I'm not sure how that works when it is possible for people to have children into their 50s or 60s or 70s.
A long while back a distinguished doctor got hammered for making a similar point about birth vs age - might have been during the Coalition years.
There was the usual “lynch him” thing from various groups.
I recall being struck by an interview the chap did on TV - he was saying he had women over 50 wanting children and he was having to explain the risks. The lady presenter was taking the line of “it might be true, but you can’t say that…”
Then I realised the connection between the age of the presenter and the subject matter. And I felt sad.
That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
Does it ?
From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.
He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
There is an argument for saying that many women who are planning to have a family, should plan to do it earlier.
It's a good argument. However it is not one that attracts three groups of people, namely
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
How many of the Jewish community have been arrested for plots to attack “other communities”?
One of the first suicide bombers was an American called Baruch Goldstein who killed 28 in a Mosque. His grave was still being celebrated until 2016 when it was made illegal.
Subsequently we've had Ariel Sharon particularly known for his slaughter in the Refugee Camps of Sabra and Shatila. Nearly all unarmed women and children. And then of course Benjamin Netanyahu who knocks just about everyone into the shade. 25,000 unarmed children. His rampage started quite recently
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Steve Ovett would be better. He might actually do something.
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
A bit past it. He's older than me.
David Beckham?
Congratulations! You have won the prize for the worst suggestion of all time on PB. The judges have decided that its unfathomably unlikely that anyone could beat your lack of wisdom and have decided to award the prize to you now, rather than (as had been anticipated) the end of time.
That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
Does it ?
From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.
He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
Didn't Matt Goodwin* have his first child at age 39 then later get divorced?
*fingers crossed that the nickname "Matt Badloss" gets stuck on him in 2 weeks time.
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
Seems Epstein scandal is now here in Wales
Welsh market town named in newly released Epstein files
All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.
I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.
The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.
The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.
Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
I nearly always find myself defending him, so it's refreshing to be on the other side. He's poor because he does all sorts of crap that means nothing, divides communities, and costs money.
Look at the rebranding of the surface lines. Simply him forcing misplaced ideology. And it's just so embarrassing.
Khan has been very poor.
rebranding? branding surely - would you be happier if we had a Prince Andrew line?
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Surely the sensible thing is for people to be guided by their lawyers? Unless they are extradited there has to be a good case that it's safer to stay at home? I don't see why politics should over-rule what's best for the individual.
That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
Does it ?
From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.
He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
Didn't Matt Goodwin* have his first child at age 39 then later get divorced?
*fingers crossed that the nickname "Matt Badloss" gets stuck on him in 2 weeks time.
I don’t know but if you’re curious as to his overactive loins Google may be able to help.
All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.
I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.
The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.
The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.
Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
I nearly always find myself defending him, so it's refreshing to be on the other side. He's poor because he does all sorts of crap that means nothing, divides communities, and costs money.
Look at the rebranding of the surface lines. Simply him forcing misplaced ideology. And it's just so embarrassing.
Khan has been very poor.
rebranding? branding surely - would you be happier if we had a Prince Andrew line?
Just call it the Camden line, or the Docks line or whatever.
((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 24m Sources in several parties starting to point to some strange betting patterns around Gorton and Denton. Greens odds have been shortening all week. But that's not reflecting what anyone is picking up on the ground.
Are they strange or are they just reflective of different populations?
Two new parties with no canvassing data; two (at least) culturally different semi-seats welded together. On-the-ground gossip could mean anything or nothing.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.
I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.
The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.
The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.
Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
Boris has Ken's bikes. It was a Livingstone scheme (and he'd borrowed the idea from Paris iirc). Boris had the bridge, the airport, illegal water cannons and some closed fire stations. Both men had their own type of bad buses.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He should be pretty quick at delivering leaflets though letterboxes. How about a race between Seb and Blanche?
((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 24m Sources in several parties starting to point to some strange betting patterns around Gorton and Denton. Greens odds have been shortening all week. But that's not reflecting what anyone is picking up on the ground.
Are they strange or are they just reflective of different populations?
Two new parties with no canvassing data; two (at least) culturally different semi-seats welded together. On-the-ground gossip could mean anything or nothing.
It looks like someone has even had a couple of quid on the no-hopers: Advance UK; Workers (Galloway iirc); Conservative and LibDem are now in the 100 to 300 range on Betfair, in from 1000; and 400-800 to lay.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Steve Ovett would be better. He might actually do something.
