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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750
    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610
    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Reform bounce with MiC

    ➡️ REF UK 30% (+3)
    🌳 CON 21% (+1)
    🌹 LAB 19% (nc)
    🌍 GREEN 12% (nc)
    🔶 LIB DEM 11% (-3)
    ❓OTH 4% (nc)
    🟡 SNP 2% (-1)

    N = 2,003 | 28-30/3| Change w 25/03

    That 3% LibDem to Reform shift is interesting!

    Tories on 20%+ will help in May. As will a 2% lead over Labour - Labour led them by 5% in 2022...
    On those MiC numbers Tory vote is still down 9% on the 30% they got under Boris even in 2022 so plenty of Tory councillors will still be losing their seats to Reform and the LDs sadly. Even if Labour who were on 35% NEV in 2022 lose even more councillors to Reform and the Greens

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_Kingdom_local_elections
    The LibDems are only up 1% against the Tories on 2022.

    Against Reform, it will depend on tactical voting.
    The Tories main threat is Reform in May more than the LDs yes though a few seats in Hampshire and Sussex for example the Tories held against the LDs in 2021 may now fall.

    Without anti Reform tactical voting Tory councillors face a massacre by Reform on the MiC numbers certainly, as do Labour councillors in Leave voting areas
    I'll be voting Conservative in Hampshire in May.
    Norfolk has one Tory vote here. Im hoping for a few fellows to join me .
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,997
    Nigelb said:

    Isn't he fairly close to Charles ?

    “We’re dealing with a President who is a narcissist and a bully… a rebuke of some kind is necessary”

    Broadcaster and journalist David Dimbleby says a US State Visit by King Charles “is a misuse of the King” and the UK is “giving Trump more than he deserves”.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2039102261884764511

    That’s his brother Jonathan.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,429
    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    Even the NYT is trying to explain some of the consequences of this insane war (and to help the MAGA readers they have done it in picture book style): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/29/world/middleeast/iran-war-global-impact-economy-fuel.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XVA.z9_I.L9oI29qqDY1q&smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Including Russia getting richer and Ukraine running short of Patriot missiles.
    It's a mark of US incompetence that they've burned through around three times more Patriots in a month than Ukraine has used in total.
    It's got nothing to do with incompetence and the notion that sainted Ukraine are somehow more effective at employing Patriot than the US is fucking ludicrous.

    Ukraine are quite deliberately kept on short commons when it comes to Patriot because of the immense cost of each launch. The US don't give a fuck and will double and triple tap every incoming with multiple Patriot rounds.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750

    Scott_xP said:

    @davidtwilcock.bsky.social‬

    Starmer announces plans for a new UK/EU summit to push closer economic and security partnership with the bloc, saying Brexit did lasting damage to British economy.

    Starmer is getting his Ode To Joy tattooed cock out to shore up support for the May locals.

    It will absolutely work with people like you.
    Everyone's vote counts.
    People like you, too.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    Looks like the Greens are just running the 6 in constituencies then?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,916
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @davidtwilcock.bsky.social‬

    Starmer announces plans for a new UK/EU summit to push closer economic and security partnership with the bloc, saying Brexit did lasting damage to British economy.

    Starmer is getting his Ode To Joy tattooed cock out to shore up support for the May locals.

    It will absolutely work with people like you.
    Everyone's vote counts.
    People like you, too.
    Worse Depeche Mode cover ever.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750
    Dura_Ace said:

    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    Even the NYT is trying to explain some of the consequences of this insane war (and to help the MAGA readers they have done it in picture book style): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/29/world/middleeast/iran-war-global-impact-economy-fuel.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XVA.z9_I.L9oI29qqDY1q&smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Including Russia getting richer and Ukraine running short of Patriot missiles.
    It's a mark of US incompetence that they've burned through around three times more Patriots in a month than Ukraine has used in total.
    It's got nothing to do with incompetence and the notion that sainted Ukraine are somehow more effective at employing Patriot than the US is fucking ludicrous.

    Ukraine are quite deliberately kept on short commons when it comes to Patriot because of the immense cost of each launch. The US don't give a fuck and will double and triple tap every incoming with multiple Patriot rounds.
    So why are they begging Poland for missiles ?
    They've used two years' production already.

    I'd say that's not great planning.

    "Sainted Ukraine" ... you have your own biases.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,069
    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    There are some stunningly useless and incompetent representatives in Holyrood. And then there is Maggie Chapman. She is in a class of her own.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750
    MelonB said:

    Nigelb said:

    Isn't he fairly close to Charles ?

    “We’re dealing with a President who is a narcissist and a bully… a rebuke of some kind is necessary”

    Broadcaster and journalist David Dimbleby says a US State Visit by King Charles “is a misuse of the King” and the UK is “giving Trump more than he deserves”.

    https://x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/2039102261884764511

    That’s his brother Jonathan.
    Fair.
    I'm not an expert in royal matters.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    Looks like the Greens are just running the 6 in constituencies then?
    That we know of so far, yes. Last time in 2021 they stood in around 11. I think they have the money to fight more, and will easily save their deposit where they stand. There may even be 1 or 2 seats in Glasgow and Edinburgh they could have had a serious tilt at winning had they selected early and campaigned hard, but have opted out of.

