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697
    Taz said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
    A quick glance at the face of one of the coppers makes it pretty clear that the cartoonist is just offensively bad at drawing, so it's impossible to infer actual malice.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,634
    Kemi issues an apology for her staffers sticking footage from Bloody Sunday on a post opposing Labour's legacy bill, claiming that the bill would lead to veterans potentially being unjustly held to account for ancient historic misdeeds. So why the apology? If our veterans can do no wrong, and/or should no longer be held to account for any wrongdoing during the Troubles, what's the harm in a Bloody Sunday shot? Her thinking seems a bit muddled to me.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,641
    edited May 3

    My God it is worse.

    1) It's about defending UK veterans from prosecution

    and

    2) She's done a Starmer and blamed her staff.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/02/kemi-badenoch-social-media-posts-bloody-sunday-footage

    I highly doubt it was an oversight. It's straight out of the Trump playbook. Post something inflammatory that will appeal to the Fukker voting Greggsbollah then deny any culpability and blame somebody else. She knows exactly what she's doing.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    No, just noting that he's a classic flat track bully.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,802

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    At last year's Labour conference Keir Starmer framed himself at the man who could defeat Nigel Farage. From what I heard in Washington, the irony is he's actually throwing Nigel Farage a political life-line.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2050856611787280595

    What did Dan Hodges hear in Washington? What is this political lifeline?
    Is Dan even in Washington at all?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    Leon said:


    Am I over-interpreting?

    Yes.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,147
    Taz said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
    It's at least as anti-semitic as other cartoons in UK press that were deemed anti-semitic.
    A hooked nose is definitely an anti-semitic trope.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,272
    edited May 3
    Firstly, I continue to be amazed at this hunt for those practicing antisemitism or islamophobia. It's almost a diversion from the real issues facing the country which we appear either ignorant of or willinging to ignore. But I suppose it passes the time until the reality of our demographics hits home.

    Secondly, I notice that Kemi (or more likely one of her team) is looking at the issue. It's brave raising it just before the elections. Whoever gets elected will have to deal with Adult Social Care without the ability to do anything about it.




  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    Funny how he’s suddenly so busy and decides to allegedly campaign in the seat which he’s ignored for the last two years!
    So many people personally invested in Clacton and it’s representation when prior to July 24 they couldn’t find it on a map 😂
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,802
    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    • Why don't young women love me like they used to?
    • Why don't they smile when I tell them things off the internet like my Twitter friends (who really love me) do?
    • Why don't they listen when I lecture them at parties?
    It's a mystery, I tell you.

  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    Dopermean said:

    Taz said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
    It's at least as anti-semitic as other cartoons in UK press that were deemed anti-semitic.
    A hooked nose is definitely an anti-semitic trope.
    It doesn’t look hooked to me. It just looks like him. If he’s concerned about Anti semitism he needs to improve candidate vetting for his party.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,641
    Battlebus said:

    Firstly, I continue to be amazed at this hunt for those practicing antisemitism

    It's very woke.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697

    Kemi issues an apology for her staffers sticking footage from Bloody Sunday on a post opposing Labour's legacy bill, claiming that the bill would lead to veterans potentially being unjustly held to account for ancient historic misdeeds. So why the apology? If our veterans can do no wrong, and/or should no longer be held to account for any wrongdoing during the Troubles, what's the harm in a Bloody Sunday shot? Her thinking seems a bit muddled to me.

    ..We support our veterans, but the video was done by very young people..

    In context, Badenoch is pretty young herself, being born well after the events. But if she's going to wade in on the issue, she might at least educate herself, and ditto her staffers.