He'd explode with activity. But he'd leave it until the very last few days of his term.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Steve Ovett would be better. He might actually do something.
He'd explode with activity. But he'd leave it until the very last few days of his term.
All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.
I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.
The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.
The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.
Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
I nearly always find myself defending him, so it's refreshing to be on the other side. He's poor because he does all sorts of crap that means nothing, divides communities, and costs money.
Look at the rebranding of the surface lines. Simply him forcing misplaced ideology. And it's just so embarrassing.
Khan has been very poor.
I don't disagree that has been pointless and wasteful - some of the historical references are worthy of further explanation ans represent not just London's history but that of Britain too.
It's a hard one for me to call but I have a sense the cultural, demographic and socio-economic divide between London and the rest of England has widened in the past 20 years and Khan's actions may be part of that.
The other interesting aspect is the "division" between Inner and Outer London. Like many other cities, the inner area is evolving to be a place of and for the young while the outskirts suit older people better.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Steve Ovett would be better. He might actually do something.
He'd explode with activity. But he'd leave it until the very last few days of his term.
You mean Cram?
Ovett especially. Although the arch exponent was probably Dave "the throttle" Wottle.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
To be fair, one would hope he's in reasonably good physical shape.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
How to win back working class voters who have fled to Farage latest:
Stephen Kinnock @SKinnock · 1h I swapped Westminster for the Chilterns last night, for a lovely visit to Chequers with Helle.
Keir and Vic hosted us and colleagues for a memorable evening - including a visit to the room where Churchill recorded his ‘fight them on the beaches’ speech.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
How to win back working class voters who have fled to Farage latest:
Stephen Kinnock @SKinnock · 1h I swapped Westminster for the Chilterns last night, for a lovely visit to Chequers with Helle.
Keir and Vic hosted us and colleagues for a memorable evening - including a visit to the room where Churchill recorded his ‘fight them on the beaches’ speech.
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
It’s party political stunt about the Democratic Party trying to get some interest from US media and US voters in the Epstein files, it’s not a big story in US.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Coe would be an incredibly sensible choice, so the Tories won't do it.
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
It’s party political stunt about the Democratic Party trying to get some interest from US media and US voters in the Epstein files, it’s not a big story in US.
100% Mandelson does not do it.
He could try and pull an Olly North
Giving testimony under oath and then being tried was judged double jeopardy. So North simply told the truth to the committee - and became virtually unprosecutable.
Could the Mandelbrot pull off a version of that - argue that it was double jeopardy, but in different jurisdictions?
How to win back working class voters who have fled to Farage latest:
Stephen Kinnock @SKinnock · 1h I swapped Westminster for the Chilterns last night, for a lovely visit to Chequers with Helle.
Keir and Vic hosted us and colleagues for a memorable evening - including a visit to the room where Churchill recorded his ‘fight them on the beaches’ speech.
The speech ends: And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
I remember Birmingham losing to Barcelona.
Birmingham was an outstanding bid according to IOC
A new conspiracy theory. The allegations against Michael Jackson were made by Epstein's crowd so a discredited MJ could not expose their depravity. Read the comments:- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ganmKqAbJMA
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
It’s party political stunt about the Democratic Party trying to get some interest from US media and US voters in the Epstein files, it’s not a big story in US.
100% Mandelson does not do it.
He could try and pull an Olly North
Giving testimony under oath and then being tried was judged double jeopardy. So North simply told the truth to the committee - and became virtually unprosecutable.
Could the Mandelbrot pull off a version of that - argue that it was double jeopardy, but in different jurisdictions?
Fi Fi Fo Fum I smell big lawyers fees.
Olly North lied because he thought it was in the interest of his country. Mandelson has and will lie because he admires himself in the mirror.
U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
That is the last thing Starmer needs
He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify
I would expect all opposition parties to support the request
Will Mandelson have much of interest to say to Dem Congresmen? If and when he goes to jail it will be for his treason to Gordon Brown and the United Kingdom.
It’s party political stunt about the Democratic Party trying to get some interest from US media and US voters in the Epstein files, it’s not a big story in US.
100% Mandelson does not do it.
He could try and pull an Olly North
Giving testimony under oath and then being tried was judged double jeopardy. So North simply told the truth to the committee - and became virtually unprosecutable.
