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  • TazTaz Posts: 25,593

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Bits of the regime distancing themselves from others?
    There was an interview with one of the few senior Iranians left, Aragachi, who basically said they had no control over local groups now.

    Maybe it’s true.

    He also said they didn’t want to close,Strait of Hormuz.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 12,162
    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Or Iranian command and control is disintegrating and it's a rouge element.
    Surely you mean "rogue elephant"?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,580

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    The obvious answer is that the US bombed them thinking that they were over Iran
    Kuwaitis again.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 879
    I think it is poetic justice the American flights shot down by friendly fire. It is usually the Americans shooting down their allies.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,430
    Chris said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Or Iranian command and control is disintegrating and it's a rouge element.
    Surely you mean "rogue elephant"?
    Cheers! Corrected.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,748
    Chris said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Or Iranian command and control is disintegrating and it's a rouge element.
    Surely you mean "rogue elephant"?
    I quite like the idea of ayatollahs in rouge
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,284
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Bits of the regime distancing themselves from others?
    There was an interview with one of the few senior Iranians left, Aragachi, who basically said they had no control over local groups now.

    Maybe it’s true.

    He also said they didn’t want to close,Strait of Hormuz.
    Well these ‘local groups’ are about to come into contact with the world’s largest military force. It’s unlikely to end well for them.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,284

    Chris said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Or Iranian command and control is disintegrating and it's a rouge element.
    Surely you mean "rogue elephant"?
    I quite like the idea of ayatollahs in rouge
    Cardinals?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,112
    Chris said:

    Foss said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Or Iranian command and control is disintegrating and it's a rouge element.
    Surely you mean "rogue elephant"?
    Imran Khan, to those in the know...

    (If you get the reference, you truly are a cricket fan).
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,129
    Trump couldn’t even be bothered to pretend he gives a fig about US troops being killed .

    “ That’s the way it is “ !

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,414
    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,741
    HYUFD said:

    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/

    Do we think Starmer's treason will be punished?

    If I were Starmer I'd cancel Brian's visit to Washington next month.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,154
    HYUFD said:

    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/

    London bombed next?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,759

    I wonder whether the people who are so pusillanimous here and view "victory" as a foul word would have been the same in WWII when we were fighting the Nazis? How dare we be fighting for victory?

    The Mullahs are an evil that needs defeating. Now is the time to press for victory and see them eliminated once and for all.

    War should be a last resort, but when war comes, fighting for victory is the right thing to do.

    How many times are you going to repeat "victory"?

    Look, if the US and Israel had a clear war plan to defeat the Iranian regime, maybe you'd have an argument. But they don't. They're going to bomb some bits and then probably sign a new nuclear treaty that looks very similar to the one Obama did. A lot of people are going to die for very little.
    Until there is regime change.

    If Trump does that, then shame on him.

    Don't mistake my support for regime change as support for Trump. I despise Trump. I support war here to get regime change.

    Anything short of regime change and I will condemn Trump for chickening out.

    However you are wrong to call it very little. The damage to the regime is already not very little, which is why Lebanon now feels freed to tackle Hezbollah.

    The more damage inflicted upon this regime, the better.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,891
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,741

    Oil up by 7%. Gas on spot markets up 30%. ( BBC)

    Well done Rachel from accounts!

    I bow to nobody in my criticism of Reeves, but this is hardly her fault.
    I was preempting Urquhart and Woolie.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 633
    On the London mayoral election if Gorton and Denton was perceived to be uphill going for Reform given it was up to 40% minority, surely London would be worse given it is majority minority?

    Especially under a run-off voting system where there's no chance of getting in on a split vote. And yet Laila Cunningham is 6/4 with Hills.

    The Garbett logic is interesting, but she may not even be candidate. (Bartley is shorter price)
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,891
    HYUFD said:

    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/

    It's pointless trying to appease Trump. Starmer should have told him to go fuck himself like the Spaniards did. Grow some cojones. Operation Epstein Distraction is not our war and we should have no part of it.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,414

    HYUFD said:

    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/

    It's pointless trying to appease Trump. Starmer should have told him to go fuck himself like the Spaniards did. Grow some cojones. Operation Epstein Distraction is not our war and we should have no part of it.
    He has to still help defend British citizens in the Gulf though even if he doesn't join the US and Israeli strikes on Iran otherwise
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,414
    edited 3:05PM
    PaulM said:

    On the London mayoral election if Gorton and Denton was perceived to be uphill going for Reform given it was up to 40% minority, surely London would be worse given it is majority minority?

