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  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,509
    edited February 20
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    It could not be clearer to Congress that they need to impeach and convict Trump and remove him from office. The President has a clear constitutional duty to enforce the law, which means immediately rescinding tariffs that the Supreme Court has ruled are unconstitutional.

    There's no wriggle room or interpretation possible there.
    Technically the SC actually said whether the tariffs stand is a matter for Congress, so if Congress vote to keep them they stand
    Is Congress in session tonight rushing a Bill through to keep the tariffs in place?
    No?
    Then the tariffs have to go.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,256
    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    Exactly, you don't need a single GCSE to walk up a driveway and deliver a letter or parcel
    Walk? Walk?
    Obvs those chinese dancing robots will be delivering the mail within my lifetime so maybe this is all moot?

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,509

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    It could not be clearer to Congress that they need to impeach and convict Trump and remove him from office. The President has a clear constitutional duty to enforce the law, which means immediately rescinding tariffs that the Supreme Court has ruled are unconstitutional.

    There's no wriggle room or interpretation possible there.
    The Congress of Shame will be how the history books record this period me thinks.
    Cowards Congress.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,509
    edited February 20

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    It could not be clearer to Congress that they need to impeach and convict Trump and remove him from office. The President has a clear constitutional duty to enforce the law, which means immediately rescinding tariffs that the Supreme Court has ruled are unconstitutional.

    There's no wriggle room or interpretation possible there.
    Not the way it works, unfortunately.

    They ruled that this action was unlawful. So they've taken another action which has not gone before the Court, that resets the legal process.

    As I understand it this new action has a 150 day limit though, which is part of the reason why it was never used in the first place. So question becomes what happens when the 150 days is up? If Congress has by then voted to implement such tariffs, it addresses the concerns that Gorsuch et al wrote about.

    If they keep these in place in clear violation of the 150 day limit, then expect it rapidly to end up back before the Courts.
    Upthread it is stated that the tariffs under the new/different legislation process are in addition to the tariffs ruled unconstitutional.

    I guess we'll know for sure when the promised Executive Order is published.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,256

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,403

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,767

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    Exactly, you don't need a single GCSE to walk up a driveway and deliver a letter or parcel
    Walk? Walk?
    Obvs those chinese dancing robots will be delivering the mail within my lifetime so maybe this is all moot?

    We're they dancing? The ones I saw, I thought were doing synchronised martial arts moves.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,509
    edited February 20

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?
    51 Senators isn't going to be enough with this President.

    Is it 60 or 67 that they need to convict on impeachment?
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 1,017
    edited February 20

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    I’ve noted before that recruitment seems to be broken -

    - employers complain of not getting candidates, hundreds of fake CVs, people who do turn up seem to be extremely low quality. I’ve seen this, when trying to recruit. And not for small money.
    - Candidates complain of fake job adverts, sending hundreds of applications, no replies.
    Truly inexplicable given the incredibly high calibre of people who work in HR and recruitment and the magnificent simplicity of the typical ATS.

    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    It seems Pelicot was not as unusual as we thought:

    Stockport:

    BBC News - Man charged with raping unconscious wife with other men for years - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxde27ep5qo?app-referrer=deep-link

    And in Swindon:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jan/23/philip-young-former-tory-councillor-pleads-guilty-drugging-raping-wife?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    Was anything like this happening before the internet?


    Note the ages of the accused: 28 - 73.

    Given that the site used by Mr Pelicot was up for 6 years before the French authorities closed it down and that before that trial they found 70,000 men in chat rooms sharing information on how to drug their wives and recruit men to rape them, no-one with any sense could possibly have thought this was unusual. Drugged/sleeping women is a whole porn category.

    Quite why so many men want to have sex (I am using that term very loosely) with an inert body baffles me. Surely a w**k is more enjoyable than quasi-necrophilia?

    And to answer your question, yes, men have used drugs or alcohol to get women insensible or comatose before raping them. Though probably not on the scale we are now seeing.

    Gisele Pelicot has found love again. Remarkable that she is able to trust a man after what happened to her. Her Newsnight interview is well worth watching. Shame must indeed change sides.
    Can I, as a man, put my head above the parapet and say that I totally agree with you. For me sex is a two-way experience of enjoyment. Or at least ought to be!
    Agreed. But more basic than that.

    If consent is not or cannot be given then it is rape. Plain and simple. I can conceive of no situations or exceptions where this is not the case.
    A demented couple in a care home, previously happily married for 50 years.