Could the Mandelbrot pull off a version of that - argue that it was double jeopardy, but in different jurisdictions?
Fi Fi Fo Fum I smell big lawyers fees.
Does Andy or Mandy have to go there, could they not do it from a bedroom?
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
Steve Ovett would be better. He might actually do something.
He'd explode with activity. But he'd leave it until the very last few days of his term.
You mean Cram?
Sorry, O, yes v clever joke. I wasn't concentrating.
Betfair punters seem to have decided Gorton - Greens now 4/9 odds on.
Reform nowhere.
Is it the excellent candidate choice or just dodgy £ ploughing to rig the market??
I'm convinced it's wealthy Reform backers rigging the market
Lots of well-informed and respected *cough* posters on here said some time ago that Greens are more likely than not to win the seat and ought to be odds-on favourites. It's just the market catching up with that.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
SNP income has been running at about £4.5m a year. So he was, allegedly, taking maybe one percent a year.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
I remember Birmingham losing to Barcelona.
Birmingham was an outstanding bid according to IOC
Barcelona was home of Samnaranch IOC President.
Birmingham had no chance.
The Birmingham and Manchester bids were excrllent, but got no backing from national government, whom presumabky hadn't heard of those cities. When London bid the government threw everything at it.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Yes, but with a RHR of 45. Compared with the average health of the adult population...
Coe is the kind of Conservative who won't rip out London's cycle network, so has a decent chance I reckon.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
SNP income has been running at about £4.5m a year. So he was, allegedly, taking maybe one percent a year.
I was assuming he was on a salary, and any other expenses, petrol etc would have to be justified via receipts? Particularly high end stuff like the new 33k VW Golf, if a decent deposit or finance agreement was needed
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
I remember Birmingham losing to Barcelona.
It was the first time that we met. How can I forget? The moment that you stepped in the room. You took my breath away (ahhhhhhhhhh).
Never really understood the dislike on here for him.
He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.
Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
I quite like the idea of Seb Coe.
One last gig for the old boy.
He'd probably do a good job, but as I suggested, it's largely ceremonial, so why wouldn't he.
Because he will be 71 at the start of a national four year term?
Mayor Seb Coe could bid for the Olympics to come back to London, which would annoy the northern cities hoping to bring the games home.
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
I remember Birmingham losing to Barcelona.
Birmingham was an outstanding bid according to IOC
Barcelona was home of Samnaranch IOC President.
Birmingham had no chance.
The Birmingham and Manchester bids were excrllent, but got no backing from national government, whom presumabky hadn't heard of those cities. When London bid the government threw everything at it.
Not really. The civil service were determined to kill it. They tried to insert themselves into the whole process. They were politely but firmly told to fuck off by the delivery team.
There was a Radio 4 programme where they got the Olympics team back together, where this was disclosed.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
The Indy supporters in the SNP were sidelined after 2014. The Sturgeonites that took over the party didn’t care about the Indyref account. Independence is a distraction from trans, net zero, etc.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
Betfair punters seem to have decided Gorton - Greens now 4/9 odds on.
Reform nowhere.
Is it the excellent candidate choice or just dodgy £ ploughing to rig the market??
I'm convinced it's wealthy Reform backers rigging the market
Lots of well-informed and respected *cough* posters on here said some time ago that Greens are more likely than not to win the seat and ought to be odds-on favourites. It's just the market catching up with that.
I believe that’s true. If there is going to be referendums on Starmer’s government, some places just may not suit Reform to be main challenger to Labour there.
To take it further, if it is or not wealthy Reform backers rigging betting market to rake it in when Reform win, they would need a pretty good ear on the local ground that it’s not close, they do have it in the bag, because this is building up the Green to be Labours main rival in this seat. She is local, making a big deal out of that and the Matty G just arrogantly parachuted in cares not about the constituency.
If my theory is right, referendum on Starmer, rally behind non Labour candidate most likely to beat Labour, then it’s not just betting opportunity on the Green win, but good odds Reform coming nowhere, perhaps distant third.
You will remember where you heard this first on result night?
Just when you thought Starmer was beyond the pale he starts the process of ditching the US and getting closer to Europe. Credit where it's due
Wishful thinking - he will still ride 2 horses at once
Indeed no UK PM has any other choice
As a forced choice other than both, are you personally content to look across the pond these days, or prefer the channel?
