The problem for Starmer is that if Burnham wins his byelection - which I think he will at a canter - then that will give Labour MPs in the Red Wall hope that they can hold off Reform in their seats. IF they trade in the boring London lawyer for the King of the North. The other factor is that Burnham will adopt a more vigorous left wing tax and spend economic policy which could cause politics to revert to economics and away from cultural and immigration issues. Another way of marginalising Reform.
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.
If Burnham wins as an independent, how the flip can he succeed Starmer as Prime Minister?
Because once he is elected, he can take the Labour whip.
And once I have won Wimbledon, I can marry Emma Raducanu.
He's no different to Jenrick. Blind ambition with no talent to back it up.
Both are Cambridge gentlemen, they have considerable talent.
Much to my disappointment, talent played little part in my Cambridge education.
Am I the only PBer to slum it in a red brick dump?
No I was plate glass
Although you did see the light later and joined @Sandpit and I at the greatest University in all the world.
Indeed, Aberystwyth was also alma mater of the King for a term.
Interestingly no King of England or the UK has ever graduated from Oxford, only Cambridge or St Andrews.
Edward VII briefly attended Christ Church Oxford and Trinity Cambridge but graduated from neither
Will that cause @TSE to be insufferably smug about the awesomeness of Cambridge, or incandescent with fury that his beloved Alma mater is associated with royalty?
The former I suspect, he will say Cambridge produces the scientists and more economists and the odd King graduates from there too. Oxford just produces the monarch’s chief bureaucrats and ministers and some lawyers and actors who couldn’t get into Cambridge or Footlights
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.
If Burnham wins as an independent, how the flip can he succeed Starmer as Prime Minister?
Because once he is elected, he can take the Labour whip.
Not though if he has run against a Labour candidate.
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
There’s such a thing as an “All-BAME shortlist”?
I recall that Blair wrote something in the sexism act to exclude political parties and allow them to be sexist, but didn’t realise that had now expanded to racism as well.
Are they seriously proposing discriminating against a candidate bacause of the colour of his skin?
Probably not. I'd want more than an unnamed, out-of-the-loop MP to say so. Three reasons:-
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.
If Burnham wins as an independent, how the flip can he succeed Starmer as Prime Minister?
Because once he is elected, he can take the Labour whip.
Take it from whom?
It’s a privilege granted by the party, not something one can choose.
He's no different to Jenrick. Blind ambition with no talent to back it up.
Both are Cambridge gentlemen, they have considerable talent.
Much to my disappointment, talent played little part in my Cambridge education.
Am I the only PBer to slum it in a red brick dump?
No I was plate glass
Although you did see the light later and joined @Sandpit and I at the greatest University in all the world.
Indeed, Aberystwyth was also alma mater of the King for a term.
Interestingly no King of England or the UK has ever graduated from Oxford, only Cambridge or St Andrews.
Edward VII briefly attended Christ Church Oxford and Trinity Cambridge but graduated from neither
Will that cause @TSE to be insufferably smug about the awesomeness of Cambridge, or incandescent with fury that his beloved Alma mater is associated with royalty?
The former I suspect, he will say Cambridge produces the scientists and more economists and the odd King graduates from there too. Oxford just produces the monarch’s chief bureaucrats and ministers and some lawyers and actors who couldn’t get into Cambridge or Footlights
TSE may have whooshed pb with his subtle references to the Cambridge spy ring.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.
If Burnham wins as an independent, how the flip can he succeed Starmer as Prime Minister?
Because once he is elected, he can take the Labour whip.
And once I have won Wimbledon, I can marry Emma Raducanu.
But neither is happening.
Good call. She seems to have plenty of time on her hands these days to play the dutiful wife role.
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
If Labour were to do that, Burnham would be well advised to run as an Indpendent. And I think he'd find it easier to win too.
If Burnham wins as an independent, how the flip can he succeed Starmer as Prime Minister?
Because once he is elected, he can take the Labour whip.