    Meanwhile in more candidate shambles, SLab candidate for Glasgow Southside (Sturgeons old seat) has been dropped due to a fraud charge. The Greens have never had a better chance in that seat,my understanding is new boundaries help them there
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767

    Andy_JS said:

    Isn't this just ridiculous?

    "How English-only condolences undid one of Canada's top CEOs"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv1q9gz39do

    That's very Canadian.

    You have to kow-tow to the hyper-sensitive Quebecois to hold the country together.
    Imagine being fired because you didn’t want to do a bilingual obituary, that if done slightly wrong could have massively backfired.

    British Airways really should hire him tomorrow, he oversaw a really good improvement in Air Canada’s product and service.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,153
    DavidL said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    There are some stunningly useless and incompetent representatives in Holyrood. And then there is Maggie Chapman. She is in a class of her own.
    She's not completely useless - she's timed things perfectly to screw Guy Ingerson's life for the next few years now that cushy job at Holyrood has gone.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 474
    edited 1:10PM

    MelonB said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    The problem with his post is in the first paragraph. “The key problem at present” might be energy as a result of the Iran war, but that is not the entirety of the problems with the US relationship.
    The problem is dependency.

    Those who wish to swap a dependency on Washington with a dependency on Brussels have just swapped one problem for another.

    Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

    On energy we need to be able to be self sufficient.

    On defence we need to be able to work independently, with like minded allies, and without a single point of failure . . . Either on this continent or any other.

    Swiss cheese model of risk.
    A key part of the problem is we want to have our cake, eat it and repeat! There's also a real problem of time and a recognition the we have to some degree to swap welfare for guns. There's public don't want it and the left won't have it - TBF neither do the rest. We're kinda f*****!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    edited 1:10PM
    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    Looks like the Greens are just running the 6 in constituencies then?
    That we know of so far, yes. Last time in 2021 they stood in around 11. I think they have the money to fight more, and will easily save their deposit where they stand. There may even be 1 or 2 seats in Glasgow and Edinburgh they could have had a serious tilt at winning had they selected early and campaigned hard, but have opted out of.

    Meanwhile in more candidate shambles, SLab candidate for Glasgow Southside (Sturgeons old seat) has been dropped due to a fraud charge. The Greens have never had a better chance in that seat,my understanding is new boundaries help them there
    Im just thinking it seems unlikely they will be rushing to get papers in between now and 4 pm except in maybe a handful more which will have a knock on effrct to the %s in const. polling
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610
    DavidL said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    There are some stunningly useless and incompetent representatives in Holyrood. And then there is Maggie Chapman. She is in a class of her own.
    The most ridiculous part of this situation is there is currently an unresolved complaint regarding Chapman. So it looks like double standards. She has clearly had her nose being put out of joint by not being ranked first. There's a decent chance they get 2 list seats in NE, but no certainty.

    Proper chip on shoulder politics in full view
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610
    Struggling to keep pace with this now, this time an SNP list candidate is ditched, in the nick of time

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp86v8lze34o
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,845
    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    No, what we do is close them and sell the land to builders to build new towns. Double bubble!
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,429
    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    Post NATO US will just do highly transactional bilateral deals with sufficiently friendly/subservient countries to get what they need in Europe. Papa becomes the new Ramstein, etc.

    SKS would lick Trump's pulsing sphincter (and send Chaz to do the same) to keep them at Mildenhall and Lakenheath.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    Looks like the Greens are just running the 6 in constituencies then?
    That we know of so far, yes. Last time in 2021 they stood in around 11. I think they have the money to fight more, and will easily save their deposit where they stand. There may even be 1 or 2 seats in Glasgow and Edinburgh they could have had a serious tilt at winning had they selected early and campaigned hard, but have opted out of.

    Meanwhile in more candidate shambles, SLab candidate for Glasgow Southside (Sturgeons old seat) has been dropped due to a fraud charge. The Greens have never had a better chance in that seat,my understanding is new boundaries help them there
    Im just thinking it seems unlikely they will be rushing to get papers in between now and 4 pm except in maybe a handful more which will have a knock on effrct to the %s in const. polling
    There will be a few surprised voters on 7th May who may expect the Greens to be standing in more constituencies. No idea where this vote will go - SNP more likely benefactors?

    Meanwhile no word from Reform yet on the 5 or so candidates they are missing
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,758
    Off topic: Today, April 1st, Putin and Trump will announce their upcoming marriage. It will be a traditional marriage in some ways; for example, Trump will promise to obey Putin. The wedding parties still have to be settled, but Kristi Noem is almost certain to be the flower girl.

    The two admit to being inspired by this famous cartoon:
    https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016679213/

    There are, granted, a few legal details to be taken care of, but both bride and groom have shown they are capable of taking care of such details.

    Will children result from this marriage? Quite possibly, given the progress of cloning in recent years.

    (Someone with artistic skill, familiar with the new AI tools, may wish to create a cartoon in anticipation of this upcoming wedding.)
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    edited 1:16PM
    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    Looks like the Greens are just running the 6 in constituencies then?
    That we know of so far, yes. Last time in 2021 they stood in around 11. I think they have the money to fight more, and will easily save their deposit where they stand. There may even be 1 or 2 seats in Glasgow and Edinburgh they could have had a serious tilt at winning had they selected early and campaigned hard, but have opted out of.