Personally I find it a bit odd, 95% we get on Sky and BBC News these days is live feed from USA or talking heads talking about US politics. And we hear nothing about what’s going on next door.
I find it a bit concerning. We are nothing like US in UK, British are more like Germans than Americans. So I worry for British Valuescand culture.
Take Liz Truss as example - is fact she lost her mind down to BBC and Sky feeding her USA news and culture all the time?
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
I suppose we are not a million miles from 24/24/24 and 'guess' on most seats
The peril for Reform is falling behind the Tories. That will take much of the wind from under their wings.
Could be this:
In his Political Thinking podcast interview, Nick Robinson also asked Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, about his claim in 2014 that offering Ukraine membership of the EU would provoke Russia, triggering a war. Farage said that he had been right, and he said it was “odd to get so much abuse for being right”.
When Robinson put it to him that Farage should have been backing those Ukrainiains in 2014 who were in favour of closer links with Europe, because they were standing up for freedom and democracy, Farage did not accept the premise of his question.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
It is utterly bizarre. This is an organisation that is not just audited but has really detailed regulations to comply with in terms of the Political Parties Act to "protect" the organisation from potential corruption. It had a Treasurer signing off the accounts and a committee supposedly to oversee it (although the video of his missus telling everyone to shut up and not ask any questions since the finances were the best they had been does rather come to mind).
I want to emphasise that I have absolutely zero inside knowledge on this matter and have every intention of keeping it that way.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
The Indy supporters in the SNP were sidelined after 2014. The Sturgeonites that took over the party didn’t care about the Indyref account. Independence is a distraction from trans, net zero, etc.
In addition, everyone else at the top of the SNP was being blocked from seeing the party accounts.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
I suppose we are not a million miles from 24/24/24 and 'guess' on most seats
The peril for Reform is falling behind the Tories. That will take much of the wind from under their wings.
Could be this:
In his Political Thinking podcast interview, Nick Robinson also asked Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, about his claim in 2014 that offering Ukraine membership of the EU would provoke Russia, triggering a war. Farage said that he had been right, and he said it was “odd to get so much abuse for being right”.
When Robinson put it to him that Farage should have been backing those Ukrainiains in 2014 who were in favour of closer links with Europe, because they were standing up for freedom and democracy, Farage did not accept the premise of his question.
Whatever the rights or wrongs, R is for Reform-R is for Russia is the most effective attack line people have managed to get to stick.
I think that is a bit obscure, if there is anything that could be classed as a bombshell, it would be hard evidence of Dulwich College racism, or an admission from the man himself.
Personally it's the Dubai/USA style brashness from Reform that I find off-putting
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
The Indy supporters in the SNP were sidelined after 2014. The Sturgeonites that took over the party didn’t care about the Indyref account. Independence is a distraction from trans, net zero, etc.
In addition, everyone else at the top of the SNP was being blocked from seeing the party accounts.
But they are published by the Electoral Commission. Who presumably got false returns indicating that money had been spent in ways that was inaccurate.
Reform out to 2.36 from 2.06 last week for most seats at the next GE
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
So he is accued of embezzling best part of £40k a year. Say £60k a year earnings to generate that.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
I just can’t believe a control freak like Sturgeon didn’t know what her husband was doing.
Be interesting to know if this 450k may have been from the 'ring fenced for indyref 2' account. From the charge sheet it appears Mr Murrell has been accused of taking money over an extended period, 12 years rather than a matter of months. I'm not surprised there were questions asked of the party treasurer, odd if he hadnt noticed any money missing.
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
The Indy supporters in the SNP were sidelined after 2014. The Sturgeonites that took over the party didn’t care about the Indyref account. Independence is a distraction from trans, net zero, etc.
In addition, everyone else at the top of the SNP was being blocked from seeing the party accounts.
But they are published by the Electoral Commission. Who presumably got false returns indicating that money had been spent in ways that was inaccurate.
I honestly have no explanation for any of this, apart from a bunch of money vanished and a number of people behaved in completely inexplicable ways.
It will make a fascinating book - perhaps Robert Harris could write it.
Just when you thought Starmer was beyond the pale he starts the process of ditching the US and getting closer to Europe. Credit where it's due
Wishful thinking - he will still ride 2 horses at once
Indeed no UK PM has any other choice
As a forced choice other than both, are you personally content to look across the pond these days, or prefer the channel?