And once I have won Wimbledon, I can marry Emma Raducanu.
But neither is happening.
Good call. She seems to have plenty of time on her hands these days to play the dutiful wife role.
Given how injury prone she is she probably always has a headache.
If the NEC block Burnham, Starmer is utterly screwed. I think that will lose him significant goodwill in the party, and makes a Streeting or Rayner takeover much more likely post May.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
He's no different to Jenrick. Blind ambition with no talent to back it up.
Both are Cambridge gentlemen, they have considerable talent.
Much to my disappointment, talent played little part in my Cambridge education.
Am I the only PBer to slum it in a red brick dump?
No I was plate glass
Although you did see the light later and joined @Sandpit and I at the greatest University in all the world.
Indeed, Aberystwyth was also alma mater of the King for a term.
Interestingly no King of England or the UK has ever graduated from Oxford, only Cambridge or St Andrews.
Edward VII briefly attended Christ Church Oxford and Trinity Cambridge but graduated from neither
Just a shame you frittered away your student days delivering leaflets all over town for the nationalists, rather than focusing on your studies?
I delivered for the Tories never for Plaid, I also voted for all Tory candidates on the ballot paper but as they only stood four in a six seat council election I voted for one Plaid candidate as well who had bothered to canvass our halls. On principle I always use all my votes
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
There’s such a thing as an “All-BAME shortlist”?
I recall that Blair wrote something in the sexism act to exclude political parties and allow them to be sexist, but didn’t realise that had now expanded to racism as well.
Are they seriously proposing discriminating against a candidate bacause of the colour of his skin?
Probably not. I'd want more than an unnamed, out-of-the-loop MP to say so. Three reasons:-
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
No Burnham but a DEI/EDI all BAME imposed Labour shortlist would be a Farage wet dream scenario for Gorton and targeting its plurality white working class voters
All DEI-shortlists are racist.
Not in this case (see SKS makes up rules to ensure Lab Likud retains control)
Page 47 para d) subclause xxxvii. Commonly known as the keep the commies out rule to be applied to anyone who is left of Genghis (not Sadiq) Khan
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
There’s such a thing as an “All-BAME shortlist”?
I recall that Blair wrote something in the sexism act to exclude political parties and allow them to be sexist, but didn’t realise that had now expanded to racism as well.
Are they seriously proposing discriminating against a candidate bacause of the colour of his skin?
Probably not. I'd want more than an unnamed, out-of-the-loop MP to say so. Three reasons:-
Second, it would be a gift for Kemi as her party's current and previous leader are non-White with no special measures required.
Third, it would be a gift for Reform.
I’ve always liked Kemi since she was first an MP, but one of the things she offers as party leader is that she’s a black woman, because it immediately neutralises all of the lefty woke identitarianism.
Labour can’t possibly do the woke stuff at the election when their opponent is a black woman. They have the potential to come off as massively racist, someone’s going to call her a coconut during the campaign.
If the NEC block Burnham, Starmer is utterly screwed. I think that will lose him significant goodwill in the party, and makes a Streeting or Rayner takeover much more likely post May.
Though Starmer can just say it was an NEC decision. Nonetheless he will have problems, Lammy and Cooper are probably the closest thing to Starmer loyalist candidates now if he resigns before the next general election
If the NEC block Burnham, Starmer is utterly screwed. I think that will lose him significant goodwill in the party, and makes a Streeting or Rayner takeover much more likely post May.
Though Starmer can just say it was an NEC decision. Nonetheless he will have problems, Lammy and Cooper are probably the closest thing to Starmer loyalist candidates now if he resigns before the next general election
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
Not sure why all the excitement about Burnham putting his name forward on this thread.
IMO SKS dominated NEC finds a way, (any way) to stop him being the candidate.
If he is not the candidate King Zack should stand and would have a good chance of winning imo.
If by some miracle Burnham does get to stand he wins and will be PM before the end of 2026.