    (As it happens the law takes the no exceptions whatsoever view aiui so splits them up, which to me seems deeply sad).
    Within that 50 years there will have been instances when the husband wanted sex and the wife did not (and vice versa). If the husband forced himself on the wife that would be rape. Once they are in the home and she can no longer give consent then the same rule applies.

    That said, as a separate issue, I agree it is sad that they are split up.
    Yes, I understand it is the rule that a demented person can under no circumstances consent. I happen to believe it's not quite as simple as that and my suspicion is that most long term married couples who discuss this as a hypothetical will agree. Although the real tragedy isn't so much sex as the cut off of physical intimacy.

    (It is a heck of a corner case of course)
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,403
    edited February 20

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,364

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?
    51 Senators isn't going to be enough with this President.

    Is it 60 or 67 that they need to convict on impeachment?
    Pretty sure it takes two thirds, and even with an optimistic view of how many the Dems might win and the possibility of a few Romney type GOP emerging, there's just no way they get to that under any circumstances.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 21,995
    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    I would be astonished if there was not one unemployed person in Horsham right now who could do the job.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,455

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    it's certainly not millions - NEETship is only about 15% at the moment, about 600k inactive, 350k unemployed.

    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06705/#:~:text=946,000 people aged 16-24,people in this age group.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,509
    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    Also, if the unemployed in Horsham have degrees in computer science, and are being knocked back for computer science related jobs, will the royal mail necessarily take their applications seriously if they do apply?

    They might assume it would be a waste of their time as the CompSci grad will be off to a different job as soon as they're offered one.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,364
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    I would be astonished if there was not one unemployed person in Horsham right now who could do the job.
    Well indeed.
    But it isn't "millions" of young people who could do the job. It's the ones in Horsham.
    I work with dozens of young people in the NE who'd love to get a better paid job and get out of the shithole accomodation they live in.
    They can't afford to.
    Because the economy has been skewed towards keeping housing prices as high as possible for decades.
    And will be for decades to come.
  • nico67 said:

    The last major poll on whether Trump should obey SCOTUS decisions was conducted last October.

    84% of those polled said yes .

    Even if you allow for the further radicalisation of some GOP voters !

    Let’s knock off around 10% then if Trump ignores the ruling things could unravel quickly as that’s still an overwhelming majority for him to obey the court.


    The last thing conservatives in the USA are going to want is for a president to be able to ignore SCOTUS.

    Because if they can do that then having a conservative majority on SCOTUS then loses its value.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,310

    nico67 said:

    The last major poll on whether Trump should obey SCOTUS decisions was conducted last October.

    84% of those polled said yes .

    Even if you allow for the further radicalisation of some GOP voters !

    Let’s knock off around 10% then if Trump ignores the ruling things could unravel quickly as that’s still an overwhelming majority for him to obey the court.


    The last thing conservatives in the USA are going to want is for a president to be able to ignore SCOTUS.

    Because if they can do that then having a conservative majority on SCOTUS then loses its value.
    So...

    That's true of conservatives in general. But it's not true of the President, Donald J Trump.

    And there are an awful lot of Republicans who are not so much conservatives as supporters of the President.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,059
    The G&D poll is very interesting. I think it's encouraging for all three parties really. Greens because they're leading, Labour because they're not out, and Reform because the left vote is not coalescing, so they can still come through the middle.

    Two of the three parties, Reform and Labour, are (I think) likely to be a bit underreported, because Labour are shit and embarrassing (why would you tell a pollster you are voting for them?), and Reform are socially unacceptable. That makes the Green lead potentially even narrower.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,256
    rcs1000 said:

    nico67 said:

    The last major poll on whether Trump should obey SCOTUS decisions was conducted last October.

    84% of those polled said yes .

    Even if you allow for the further radicalisation of some GOP voters !

    Let’s knock off around 10% then if Trump ignores the ruling things could unravel quickly as that’s still an overwhelming majority for him to obey the court.


    The last thing conservatives in the USA are going to want is for a president to be able to ignore SCOTUS.

    Because if they can do that then having a conservative majority on SCOTUS then loses its value.
    So...

    That's true of conservatives in general. But it's not true of the President, Donald J Trump.

    And there are an awful lot of Republicans who are not so much conservatives as supporters of the President.
    There are virtually no conservatives left in GOP.
  • rcs1000 said:

    nico67 said:

    The last major poll on whether Trump should obey SCOTUS decisions was conducted last October.

    84% of those polled said yes .

    Even if you allow for the further radicalisation of some GOP voters !

