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Why it could all go mammary glands up for Zack Polanski – politicalbetting.com

This poll brings good and bad news for the Greens, what I find the most interesting is that 33% of voters would consider voting for the Greens but that falls to 16% when the voters find out about Zack Polanski past comments about breast enlargement via hypnosis.

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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    edited 7:55AM
    Time to make a clean breast of it.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,660
    edited 7:57AM
    2nd
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,909
    Typical leading poll question though. You get similar effects when people are asked if they’d vote Reform after being told about the latest racism revelation.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494
    edited 7:59AM

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sean_F said:

    Re Hormuz, there was talk, some days ago, of the USA acting as underwriter, to insure oil tankers, which I would have considered essential. Did anything come of it?

    Of course not - Trump always chickens out and they couldn’t afford the billions per ship it would cost.
    He’s yet to chicken out of the Iran conflict, in spite of the cost.
    I find the centrist dads are getting ahead of themselves in proclaiming Trump is beaten.
    "If Trump invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons!"
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746
    Zack doesn't have a tits problem.

    He has a twat problem.

    Himself.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,574
    MelonB said:

    Typical leading poll question though. You get similar effects when people are asked if they’d vote Reform after being told about the latest racism revelation.

    Indeed. There’s a parallel with the Farage cameo videos, in that both of them were doing it for money and in both cases the inappropriate suggestions came from prospective customers, rather than being touted by the future politician himself.

    The question is how salient such facts will be come the election. I doubt, very much, in either case.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,681
    Foxy said:

    No wonder the Greens poll well in Bristol.

    Jane Leeves (Daphne in Frasier) and an English female friend set up a production company in LA called Bristol Cities, to funnily feminise it

    She says that they got loads of enquiries, because the name sounded so “sophisticated”!
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 445
    MelonB said:

    Typical leading poll question though. You get similar effects when people are asked if they’d vote Reform after being told about the latest racism revelation.

    Maybe you've s vested interest given your name!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    Just to reassure Alanbrooke, FPT, that they have contingency plans for an extended war.

    Hassett: If the war were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the U.S. economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers, but that's really the last of our concerns right now.
    https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/2033911332278288617
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,323
    Nigelb said:

    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates

    It will probably stay close to the 100 dollar a barrel mark until Trump orders the marines to take Kharg island .

    Although according to some of the Trump lickspittles in Congress this won’t count as boots on the ground !

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates

    It will probably stay close to the 100 dollar a barrel mark until Trump orders the marines to take Kharg island .

    Although according to some of the Trump lickspittles in Congress this won’t count as boots on the ground !

    Why will taking Kharg island make a difference to the price ?
    (Other than sending it higher.)
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,885
    One of the curious things about human minds. Not only can we all be manipulated by charismatic chancers, we often don't particularly mind a charismatic chancer saying to us "I'm a charismatic chancer, and I'm about to manipulate you."

    In that sense, Polanski is just a mirror image of Farage, just peddling a different pile of tosh.

    Today's pile of tosh will be a Green Party leader... (Neil Kinnock voice) a Green Party leader arguing for energy bill subsidies, rather than insulation and decarbonisation as a response to the Gulf crisis.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,522
    How does taking Kharg island help matters? Tankers still have to go through the straits of Hormuz
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,660
    An excellent political nerd video from Canada.

    The story of Louis Riel, who founded Manitoba, and won 3 byelections whilst being hunted down as a murder suspect.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDcbLfEhl1g

    (There's more to it.)
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,885
    Nigelb said:

    On topic, you can fool people quite a few times before they catch on.

    Reporter: If you could say something to Trump, what would it be?

    PA voter: You’re a worthless pile of sh*t.

    Reporter: How many times did you vote for him?

    PA voter: 3 times. That was my bad. Apparently I’m an idiot.

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2034034303613509891

    That voter is smart and self-aware. We could do with more like them.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    An alternate idea might be something along these lines.
    France had a production line for nuclear power stations, back in 1981.

    Les ateliers de construction Framatome des cuves du Creusot au cœur de la période « faste » du programme #nucléaire français. Pour avoir une idée de son ampleur : En 1981, 26 réacteurs sont en cours de construction à différents stades d’avancement.
    https://x.com/Mangeon4/status/1632627857837924352
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,323
    Nigelb said:

    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates

    It will probably stay close to the 100 dollar a barrel mark until Trump orders the marines to take Kharg island .