    Especially under a run-off voting system where there's no chance of getting in on a split vote. And yet Laila Cunningham is 6/4 with Hills.

    The Garbett logic is interesting, but she may not even be candidate. (Bartley is shorter price)

    Cunningham has no chance, neither would any Reform candidate in London as a whole and as a Muslim woman many of the Reform core vote will likely sadly go Restore or Advance or even Tory instead of her
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,133
    nico67 said:

    At what point can we reasonably say this has become World War III?

    Greece is sending 2 frigates and aircraft to defend Cyprus apparently
    Of course, whatever they can do to antagonise Turkey.

    Wherever you look around the world, everyone with long standing hatred with their neighbours. 😕 what’s wrong with the message “love thy neighbour?”
    Cyprus is under attack so of course they will defend it
    There is truth in what you are saying. But there’s a bit of truth in what I am pointing out as well.
    There is but not relevant in this crisis

    Starmer to address the HOC at 3.30pm
    In our minds maybe not playground bullying of Iran, but we are talking about the Turkish people headspace. And now they see the Greek military steaming into the action.
    If Turkey is triggered by Greece defending itself, that is very much Turkey's problem, and it is craven pandering nonsense to suggest that Greece should alter its behaviour to take into account such 'sensitivities'.
    You make it clear, your approach to these things will be very different than mine. I still say all sorts of “sensitivities” needs to be carefully considered in situations this. People not even born yet can kill a lot of people in twenty years time, holiday makers perhaps in terror incidents, inspired by events that could happen this very day.

    Were the Greeks invited to help, by UK maybe, or invited themselves? There’s the angle I come round and help you mow your lawn, where you don’t want me helping you mow your lawn, it makes you look bad.

    Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
    Are you still going on about this .

    The Greeks are simply helping their close neighbour to shoot down any incoming missiles . Do you seriously think Turkey is going to be upset by this ?

    The difficult bit for NATO and others comes if Israel and Turkey go to war. They've both been expanding their spheres of influence in Syria and bumping up against each other.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,397
    The Dr being persecuted by the same group is more chilling
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,208
    nico67 said:

    At what point can we reasonably say this has become World War III?

    Greece is sending 2 frigates and aircraft to defend Cyprus apparently
    Of course, whatever they can do to antagonise Turkey.

    Wherever you look around the world, everyone with long standing hatred with their neighbours. 😕 what’s wrong with the message “love thy neighbour?”
    Cyprus is under attack so of course they will defend it
    There is truth in what you are saying. But there’s a bit of truth in what I am pointing out as well.
    There is but not relevant in this crisis

    Starmer to address the HOC at 3.30pm
    In our minds maybe not playground bullying of Iran, but we are talking about the Turkish people headspace. And now they see the Greek military steaming into the action.
    If Turkey is triggered by Greece defending itself, that is very much Turkey's problem, and it is craven pandering nonsense to suggest that Greece should alter its behaviour to take into account such 'sensitivities'.
    You make it clear, your approach to these things will be very different than mine. I still say all sorts of “sensitivities” needs to be carefully considered in situations this. People not even born yet can kill a lot of people in twenty years time, holiday makers perhaps in terror incidents, inspired by events that could happen this very day.

    Were the Greeks invited to help, by UK maybe, or invited themselves? There’s the angle I come round and help you mow your lawn, where you don’t want me helping you mow your lawn, it makes you look bad.

    Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
    Are you still going on about this .

    The Greeks are simply helping their close neighbour to shoot down any incoming missiles . Do you seriously think Turkey is going to be upset by this ?

    Yes. I am saying exactly that, what you are still thinking is so preposterous.

    I wouldn’t just wave through all help. Even you would draw a line - I’m sure - in this world there’s certain to be some who come along volunteering help in certain situations, you would turn away based on sensitivities?