Personally I find it a bit odd, 95% we get on Sky and BBC News these days is live feed from USA or talking heads talking about US politics. And we hear nothing about what’s going on next door.
I find it a bit concerning. We are nothing like US in UK, British are more like Germans than Americans. So I worry for British Valuescand culture.
Take Liz Truss as example - is fact she lost her mind down to BBC and Sky feeding her USA news and culture all the time?
I remain of the opinion that it should be both
We seem to forget Trump is a passing moment in time but both our trading ties and deep defence ties mean divorce is not a possibility
I see nothing coming out of Europe about just how they can upscale their defences without the US, and on trade much wider groupings are needed than the EU with Canada, Japan, Australia, NZ and South America involvement
At present we have both the UK and French leaders in real political trouble at home, and very few leaders with the foresight and ambition to create a new world order outside the US that exists
One thing they do have that is in the gold medal position is talking and meetings till the cows come home and going round in circles
How to win back working class voters who have fled to Farage latest:
Stephen Kinnock @SKinnock · 1h I swapped Westminster for the Chilterns last night, for a lovely visit to Chequers with Helle.
Keir and Vic hosted us and colleagues for a memorable evening - including a visit to the room where Churchill recorded his ‘fight them on the beaches’ speech.
The speech ends: And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old.
I was cooking earlier, having a chat with my GPT about cooking and stuff. We ended up outlining an 8 part cookery show that was really about engineering presented by me and it, called Dotnet and Chips. I’ll post the summary here if anyone is interested.
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There was the usual “lynch him” thing from various groups.
I recall being struck by an interview the chap did on TV - he was saying he had women over 50 wanting children and he was having to explain the risks. The lady presenter was taking the line of “it might be true, but you can’t say that…”
Then I realised the connection between the age of the presenter and the subject matter. And I felt sad.
- i) women
- ii) voters
- iii) women voters
I realise that's technically speaking only two groups, but I thought it was worth saying thriceOne last gig for the old boy.
Subsequently we've had Ariel Sharon particularly known for his slaughter in the Refugee Camps of Sabra and Shatila. Nearly all unarmed women and children. And then of course Benjamin Netanyahu who knocks just about everyone into the shade. 25,000 unarmed children. His rampage started quite recently
Fletton & Woodston (Peterborough) Council By-Election Result:
➡️ RFM: 29.4% (New)
🌍 GRN: 27.6% (+16.2)
🌳 CON: 21.8% (-11.8)
🌹 LAB: 16.8% (-31.2)
🔶 LDM: 4.4% (-0.7)
No TUSC (-1.9) as previous.
Reform GAIN from Labour.
Changes w/ 2024.
David Beckham?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7erzygx52o
*fingers crossed that the nickname "Matt Badloss" gets stuck on him in 2 weeks time.
🙄
Welsh market town named in newly released Epstein files
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-market-town-named-newly-33421514#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
I have a secondhand BMW that might interest Mr Murrell for twice its list price.
His wife must have thought him VERY lucky on the lottery.
Reform nowhere.
Is it the excellent candidate choice or just dodgy £ ploughing to rig the market??
It's a hard one for me to call but I have a sense the cultural, demographic and socio-economic divide between London and the rest of England has widened in the past 20 years and Khan's actions may be part of that.
The other interesting aspect is the "division" between Inner and Outer London. Like many other cities, the inner area is evolving to be a place of and for the young while the outskirts suit older people better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYQZxfUZp-U
Five minutes from Private Eye. TL/DR; Max Mosley.
Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
New AP-NORC poll:
Trump job approval - 36%
Economy is good - 34%
Country heading in right direction - 29%
Vance approval - 32%
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/2022288337743106497
Older PBers will recall the last northern bid failed and was quickly followed by a successful London bid.
Stephen Kinnock
@SKinnock
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1h
I swapped Westminster for the Chilterns last night, for a lovely visit to Chequers with Helle.
Keir and Vic hosted us and colleagues for a memorable evening - including a visit to the room where Churchill recorded his ‘fight them on the beaches’ speech.
https://x.com/SKinnock/status/2022367714375872733
I imagine Keir then got his violin out and they all listened and watched Aylesbury burn.
100% Mandelson does not do it.
Without it, he loses control of both the House and the Senate on those numbers.
Kemi did say she only joined the Tories for the social life and presumably to find a nice lad.