    Let’s knock off around 10% then if Trump ignores the ruling things could unravel quickly as that’s still an overwhelming majority for him to obey the court.


    The last thing conservatives in the USA are going to want is for a president to be able to ignore SCOTUS.

    Because if they can do that then having a conservative majority on SCOTUS then loses its value.
    So...

    That's true of conservatives in general. But it's not true of the President, Donald J Trump.

    And there are an awful lot of Republicans who are not so much conservatives as supporters of the President.
    And there are an awful lor of Republicans who are not so much supporters of the President as conservatives.

    Do you see the problem for the GOP ?

    Split parties tend to struggle in elections and unified parties are required in a 50/50 congress.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,403
    edited February 20

    The G&D poll is very interesting. I think it's encouraging for all three parties really. Greens because they're leading, Labour because they're not out, and Reform because the left vote is not coalescing, so they can still come through the middle.

    Two of the three parties, Reform and Labour, are (I think) likely to be a bit underreported, because Labour are shit and embarrassing (why would you tell a pollster you are voting for them?), and Reform are socially unacceptable. That makes the Green lead potentially even narrower.

    I'm wondering about lumping in on a Labour win for that very reason. And that the Green demographic doesn't traditionally vote.
    It's a value loser on the current odds.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,256
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    it's certainly not millions - NEETship is only about 15% at the moment, about 600k inactive, 350k unemployed.

    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06705/#:~:text=946,000 people aged 16-24,people in this age group.
    Ok. I'm so old that when I think of young people it is those under 40. LOL.

    However, a glance at stats shows 1270 unemployed of all ages in Horsham last month.

    Surely 18 of those can walk and post a letter?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,918

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    I would be astonished if there was not one unemployed person in Horsham right now who could do the job.
    Conveniently the HoC publish unemployment by constituency data.

    In December there were 1,270 claiming unemployment benefit in Horsham constituency with 240 being 18-24:

    https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8748/CBP-8748.pdf

    The official LFS number for unemployed would be about 15% higher.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,310
    dixiedean said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
    In the (unlikely) event that the Dems were to sweep both houses of Congress, then I don't think that would happen. As attempting to ignore the voters would be a case of "Go directly to Civil War, do not pass Go".

    More risky, I suspect, is a situation where there is massive voter suppression.

    But that's tough: because you need to do a lot of suppressing if the vote is anything other than extremely close.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,059
    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
    In the (unlikely) event that the Dems were to sweep both houses of Congress, then I don't think that would happen. As attempting to ignore the voters would be a case of "Go directly to Civil War, do not pass Go".

    More risky, I suspect, is a situation where there is massive voter suppression.

    But that's tough: because you need to do a lot of suppressing if the vote is anything other than extremely close.
    I expect voters to come out in numbers to make any attempt at a steal look pitiful.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,256
    Whatever your views on this either way the bit towards the end where the young copper says 'yeh, but he's not in your home' is class.

    Promote her forthwith.


    ====


    Darren Grimes
    @darrengrimes

    “This is Whitechapel. This is a Muslim area.”

    Listen to the sheer, breathtaking entitlement. A mob of blokes surrounding a lone female police officer on a British street, demanding she act as their personal blasphemy enforcer because someone dared to offend their religion.

    It’s almost like Sir Jim Ratcliffe had a point?

    https://x.com/darrengrimes/status/2024956937322877408
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,456
    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
    In the (unlikely) event that the Dems were to sweep both houses of Congress, then I don't think that would happen. As attempting to ignore the voters would be a case of "Go directly to Civil War, do not pass Go".

    More risky, I suspect, is a situation where there is massive voter suppression.

    But that's tough: because you need to do a lot of suppressing if the vote is anything other than extremely close.
    Also existing levels of suppression are already baked into the system, so any swing is over and above that.

    More likely the bigger problem is the Senate. Only a third up for grabs in the first place, and that third is not very pretty to the Democrats.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,456
    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,367
    edited 1:35AM
    I didn't realise how direct the connections to LFI were in the french murder case:

    "The seven suspects now charged in connection with the killing were all members of, or close to, an organisation called La Jeune Garde (The Young Guard) which used to provide security for LFI before it was banned last year.

    One of the suspects – Jacques-Elie Favrot – was the salaried parliamentary assistant of an LFI deputy, Raphaël Arnault, who set up The Young Guard in 2018."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv61zv534eo

    You can set up an organisation which is then banned and continue employing one of them after it's banned and still survive as an MP...
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,101

    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.