At that point I would be prepared to vote tactically in a Reform/ Lab seat despite preferring a Green MP
I think you're right, they'll almost certainly block him.
But it still matters that Burnham has forced them into a position where they have to block him and face the consequences, which are going to be toxic for them in terms of the response of most of the Labour membership.
That in turn means that Burnham's endorsement in this Summer's (now nailed on) Labour leadership contest will matter much more than hitherto.
That is bad news for Streeting, and good news for whoever stands against Streeting with Burnham's endorsement.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
There’s such a thing as an “All-BAME shortlist”?
I recall that Blair wrote something in the sexism act to exclude political parties and allow them to be sexist, but didn’t realise that had now expanded to racism as well.
Are they seriously proposing discriminating against a candidate because of the colour of his skin?
In my county a Labour politician quit as they were told they couldn't be the council candidate for their area as it was deemed winnable and was to be an all female shortlist.
They stood as an Indy and won, but the kicker was Labour didn't put up a candidate at all in the end, so either they couldn't find anyone or didn't bother, knowing the vote would split.
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
Jamie Driscoll went on to be a significant part of the Your Party psychodrama, before giving up and joining the Greens.
He's no different to Jenrick. Blind ambition with no talent to back it up.
Both are Cambridge gentlemen, they have considerable talent.
Much to my disappointment, talent played little part in my Cambridge education.
Am I the only PBer to slum it in a red brick dump?
No I was plate glass
Although you did see the light later and joined @Sandpit and I at the greatest University in all the world.
Indeed, Aberystwyth was also alma mater of the King for a term.
Interestingly no King of England or the UK has ever graduated from Oxford, only Cambridge or St Andrews.
Edward VII briefly attended Christ Church Oxford and Trinity Cambridge but graduated from neither
Just a shame you frittered away your student days delivering leaflets all over town for the nationalists, rather than focusing on your studies?
I delivered for the Tories never for Plaid, I also voted for all Tory candidates on the ballot paper but as they only stood four in a six seat council election I voted for one Plaid candidate as well who had bothered to canvass our halls. On principle I always use all my votes
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
Jamie Driscoll went on to be a significant part of the Your Party psychodrama, before giving up and joining the Greens.
Well he also stood as an independent too so he has had a journey.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
Jamie Driscoll went on to be a significant part of the Your Party psychodrama, before giving up and joining the Greens.
Well he also stood as an independent too so he has had a journey.
Your Party is dead in the water.
Is the money still resting in Z`arah Sultana's account?
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
Not sure why all the excitement about Burnham putting his name forward on this thread.
IMO SKS dominated NEC finds a way, (any way) to stop him being the candidate.
If he is not the candidate King Zack should stand and would have a good chance of winning imo.
If by some miracle Burnham does get to stand he wins and will be PM before the end of 2026.
At that point I would be prepared to vote tactically in a Reform/ Lab seat despite preferring a Green MP
I think you're right, they'll almost certainly block him.
But it still matters that Burnham has forced them into a position where they have to block him and face the consequences, which are going to be toxic for them in terms of the response of most of the Labour membership.
That in turn means that Burnham's endorsement in this Summer's (now nailed on) Labour leadership contest will matter much more than hitherto.
That is bad news for Streeting, and good news for whoever stands against Streeting with Burnham's endorsement.
Agree if a contest but I don’t think a Labour contest is nailed on. Whether it is a Tory or Labour leadership contest in the summer largely depends on which of them beats the other for second behind Reform on NEV and seats won in May
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
Pretty much. They aren't technically cops etc, but i doubt that will alter the narrative much.
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
Jamie Driscoll went on to be a significant part of the Your Party psychodrama, before giving up and joining the Greens.
Well he also stood as an independent too so he has had a journey.
Your Party is dead in the water.
Is the money still resting in Z`arah Sultana's account?
The perfect couple. Father Ted and Mother Zarah. Edit: does that make the other perfect couple Father Jack and Saint Jeremy, or Father Dougal and Saint Rachel?