    Meanwhile in more candidate shambles, SLab candidate for Glasgow Southside (Sturgeons old seat) has been dropped due to a fraud charge. The Greens have never had a better chance in that seat,my understanding is new boundaries help them there
    Im just thinking it seems unlikely they will be rushing to get papers in between now and 4 pm except in maybe a handful more which will have a knock on effrct to the %s in const. polling
    There will be a few surprised voters on 7th May who may expect the Greens to be standing in more constituencies. No idea where this vote will go - SNP more likely benefactors?

    Meanwhile no word from Reform yet on the 5 or so candidates they are missing
    I wonder if it costs the Greens in the list at the margins too - 'screw you then, i'll vote xxx on purple and peach'
    Even a 1% drop might be critical
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586

    Scott_xP said:

    @davidtwilcock.bsky.social‬

    Starmer announces plans for a new UK/EU summit to push closer economic and security partnership with the bloc, saying Brexit did lasting damage to British economy.

    Starmer is getting his Ode To Joy tattooed cock out to shore up support for the May locals.

    It will absolutely work with people like you.
    It is absolutely going to result in an even bigger drubbing at the hands of Reform.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,433
    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    A happy coincidence that one.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,153
    Dura_Ace said:

    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    Post NATO US will just do highly transactional bilateral deals with sufficiently friendly/subservient countries to get what they need in Europe. Papa becomes the new Ramstein, etc.

    SKS would lick Trump's pulsing sphincter (and send Chaz to do the same) to keep them at Mildenhall and Lakenheath.
    Sound like the perfect location and names for 2 new towns
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081

    Scott_xP said:

    @davidtwilcock.bsky.social‬

    Starmer announces plans for a new UK/EU summit to push closer economic and security partnership with the bloc, saying Brexit did lasting damage to British economy.

    Starmer is getting his Ode To Joy tattooed cock out to shore up support for the May locals.

    It will absolutely work with people like you.
    It is absolutely going to result in an even bigger drubbing at the hands of Reform.
    More Yurp, thars what the drones need. Much more Yurp
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 610
    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    There are some stunningly useless and incompetent representatives in Holyrood. And then there is Maggie Chapman. She is in a class of her own.
    She's not completely useless - she's timed things perfectly to screw Guy Ingerson's life for the next few years now that cushy job at Holyrood has gone.
    On literally the last possible day!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586
    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767
    edited 1:22PM
    Dura_Ace said:

    Nigelb said:

    DavidL said:

    Even the NYT is trying to explain some of the consequences of this insane war (and to help the MAGA readers they have done it in picture book style): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/29/world/middleeast/iran-war-global-impact-economy-fuel.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XVA.z9_I.L9oI29qqDY1q&smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Including Russia getting richer and Ukraine running short of Patriot missiles.
    It's a mark of US incompetence that they've burned through around three times more Patriots in a month than Ukraine has used in total.
    It's got nothing to do with incompetence and the notion that sainted Ukraine are somehow more effective at employing Patriot than the US is fucking ludicrous.

    Ukraine are quite deliberately kept on short commons when it comes to Patriot because of the immense cost of each launch. The US don't give a fuck and will double and triple tap every incoming with multiple Patriot rounds.
    The whole point is that Ukraine has 1000x cheaper solutions than Patriot.

    You know this, but Patriot is there to take out enemy aircraft and large missiles, not cheap drones. Ukraine has nailed a solution for taking out the cheap drones without wasting the expensive missiles - and the GCC countries are all-in on buying that technology in exchange for a few of the scarce Patriots.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497
    scampi25 said:

    MelonB said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    The problem with his post is in the first paragraph. “The key problem at present” might be energy as a result of the Iran war, but that is not the entirety of the problems with the US relationship.
    The problem is dependency.

    Those who wish to swap a dependency on Washington with a dependency on Brussels have just swapped one problem for another.

    Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

    On energy we need to be able to be self sufficient.

    On defence we need to be able to work independently, with like minded allies, and without a single point of failure . . . Either on this continent or any other.

    Swiss cheese model of risk.
    A key part of the problem is we want to have our cake, eat it and repeat! There's also a real problem of time and a recognition the we have to some degree to swap welfare for guns. There's public don't want it and the left won't have it - TBF neither do the rest. We're kinda f*****!
    Whatever the spending requirement it always turns out we can justify the extra spending by suggesting there are still too many libraries in Wolverhampton*.

    * With thanks to Alexei Sayle
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    eek said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    Post NATO US will just do highly transactional bilateral deals with sufficiently friendly/subservient countries to get what they need in Europe. Papa becomes the new Ramstein, etc.

    SKS would lick Trump's pulsing sphincter (and send Chaz to do the same) to keep them at Mildenhall and Lakenheath.
    Sound like the perfect location and names for 2 new towns
    I've been banging on about Mildenhall and Lakenheath for years.

    Massive existing infrastructure in place.

    Fuck the Yanks out.

    One a new Town

    The other a massive high security Supercat new prison


  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    We tell them to fuck off out of the OK

    Others we sell. Preferably not to the US

    Feck the cnut
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,659
    DoctorG said:

    DavidL said:

    DoctorG said:

    Last day for MSP nominations in Scotland

    A late change in the North east list for the Greens, where sitting MSP Maggie Chapman, who was ranked 2nd, replaces Guy Ingerson as lead candidate, after a complaint was filed against Ingerson.

    One of the complainants was .... Maggie Chapman.