    Nationalistic narratives in education systems reinforce grievances and mutual mistrust about protection of minorities in other countries, and this can fuel things and lead to instances that just join the larger narrative of hate. The current Ukraine war has a bit of “rights and protections of minorities” in creating it, lots of conflicts and invasions triggered in just the same way, especially in that part of the world. Nineteenth century maps in French and German school classrooms with different border between each country, surely that’s so harmless, what could come from that?

    There must be this view of the sensitivities in the bigger picture, even in the “excitement” of a war zone.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,133
    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    So who bombed them then ? Who has the motivation ? The Israelis as a false flag. Bit far fetched.
    Bits of the regime distancing themselves from others?
    There was an interview with one of the few senior Iranians left, Aragachi, who basically said they had no control over local groups now.

    Maybe it’s true.

    He also said they didn’t want to close,Strait of Hormuz.
    Well these ‘local groups’ are about to come into contact with the world’s largest military force. It’s unlikely to end well for them.
    Yes, because the world's largest military force has a great record in asymmetric warfare against local groups, like in Vietnam or Somalia or Yemen.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,764
    Is this really the state of the Royal Navy? This is pathetic...

    https://x.com/TBrit90/status/2028458556291236187
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,133

    I wonder whether the people who are so pusillanimous here and view "victory" as a foul word would have been the same in WWII when we were fighting the Nazis? How dare we be fighting for victory?

    The Mullahs are an evil that needs defeating. Now is the time to press for victory and see them eliminated once and for all.

    War should be a last resort, but when war comes, fighting for victory is the right thing to do.

    How many times are you going to repeat "victory"?

    Look, if the US and Israel had a clear war plan to defeat the Iranian regime, maybe you'd have an argument. But they don't. They're going to bomb some bits and then probably sign a new nuclear treaty that looks very similar to the one Obama did. A lot of people are going to die for very little.
    Until there is regime change.

    If Trump does that, then shame on him.

    Don't mistake my support for regime change as support for Trump. I despise Trump. I support war here to get regime change.

    Anything short of regime change and I will condemn Trump for chickening out.

    However you are wrong to call it very little. The damage to the regime is already not very little, which is why Lebanon now feels freed to tackle Hezbollah.

    The more damage inflicted upon this regime, the better.
    If you support war in Iran to get regime change, then, as there is no war to get regime change, you presumably aren't supporting anything.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 633
    HYUFD said:

    PaulM said:

    On the London mayoral election if Gorton and Denton was perceived to be uphill going for Reform given it was up to 40% minority, surely London would be worse given it is majority minority?

    Especially under a run-off voting system where there's no chance of getting in on a split vote. And yet Laila Cunningham is 6/4 with Hills.

    The Garbett logic is interesting, but she may not even be candidate. (Bartley is shorter price)

    Cunningham has no chance, neither would any Reform candidate in London as a whole and as a Muslim woman many of the Reform core vote will likely sadly go Restore or Advance or even Tory instead of her
    No chance isn't typically priced at 6/4F (or 9/4 with Ladbrokes) so they msut be seeing something we aren't.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,312

    Oil up by 7%. Gas on spot markets up 30%. ( BBC)

    Well done Rachel from accounts!

    I bow to nobody in my criticism of Reeves, but this is hardly her fault.
    I was preempting Urquhart and Woolie.
    I think there's been enough preemptive strikes this month already
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,133
    PaulM said:

    On the London mayoral election if Gorton and Denton was perceived to be uphill going for Reform given it was up to 40% minority, surely London would be worse given it is majority minority?

    Especially under a run-off voting system where there's no chance of getting in on a split vote. And yet Laila Cunningham is 6/4 with Hills.

    The Garbett logic is interesting, but she may not even be candidate. (Bartley is shorter price)

    I wouldn't've thought Bartley would stand either. He's been stepping back from Green Party activity.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,046

    Oil up by 7%. Gas on spot markets up 30%. ( BBC)

    Well done Rachel from accounts!

    I bow to nobody in my criticism of Reeves, but this is hardly her fault.
    I was preempting Urquhart and Woolie.
    I think there's been enough preemptive strikes this month already
    Certainly there seems no need to start firebombing we innocents
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,195
    edited 3:16PM
    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,046
    PaulM said:

    HYUFD said:

    PaulM said:

    On the London mayoral election if Gorton and Denton was perceived to be uphill going for Reform given it was up to 40% minority, surely London would be worse given it is majority minority?