    Do you think they are put off by what happened when the government in Iraq was decapitated? It was for a long time a mess that was extremely unpopular with voters, wasn’t it?

    Would we not have a situation where civilians would try to flee our attack on Iran through the mountains into Iraq, but find Kurds coming the other way as ISIS Deash are slaughtering the Kurds at the same time?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,456

    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.

    Do you think they are put off by what happened when the government in Iraq was decapitated? It was for a long time a mess that was extremely unpopular with voters, wasn’t it?

    Would we not have a situation where civilians would try to flee our attack on Iran through the mountains into Iraq, but find Kurds coming the other way as ISIS Deash are slaughtering the Kurds at the same time?
    Perhaps they are put off by that, which is a shame. Chickens.

    Iraq post Hussein is far better than Iran under the Ayatollah. If that is the worst that can happen, its a huge improvement.

    I would rather have neocons than convicted cons in the White House.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,690
    edited 1:54AM
    carnforth said:

    I didn't realise how direct the connections to LFI were in the french murder case:

    "The seven suspects now charged in connection with the killing were all members of, or close to, an organisation called La Jeune Garde (The Young Guard) which used to provide security for LFI before it was banned last year.

    One of the suspects – Jacques-Elie Favrot – was the salaried parliamentary assistant of an LFI deputy, Raphaël Arnault, who set up The Young Guard in 2018."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv61zv534eo

    You can set up an organisation which is then banned and continue employing one of them after it's banned and still survive as an MP...

    This incident also exposed how much Macron and Meloni dislike each other. After Macron basically told her to mind her own business, she reminded him about France's history of helping the Red Brigades escape Italian justice for decades.

    Maybe France is heading for its own 'years of lead'.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/giorgia-meloni-hits-back-emmanuel-macron-new-spat-killing-of-far-right-activist/
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,310

    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
    In the (unlikely) event that the Dems were to sweep both houses of Congress, then I don't think that would happen. As attempting to ignore the voters would be a case of "Go directly to Civil War, do not pass Go".

    More risky, I suspect, is a situation where there is massive voter suppression.

    But that's tough: because you need to do a lot of suppressing if the vote is anything other than extremely close.
    Also existing levels of suppression are already baked into the system, so any swing is over and above that.

    More likely the bigger problem is the Senate. Only a third up for grabs in the first place, and that third is not very pretty to the Democrats.
    Indeed:

    That said... the Republicans seem likely to select Ken Paxton as their Senatorial candidate for Texas.

    So, it's far from impossible that the Democrats do actually regain control of the Senate in November.

    Alaska - could be
    Texas - could be
    Iowa - unlikely but possible
    Ohio - unlikely but possible
    North Carolina - likely flip
    Maine - nailed on flip

    Florida could also go Blue if it's a really good night for the Democrats.

  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,456
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    dixiedean said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Neal Katyal: "I was able to go to court -- the son of immigrants -- and say on behalf of American small businesses, 'Hey, this president is acting illegally.' I was able to present my case, have them ask really hard questions, and at the end of it they voted and we won. That is something extraordinary about this country."

    "We have a system that self-corrects"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2024955825916162140

    ===

    Yep. And you are about to throw it away unless the midterms are a rout for Dems.

    The President has placed himself above the law as determined by the Supreme Court, so how is the US system going to self-correct that?
    Possibly by a blue wave giving Dems both houses of congress?

    Which will be ignored. Even if they don't fix it well enough.
    They'll simply not swear in the new members.
    In the (unlikely) event that the Dems were to sweep both houses of Congress, then I don't think that would happen. As attempting to ignore the voters would be a case of "Go directly to Civil War, do not pass Go".

    More risky, I suspect, is a situation where there is massive voter suppression.

    But that's tough: because you need to do a lot of suppressing if the vote is anything other than extremely close.
    Also existing levels of suppression are already baked into the system, so any swing is over and above that.

    More likely the bigger problem is the Senate. Only a third up for grabs in the first place, and that third is not very pretty to the Democrats.
    Indeed:

    That said... the Republicans seem likely to select Ken Paxton as their Senatorial candidate for Texas.

    So, it's far from impossible that the Democrats do actually regain control of the Senate in November.

    Alaska - could be
    Texas - could be
    Iowa - unlikely but possible
    Ohio - unlikely but possible
    North Carolina - likely flip
    Maine - nailed on flip

    Florida could also go Blue if it's a really good night for the Democrats.

    NC and Maine are onky two probables there for me.