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
Really controversial opinion, Tim Walz is trying to stoke a civil war to detract from the fraud story.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
Or the same level of psychological screening if they repeatedly shot an unarmed (or disarmed) man who had already been overpowered. Panic and pistols don't mix.
More senior ministers purged by Xi, apparently fearing a coup.
Pb's fault for mentioning the night of the long knives. Xi's mistake was making himself leader for life rather than passing the baton after a decade.
It was an interesting system they had for a few decades, swapping out at regular intervals. The desire to be Emperor is a strong one though, but increasingly aged Emperors face difficulties too.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
I've just seen it. It was brutal.
I suppose some of these guys just want the adrenalin rush of blowing someone (anyone) away. Thick as pig shit Oath Keepers and Proud Boys have been given carte blanche immunity to kill for fun.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
Jamie Driscoll went on to be a significant part of the Your Party psychodrama, before giving up and joining the Greens.
Well he also stood as an independent too so he has had a journey.
Your Party is dead in the water.
A bold initiative but couldn't even play nice up to the first conference, hardly a good sign.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
Hasn't Trump by Presidential decree given ICE immunity to fill their boots with as much cruelty as they would like?
You’re allowed to carry a gun in Minnesota . Funny how the 2nd amendment gun nut Trumpists will ignore this .
Everyone can have a gun, therefore everyone can reasonably worry there might be imminent gun violence, therefore everyone can be shot at minor to no provocation.
I wonder if they block Burnham from standing all the people who thought it perfectly fair to block the likes of Jamie Driscoll (they didn’t like his politics after all so it was okay) from standing will agree with this. Or will it be outrageous 🤔
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
Hasn't Trump by Presidential decree given ICE immunity to fill their boots with as much cruelty as they would like?
They’re on a kill bonus ! Things really are unraveling in the USA . Sad for the half of Americans who voted for Kamala and can only watch on in horror .
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?
Yes that’s exactly why there’s the confrontations in Minnesota.
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
Trump seems to be about to achieve the worst of all worlds. He was elected on the premise of non-interference. Which is not necessarily a stupid or unreasonable idea given how inept most US military interference has been in the last sixty years. But does mean scum like Khamanei will quite literally get away with murder.
But now, having decided that doesn't suit him, he will try and interfere. And being Trump, and therefore dim, and American, and therefore bombastic and trigger happy, he will do so only after the protestors have been massacred and the regime is secure anyway, leaving his strikes the emptiest of gesture politics while destabilising the Middle East further.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
You’re allowed to carry a gun in Minnesota . Funny how the 2nd amendment gun nut Trumpists will ignore this .
Everyone can have a gun, therefore everyone can reasonably worry there might be imminent gun violence, therefore everyone can be shot at minor to no provocation.
A recipe for a harmonious and safe society.
Oddly, the constant refrain of gun advocates for the Second Amendment - that it defends against tyranny because any militias acting outside the law can just be shot - isn't being noticeably effective here.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
Yes.
The Nazis were considerably more competent than Trump. They conquered much of Europe. He can't even conquer Venezuela.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
I think it highly unlikely Trump will send murderous thugs like ICE into Texas or Florida to shoot random bystanders. The risk of hitting Republican voters would be too high. Moreover, De Santis and Abbott are his mates.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
Really controversial opinion, Tim Walz is trying to stoke a civil war to detract from the fraud story.
Or, how about this, what about ICE stop shooting unarmed civilians? Oh, and also, stop breaking the constitution and exceeding their allowed powers? And maybe get the Dept of Justice to investigate crimes and not just go after Trump’s personal enemies? (The guy who prosecuted multiple of the fraud cases resigned he was so disgusted at being told to investigate Good’s widow, which shows you how much the Trump administration really cares about the fraud story.)
After everything, how can you still be regurgitating the MAGA line here?