    Especially under a run-off voting system where there's no chance of getting in on a split vote. And yet Laila Cunningham is 6/4 with Hills.

    The Garbett logic is interesting, but she may not even be candidate. (Bartley is shorter price)

    Cunningham has no chance, neither would any Reform candidate in London as a whole and as a Muslim woman many of the Reform core vote will likely sadly go Restore or Advance or even Tory instead of her
    No chance isn't typically priced at 6/4F (or 9/4 with Ladbrokes) so they msut be seeing something we aren't.

    Reform have given punters a name to back, Tories, Lib Dems and Greens haven't
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,580

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    I saw some speculation that as the movie apparently isn't out in the USA none of the celebrities will have seen it so are just going for the easy gags.

    Christ, they could at least have watched the South Park episode about Tourettes.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 11,003
    edited 3:25PM

    Is this really the state of the Royal Navy? This is pathetic...

    https://x.com/TBrit90/status/2028458556291236187

    As I was saying earlier, it seens that only Greece can get two frigates to Cyprus quickly to defend it. It makes the British base there look a bit vulnerable.

    Starner should probably coumt himself lucky that the Greek PM is such an ex-Londoner Anglophile.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,195
    edited 3:22PM
    kle4 said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    I saw some speculation that as the movie apparently isn't out in the USA none of the celebrities will have seen it so are just going for the easy gags.

    Christ, they could at least have watched the South Park episode about Tourettes.
    Given most of the people digging themselves a hole are normally so be kind lot and very sensitive to any form of discrimination, it seems like they believe Tourette is this weird UK white person only condition that is a bit optional.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,580

    kle4 said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    I saw some speculation that as the movie apparently isn't out in the USA none of the celebrities will have seen it so are just going for the easy gags.

    Christ, they could at least have watched the South Park episode about Tourettes.
    Given most of the people digging themselves a hole are normally so be kind lot and very sensitive to any form of discrimination, it seems like they believe Tourette is this weird UK white person only condition.
    Or that it is simply a lack of filter.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,284

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.

    The more edgy you want to be, the more funny you have to be.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,046
    edited 3:24PM
    Starmer being coerced out from behind the Downing Street sofa to make a statement to parly at 3.30.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,195
    edited 3:24PM
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    I saw some speculation that as the movie apparently isn't out in the USA none of the celebrities will have seen it so are just going for the easy gags.

    Christ, they could at least have watched the South Park episode about Tourettes.
    Given most of the people digging themselves a hole are normally so be kind lot and very sensitive to any form of discrimination, it seems like they believe Tourette is this weird UK white person only condition.
    Or that it is simply a lack of filter.
    The BET monologue literally said well he better take a lot of more meds if he wants to come to our community ceremony, otherwise....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,580
    Sandpit said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.

    The more edgy you want to be, the more funny you have to be.
    Many a 'shock' comic has learned that being offensive can be funny, but doing so without skill is not.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,195
    edited 3:27PM
    Sandpit said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.

    The more edgy you want to be, the more funny you have to be.
    Also I thought it was the rules of progressive comedy, no punching down.....

    The thing is even edgy comics like Carr, normally the gag is more general, not at one specific person, unless they have done the do me do me heckle. The last comic I can think of that really targetted individuals with really edgy stuff was Frankie Boyle and he doesn't do that stuff anymore.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,230

    Sandpit said:

    https://x.com/ajmurgent/status/2028454517000266088

    URGENT | Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister to CNN: We are not responsible for the bombing of Saudi oil fields and we have informed our brothers in the Kingdom of that.

    Lol, so whose missiles and drones were they?
    Starmer!!!!!!
    Starmer's would have performed a mid air u-turn.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,112

    Sandpit said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.

    The more edgy you want to be, the more funny you have to be.
    Also I thought it was the rules of progressive comedy, no punching down.....

    The thing is even edgy comics like Carr, normally the gag is more general, not at one specific person, unless they have done the do me do me heckle. The last comic I can think of that really targetted individuals with really edgy stuff was Frankie Boyle and he doesn't do that stuff anymore.
    Wasn't has downfall to mock a natonional treasure's (Becky Adlington) appearance?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,195
    edited 3:33PM

    Sandpit said:

    #SNL's BAFTAs Tourette's sketch is under fire as the charity group Tourette’s Action slams the "horrific" trolling.