    The complaint itself is still unresolved

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glrxrnlywo

    There are some stunningly useless and incompetent representatives in Holyrood. And then there is Maggie Chapman. She is in a class of her own.
    The most ridiculous part of this situation is there is currently an unresolved complaint regarding Chapman. So it looks like double standards. She has clearly had her nose being put out of joint by not being ranked first. There's a decent chance they get 2 list seats in NE, but no certainty.

    Proper chip on shoulder politics in full view
    "Ingerson previously worked for Chapman, and it is understood the pair are not on good terms."

    Crack BBC reporting there. LOL
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,558
    Only two arrests?

    https://x.com/mayoroflondon/status/2039320476783133164

    The appalling scenes in Clapham in recent days are absolutely unacceptable and those responsible will face the full force of the law. Two arrests have been made and the Met is continuing to investigate.

    There will be an increased police presence in the area in the coming days, with officers providing support and reassurance to residents and businesses.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    kenough said:

    stodge said:
    Feels like 18 years after the GFC that zombie companies are finally going to start going bust in significant numbers.
    Interest rates, energy, minimum wage.

    I'm far from being a mad Thatcherite but it needs to happen.
    Will boost productivity in the long run.
    Shit hole

    Never needed

    Better news Towcester could reopen
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,558
    Brixian59 said:

    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    We tell them to fuck off out of the OK

    Others we sell. Preferably not to the US

    Feck the cnut
    Starmer isn’t going to do that. Do you think Ed Miliband is “tough enough”?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,750
    Former spiritual adviser to Trump.

    Disgraced Texas megachurch pastor free after 6 months in jail for sexually abusing 12-year-old girl: 'I am deeply sorry'
    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039161334143521207

    I just want to take this opportunity to point out that there is a man named Henry Walter Wooten, from Smith County, Texas, who is serving 35 YEARS IN PRISON for marijuana possession.
    https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/2039219512000622946

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586

    Only two arrests?

    https://x.com/mayoroflondon/status/2039320476783133164

    The appalling scenes in Clapham in recent days are absolutely unacceptable and those responsible will face the full force of the law. Two arrests have been made and the Met is continuing to investigate.

    There will be an increased police presence in the area in the coming days, with officers providing support and reassurance to residents and businesses.

    Not doing his re-election prospects any good.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,770
    Scott_xP said:

    @davidtwilcock.bsky.social‬

    Starmer announces plans for a new UK/EU summit to push closer economic and security partnership with the bloc, saying Brexit did lasting damage to British economy.

    Smart move from Sir Keir. The plan will be to get Nigel and Kemi all quivering lower lipped about how Brexit is now 'under threat', as if anyone remotely cares. They will then be forced to concede by implication that Trump or inglorious isolation is the alternative, which is precisely what Sir Keir wants them to say.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497

    Brixian59 said:

    Nigelb said:

    If the US does withdraw from NATO, how much do we charge for the use of our bases ?

    The USA is essentially dependent on military bases like Ramstein, Signoella, Aérea de Morón and Rota to ensure that it can effectively pivot it's ground forces, supplies, and launch air operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and in some cases, having more options for deployments in Asia when necessary

    They use these bases to more effectively react to crises, gather intelligence, host logistical hubs that can reach globally across theatres, project power in the face of countries like Russia, China and India, and also to be better prepared to react to crises.

    This is very, very, very basic.

    https://x.com/JulienHoez/status/2039222964298629192

    We tell them to fuck off out of the OK

    Others we sell. Preferably not to the US

    Feck the cnut
    Starmer isn’t going to do that. Do you think Ed Miliband is “tough enough”?
    If the US jettison NATO why would they need Mildenhall, Lakenheath and Fairford? Likewise Rammstein.

    It would be sad because Five Guys at Barton Mills would close. But sometimes sacrifices have to be made.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 23,020

    Only two arrests?

    https://x.com/mayoroflondon/status/2039320476783133164

    The appalling scenes in Clapham in recent days are absolutely unacceptable and those responsible will face the full force of the law. Two arrests have been made and the Met is continuing to investigate.

    There will be an increased police presence in the area in the coming days, with officers providing support and reassurance to residents and businesses.

    Current police tactics seem to be to concentrate on dispersal at the time and then use CCTV to identify people to round up over the days and weeks following.

    In that sort of situation you might think that making more arrests at the time would do more to deter a repeat.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,146

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 641
    Occurs to me that the anniversary of the Falklands war is tomorrow and given what's going on with Trump/Starmer/NATO would be an opportune time for Milei to make his move.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,659
    Apols if this has already been covered.

    "Three Reform candidates quit in one Welsh constituency"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje47941j4qo

    TBH, until I saw it was posted yesterday I imagined it was an April fool.

    "A Reform source confirmed that Derek Roberts, who was the party's second on the list in Pen-y-Bont Bro Morgannwg, has stood down for "personal reasons" that have not been made public.

    "The party's sixth candidate, Owain Clatworthy, has left in protest at the selection process. Both decisions emerged after Corey Edwards, the first candidate on the list, stood down last week after a photo appeared to show him performing a Nazi salute."

    Looks like there is a competition between Reform Scotland and Reform Wales as to who has the most bonkers candidates. Scotland possibly just ahead, at the moment? Come on, you Welsh!
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 23,020
    PaulM said:

    Occurs to me that the anniversary of the Falklands war is tomorrow and given what's going on with Trump/Starmer/NATO would be an opportune time for Milei to make his move.

    They have recently acquired some F-16s, but generally I think the Argentine armed forces are in relatively much worse state than the British compared to 1982.