    Although according to some of the Trump lickspittles in Congress this won’t count as boots on the ground !

    Why will taking Kharg island make a difference to the price ?
    (Other than sending it higher.)
    Yes it will go higher at that point . So we best enjoy the halcyon days of 100 dollars a barrel !
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,102
    edited 8:24AM
    Nigelb said:

    Just to reassure Alanbrooke, FPT, that they have contingency plans for an extended war.

    Hassett: If the war were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the U.S. economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers, but that's really the last of our concerns right now.
    https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/2033911332278288617

    ‘Hey consumers, fuck you’ a strong message for the mid terms.

    Justin Webb playing nice with some Trump sock puppet just now.

    ‘The Iran operation is going very, VERY well’.

    And challenge came there none.

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,708
    Morning all.
    I can make my moobs bigger with just choccy biccies, can I lead a party?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, you can fool people quite a few times before they catch on.

    Reporter: If you could say something to Trump, what would it be?

    PA voter: You’re a worthless pile of sh*t.

    Reporter: How many times did you vote for him?

    PA voter: 3 times. That was my bad. Apparently I’m an idiot.

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2034034303613509891

    That voter is smart and self-aware. We could do with more like them.
    He helped elect Trump twice.
    He's not that smart; though I'll grant he deserves credit for finally catching on.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,415
    IanB2 said:

    MelonB said:

    Typical leading poll question though. You get similar effects when people are asked if they’d vote Reform after being told about the latest racism revelation.

    Indeed. There’s a parallel with the Farage cameo videos, in that both of them were doing it for money and in both cases the inappropriate suggestions came from prospective customers, rather than being touted by the future politician himself.

    The question is how salient such facts will be come the election. I doubt, very much, in either case.
    Most things don't matter, and especially not this. Except that some things do matter to small groups, hence micro-targeted social media messaging from the 2010s, dog whistles from the 20th Century and pulpit guidance from time immemorial.

    LOL. I've just noticed my ‘thought for the day’ is from Balfour: Nothing matters very much, and most things don't matter at all.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264

    Nigelb said:

    An alternate idea might be something along these lines.
    France had a production line for nuclear power stations, back in 1981.

    Les ateliers de construction Framatome des cuves du Creusot au cœur de la période « faste » du programme #nucléaire français. Pour avoir une idée de son ampleur : En 1981, 26 réacteurs sont en cours de construction à différents stades d’avancement.
    https://x.com/Mangeon4/status/1632627857837924352

    I love the French when it comes to the location of the Chooz nuclear power plant.


    This suggests a plan to retake Calais..
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,534
    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,574
    Dopermean said:

    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?

    What exactly is the purpose in asking questions the interviewee almost always already agrees with, anyway?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,922
    Nigelb said:

    Just to reassure Alanbrooke, FPT, that they have contingency plans for an extended war.

    Hassett: If the war were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the U.S. economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers, but that's really the last of our concerns right now.
    https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/2033911332278288617

    At the risk of simply stating the obvious Hassett is a complete moron. The idea that the US will not suffer economically should oil remain north of $100 a barrel because they produce oil themselves is absurd. It is not just a question of hurting consumers, it is a question of collapsing demand, falling investment and horrendous logistical difficulties destroying international trade.

    The Anne Applebaum article linked to on the last thread is far too gentle in its analysis. Trump and his administration are a real and current threat to world stability, peace and the economy. November can't come soon enough but even then we will have to wait until January with the absurd American system. The damage by then may be irrecoverable.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,102
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    On topic, you can fool people quite a few times before they catch on.

    Reporter: If you could say something to Trump, what would it be?

    PA voter: You’re a worthless pile of sh*t.

    Reporter: How many times did you vote for him?

    PA voter: 3 times. That was my bad. Apparently I’m an idiot.