    “Mocking a disability is never acceptable. It would not be tolerated for any other condition, and it should not be tolerated by people with Tourette’s. Tourette’s is a complex neurological condition, of which there is no cure. It is not a joke. It is not a personality trait. It is not a source of entertainment. It is a condition that can be extremely debilitating, causing pain isolation and huge amounts of discrimination.”

    https://x.com/Variety/status/2028471147256316347?s=20

    The BET awards monologue show one was worse. Basically saying they would lynch somebody like that if they came to their awards do as why can't whitey control themselves. I presume they didn't know that John Davidson suffered exactly that.

    If you are going to do super edgy, you better be funny.

    The more edgy you want to be, the more funny you have to be.
    Also I thought it was the rules of progressive comedy, no punching down.....

    The thing is even edgy comics like Carr, normally the gag is more general, not at one specific person, unless they have done the do me do me heckle. The last comic I can think of that really targetted individuals with really edgy stuff was Frankie Boyle and he doesn't do that stuff anymore.
    Wasn't has downfall to mock a natonional treasure's (Becky Adlington) appearance?
    The really "bad" gag was about Katie Price's disabled son. Becky Adlington was very tame in comparison.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,741

    Taz said:

    Sandpit said:

    BBC WATO not impressed that emergency evacuation hasn't been scrambled yet. Poor Tiegen from Northern Ireland only went to a Dubai for a shopping trip and isn't very happy that Starmer hasn't got her out yet.

    LOL.

    The malls are still open and less busy than usual, what more does she want?
    Her meds run out on Wednesday and I believe all the pharmacies have closed down in the 20 years since I was last there. She has to stay in her small hotel room because her family don't want her venturing out amongst the fire and fury.

    Why hasn't Starmer got you all out yet? Doesn't he care?
    Morbidly obese woman on Tyne Tees local news, moved to the UAE to work a few years back, whining that the govt can’t repatriate her.

    Worlds smallest violin time.
    So ITV are as furious as the BBC at Starmer's failure to airlift 300,000 Brits out of the Greater Gulf area.
    Its essentially moving as many people as the Dunkirk evacuation.
    So why isn't Starmer sending little boats and Spitfires?
    The small boats brand has taken a bit of a pasting.

    Spitfires might actually be fairly effective against Shaheed drones, though Hurricanes would have better low speed handling.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,445
    Starmer now explaining in Parliament why taking off from a UK airbase to go bomb sites in Iran is merely defensive.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 126,584

    NEW THREAD

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,133

    Is this really the state of the Royal Navy? This is pathetic...

    https://x.com/TBrit90/status/2028458556291236187

    As I was saying earlier, it seens that only Greece can get two frigates to Cyprus quickly to defend it. It makes the British base there look a bit vulnerable.

    Starner should probably coumt himself lucky that the Greek PM is such an ex-Londoner Anglophile.
    Are frigates what are needed to defend Cyprus? Iran aren't launching an invasion from the sea.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,741
    edited 3:39PM
    HYUFD said:

    'Exclusive: Trump – I’m ‘very disappointed’ in Starmer over Iran'
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/03/02/exclusive-trump-very-disappointed-in-starmer-over-iran/

    I'm very disappointed in Trump over Ukraine.
    Or would be if I didn't always expect him to be an utterly unreliable ally.

    But rich of the old sex offender to expect European support after pulling the rug on NATO.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,602

    https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2028427877918618092

    Lebanon Prime Minister says Hezbollah will be banned, Lebanese military will enforce decision

    About time. Well done and good luck to them!

    Without the Mullahs the Middle East will be a far safer place.
    I feel the same about mullets. They’re an abomination.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,602

    Have you heard Whiskey Pete's ra-ra speech?

    On BBC, Lyse Duvet who I have a great deal of time for is very circumspect. She doesn't seem impressed with the lack of a war plan.

    Henry Zephman and Sarah Montague withering in their criticism of Starmer as a result of Trump's Telegraph interview. Should Trump be thinking of regime change in the UK?

    Lyse Duvet. Does she do coverups?

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