    I don't think even Dura could foresee a failure of the British garrison to defend against an attempted Argentine invasion.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    PaulM said:

    Occurs to me that the anniversary of the Falklands war is tomorrow and given what's going on with Trump/Starmer/NATO would be an opportune time for Milei to make his move.

    I think we would already know from naval movements. Theres a few hundred army plus RAF based in the Falklands now and a couple hundred Falklands reserves, its not like 1982 when they could invade with a few soldiers
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767

    Apols if this has already been covered.

    "Three Reform candidates quit in one Welsh constituency"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje47941j4qo

    TBH, until I saw it was posted yesterday I imagined it was an April fool.

    "A Reform source confirmed that Derek Roberts, who was the party's second on the list in Pen-y-Bont Bro Morgannwg, has stood down for "personal reasons" that have not been made public.

    "The party's sixth candidate, Owain Clatworthy, has left in protest at the selection process. Both decisions emerged after Corey Edwards, the first candidate on the list, stood down last week after a photo appeared to show him performing a Nazi salute."

    Looks like there is a competition between Reform Scotland and Reform Wales as to who has the most bonkers candidates. Scotland possibly just ahead, at the moment? Come on, you Welsh!

    Reform and Green candidates are going to get massively exposed in the next couple of weeks. Neither party has the resources required to properly vet MP candidates, let alone council candidates.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828

    PaulM said:

    Occurs to me that the anniversary of the Falklands war is tomorrow and given what's going on with Trump/Starmer/NATO would be an opportune time for Milei to make his move.

    I think we would already know from naval movements. Theres a few hundred army plus RAF based in the Falklands now and a couple hundred Falklands reserves, its not like 1982 when they could invade with a few soldiers
    Yes

    Starmer far more prepared than Thatcher was.

    Although she ignored warnings.

    Almost as if she needed a war.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,199
    PaulM said:

    Occurs to me that the anniversary of the Falklands war is tomorrow and given what's going on with Trump/Starmer/NATO would be an opportune time for Milei to make his move.

    Milei has made clear he only wants a diplomatic solution to the Falklands issue, otherwise he is far too busy reforming the Argentina economy and slimming the Argentine state

    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/colby-cosh-javier-mileis-careful-game-of-diplomacy-101-falklands-edition
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,558
    edited 1:51PM
    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,433

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,770

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Though not particularly surprising.
    Seats not percentage btw.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Result being unpalatable (to me anyway) aside, thars a proper rainbow council
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Who are the independents, and do they have a campaign?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586
    edited 1:56PM

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,199
    Taz said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
    Which will be even worse for Birmingham
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,697
    Sorry to ask, but has Scott Mills been convicted of anything?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
    Which will be even worse for Birmingham
    Mahmood and Phillips are frankly toast at next GE to Pro Gaza or Galloway
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    Sandpit said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Who are the independents, and do they have a campaign?
    Its a conglomeration of Akhmed Yakoob from the W Mids mayoralty, Galloway and some others under a broad umbrella
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,770
    Sandpit said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Who are the independents, and do they have a campaign?
    Here's your answer.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/independents-join-forces-electoral-pact-33644265

    Gaza, Kashmir and Galloway.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,199
    edited 2:02PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Sorry to ask, but has Scott Mills been convicted of anything?

    No but you only need balance of probabilities to sack someone not beyond reasonable doubt
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,395

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:


    Gregg Carlstrom
    @glcarlstrom

    In our latest @TheEconomist/@YouGovAmerica poll, signs that even Republicans are starting to sour on the Iran war. Compared to two weeks ago:

    - support for the war has fallen from 73% of Republicans to 62%;

    - approval of how Trump is handling the war has dropped from 81% of Republicans to 68%;

    https://x.com/glcarlstrom/status/2039293958421934582

    79% of MAGA identifying Republicans still back the war with Iran though and by a +14% margin MAGA Republicans even back sending in ground troops to Iran. Though Trump seems to be trying to bring the conflict to an end in the next few weeks
    Perhaps even Trump has realised he’s not going to win purely on the votes of MAGA Republicans.
    He doesn't need to win again, he is term limited. In historical terms what is going to give Trump a real legacy? Removing the Iranian regime and restoring the son of the Shah. Will historians in decades to come care about this year's midterms or that Vance might have scraped a win in 2028 in terms of Trump's legacy? No. They will assess what happened in Iran though
    Then Trump’s legacy is f***ed!
    Yes, he needs to change course and get serious about regime change. Stop dicking about.

    Being serious has never been his strong point.
    Trump has always taken self-enrichment and self-aggrandisement very seriously.

    He simply doesn't care about the things you care about and he isn't going to start doing so.

    Regime change in Iran would be too much effort for too little personal reward for Trump to commit to. You should never have allowed yourself to be fooled into supporting something because it looked a little like what you wanted to happen, when it was never going to be what you wanted to happen.
    I was never fooled into supporting anything, I said from the start I thought Trump would TACO without regime change.

    I said from the start I thought there should be boots on the ground.

    The only thing that is a surprise is the TACO is taking so long.

    I have no respect for Trump and never have. Nothing that has happened has changed any of my views.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,203
    edited 2:01PM

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Bombe platform isn't a member of the British Polling Council.

    I might pass a PB ruling prohibiting their use on PB.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767
    Andy_JS said:

    Sorry to ask, but has Scott Mills been convicted of anything?

