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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,519
    edited March 7
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Reform UK is mulling rolling out new grammar schools if Nigel Farage wins the next general election, The i Paper understands.

    Reform’s leaders and activists are wildly supportive of selective education and the party does not believe in “banning things for the sake of banning things,” a senior source said.

    While there are currently 163 grammar schools in England, the creation of new selective secondary schools was outlawed by New Labour in 1998.
    In recent years, the Conservative governments led by Theresa May and Liz Truss backed lifting the ban but never got around to doing so.

    But with Reform having led opinion polls for many months, the issue of new grammar schools looks set to return to the political agenda.

    House of Commons library research suggests that in January 2022, there were 188,000 pupils attending grammar schools in England, which admit children through an entrance exam taken at age 10-11, called the 11-plus. While new grammar schools are banned, current ones can expand their numbers or extend their buildings.

    A senior Reform source told The i Paper that there was “a lot” of support for new selective schools in the party.

    They said a Reform government could legislate to end the ban on new grammars and allow people to launch new ones as free schools – schools outside of local authority control which groups like parents and charities can set up.'
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-grammar-schools-return-farage-becomes-pm-4256703?ico=in-line_link

    New Grammar Schools means New Secondary Moderns (though they won't be called that).

    It has been well established that SE class is one of the biggest indicators of who gets the places at the Grammar, alongside parental education, and the children of immigrants. So it will disproportionally be the children and grandchildren of Reform voters that go to the new "sink schools".

    If there was a policy best designed to adversely impact on the life prospects of its own voters it would be hard to top this one.
    Utter rubbish, grammars remain far more likely to get their pupils into Oxbridge and other top universities and professional and managerial careers percentage wise than the average comp or academy is, so they offer a ladder to the top for the academic child whose parents do not earn enough to send their child to private school. There are also many excellent high schools and non selective academies too now in selective areas like Bucks and Trafford. Farage also wants more free schools, including some grammars.

    Plenty of Reform voters now are ex Tory voters too otherwise they wouldn't be leading the polls would they? This is one Reform policy most Tory voters will back, after all you can't even ballot to open new grammars now but parents can petition to ballot to close existing grammars
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 518
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Reform UK is mulling rolling out new grammar schools if Nigel Farage wins the next general election, The i Paper understands.

    Reform’s leaders and activists are wildly supportive of selective education and the party does not believe in “banning things for the sake of banning things,” a senior source said.

    While there are currently 163 grammar schools in England, the creation of new selective secondary schools was outlawed by New Labour in 1998.
    In recent years, the Conservative governments led by Theresa May and Liz Truss backed lifting the ban but never got around to doing so.

    But with Reform having led opinion polls for many months, the issue of new grammar schools looks set to return to the political agenda.

    House of Commons library research suggests that in January 2022, there were 188,000 pupils attending grammar schools in England, which admit children through an entrance exam taken at age 10-11, called the 11-plus. While new grammar schools are banned, current ones can expand their numbers or extend their buildings.

    A senior Reform source told The i Paper that there was “a lot” of support for new selective schools in the party.

    They said a Reform government could legislate to end the ban on new grammars and allow people to launch new ones as free schools – schools outside of local authority control which groups like parents and charities can set up.'
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-grammar-schools-return-farage-becomes-pm-4256703?ico=in-line_link

    New Grammar Schools means New Secondary Moderns (though they won't be called that).

    It has been well established that SE class is one of the biggest indicators of who gets the places at the Grammar, alongside parental education, and the children of immigrants. So it will disproportionally be the children and grandchildren of Reform voters that go to the new "sink schools".

    If there was a policy best designed to adversely impact on the life prospects of its own voters it would be hard to top this one.
    Utter rubbish, grammars remain far more likely to get their pupils into Oxbridge and other top universities and professional and managerial careers percentage wise than the average comp or academy is, so they offer a ladder to the top for the academic child whose parents do not earn enough to send their child to private school. There are also many excellent high schools and non selective academies too now in selective areas like Bucks and Trafford. Farage also wants more free schools, including some grammars.

    Plenty of Reform voters now are ex Tory voters too otherwise they wouldn't be leading the polls would they? This is one Reform policy most Tory voters will back, after all you can't even ballot to open new grammars now but parents can petition to ballot to close existing grammars
    Authoritarianism requires an uneducated citizenry.
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