Trump seems to be about to achieve the worst of all worlds. He was elected on the premise of non-interference. Which is not necessarily a stupid or unreasonable idea given how inept most US military interference has been in the last sixty years. But does mean scum like Khamanei will quite literally get away with murder.
But now, having decided that doesn't suit him, he will try and interfere. And being Trump, and therefore dim, and American, and therefore bombastic and trigger happy, he will do so only after the protestors have been massacred and the regime is secure anyway, leaving his strikes the emptiest of gesture politics while destabilising the Middle East further.
The Americans have been waiting for the carrier group to get into position, it’s taken a week or so.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
Yes.
The Nazis were considerably more competent than Trump. They conquered much of Europe. He can't even conquer Venezuela.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?
Yes that’s exactly why there’s the confrontations in Minnesota.
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
That is precisely the point. They've picked a small city and flooded it with armed thugs.
After LA, they obviously realised they needed an order of magnitude larger force to create enough chaos.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
There are many elections to monitor and protect. Mass transfers from ICE to the soon to be announced Elections Integrity Office?
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
I think it highly unlikely Trump will send murderous thugs like ICE into Texas or Florida to shoot random bystanders. The risk of hitting Republican voters would be too high. Moreover, De Santis and Abbott are his mates.
America is a pretty segregated place with races and affiliated voters sticking to certain areas. Would any Republican politico protest if Trump starts raiding the immigrant rich and largely democrat bits of the south?
Nothing to do with Burnham who is of peripheral interest though as I've said it wouldn't surprise me if it goes well for him to see Sadiq Khan reconsider his decision to run in the 2028 London Mayoral election.
Up in East Ham High Street and I love the diversity - at one end of the street, the evangelical Christians were in good voice, half way up the street, the local mosque was giving away copies of the Qu'ran.
At the other end of the street, up by the station, three young well-spoken types were extoling the virtues of the Revolutionary Communist Party. In the interest of wealth re-distribution and pluralism, I purchased a copy of The Communist which is an updated version of the Morning Star (minus the racing selections - the Morning Star had an excellent racing tipster in its heyday). The ten point plan of the RCP is worth further discussion on here - perhaps a thread on its own if I can be bothered.
It's fair to say nationalisation without compensation and extorting assets from billionaires are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the RCP plans. It's also fair to day the RCP aren't big fans of Starmer (which should win them some friends on here).
I was going to suggest to the RCP they go down the road and engage with the evangelicals and the muslims on the issue of the existence of God...
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
I think it highly unlikely Trump will send murderous thugs like ICE into Texas or Florida to shoot random bystanders. The risk of hitting Republican voters would be too high. Moreover, De Santis and Abbott are his mates.
America is a pretty segregated place with races and affiliated voters sticking to certain areas. Would any Republican politico protest if Trump starts raiding the immigrant rich and largely democrat bits of the south?
By that logic, they would not be the 'much angrier places.'
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
After the last killing, the VP said they have "absolute immunity".
That is a very dangerous thing to tell a bunch of barely trained, armed thugs - so arguably he bears some responsibility for this shooting.
Trump seems to be about to achieve the worst of all worlds. He was elected on the premise of non-interference. Which is not necessarily a stupid or unreasonable idea given how inept most US military interference has been in the last sixty years. But does mean scum like Khamanei will quite literally get away with murder.
But now, having decided that doesn't suit him, he will try and interfere. And being Trump, and therefore dim, and American, and therefore bombastic and trigger happy, he will do so only after the protestors have been massacred and the regime is secure anyway, leaving his strikes the emptiest of gesture politics while destabilising the Middle East further.
The Americans have been waiting for the carrier group to get into position, it’s taken a week or so.
Isn't that because the entire f-ing navy was surrounding Venezuela's coast in order to arrest one man?
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?
Yes that’s exactly why there’s the confrontations in Minnesota.
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
After the last killing, the VP said they have "absolute immunity".
Vance also claims to come from a hillbilly poor rural background, to be a loyal American and to be a faithful husband. He is somebody who is either wrong or lying about pretty much everything.