    Lying to his employer.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
    Which will be even worse for Birmingham
    Mahmood and Phillips are frankly toast at next GE to Pro Gaza or Galloway
    The state of Lab Con in Brum shows the changing face of UK politics more than anywhere.

    For decades a Tory / Lab flip flop, long spells of either.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,760

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Bombe platform isn't a member of the British Polling Council.

    I might pass a PB ruling prohibiting their use on PB.
    A Thinwa?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 23,020

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,770
    Brixian59 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
    Which will be even worse for Birmingham
    Mahmood and Phillips are frankly toast at next GE to Pro Gaza or Galloway
    Assuming three years of running the City Council has no electoral impact whatsoever.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,767
    dixiedean said:

    Sandpit said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Who are the independents, and do they have a campaign?
    Here's your answer.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/independents-join-forces-electoral-pact-33644265

    Gaza, Kashmir and Galloway.
    Oh dear…
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,828
    Taz said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Pro Gaza alliance to run Brum.
    As long as they don't inter ferr with Sports Quarter I don't give a feck tbh.

    Ideally Lab hold off GE to 29,SQ will be beyond recall by then.

    Every Blue nose in Brum owes Labour and particularly Mahmood a massive vote of thanks though.

    She did as much to out and oust last regime as El Mayor Dan Ivery
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,395
    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:


    Gregg Carlstrom
    @glcarlstrom

    In our latest @TheEconomist/@YouGovAmerica poll, signs that even Republicans are starting to sour on the Iran war. Compared to two weeks ago:

    - support for the war has fallen from 73% of Republicans to 62%;

    - approval of how Trump is handling the war has dropped from 81% of Republicans to 68%;

    https://x.com/glcarlstrom/status/2039293958421934582

    79% of MAGA identifying Republicans still back the war with Iran though and by a +14% margin MAGA Republicans even back sending in ground troops to Iran. Though Trump seems to be trying to bring the conflict to an end in the next few weeks
    Perhaps even Trump has realised he’s not going to win purely on the votes of MAGA Republicans.
    He doesn't need to win again, he is term limited. In historical terms what is going to give Trump a real legacy? Removing the Iranian regime and restoring the son of the Shah. Will historians in decades to come care about this year's midterms or that Vance might have scraped a win in 2028 in terms of Trump's legacy? No. They will assess what happened in Iran though
    Then Trump’s legacy is f***ed!
    Yes, he needs to change course and get serious about regime change. Stop dicking about.

    Being serious has never been his strong point.
    Trump has always taken self-enrichment and self-aggrandisement very seriously.

    He simply doesn't care about the things you care about and he isn't going to start doing so.

    Regime change in Iran would be too much effort for too little personal reward for Trump to commit to. You should never have allowed yourself to be fooled into supporting something because it looked a little like what you wanted to happen, when it was never going to be what you wanted to happen.
    There is no alternative President who would have pursued the kind of action for regime change that Barty is advocating.
    He's indulging in neocon fantasy.
    George W Bush did. :smile:

    He was the last neocon President. Would much prefer a return to neocon politics like Bush than this self aggrandising, corrupt, insular, abusive and bigotted politics of Trump.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,770

    Only two arrests?

    https://x.com/mayoroflondon/status/2039320476783133164

    The appalling scenes in Clapham in recent days are absolutely unacceptable and those responsible will face the full force of the law. Two arrests have been made and the Met is continuing to investigate.

    There will be an increased police presence in the area in the coming days, with officers providing support and reassurance to residents and businesses.

    Bit of an overreaction from Sadiq. It was hardly the LA riots - just a bit of high jinks from children at the beginning of their school hols. In a different era it would have been seen as in the spirit of the Swallows and Amazons. Anyway, I prefer to see children out and about, breathing God's fresh air, rather than stuck at home glued to their phones and drowning in social media. But maybe I'm just old fashioned.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,748
    Nigelb said:

    Are we underestimating Harris's chances of getting the nomination ?

    Nancy Pelosi credits Kamala Harris for saving the Democratic Party

    “She ran a great campaign. She turned out so many more people than who would have voted….she doesn’t deserve enough credit…we would have probably lost 14 (House) seats…if she had not been the candidate.”

    https://x.com/AnneSmi34268702/status/2038975049361703077

    No.

    The Dems are not going to nominate someone who (a) crashed and burned the last time she was in a competitive Presidential primary (not even making it to Iowa), (b) who lost to DJT, and (c) was connected to (and defended) Sleepy Joe.

    The Dems want a changing of the guard. And I suspect, for what it's worth, that also means no Gavin Newsom.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,825

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,770

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    I'm expecting Labour to spectacularly undershoot the direst predictions.
    There's just too many free hit options.
    Quite aside from not bothering.
    Would be surprised if NEV hits 15 tbh.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    At least the bins will be collected.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,626

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Reform bounce with MiC

    ➡️ REF UK 30% (+3)
    🌳 CON 21% (+1)
    🌹 LAB 19% (nc)
    🌍 GREEN 12% (nc)
    🔶 LIB DEM 11% (-3)
    ❓OTH 4% (nc)
    🟡 SNP 2% (-1)

    N = 2,003 | 28-30/3| Change w 25/03

    That 3% LibDem to Reform shift is interesting!