Rather sums up the image of Young Conservatives.
Giving testimony under oath and then being tried was judged double jeopardy. So North simply told the truth to the committee - and became virtually unprosecutable.
Could the Mandelbrot pull off a version of that - argue that it was double jeopardy, but in different jurisdictions?
Fi Fi Fo Fum I smell big lawyers fees.
The speech ends: And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old.
Obviously pre-Trump!
12 years and no one else in the party noticed?
Barcelona was home of Samnaranch IOC President.
Birmingham had no chance.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ganmKqAbJMA
Green beat Labour into third by just 1 vote, and BJO shouts “VOTE LABOUR GET REFORM.”
Being a newbie poster here, have you asked BJO to explain anything yet?
Political betting markets are having almost as crazy a week as the politicians are. Reform have been favourite to get most seats in the next GE for a very long time and have been roughly 50% for weeks now. A few minutes ago they dipped to 33% and Labour went favourites at 35%!
https://x.com/senseichanning/status/2022346714468995086?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
All bounced back again now. It's extremely volatile and there are definitely people betting their money on something very bad emerging for Reform shortly.
https://x.com/senseichanning/status/2022356241515725174?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Coe is the kind of Conservative who won't rip out London's cycle network, so has a decent chance I reckon.
https://x.com/kevinweil/status/2022388305434939693?s=46
How can I forget?
The moment that you stepped in the room.
You took my breath away (ahhhhhhhhhh).
There was a Radio 4 programme where they got the Olympics team back together, where this was disclosed.
Indeed no UK PM has any other choice
I suppose we are not a million miles from 24/24/24 and 'guess' on most seats
To take it further, if it is or not wealthy Reform backers rigging betting market to rake it in when Reform win, they would need a pretty good ear on the local ground that it’s not close, they do have it in the bag, because this is building up the Green to be Labours main rival in this seat. She is local, making a big deal out of that and the Matty G just arrogantly parachuted in cares not about the constituency.
If my theory is right, referendum on Starmer, rally behind non Labour candidate most likely to beat Labour, then it’s not just betting opportunity on the Green win, but good odds Reform coming nowhere, perhaps distant third.
You will remember where you heard this first on result night?
Personally I find it a bit odd, 95% we get on Sky and BBC News these days is live feed from USA or talking heads talking about US politics. And we hear nothing about what’s going on next door.
I find it a bit concerning. We are nothing like US in UK, British are more like Germans than Americans. So I worry for British Valuescand culture.
Take Liz Truss as example - is fact she lost her mind down to BBC and Sky feeding her USA news and culture all the time?
In his Political Thinking podcast interview, Nick Robinson also asked Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, about his claim in 2014 that offering Ukraine membership of the EU would provoke Russia, triggering a war. Farage said that he had been right, and he said it was “odd to get so much abuse for being right”.
When Robinson put it to him that Farage should have been backing those Ukrainiains in 2014 who were in favour of closer links with Europe, because they were standing up for freedom and democracy, Farage did not accept the premise of his question.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/feb/13/keir-starmer-cabinet-secretary-chris-wormald-labour-badenoch-conservatives-uk-latest-news-updates
Whatever the rights or wrongs, R is for Reform-R is for Russia is the most effective attack line people have managed to get to stick.
I want to emphasise that I have absolutely zero inside knowledge on this matter and have every intention of keeping it that way.
At some point theyll have to move on and realise they havent killed the Tories
Personally it's the Dubai/USA style brashness from Reform that I find off-putting
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/2024/press-release/
It will make a fascinating book - perhaps Robert Harris could write it.
Didn’t have the heart to tell her.
We seem to forget Trump is a passing moment in time but both our trading ties and deep defence ties mean divorce is not a possibility
I see nothing coming out of Europe about just how they can upscale their defences without the US, and on trade much wider groupings are needed than the EU with Canada, Japan, Australia, NZ and South America involvement
At present we have both the UK and French leaders in real political trouble at home, and very few leaders with the foresight and ambition to create a new world order outside the US that exists
One thing they do have that is in the gold medal position is talking and meetings till the cows come home and going round in circles
I was cooking earlier, having a chat with my GPT about cooking and stuff. We ended up outlining an 8 part cookery show that was really about engineering presented by me and it, called Dotnet and Chips. I’ll post the summary here if anyone is interested.