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2034034303613509891

    That voter is smart and self-aware. We could do with more like them.
    He helped elect Trump twice.
    He's not that smart; though I'll grant he deserves credit for finally catching on.
    He was a she I think.
    I wonder if there’s any gender split on the willingness of voters to admit their mistakes. Not my personal experience it has to be said.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,970
    edited 8:38AM
    If I've understood Green policies aright, there's an obvious way for them to defuse this issue. If breasts can be enlarged by hypnosis, then it's a drug-free way for gender dysphoric (e) males to alter their body shape. Has to be worth a try.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,885
    DavidL said:

    Nigelb said:

    Just to reassure Alanbrooke, FPT, that they have contingency plans for an extended war.

    Hassett: If the war were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the U.S. economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers, but that's really the last of our concerns right now.
    https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/2033911332278288617

    At the risk of simply stating the obvious Hassett is a complete moron. The idea that the US will not suffer economically should oil remain north of $100 a barrel because they produce oil themselves is absurd. It is not just a question of hurting consumers, it is a question of collapsing demand, falling investment and horrendous logistical difficulties destroying international trade.

    The Anne Applebaum article linked to on the last thread is far too gentle in its analysis. Trump and his administration are a real and current threat to world stability, peace and the economy. November can't come soon enough but even then we will have to wait until January with the absurd American system. The damage by then may be irrecoverable.
    Trump's cabinet could stop this today.

    Congress could stop this in pretty short order.

    All they need is some spines, and that's the problem.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,294

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sean_F said:

    Re Hormuz, there was talk, some days ago, of the USA acting as underwriter, to insure oil tankers, which I would have considered essential. Did anything come of it?

    Of course not - Trump always chickens out and they couldn’t afford the billions per ship it would cost.
    He’s yet to chicken out of the Iran conflict, in spite of the cost.
    I find the centrist dads are getting ahead of themselves in proclaiming Trump is beaten.
    "If Trump invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons!"
    There are those whose antipathy to Starmer and his Government is so strong anyone who stands up and has a pop at the Prime Minister or the Chancellor is automatically lauded as being right and worthy of support.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,323
    The GOP often name legislation with names that suggest it’s all warm and cuddly .

    The so called SAVE act for elections is essentially a voter suppression and federal takeover of elections . Trumps now pushing an amendment to ban no excuse mail in voting .

  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,721
    DavidL said:

    Nigelb said:

    Just to reassure Alanbrooke, FPT, that they have contingency plans for an extended war.

    Hassett: If the war were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the U.S. economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers, but that's really the last of our concerns right now.
    https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/2033911332278288617

    At the risk of simply stating the obvious Hassett is a complete moron. The idea that the US will not suffer economically should oil remain north of $100 a barrel because they produce oil themselves is absurd. It is not just a question of hurting consumers, it is a question of collapsing demand, falling investment and horrendous logistical difficulties destroying international trade.

    The Anne Applebaum article linked to on the last thread is far too gentle in its analysis. Trump and his administration are a real and current threat to world stability, peace and the economy. November can't come soon enough but even then we will have to wait until January with the absurd American system. The damage by then may be irrecoverable.
    Supposing ....Trump is not mad. The oil price hurts consumers but so does the Big Beautiful Bill and tariffs. High oil prices help the kleptocrats in the Middle East and the financiers that move the cash around (while resting in someone's account).

    MAGA is dead but they've been replaced by the neo-cons who have the protection of Trump and the Supreme Court (can't second guess the President Act)
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,824
    Dopermean said:

    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?

    There is something in this point, and in general the BBC is too kind to Trump, but to defend R4 Today, its coverage taken as a whole includes various perspectives on highly charged issues, including for example interviews with propagandists from Tehran University and Moscow. This is good in principle. But they also cover the other (what I would call mainstream, but others will differ) views as well.

    We may be getting too used to the LBC James O'Brien sort of style, in which giving an uninterrupted 10 minutes to someone with whom he disagrees even slightly is unthinkable. Listen to him for an hour (I very often take the same view as him, but that isn't the point), and then contemplate what BBC non bias means, and how profoundly important it is.

  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,824
    Voodoo poll warning: R4 Today talked to four bright sounding 16-18 year olds this morning in Wales. Of the four, who all have a vote in May, three had no intention of doing so, and the fourth was a maybe. This is sad.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    Dopermean said:

    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?

    Is that even a question ?
    It's beyond bizarre that he's considered the BBC's US expert.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746
    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates

    It will probably stay close to the 100 dollar a barrel mark until Trump orders the marines to take Kharg island .