    Tories on 20%+ will help in May. As will a 2% lead over Labour - Labour led them by 5% in 2022...
    On those MiC numbers Tory vote is still down 9% on the 30% they got under Boris even in 2022 so plenty of Tory councillors will still be losing their seats to Reform and the LDs sadly. Even if Labour who were on 35% NEV in 2022 lose even more councillors to Reform and the Greens

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_Kingdom_local_elections
    The LibDems are only up 1% against the Tories on 2022.

    Against Reform, it will depend on tactical voting.
    The Tories main threat is Reform in May more than the LDs yes though a few seats in Hampshire and Sussex for example the Tories held against the LDs in 2021 may now fall.

    Without anti Reform tactical voting Tory councillors face a massacre by Reform on the MiC numbers certainly, as do Labour councillors in Leave voting areas
    I'll be voting Conservative in Hampshire in May.

    Remember, a Conservative vote is a wasted vote! ;)
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    It is nice that we have the Greens and some religious independents to take up the slack rather than the Farangists.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,395

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    It is nice that we have the Greens and some religious independents to take up the slack rather than the Farangists.
    Gaza independents are even worse than Farage, which is utterly depressing.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,153

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    It is nice that we have the Greens and some religious independents to take up the slack rather than the Farangists.
    You have a peculiar definition of 'nice'!
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 23,020

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
    The US is paying companies not to install wind turbines now. The appropriate response is to point and laugh. Condemnation would be a waste of effort.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    It is nice that we have the Greens and some religious independents to take up the slack rather than the Farangists.
    Gaza independents are even worse than Farage, which is utterly depressing.
    I am all for an independent Gaza.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,748

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Right now, the higher ther proportion of renewables in your electricity generation mix (Spain, Portugal, Switzerland and Norway being the top), the lower the electricity price.

    Now that's not always going to be the case, but -at the same time- if the Straits of Hormuz remain closed to LNG traffic for a sustained period of time, you are really, really, really going to want non-hydrocarbon generation in the mix. (There is no chance of meaningful quantities of new UK natural gas coming on stream on five year view. Nor is HPC likely to go live on that time horizon.)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,153

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    I'm expecting something similar in Bradford.
    It is nice that we have the Greens and some religious independents to take up the slack rather than the Farangists.
    Gaza independents are even worse than Farage, which is utterly depressing.
    I am all for an independent Gaza.
    I have no strong views on what political shape the ME should be. But I don't want it being the primary focus of my local council. (Or indeed central government).
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,997

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
    The US is paying companies not to install wind turbines now. The appropriate response is to point and laugh. Condemnation would be a waste of effort.
    India is the dirtiest of the three by far, and deserves the condemnation for this as well as its sucking up to Russia. Thankfully we have the CBAM to level the playing field on any imports from polluters like India.

    China on the other hand is taking a rather different path. They are not far off equalling our energy mix, already. I expect the Iran war will further accelerate the transition.

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/china-briefing-5-february-2026-clean-energys-share-of-economy-record-renewables-thawing-relations-with-uk/
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,586

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
    The US is paying companies not to install wind turbines now. The appropriate response is to point and laugh. Condemnation would be a waste of effort.
    That is equally stupid. Let renewables compete on equal terms. That's what China does, and that's why it's now the leader in renewables that the likes of NigelB coo over. It got there (and continues to get there) by burning the cheapest fuel possible. We on the other hand no longer have industries making anything.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,497
    Did you know that if you type political.betting.vanilla into "what.three.words" you will find yourself in Inuvik, in the Northwest Territories of Canada?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,748

    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    One for Robert @rcs1000 when he wakes up.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2039294972973957455

    What does self-driving insurance look like in actuality, and can you you adjust premiums based on users primarily using self-driving software?

    Isn't the crucial metric "number of journeys" instead of "number of miles travelled"?
    Two points:
    1. Lemonade are only in a few states
    2. Lemonade's 50% off for FSD discount reported to cost more than the non-discounted for FSD rate offered by anyone else...
    As an aside, Tesla's insurance business has not been a great success. Their loss ratio is above 90%.

    Ours in about 55%.

    So we make 4.5x as many dollars of gross profit from each dollar of insurance sold as they do. (Actually, I suspect if you include things like payment processing costs, it may be more like 8-10x.)
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,997

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
    The US is paying companies not to install wind turbines now. The appropriate response is to point and laugh. Condemnation would be a waste of effort.
    That is equally stupid. Let renewables compete on equal terms. That's what China does, and that's why it's now the leader in renewables that the likes of NigelB coo over. It got there (and continues to get there) by burning the cheapest fuel possible. We on the other hand no longer have industries making anything.
    China has subsidised renewable investment to a huge degree. In fact they started scaling back subsidies last year and it was big news:

    https://www.power-technology.com/news/china-renewable-energy-subsidies/?cf-view
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,748

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Not much better for Conservatives (vote down 55%) or the LibDems (down a third) either.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,867

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Result being unpalatable (to me anyway) aside, thars a proper rainbow council
    That looks like Belfast City Council on steroids.

    Hamas/Sinn Fein the biggest party, Reform/DUP the opposition.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,203
    Sean_F said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Result being unpalatable (to me anyway) aside, thars a proper rainbow council
    That looks like Belfast City Council on steroids.

    Hamas/Sinn Fein the biggest party, Reform/DUP the opposition.
    The Chuckle Brothers made it work.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,062

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Bombe platform isn't a member of the British Polling Council.