    Is she really claiming that she allows juniors to put out offensive crap under her name without signing off on it ?
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000

    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    They were no doubt embarrassed to encounter a bigoted 60s-something dinosaur pal.
    No. I can give you an example

    One of them was a woke food pundit. She said she’d been writing about how Britain appropriates foreign food and claims it as its own, in a bad way. She wasn’t shouting about it but it was an example of that mild anti-British negativity you get, quite a lot, from woke people

    Her example? Was how Britain stole chicken tikka masala from India. She specifically said “chicken tikka masala”, not just “curry”. I GENTLY pointed out that chicken tikka masala was almost certainly invented in Britain. By a South Asian chef probably in Glasgow

    She refused to believe this until I gave several unimpeachable sources. She then did the perplexed face I mentioned and then said - I quote - “oh well who cares anyway the British can have it” in a slightly peeved voice

    I mean, it’s ridiculously trivial. But they kept saying this stuff and - as I mentioned - I stopped correcting them as it would have soured a properly jolly mood

    A fascinating week
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,326
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    Funny how he’s suddenly so busy and decides to allegedly campaign in the seat which he’s ignored for the last two years!
    So many people personally invested in Clacton and it’s representation when prior to July 24 they couldn’t find it on a map 😂
    It’s a total dump with mostly low information gullible voters . Thats why Farage picked it .
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,802
    Taz said:
    Why do politicians allow replies on their tweets at all? It's always just a pile of nutters being rude and posting gifs.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,201
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    Funny how he’s suddenly so busy and decides to allegedly campaign in the seat which he’s ignored for the last two years!
    So many people personally invested in Clacton and it’s representation when prior to July 24 they couldn’t find it on a map 😂
    It’s a total dump with mostly low information gullible voters . Thats why Farage picked it .
    LOL.

    Sounds perfect for you 😂
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697
    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts...

    That doesn't sound much like you.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    viewcode said:

    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    • Why don't young women love me like they used to?
    • Why don't they smile when I tell them things off the internet like my Twitter friends (who really love me) do?
    • Why don't they listen when I lecture them at parties?
    It's a mystery, I tell you.

    And yet we all had a fantastic time. It was one of the nicest trips I’ve done in ages. On the last night we all got roaring drunk until 3 in the morning in the hotel bar and confessed our worst sins - a couple of them had magnificently polyamorous love lives and were happy to gossip

    Not all kids are incels
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,326
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    I see the chicken Farage dropped out of LK as he was too frightened to answer questions about his dodgy donations.

    So when he’s on people complain and when he isn’t they do 😂
    Funny how he’s suddenly so busy and decides to allegedly campaign in the seat which he’s ignored for the last two years!
    So many people personally invested in Clacton and it’s representation when prior to July 24 they couldn’t find it on a map 😂
    It’s a total dump with mostly low information gullible voters . Thats why Farage picked it .
    LOL.

    Sounds perfect for you 😂
    Very funny !
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    Dopermean said:

    Taz said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
    It's at least as anti-semitic as other cartoons in UK press that were deemed anti-semitic.
    A hooked nose is definitely an anti-semitic trope.
    I agree. I despise Polanski, he’s a fool and a useful idiot for islamism. But you can’t pick and choose where you see anti Semitism and I see it in that cartoon as we’ve seen it in similar cartoons

    And yes the hooked nose is a definite trope
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:
    Why do politicians allow replies on their tweets at all? It's always just a pile of nutters being rude and posting gifs.
    A lot of them don’t allow replies, particularly SLab ones.

  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,880
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:
    Why do politicians allow replies on their tweets at all? It's always just a pile of nutters being rude and posting gifs.
    Doomed whatever they do

    Turn off replies and it's all "too afraid to let the people reply"

    Stay off SM and it creates a void for others to fill.

    Bottom line is that not all our opinions are equally valid, but that's not the spirit of the age.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,641
    Leon said:


    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Malmsey does this stripe of solipsistic preening so much better.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,390
    Battlebus said:

    Firstly, I continue to be amazed at this hunt for those practicing antisemitism or islamophobia. It's almost a diversion from the real issues facing the country which we appear either ignorant of or willinging to ignore. But I suppose it passes the time until the reality of our demographics hits home.