    Although according to some of the Trump lickspittles in Congress this won’t count as boots on the ground !

    Why will taking Kharg island make a difference to the price ?
    (Other than sending it higher.)
    Yes it will go higher at that point . So we best enjoy the halcyon days of 100 dollars a barrel !
    It will partly depend on whether Iran has filled it with booby traps, whether the US triggers those booby traps.

    Or just blows it up "for the fun of it" (TM D J Trump).
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,270
    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746

    Morning all.
    I can make my moobs bigger with just choccy biccies, can I lead a party?

    Want to have a go at Labour? I mean, how hard can it be to do better?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,323

    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    It's not a lot, but it will help.
    One of the problems with pipelines is that they pass through areas not entirely stable.
    This required a deal with the Kurds.

    Oil price falls after Iraq ‘signs deal’ to resume exports via Turkey
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2026/mar/18/oil-stock-markets-iraq-deal-exports-turkey-inflation-central-bankers-news-updates

    It will probably stay close to the 100 dollar a barrel mark until Trump orders the marines to take Kharg island .

    Although according to some of the Trump lickspittles in Congress this won’t count as boots on the ground !

    Why will taking Kharg island make a difference to the price ?
    (Other than sending it higher.)
    Yes it will go higher at that point . So we best enjoy the halcyon days of 100 dollars a barrel !
    It will partly depend on whether Iran has filled it with booby traps, whether the US triggers those booby traps.

    Or just blows it up "for the fun of it" (TM D J Trump).
    When is boots on the ground not boots on the ground !

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5787697-us-marines-iran-deployment/
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,180
    edited 8:49AM
    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Being unserious hasn't inhibited other politicians. Which party leader is serious right now? Maybe Starmer somewhat. But only somewhat.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 10,006

    Nigelb said:

    An alternate idea might be something along these lines.
    France had a production line for nuclear power stations, back in 1981.

    Les ateliers de construction Framatome des cuves du Creusot au cœur de la période « faste » du programme #nucléaire français. Pour avoir une idée de son ampleur : En 1981, 26 réacteurs sont en cours de construction à différents stades d’avancement.
    https://x.com/Mangeon4/status/1632627857837924352

    I love the French when it comes to the location of the Chooz nuclear power plant.


    Vulnerable to a Belgian invasion, that! :lol:
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,886
    @peark.es‬

    Lots of noise in crude futures but since US/Israel attacks on Iran started they've trended higher by about $2/calendar day. That gets you to $150/barrel crude by mid-April, about 6 weeks after the conflict kicked off. The huge noise of the initial short squeeze and short-term swings obscure a lot.

    https://bsky.app/profile/peark.es/post/3mh6ptahnuc2o
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582
    edited 8:53AM
    Dopermean said:

    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?

    In a very poor cast at the moment Justin Webb is the worst. Not only did he forget to ask any challenging questions he actually seemed petrified of his interviewee. The BBC are barely worth listening to anymore unless your interest is something parochial like fly tipping
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,886
    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,796
    MIC have Reform 28%, Con 21%, Lab 20%, Green 13%, Lib Dem 12%.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,974

    Morning all.
    I can make my moobs bigger with just choccy biccies, can I lead a party?

    Want to have a go at Labour? I mean, how hard can it be to do better?
    How do you lead a party that want to spend more without any cuts or tax raises in an environment where taxes need to rise just to stand still?

    And before getting smug about that, how do you lead a party that wants to cut taxes without making any cuts in spending in an environment where spending needs to rise just to stay still?

    Part of the reason we have rubbish leaders who don't last is the role of leader is currently pretty much impossible to do well without challenging the outdated and impossible to deliver core beliefs of party members head on.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,824
    Trying to predict future trends towards the next GE is not easy. One easy bit at the moment is that the future trend of Reform will be related to the fact that it is currently considered a candidate for government, but the future trend of Green will be related to the fact that they are not currently considered a candidate for government.

    In the end most votes in England, outside the 100 max seats the LDs can win which are proxy Labour, go to outfits considered candidates for government.

    If Greens, like Reform, start looking like a candidate for government more than 15% of voters are going to notice that the nation's finances would be in the hands of modern monetary theory, or the magic money tree.