    Texas is one of those regularly spoken about but never even comes close.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,180

    Whatever your views on this either way the bit towards the end where the young copper says 'yeh, but he's not in your home' is class.

    Promote her forthwith.


    ====


    Darren Grimes
    @darrengrimes

    “This is Whitechapel. This is a Muslim area.”

    Listen to the sheer, breathtaking entitlement. A mob of blokes surrounding a lone female police officer on a British street, demanding she act as their personal blasphemy enforcer because someone dared to offend their religion.

    It’s almost like Sir Jim Ratcliffe had a point?

    https://x.com/darrengrimes/status/2024956937322877408

    Grimes is poison. Why is anyone posting his shit?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,690
    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/2025034807890371041

    Overnight, Ukraine carried out its deepest successful cruise missile strike of the war, hitting Russia's Votkinsky Plant, a ballistic missile manufacturer located almost 900 miles behind the front line.

    Seen here, a salvo of Ukrainian Flamingo cruise missiles headed into Russia.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,075
    edited 5:08AM

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    It could not be clearer to Congress that they need to impeach and convict Trump and remove him from office. The President has a clear constitutional duty to enforce the law, which means immediately rescinding tariffs that the Supreme Court has ruled are unconstitutional.

    There's no wriggle room or interpretation possible there.
    Technically the SC actually said whether the tariffs stand is a matter for Congress, so if Congress vote to keep them they stand
    Is Congress in session tonight rushing a Bill through to keep the tariffs in place?
    No?
    Then the tariffs have to go.
    No, as he's using a different authority to impose them - not the International Emergency Economic Powers Act but Section 301 of the Trade Act 1974. So I imagine it'll be another year as they are tested as the case makes its slow way up to the Supreme Court. Then if those fail, which is by no means certain, he'll probably try Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974 and Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930.

    So I'm afraid there's plenty of road left in this particular act of economic illiteracy.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,339
    Worth a read:

    Drawing on more than 100 interviews with senior intelligence officials and other insiders in multiple countries, this exclusive account details how the US and Britain uncovered Vladimir Putin’s plans to invade, and why most of Europe – including the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy – dismissed them. As the fourth anniversary of the invasion approaches and the world enters a new period of geopolitical uncertainty, Europe’s politicians and spy services continue to draw lessons from the failures of 2022

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2026/feb/20/a-war-foretold-cia-mi6-putin-ukraine-plans-russia
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,310
    Trump's greatest skill is to get people to go out and lie for him, and to trash their own reputations.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,545
    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: backed Hamilton at 16 each way in Australia, mentioned here a day or two ago, now down to 7 (without boost). Lots of people seem to think Ferrari and Mercedes are the top two, but we'll only find out when things actually get cooking.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 650

    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.

    The regime change that's needed first to prevent far more deaths and to ensure far greater peace and stability is in Israel.

    Take Netanyahu out, and the more moderate Arab nations would be far more amenable and resistant to outsiders acting against the Ayotollahs. The spectre of Netanyahu and his blind uber Zioist aggression and mass murder is a far more immediate and serious issue.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733
    Brixian59 said:

    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.

    The regime change that's needed first to prevent far more deaths and to ensure far greater peace and stability is in Israel.

    Take Netanyahu out, and the more moderate Arab nations would be far more amenable and resistant to outsiders acting against the Ayotollahs. The spectre of Netanyahu and his blind uber Zioist aggression and mass murder is a far more immediate and serious issue.
    Other way around. The Arab states tacitly support Netanyahu because they hate the Iranians much more than him. It's the Iranians that sponsor Hizbollah, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Houthis, etc., not Israel (apart from Netanyahu's tacit support for Iranian smuggling of money and arms to Hamas, which is because he's a moronic crook rather than a sponsor of state terrorism).

    If the Ayatollahs were taken out, which would eliminate those organisations rather rapidly, it would actually become more difficult for Netanyahu to cling on to office, as his whole schtick is he's the 'strong man' needed to protect Israel (admittedly, that's as unconvincing as Trump's claims not to be a friend of Epstein or a Post Office solicitor's claims to have followed due process).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,521
    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,678
    I see that Trump murdered 3 more people overnight to prove what a hard man he is, despite the Court. I suppose we should be thankful it was not worse. Yet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,678
    IanB2 said:

    Worth a read:

    Drawing on more than 100 interviews with senior intelligence officials and other insiders in multiple countries, this exclusive account details how the US and Britain uncovered Vladimir Putin’s plans to invade, and why most of Europe – including the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy – dismissed them. As the fourth anniversary of the invasion approaches and the world enters a new period of geopolitical uncertainty, Europe’s politicians and spy services continue to draw lessons from the failures of 2022