    Secondly, I notice that Kemi (or more likely one of her team) is looking at the issue. It's brave raising it just before the elections. Whoever gets elected will have to deal with Adult Social Care without the ability to do anything about it.




    What has Kemi said on social care?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,477
    Nigelb said:

    Kemi issues an apology for her staffers sticking footage from Bloody Sunday on a post opposing Labour's legacy bill, claiming that the bill would lead to veterans potentially being unjustly held to account for ancient historic misdeeds. So why the apology? If our veterans can do no wrong, and/or should no longer be held to account for any wrongdoing during the Troubles, what's the harm in a Bloody Sunday shot? Her thinking seems a bit muddled to me.

    ..We support our veterans, but the video was done by very young people..

    In context, Badenoch is pretty young herself, being born well after the events. But if she's going to wade in on the issue, she might at least educate herself, and ditto her staffers.

    Is she really claiming that she allows juniors to put out offensive crap under her name without signing off on it ?
    It is very kind if Kemi to regularly remind us how hopeless she is.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,144
    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    Thank goodness you were there to mansplain to these ignorant women the difference between truth and their 'woke nonsense'
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:


    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Malmsey does this stripe of solipsistic preening so much better.
    Presumably this is another obscure character from your favourite TV show “One Foot In The Grave”, which you watch all day in your bungalow

    No matter how much you try, you’re not going to get us to watch it along with you. Give up
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    Roger said:

    Leon said:

    I think I encountered some low level anti-Semitism recently

    Last week I was in Africa with a group of Gen Z/Millennial women. Late 20s to early 40s. They were all pleasant, funny, educated, smart. Nice bunch. We all had a genuinely lovely time

    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Anyway at one point the subject “Manchester” came up and one woman, a mildly proud Manc, mentioned a Mancunian achievement by a Manc guy. He was Jewish so I said, as pure idle chit chat, “yes there’s a big Jewish community in Manchester isn’t there?”

    I had absolutely no agenda. It was small talk over lunch. But her face clouded and she looked pained at the very idea - of a Jewish community in her town, of talking about Jews - and she gave the briefest nod and hurriedly said: “Manchester has lots of people from India, there’s a really big Muslim community, I love the food”

    Am I over-interpreting? It was definitely odd albeit fleeting. It wasn’t overt antisemitism - “I hate Jews” - but it felt like a flicker of negativity, like a brief wish that the Jews weren’t there

    Thank goodness you were there to mansplain to these ignorant women the difference between truth and their 'woke nonsense'
    I know, right? I manfully did my bit for Reality. You gotta start somewhere
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,924
    Leon said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:


    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Malmsey does this stripe of solipsistic preening so much better.
    Presumably this is another obscure character from your favourite TV show “One Foot In The Grave”, which you watch all day in your bungalow

    No matter how much you try, you’re not going to get us to watch it along with you. Give up
    Keep up, even I realised it’s a fellow PBer he’s talking about!
    Solipsistic Preener would make a decent username, though a bit of stiff competition over who deserves it most.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,244

    "Fire are reported at Russia’s Primorsk oil export port in Leningrad region after an overnight drone attack. Regional authorities acknowledged the strike and claimed more than 60 drones were 'shot' down. FIRMS also picked up strong fires."

    https://t.me/noel_reports/45857?single

    Ukraine also hit a couple of oil tankers outside the export terminal at Novorossiysk.

    Just like in the Middle East, the debris from the shot down drones always seems to land on the intended target.
    It's not the more than 60 drones you shoot down you have to worry about. It's the dozen that you miss that cause the damage.

    Ukraine shot down 249 of 268 Russian long-range drones last night. An impressive 93% interception rate. But still 19 drones got through.