    As things stand, in the next election a significant majority of voters won't want a Reform government. A similar proportion won't want a Green one. It may be boring but this is good news of a sort for Labour. And would be good news for the One Nation Tories if such a party existed.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,708
    Sean_F said:

    MIC have Reform 28%, Con 21%, Lab 20%, Green 13%, Lib Dem 12%.

    And all leaders (I think) with a small decline in personal ratings from last week but nothing suggesting a strong reaction good or bad for anyone to the war situation
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582
    I thought it was quite smart of Zack to get a Sun journalist to bare her tits to expose the shallowness of their journalism
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,974
    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Err, thats 101 in how to lose independent votes outside your own constituency in order to look cool in a safe seat.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,889
    Foxy said:

    No wonder the Greens poll well in Bristol.

    Bristol Central, Bristol East or both bristols?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,708

    Morning all.
    I can make my moobs bigger with just choccy biccies, can I lead a party?

    Want to have a go at Labour? I mean, how hard can it be to do better?
    I'd be a cracking Labour leader. Make it so!
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,547
    algarkirk said:

    Trying to predict future trends towards the next GE is not easy. One easy bit at the moment is that the future trend of Reform will be related to the fact that it is currently considered a candidate for government, but the future trend of Green will be related to the fact that they are not currently considered a candidate for government.

    In the end most votes in England, outside the 100 max seats the LDs can win which are proxy Labour, go to outfits considered candidates for government.

    If Greens, like Reform, start looking like a candidate for government more than 15% of voters are going to notice that the nation's finances would be in the hands of modern monetary theory, or the magic money tree.

    As things stand, in the next election a significant majority of voters won't want a Reform government. A similar proportion won't want a Green one. It may be boring but this is good news of a sort for Labour. And would be good news for the One Nation Tories if such a party existed.

    Tories have a stark choice

    Change Leader to a more affable centrist option or die.

    Labour have a tactical choice

    When, not if is the best time to change Leader. With Starmer's best work being on the global stage, that may be later, rather than sooner.

    Very interesting this morning that despite Rayners speech yesterday, Burnham has been very positive about the Reeves speech yesterday.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494

    Nigelb said:

    An alternate idea might be something along these lines.
    France had a production line for nuclear power stations, back in 1981.

    Les ateliers de construction Framatome des cuves du Creusot au cœur de la période « faste » du programme #nucléaire français. Pour avoir une idée de son ampleur : En 1981, 26 réacteurs sont en cours de construction à différents stades d’avancement.
    https://x.com/Mangeon4/status/1632627857837924352

    I love the French when it comes to the location of the Chooz nuclear power plant.


    Chooz life!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,102
    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Dunno, he may discover the gravitas conferred by the wetsuit and dad dancing.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494
    edited 9:07AM
    Foxy said:

    No wonder the Greens poll well in Bristol.

    "Oh, my god! I just *so* cannot believe you said that!"
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,415
    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Black Chicago lawyer runs for office. Haven't we seen this movie before?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582
    Sean_F said:

    MIC have Reform 28%, Con 21%, Lab 20%, Green 13%, Lib Dem 12%.

    I prefer to look at it as fascists 28% non fascists 66%. Tactical voting instructions to be handed out nearer the time
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,708
    edited 9:09AM
    MiCs drop to 28 means for now Reform cling on to 30 with only 2 pollsters both on exactly 30 - Freshwater Strategy and Deltapoll (who last reported in December).
    For comparison at the end of January, 7 pollsters had them 30 or over (and as high as 33)

    The Reform decline is a very real thing (and of course might reverse)
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,323
    The Reeves speech went under the radar because of other events but is the biggest move back towards the single market since the Brexit vote .
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,059
    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    So he’s the Greens Ed Davey.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,889
    geoffw said:

    How does taking Kharg island help matters? Tankers still have to go through the straits of Hormuz

    Restricts the ability of Iran to load tankers so balances the pain
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746

    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Black Chicago lawyer runs for office. Haven't we seen this movie before?
    Yes we have.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494

    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Black Chicago lawyer runs for office. Haven't we seen this movie before?
    Mixed race! His mom was white!
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 445
    algarkirk said:

    Voodoo poll warning: R4 Today talked to four bright sounding 16-18 year olds this morning in Wales. Of the four, who all have a vote in May, three had no intention of doing so, and the fourth was a maybe. This is sad.