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2026/feb/20/a-war-foretold-cia-mi6-putin-ukraine-plans-russia

    It's really hard to get your head around someone doing something so stupid as to attack a medium sized country with no clear game plan as to how to resolve the issue, what you want next and how you hope to gain from it, even putting aside the morality of killing large numbers of people just to make a point and show how macho you are. This applies equally to Iran as well as Ukraine, of course.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733
    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    dixiedean said:
    DavidL said:

    I see that Trump murdered 3 more people overnight to prove what a hard man he is, despite the Court. I suppose we should be thankful it was not worse. Yet.

    Hmmm.

    I wonder if 2 and 3 had any bearing on 1?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,678
    dixiedean said:
    A conclusion we had already come to.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733
    DavidL said:

    IanB2 said:

    Worth a read:

    Drawing on more than 100 interviews with senior intelligence officials and other insiders in multiple countries, this exclusive account details how the US and Britain uncovered Vladimir Putin’s plans to invade, and why most of Europe – including the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy – dismissed them. As the fourth anniversary of the invasion approaches and the world enters a new period of geopolitical uncertainty, Europe’s politicians and spy services continue to draw lessons from the failures of 2022

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2026/feb/20/a-war-foretold-cia-mi6-putin-ukraine-plans-russia

    It's really hard to get your head around someone doing something so stupid as to attack a medium sized country with no clear game plan as to how to resolve the issue, what you want next and how you hope to gain from it, even putting aside the morality of killing large numbers of people just to make a point and show how macho you are. This applies equally to Iran as well as Ukraine, of course.
    What was it Johnson's last SecDef asked on coming into office? 'What is our plan to win this war?'

    And his comment: 'Turns out there wasn't one.'

    https://youtu.be/6s0Z2mwTrXY?si=IIdExixVlSVHDC6_&t=2529
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,678

    https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/2025034807890371041

    Overnight, Ukraine carried out its deepest successful cruise missile strike of the war, hitting Russia's Votkinsky Plant, a ballistic missile manufacturer located almost 900 miles behind the front line.

    Seen here, a salvo of Ukrainian Flamingo cruise missiles headed into Russia.

    The refusal of Trump (and, in fairness Biden) to give them Tomahawk cruise missiles has proven to be a fairly short term impediment. Remember the first year or two of this war when the west leaned on Ukraine not to attack targets in Russia despite the never ending onslaught on them for fear of more widespread Russian retaliation? So long ago. Just a different world.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,922
    Nigelb said:

    Someone has done well out of the SC decision.

    Just so we’re clear… Howard Lutnik is the *architect* of Trump’s tariff plan. He’s the one who pushed Trump on these.

    And at the EXACT SAME TIME that he was doing this, Lutnik’s sons **who he appointed to take over his bank** were betting the tariffs would be struck down and buying up refund rights at $0.25 on the dollar.

    And now the government owes companies refunds… and depending on how many refund slips they are holding, the Lutnik’s bank could make BILLIONS of dollars.

    There’s nothing else I can say about this that won’t catch me a permaban

    https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/2024891488539165000

    Friend of Jeffrey Epstein, Howard Lutnick?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,922
    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    Trump can say what he likes . Any tariffs that are in operation that relied on IEEPA legislation are now invalid . He’s clearly deranged and doesn’t understand the law .

    Under the US Constitution you can’t ignore a SCOTUS decision.
    That’s a more complicated question than you might think, and there is some precedent for ignoring the Supreme Court: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia#Enforcement
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733

    nico67 said:

    Nigelb said:

    The man is a senile loon who cares only about his ego, and nothing about policy other than through that lens.

    "Effective immediately, all national security tariffs remain fully in place and in full force and effect. Today, I will sign an order to impose a 10% global tariff, over and above our normal tariffs already being charged."

    He's decided to just ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2024919338168259013

    Trump can say what he likes . Any tariffs that are in operation that relied on IEEPA legislation are now invalid . He’s clearly deranged and doesn’t understand the law .

    Under the US Constitution you can’t ignore a SCOTUS decision.
    That’s a more complicated question than you might think, and there is some precedent for ignoring the Supreme Court: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia#Enforcement
    Abraham Lincoln did it several times, for example over habeas corpus in Maryland when the Taney court ruled Lincoln's suspension of it was illegal, apparently in the hope Maryland would join the Confederacy.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,585
    Just read about the hundred's issues. Could it ultimately spell the end of the hundred ?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733
    Pulpstar said:

    Just read about the hundred's issues. Could it ultimately spell the end of the hundred ?