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,379
    edited May 3
    Bristol house explosion latest: Two die in 'suspicious' blast - with 'major incident' declared
    A police cordon is in place in a residential area of Bristol after a suspicious explosion killed two people. Police are also investigating at another address.

    https://news.sky.com/story/bristol-house-explosion-latest-two-die-in-suspicious-blast-with-major-incident-declared-13534043

    Not terrorism according to police.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,561

    Bristol house explosion latest: Two die in 'suspicious' blast - with 'major incident' declared
    A police cordon is in place in a residential area of Bristol after a suspicious explosion killed two people. Police are also investigating at another address.

    https://news.sky.com/story/bristol-house-explosion-latest-two-die-in-suspicious-blast-with-major-incident-declared-13534043

    Not terrorism according to police.

    98% probability that someone fiddled with the gas supply to bypass the meter.

    And did it in more than one house.

    This has happened many, many times before.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,244

    Leon said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:


    They were also misinformed on lots of issues. They believed lots of woke nonsense and seemed bewildered when I gently showed them the irrefutable facts. So they couldn’t argue. They just went quiet and frowned in a perplexed way, like when you buy a shiny new object and it simply doesn’t perform as expected. I didn’t do this a lot so as to keep the mood buoyant, I could have corrected them on plenty more occasions

    Malmsey does this stripe of solipsistic preening so much better.
    Presumably this is another obscure character from your favourite TV show “One Foot In The Grave”, which you watch all day in your bungalow

    No matter how much you try, you’re not going to get us to watch it along with you. Give up
    Keep up, even I realised it’s a fellow PBer he’s talking about!
    Solipsistic Preener would make a decent username, though a bit of stiff competition over who deserves it most.
    Ah.

    I had thought your username was an ironic reference to the claimed Unionist Dividend for Scotland beloved of Scottish Unionist politicians. But I see now it is a more literal description. You are the embodiment of a unionist dividend for English posters to PB.com.

    I thank you for your service.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,697
    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Taz said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    My wife's family yesterday - Zack Polanski is a modern day Emil Maurice.

    I think he's a totally dishonest twat but that is just ridiculous.
    Hyperbolic bollocks attached to antisemitism in the UK? Surely not.
    Is this not anti antisemitism?
    Probably, bit like the Times cartoon..



    https://x.com/thatbloodymikey/status/2050503751547469942?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
    Is that anti-semitic? I don't really see it. As facial caricatures go, it seems quite mild to me.

    The premise of the cartoon is thuddingly crass and unfunny - that's what people should be focusing on. "Har har he attacked the police verbally so I'm going to show him attacking them physically har har har."
    No, it’s just fake offence and deflection given his and the greens issue on the subject this week
    It's at least as anti-semitic as other cartoons in UK press that were deemed anti-semitic.
    A hooked nose is definitely an anti-semitic trope.
    I agree. I despise Polanski, he’s a fool and a useful idiot for islamism. But you can’t pick and choose where you see anti Semitism and I see it in that cartoon as we’ve seen it in similar cartoons

    And yes the hooked nose is a definite trope
    I see what you mean, but look through a random selection of Brookes's work.

    He's a bad enough cartoonist for that just to be him doing what he does for many of his subjects. He's very poor at capturing a caricature likeness, as opposed to just making his subjects look a much uglier version of themselves.

    I dislike his work a lot, but I genuinely can't tell if it springs from malice or just lack of talent.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,561
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    Anyone betting on the second round of the Peruvian Presidential election? June 7th.

    The clown show continues. Assuming the candidates who are announced on May 15th are the two leaders of the first round* -

    Roberto Sánchez - hopecasting from the left
    Keiko Fujimori - hopecasting from the right

    Sadly, despite repeated attempts with Old Man Fujimori’s desk**, Liz Truss was ineligible. She would be an improvement over both of them.

    *This is Peru. Anything can happen. In fact funny business in politics is mandatory - so anything *must* happen.
    **Keiko’s father was under indictment, after he presidency. He found a Japanese passport that he’d never applied for (or had a right to) in his desk. So he did the obvious thing anyone would do. Booked a one way flight to Japan. He ended up coming back and getting jailed***
    *** Peru has a special jail for ex-presidents. It’s full.
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