    But very much par for the course.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,889

    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Err, thats 101 in how to lose independent votes outside your own constituency in order to look cool in a safe seat.
    Nah it’s just silly and trite and will be forgotten in minutes
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494
    Taz said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    So he’s the Greens Ed Davey.
    Zac to me just comes across as a smug so and so!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Dunno, he may discover the gravitas conferred by the wetsuit and dad dancing.
    They need to have a Bungee-off....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,494
    algarkirk said:

    Voodoo poll warning:

    Did you hear about the... oh, never mind!
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 298
    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,752
    The Greens are a party of protest under Polanski growing by winning over Corbynites from Labour disillusioned with Starmer.
    However, as the poll shows voters also have reservations about their management of defence, immigration and the national finances as they did with Corbyn which will likely see swing voters still not vote for them
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,180


    Trump says he's 'not afraid' of Vietnam-style ground combat in Iran

    Indeed he isn't. Bone spurs are Trump's secret weapon in avoiding Vietnam style ground combat.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15654729/trump-not-afraid-ground-combat-iran.html
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,752
    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)

    Swinney also voted against I see
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,059

    Taz said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    So he’s the Greens Ed Davey.
    Zac to me just comes across as a smug so and so!
    He’s not been tested yet and has had quite a favourable press

    He is smug, and I expect once under pressure his many limitations will show.

    He cannot just rely on claiming opponents are ‘rattled’ when they criticise Green policies.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582

    Taz said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    So he’s the Greens Ed Davey.
    Zac to me just comes across as a smug so and so!
    You're just jealous of his chat up line
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746
    edited 9:37AM
    nico67 said:

    The Reeves speech went under the radar because of other events but is the biggest move back towards the single market since the Brexit vote .

    OR... nobody is listening because it's Reeves and she will be out in May.
  • UnpopularUnpopular Posts: 959

    Taz said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    So he’s the Greens Ed Davey.
    Zac to me just comes across as a smug so and so!
    It's what happens when you try to act like Mamdani but you've got a creepy stare and an unsettling demeanor. More mad monk vibes.

    Then again, it kind of worked for Rasputin?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746
    FF43 said:



    Trump says he's 'not afraid' of Vietnam-style ground combat in Iran

    Indeed he isn't. Bone spurs are Trump's secret weapon in avoiding Vietnam style ground combat.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15654729/trump-not-afraid-ground-combat-iran.html

    Is he afraid of a similar outcome - America being handed its butt?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746
    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)

    Oh well, Jersey it is then...
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582

    Scott_xP said:

    The future of US political messaging

    @glonzo-in-exile.bsky.social‬

    This is the ad that won the Senate race

    @julianastratton.bsky.social‬

    They said it. We’re all thinking it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/julianastratton.bsky.social/post/3mfa4zophok2t

    Black Chicago lawyer runs for office. Haven't we seen this movie before?
    Cue me when it's time for me to say " No Chance"
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    .
    FF43 said:



    Trump says he's 'not afraid' of Vietnam-style ground combat in Iran

    Indeed he isn't. Bone spurs are Trump's secret weapon in avoiding Vietnam style ground combat.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15654729/trump-not-afraid-ground-combat-iran.html

    Does that mean he's planning to have US troops in Iran for the next decade ?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,294
    Scott_xP said:

    @peark.es‬

    Lots of noise in crude futures but since US/Israel attacks on Iran started they've trended higher by about $2/calendar day. That gets you to $150/barrel crude by mid-April, about 6 weeks after the conflict kicked off. The huge noise of the initial short squeeze and short-term swings obscure a lot.

    https://bsky.app/profile/peark.es/post/3mh6ptahnuc2o

    This is the aspect that I'm finding confusing now.

    We are told Hormuz is the "choke point" so if no or very little oil is going through we are either having to source our oil by other means or we are using up that which was already purchased and stored before the conflict began.

    At some point, it seems, and even with the coming of warmer weather in the Northern Hemisphere reducing demand, we are going to get issues with supply as pre-existing stocks are used and cannot be replenished or at least to levels that are comfortable.