    It would be a terrible tragedy if so. Why, think of all the cricket fans it would adversely affect as they died laughing.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,922
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    The DOJ are now just as corrupt as Trump .

    Before the USA started turning into a Banana Republic it would be upto the DOJ to enforce court decisions not ignore them .

    The rule of law is only as good as the enforcement behind it . If that goes then it’s effectively over for the USA as a functioning democracy.

    The spineless GOP are handmaidens to that .

    We’ll see what happens once this ends up at the International Trade Court which will make a decision re refunds etc .

    Not sure that follows, if the GOP majority Congress upholds the tariffs the Supreme Court affirmed they would be constitutional.

    So nothing undemocratic or illegal about that
    The Democrats can block support in the Senate through the filibuster.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,712
    dixiedean said:
    Any chance they could give Las Vegas independence? Just asking......
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,059
    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    I think if it was Pope Francis saying no, it would have had some moral weight. This one is just a plastic Pope.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,922

    The G&D poll is very interesting. I think it's encouraging for all three parties really. Greens because they're leading, Labour because they're not out, and Reform because the left vote is not coalescing, so they can still come through the middle.

    Two of the three parties, Reform and Labour, are (I think) likely to be a bit underreported, because Labour are shit and embarrassing (why would you tell a pollster you are voting for them?), and Reform are socially unacceptable. That makes the Green lead potentially even narrower.

    If the result is the same as the poll, the left vote will not have coalesced, but Reform still lose. The left vote doesn’t have to coalesce much if Reform’s vote has a ceiling.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,521

    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    I think if it was Pope Francis saying no, it would have had some moral weight. This one is just a plastic Pope.
    This one has some political weight

    The first American Pope telling the explicitly Catholic VP to fuck off
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 18,922

    'Trump threatens limited strike against Iran' - limited? What a loser, what's the frigging point. TACO again.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxzk4gvzp0o

    Regime change should be threatened, and acted upon, not a limited strike. Anything that lets the regime survive is pointless.

    Not if the point is to distract from the Epstein files and/or constitutional crisis or to get Iran to send a few tankers of oil to Trump’s personal account.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,981
    It used to be you were just deported from the USA for an error not shackled , confined and treated like a criminal .

    Alot of people still go on holiday there but why would you risk it ?

    If you paid for my flights, hotel and gave me spending money I wouldn’t set foot in the USA under the current administration.


  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,712
    edited 7:50AM

    Whatever your views on this either way the bit towards the end where the young copper says 'yeh, but he's not in your home' is class.

    Promote her forthwith.


    ====


    Darren Grimes
    @darrengrimes

    “This is Whitechapel. This is a Muslim area.”

    Listen to the sheer, breathtaking entitlement. A mob of blokes surrounding a lone female police officer on a British street, demanding she act as their personal blasphemy enforcer because someone dared to offend their religion.

    It’s almost like Sir Jim Ratcliffe had a point?

    https://x.com/darrengrimes/status/2024956937322877408

    There are problems with how we have handled immigration and especially integration for sure. We should do better.

    Integration wasn't Ratcliffes point though, he was making an economic case, which was not only wrong, but got his dates mixed up, used offensive and hyperbolic language and completely ignored the obvious, that he is a tax exile himself freeloading and costing our economy plenty.

    ------

    "You can't have an economy with nine million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in," he said. "I mean, the UK has been colonised. It's costing too much money.

    "The UK has been colonised by immigrants, really, hasn't it? I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people."
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,536

    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    I think if it was Pope Francis saying no, it would have had some moral weight. This one is just a plastic Pope.
    To go with plastic Jesus?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEFhkcOleQ
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,981

    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    I think if it was Pope Francis saying no, it would have had some moral weight. This one is just a plastic Pope.
    How can he be a plastic pope ?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,059

    The G&D poll is very interesting. I think it's encouraging for all three parties really. Greens because they're leading, Labour because they're not out, and Reform because the left vote is not coalescing, so they can still come through the middle.

    Two of the three parties, Reform and Labour, are (I think) likely to be a bit underreported, because Labour are shit and embarrassing (why would you tell a pollster you are voting for them?), and Reform are socially unacceptable. That makes the Green lead potentially even narrower.