Just want to say thanks to the Labour government, whose rising rates and taxes and general fucking ineptitude have just abruptly closed the St Andrews cafe where my older daughter had a waitressing job she really liked
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
ICE agents are *not* cops. They do not have either the same powers or the same level of presumed immunity.
After the last killing, the VP said they have "absolute immunity".
That is a very dangerous thing to tell a bunch of barely trained, armed thugs - so arguably he bears some responsibility for this shooting.
And to think people thought it was bad when Biden as VP told people to fire a shotgun in the air to ward off intruders.
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
The administration is already briefing (along with a bunch of lies) that it was a justified shooting. Before any investigation at all.
Just want to say thanks to the Labour government, whose rising rates and taxes and general fucking ineptitude have just abruptly closed the St Andrews cafe where my older daughter had a waitressing job she really liked
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
The administration is already briefing (along with a bunch of lies) that it was a justified shooting. Before any investigation at all.
A Labour MP says: “Hearing the all BAME shortlist is the most likely outcome as it stands. So Shabana Mahmood, the representation of Blue Labour within the Cabinet, is going to use her position as Chair of the NEC to impose a DEI process on this parliamentary selection? Insane.”
An error, forced by Burnham.
It seems ominous the number of Cabinet Ministers and well known figures who seem excited by the Return of Burnham. I just saw Ed Milliband and Lucy Powell say how good it would be and we know Angela Rayner is an enthusiast. He's also got quite a few things going for him. Not least the manchester Celebs football and showbiz who he has cultivated
Just want to say thanks to the Labour government, whose rising rates and taxes and general fucking ineptitude have just abruptly closed the St Andrews cafe where my older daughter had a waitressing job she really liked
👏👏👍👍 Rachel and Keir
It’s absolutely crucifying these sort of businesses.
Plenty on social media of pubs and bars and restaurants closing. Not seeing many opening.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
I assume this sort of stuff was predicted when they surged the numbers, they're gaining experience and pushing the envelope on a relatively docile population.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
I think it highly unlikely Trump will send murderous thugs like ICE into Texas or Florida to shoot random bystanders. The risk of hitting Republican voters would be too high. Moreover, De Santis and Abbott are his mates.
America is a pretty segregated place with races and affiliated voters sticking to certain areas. Would any Republican politico protest if Trump starts raiding the immigrant rich and largely democrat bits of the south?
By that logic, they would not be the 'much angrier places.'
I can see the larger Latino communities reacting in stronger terms to this kind of treatment than the much less diverse Minnesotans. Theres fewer migrants in Minnesota per capita than Texas consequently they are a less powerful block.
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
It should be noted that Florida and Texas have ten to fifteen times the number of immigrants that are in Minnesota.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
The sheer numbers sent in to the state seem remarkable. Even in the USA they're not used to that level of armed personnel out and about.
Controversial opinion I know, but why can’t Minnesota do what every other state does and hand over illegals to the Feds straight from the state prison?
I’m not quite sure the point you’re making here. Surely you don’t think that’s why ICE is concentrating on Minnesota?
Yes that’s exactly why there’s the confrontations in Minnesota.
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
Just want to say thanks to the Labour government, whose rising rates and taxes and general fucking ineptitude have just abruptly closed the St Andrews cafe where my older daughter had a waitressing job she really liked
👏👏👍👍 Rachel and Keir
It’s absolutely crucifying these sort of businesses.
Plenty on social media of pubs and bars and restaurants closing. Not seeing many opening.
My fish and chips from the local shop went up by £1.80 in last couple of weeks.
alexmassie@alexmassie·1h Anyone who believes this shouldn’t be trusted with a spoon, let alone anything else. (Burnham’s mere presence in the Commons destabilises the government. That’s why he wants to be in the Commons!)
Robert Peston@Peston Will this promise from Andy Burnham be enough for Starmer loyalists on Labour’s ruling NEC to let him stand in the Gorton and Denton by-election?