    I might pass a PB ruling prohibiting their use on PB.
    Given the failure to empty the bins (though the problem seems, from this distance, to be one of those that will be near-impossible to resolve)...

    ... It's not surprising that Labour are bombing there.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,748

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Renewables costs upfront in solar panels, wind turbines and batteries etc, but from then on the electricity is free. Infrastructure to get and then burn fossil fuels also has upfront costs and continuing running costs. Moving towards renewables and electrification is a good investment and also a move towards energy independence.
    If the Government were buying and running turbines and panels, these points might be relevant, but it isn't, so they're not. The UK's wind and solar installations are built via auctions where the Government guarantees a minimum price - without those guarantees at a sufficient level, companies don't build them. And as companies know the Government must meet self-imposed renewables targets, they simply refuse to bid until the price rises to their liking. We keep hearing about how cheap solar panels are now - but the solar strike price has *risen* in recent years. So someone might be benefitting from the cheapness of solar but it isn't us.
    The reason the strike prices have increased is precisely because money has to be borrowed to pay for renewables in advance, compared to fossil fuels where most of the costs are for the fuel later, as money is being earned from energy generated.

    Since interest rates went up from their post-financial crash lows, this makes the cost of borrowing to install renewables more expensive.

    Perhaps there are better ways for government to encourage the investment in renewables that would avoid some of this increase in cost, but it's no mystery why it has happened.

    The banks have been making big profits recently, though, yes.
    They shouldn't be 'encouraging investment' in it because it attracts investors like flies round shit, just like University Accommodation, because the tax payer is the ultimate guarantor, so the investment is a sure thing.

    If this 'Britain is leading by example' thing were remotely true, there would be a huge campaign from our side to condemn those who continue to warm the planet - we would be screaming at China, India and the US, boycotting their wares, running high profile campaigns against them. The fact that we're actually flattering, appeasing, and importing from these dirty fuel countries indicates that 'setting an example' is a total sham.
    The US is paying companies not to install wind turbines now. The appropriate response is to point and laugh. Condemnation would be a waste of effort.
    That is equally stupid. Let renewables compete on equal terms. That's what China does, and that's why it's now the leader in renewables that the likes of NigelB coo over. It got there (and continues to get there) by burning the cheapest fuel possible. We on the other hand no longer have industries making anything.
    Subsidies come in all shapes and sizes. Those utterly massive* solar farms in the Himalayas they're buillding right now... well, they're being built with private money, but the connections to the grid weren't.

    * I want to put the scale of some of these projects into perspective for a second. The Talatan/Gonghe cluster in Qinghai (just one project!) covers 160 square miles (i.e. the size of Chicago). When it is complete, it will produce 102GW of power at peak... That's about twice total UK peak electricity usage.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,081
    rcs1000 said:

    Apocalyptic for Labour

    https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2039067800958861792

    POLL | Labour to lose Birmingham Council

    ⚪️ Ind: 31 (+31)
    🟢 Grn: 22 (+20)
    ➡️ Ref: 19 (+19)
    🔴 Lab: 11 (-54)
    🔵 Con: 10 (-12)
    🟠 Lib: 8 (-4)

    Source:
    @Bombeplatform
    , Mar '26 (+/- vs 2022)

    Not much better for Conservatives (vote down 55%) or the LibDems (down a third) either.
    Its seats not vote %s
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,850
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Ed Conway
    @EdConwaySky

    The problem with casting a closer relationship with Europe as the solution to the world's current economic malaise is that it kind of misses the point.
    The key problem at present is a shortage of ENERGY.
    Europe has an energy deficit.
    Up until 2022 it filled that gap with gas from Russia.
    Now it fills that gap with gas (and oil) from the US and Middle East.
    It swapped one dependency for another.
    We can debate whether that dependency is inevitable, the extent to which it's a function of geology and/or political decisions taken years ago.
    Regardless, right now Europe is highly exposed to the problems in the Gulf. And without US energy imports it is in BIG trouble.
    A closer relationship between the UK and the EU does not solve this conundrum.

    https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2039301881613218107

    I think renewables as a share of energy production in Europe is up 6 percentage points between 2022 and 2025. That’s the other side of this equation. If Europe, including the UK, can keep pushing that number up, and accelerate the increase, then we solve the problem. Big international cooperative projects, like the one to support offshore wind power in the North Sea, are part of that and are helped by that closer relationships between the UK and EU. The unreliable nature of much renewable power is also helped by pan-European cooperation.
    Bollocks. Doing that only bakes in higher energy costs. There is no country with a high level of penetration of wind and solar in its energy mix that does not have higher than average energy costs. If I'm lying, find one.

    Spain is 60% renewables, and has some of the lowest prices in the EU.

    I'm curious what your alternative would be for Europe ?
    The lowest prices 'in the EU'. I really don't care what Europe does, I just don't want us to be pulled down with them.
    Right now, the higher ther proportion of renewables in your electricity generation mix (Spain, Portugal, Switzerland and Norway being the top), the lower the electricity price.

    Now that's not always going to be the case, but -at the same time- if the Straits of Hormuz remain closed to LNG traffic for a sustained period of time, you are really, really, really going to want non-hydrocarbon generation in the mix. (There is no chance of meaningful quantities of new UK natural gas coming on stream on five year view. Nor is HPC likely to go live on that time horizon.)
    Now with a nice chart:


    How are Spain pulling that off?
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