    If the result is the same as the poll, the left vote will not have coalesced, but Reform still lose. The left vote doesn’t have to coalesce much if Reform’s vote has a ceiling.
    Well obviously. Our interest leads us to interpret polls differently to the headline VI sometimes though. I'd say this lead is likely to disappear. Labour will have very solid bank of postal voting, and if they're already polling at 27%, it says to me that the Greens haven't been entirely successful in capturing Labour's Muslim vote.

    Reform likewise could 'surprise on the upside' - success is also within their reach, if their are lots of shy Reformers giving 'don't know' or even other parties as their answer.

    The Greens I don't see outstripping their polling, because there's no reason to hide a Green vote on a poll (unless you can think of one), so there are no hidden voters for them. Indeed there are some reasons to just reach for the word 'Green', because you're furious with Labour but not ready to admit publicly that you're voting Reform, or indeed that you're voting Labour even though you know they’re awful.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,878
    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    if there are job vacancies anywhere in the country and they don't take one then benefits should stop immediately. Not for the state to pay for people to chose where and where not they will live. Lazy barstewards.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,536
    Have we done this one? Another Reform to Restore.

    "A Reform UK spokesperson told the Local Democracy Reporting Service (LDRS) Whitford had "betrayed his electors and the mandate he was given in order to become affiliated with a movement that is not even registered with the Electoral Commission".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd03lgmkr70o

    Apart from the irony of complaining about people leaving Reform (bad) but joining Reform (good), there seems to be far more splintering going on. You now have Reformed Tories and Restored Reformers to add to the mix

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,733
    malcolmg said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    if there are job vacancies anywhere in the country and they don't take one then benefits should stop immediately. Not for the state to pay for people to chose where and where not they will live. Lazy barstewards.
    Hmmmm.

    If somebody up your way was offered a job in Dover, but no help with relocation, given the effective death of the affordable rental sector and the disaster that is the housing market I'm not seeing that as entirely equitable.

    If they were offered a job within an hour's bus ride* of where they lived that would be rather different.

    *Approx three miles, in my experience of buses.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,545
    Battlebus said:

    Have we done this one? Another Reform to Restore.

    "A Reform UK spokesperson told the Local Democracy Reporting Service (LDRS) Whitford had "betrayed his electors and the mandate he was given in order to become affiliated with a movement that is not even registered with the Electoral Commission".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd03lgmkr70o

    Apart from the irony of complaining about people leaving Reform (bad) but joining Reform (good), there seems to be far more splintering going on. You now have Reformed Tories and Restored Reformers to add to the mix

    It's the Renewed Returners I worry about.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,059

    Scott_xP said:

    JD Vance flew to Rome to hand deliver to the first American Pope an invitation to the 250th Anniversary celebrations in the US later this year

    The Pope said no

    I think if it was Pope Francis saying no, it would have had some moral weight. This one is just a plastic Pope.
    You get the Pope the Cardinals give you.

    This one is still The Pope.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,712
    ydoethur said:

    malcolmg said:

    dixiedean said:

    HYUFD said:

    AnneJGP said:

    HYUFD said:

    Just seen Royal Mail trying to cut Sat deliveries for non 1st class post.
    Meanwhile my postman confirmed there were no deliveries on my round on one day this week Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled and if a round doesn't happen its cheaper to.pay the fine than deliver the post.

    Something is v wrong if this is true

    If you can't be bothered to pay for a first class stamp why should you expect to see your letter or parcel delivered on a Saturday?
    I normally use 1st class stamps but letters posted in this neck of the woods usually take about a week to be delivered.
    So still can be delivered within the week on a Saturday then if sent first class
    "Horsham has 18 vacancies that cannot be filled"

    And yet millions of young people are sat on the sofa without work or education.

    But there are two further questions.
    Are those unemployed in Horsham?
    And, if not, can they afford to move to Horsham and live there?
    Bear in mind their salaries will need to cover their moving costs.
    Plus a premium for cutting off their friends and family support network.
    if there are job vacancies anywhere in the country and they don't take one then benefits should stop immediately. Not for the state to pay for people to chose where and where not they will live. Lazy barstewards.
    Hmmmm.

    If somebody up your way was offered a job in Dover, but no help with relocation, given the effective death of the affordable rental sector and the disaster that is the housing market I'm not seeing that as entirely equitable.

    If they were offered a job within an hour's bus ride* of where they lived that would be rather different.

    *Approx three miles, in my experience of buses.
    Cheat code. Live somewhere without a bus service, stay at home and post on pb all day instead of this work malarkey.
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