Burnham: “I would be there to support the work of the Government, not undermine it, and I have passed on this assurance to the Prime Minister” https://x.com/Peston/status/2015111650752217323
Look at the words. supporting the government is consistent with the belief that the best way to do so is to be the PM. 'Supporting SKS as PM' are the words that have not been said.
Just want to say thanks to the Labour government, whose rising rates and taxes and general fucking ineptitude have just abruptly closed the St Andrews cafe where my older daughter had a waitressing job she really liked
👏👏👍👍 Rachel and Keir
It’s absolutely crucifying these sort of businesses.
Plenty on social media of pubs and bars and restaurants closing. Not seeing many opening.
thought all you thatcherite types wanted zombie businesses to go to the wall so capitalism could do its thang
he was helping a fellow protester, was then pepper sprayed, brought to the ground by several agents then shot repeatedly over and over while on the ground. if this isn’t an inflection point for america, then i don’t think there ever will be one. https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
If a US cop claims to be scared for his life, however irrational, isn't he allowed to blow a suspected bad guy away?
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting. While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
In the UK, any time a policeman kills someone, whatever the circumstances, there is an automatic independent investigation. The Trump administration has blocked any investigation of the ICE officer who shot Renee Good, and told staff to investigate Good and her widow for criminal behaviour instead.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
The administration is already briefing (along with a bunch of lies) that it was a justified shooting. Before any investigation at all.
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The other factor is that Burnham will adopt a more vigorous left wing tax and spend economic policy which could cause politics to revert to economics and away from cultural and immigration issues. Another way of marginalising Reform.
But neither is happening.
First, the test is whether the measure is proportionate (see yesterday's thread) and already about 1 in 6 Labour MPs are from ethnic minorities by some definition or other.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123206/non-white-mps-in-uk-parliament-by-political-party/
Second, it would be a gift for Kemi as her party's current and previous leader are non-White with no special measures required.
Third, it would be a gift for Reform.
https://x.com/chickendaiquiri/status/2015133447426040145
It’s a privilege granted by the party, not something one can choose.
When faced with a choice, always assume the current Labour leadership will make the worst one.
Page 47 para d) subclause xxxvii. Commonly known as the keep the commies out rule to be applied to anyone who is left of Genghis (not Sadiq) Khan
Labour can’t possibly do the woke stuff at the election when their opponent is a black woman. They have the potential to come off as massively racist, someone’s going to call her a coconut during the campaign.
Take a leaf out for the Orkney Harcus’s book and ‘Go for it’
https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2015110544831730020?s=61
https://x.com/jenniferzeng97/status/2015083318925283555
More senior ministers purged by Xi, apparently fearing a coup.
https://x.com/adamscochran/status/2015119306086900170
There was an effort to arrest witnesses and seize their phones after the shooting.
While they made a number of arrests they clearly failed in that effort.
Dept of Homeland Security put out the usual pack of lies.
But it still matters that Burnham has forced them into a position where they have to block him and face the consequences, which are going to be toxic for them in terms of the response of most of the Labour membership.
That in turn means that Burnham's endorsement in this Summer's (now nailed on) Labour leadership contest will matter much more than hitherto.
That is bad news for Streeting, and good news for whoever stands against Streeting with Burnham's endorsement.
All of this is fucking senseless. Minnesota did not have an immigration problem. Trump sent his Nazi thugs here because he's racist against Somali people and to own libs like Tim Walz. Now two Minnesotans are dead and Minneapolis is on the verge of going up in flames. None. Of. This. Was. Necessary.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2015106317464096911
They stood as an Indy and won, but the kicker was Labour didn't put up a candidate at all in the end, so either they couldn't find anyone or didn't bother, knowing the vote would split.
Your Party is dead in the water.
Edit: does that make the other perfect couple Father Jack and Saint Jeremy, or Father Dougal and Saint Rachel?
Really controversial opinion, Tim Walz is trying to stoke a civil war to detract from the fraud story.