    We use 100 million barrels a day (not the UK, the world). Releases of 400 million barrels sound a lot but it's four to five days supply and if you look at coverage in places like New Zealand, there's already talk of rationing and Air New Zealand have cancelled hundreds of internal flights to save the cost of fuel.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,534
    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)

    No Glaswegian retirement option, the Monks of Buckfast will be disappointed that business opportunity has gone.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,582
    FF43 said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Being unserious hasn't inhibited other politicians. Which party leader is serious right now? Maybe Starmer somewhat. But only somewhat.
    Having seen Badenoch yesterday I'd say Polanski is considerably more appealing. People like politicians who can think on their feet and who are articulate. He fits both she fits neither
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 298
    HYUFD said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)

    Swinney also voted against I see
    yes, he got this one right.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,752
    Sweeney74 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    OT, but a bit of sense finally in Holyrood as MSPs reject the Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill.
    Only one MSP abstained, the health secretary Neil Gray, while 57 voted for assisted dying and 69 voted against.

    Assisted dying rejected by Scotland after landmark bill fails (Times Paywall)

    Swinney also voted against I see
    yes, he got this one right.
    Indeed, he voted with Sarwar and Findlay against.

    The Scottish Green and LD leaders voted for though
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,137
    MelonB said:

    Typical leading poll question though. You get similar effects when people are asked if they’d vote Reform after being told about the latest racism revelation.

    I agree to some extent but I am expecting both Reform and Greens to wilt under the spotlight of A GE campaign. Lots of people don't pay much attention from one GE to the next.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,284
    Roger said:

    FF43 said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Being unserious hasn't inhibited other politicians. Which party leader is serious right now? Maybe Starmer somewhat. But only somewhat.
    Having seen Badenoch yesterday I'd say Polanski is considerably more appealing. People like politicians who can think on their feet and who are articulate. He fits both she fits neither
    I'm just worried that if I watch a PPB from him my man boobs will get even bigger.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,534
    Roger said:

    Dopermean said:

    Justin Webb on R4 sending up the clays for a former Trump staffer, Aaron Cohen.
    Totally unchallenged claims
    Joe Kent solely motivated by personal political ambition and anti-Semitism
    The war on Iran is totally going to plan
    Hormuz issue is being overplayed

    Is Justin Webb fit for purpose?

    In a very poor cast at the moment Justin Webb is the worst. Not only did he forget to ask any challenging questions he actually seemed petrified of his interviewee. The BBC are barely worth listening to anymore unless your interest is something parochial like fly tipping
    My mistake Ezra Cohen
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,752
    Rayner in a speech says '"the very survival of the Labour Party is at stake – as a party and a movement we cannot hide, we cannot go through the motions in the face of decline. We are running out of time."

    She also said "the Labour Party is at its best when we are bold," a line reminiscent of a restless Gordon Brown in 2003, appealing to what he called Labour's "soul" and arguing the party was "best when we are boldest."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd8d10n9x5o
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,264
    Trump gets gently schooled by the Irish leader.
    (Who also defends Starmer.)
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2033941006928789762
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,294
    Roger said:

    FF43 said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Being unserious hasn't inhibited other politicians. Which party leader is serious right now? Maybe Starmer somewhat. But only somewhat.
    Having seen Badenoch yesterday I'd say Polanski is considerably more appealing. People like politicians who can think on their feet and who are articulate. He fits both she fits neither
    Now, now, she was very good on the Great Godstone Sinkhole - she didn't fall in or say she would look into it. She expressed appropriate concern for local businesses and wasn't too hard on the Highway Authority, which just happens to be run by the Conservatives.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,746

    Roger said:

    FF43 said:

    Cicero said:

    Polanski is a man whose ambitions exceed his talents.

    He is a deeply unserious figure, and will eventually be tested and found wanting.

    Being unserious hasn't inhibited other politicians. Which party leader is serious right now? Maybe Starmer somewhat. But only somewhat.
    Having seen Badenoch yesterday I'd say Polanski is considerably more appealing. People like politicians who can think on their feet and who are articulate. He fits both she fits neither
    I'm just worried that if I watch a PPB from him my man boobs will get even bigger.
    His schtick is hypnosis. So you will only think they are bigger.

    Whilst being a chicken.
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