I suppose some of these guys just want the adrenalin rush of blowing someone (anyone) away.
Thick as pig shit Oath Keepers and Proud Boys have been given carte blanche immunity to kill for fun.
https://x.com/schizointel/status/2014891814281421140
A recipe for a harmonious and safe society.
In every other state, illegals are handed off to ICE at the prison for deportation. In Tim Walz’s state, they are released from the prison into the community, because sanctuary and loveliness, so the Feds have to send in the heavies to find the criminal aliens.
Trump seems to be about to achieve the worst of all worlds. He was elected on the premise of non-interference. Which is not necessarily a stupid or unreasonable idea given how inept most US military interference has been in the last sixty years. But does mean scum like Khamanei will quite literally get away with murder.
But now, having decided that doesn't suit him, he will try and interfere. And being Trump, and therefore dim, and American, and therefore bombastic and trigger happy, he will do so only after the protestors have been massacred and the regime is secure anyway, leaving his strikes the emptiest of gesture politics while destabilising the Middle East further.
Do people here still think comparisons with 1930s Germany are ludicrous?
The Nazis were considerably more competent than Trump. They conquered much of Europe. He can't even conquer Venezuela.
Trump is blooding in his brown shirts for the repression of much angrier places than Minneapolis.
After everything, how can you still be regurgitating the MAGA line here?
They've picked a small city and flooded it with armed thugs.
After LA, they obviously realised they needed an order of magnitude larger force to create enough chaos.
Nothing to do with Burnham who is of peripheral interest though as I've said it wouldn't surprise me if it goes well for him to see Sadiq Khan reconsider his decision to run in the 2028 London Mayoral election.
Up in East Ham High Street and I love the diversity - at one end of the street, the evangelical Christians were in good voice, half way up the street, the local mosque was giving away copies of the Qu'ran.
At the other end of the street, up by the station, three young well-spoken types were extoling the virtues of the Revolutionary Communist Party. In the interest of wealth re-distribution and pluralism, I purchased a copy of The Communist which is an updated version of the Morning Star (minus the racing selections - the Morning Star had an excellent racing tipster in its heyday). The ten point plan of the RCP is worth further discussion on here - perhaps a thread on its own if I can be bothered.
It's fair to say nationalisation without compensation and extorting assets from billionaires are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the RCP plans. It's also fair to day the RCP aren't big fans of Starmer (which should win them some friends on here).
I was going to suggest to the RCP they go down the road and engage with the evangelicals and the muslims on the issue of the existence of God...
Albeit aided by it being generally accepted wisdom in these parts.
That is a very dangerous thing to tell a bunch of barely trained, armed thugs - so arguably he bears some responsibility for this shooting.
Andy Burnham played a key role in privatising our NHS while serving as Health Secretary.
Andy Burnham voted for the 2003 Iraq War — an illegal invasion that led to the deaths of over a million Iraqis.
Andy Burnham was a member of Labour Friends of Israel, an apartheid state that has committed genocide against the Palestinian people.
Gorton and Denton deserves a genuinely socialist MP — one who doesn’t vote for illegal wars, stands in solidarity with Palestine and is proudly anti-Zionist.
https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2015100780429054292?s=20
Every take is like a 16 year old raging at the world.
👏👏👍👍 Rachel and Keir
Though how me managed to privatise (parts) of the NHS when the Tories have been imminently about to do so my whole life i don't know.
https://x.com/rosieduffield1/status/2015042131979555242
Before any investigation at all.
Here's Trump's batshit post.
Plenty on social media of pubs and bars and restaurants closing. Not seeing many opening.
The third faction will fail to get their papers in on time.
And never once touched his gun.
Madness.
IF #AndyBurnham is the “Labour” candidate to be MP for #GortonDenton I will be the candidate for the #WorkersParty.
It's going to be the left wing Avengers at this by-election.
Here:
https://x.com/NikkiMcR/status/2015140498235638198