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  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    That's not really practical, so very brave of her to even try.

    But you might also want to consider the vet bills for Fido. One reason for the increase is the moving in of big business, taking over practices on the private medical/dental industry model. I know a vet very unhappy with this - very glad to be retired now.

    Lots of people have dumped Rover and Pussy on the RSPCA/SSPCA/etc in recent years because they can't afford aforesaid animals. Or just chuck them out of the car window etc.

    You’ve made a great point. Anecdotal,obvs but I’ve read plenty of people grumbling about the increase in cost of pet insurance recently.

    I’d have tropical fish or an Emperor Scorpion or a Chilean rose hair tarantula but her magnificence objects.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,388
    Eabhal said:

    I see no reductions in house prices in North Wales

    Here you go: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg9y544wx3o

    (I think you actually brought this to PBs attention, funnily enough). I'm pretty sure there are one post codes that have seen bigger drops but I'll revise to 12% until I find that data.
    The interesting bit will be the data when it segmented.

    I wouldn’t be surprised by big falls in less good properties, with increases in other parts of the market, at the same time.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,388

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Vintage Tucker Carlson:

    How I was mauled by a demon whilst asleep in bed, which left me with claw marks. It was nothing to do with the 4 dogs in bed with me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIqoPKNhgo

    Context: dogs are known to run in their sleep:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/goldenretrievers/comments/1frdfln/running_while_sleeping/
    Everything can be true though. It can be true that Carlson was mauled by one of his dogs in their (and his) sleep, but also that in Carlson's dream, this manifested itself as a very real encounter with a demonic presence that clawed at him, that played into a spiritual battle in his life that was real to him. We all have our own truths. Perceptive people see this, and recognise that their own truth is not objective reality, but simply their own experience.
    Sounds like you're looking for another excuse for Trump's behaviour tbh.... when he says he's 'stopped eight wars', or 'prices are coming down' those are his own 'truths'.

    In Carlson's example there is only one truth and I doubt it involved demons.
    Aside from the Fucker, himself?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,203

    The commonest form of animal cruelty in Britain is the practice of snaring fish on barbed hooks for entertainment, tossing them back injured into the water without even the redeeming excuse of cooking. But, of course, it isn't about the animals, it's about the sort of people who hunt them. Just as people without skin in the game actively choose to be outraged about Palestine, so they also choose to get upset about foxes, to the exclusion of all else.

    While there may be people like that, you're generalising too widely - I'm just as opposed to the snaring that you refer to. Basically animal suffering shouldn't be part of a sport. I think you'd find a majority of people of all persuasions would agree.
    Although the burns report found that correctly performed hunting was the best available option.

    Although I still laugh at the concept that being hunted and killed “seriously compromises the welfare of the quarry”
    Many years ago I knew someone who shot foxes for farmers.

    She used a reproduction Sharps rifle and a night vision scope.

    Someone from the local animal sanctuary thing got upset at what that did to the foxes. But it ensured they went to fox heaven instantly or not at all.
    That’s the best way, but it’s very difficult and expensive to do well so there is a risk of wounding instead which just causes a painful and slow death
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,329

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Vintage Tucker Carlson:

    How I was mauled by a demon whilst asleep in bed, which left me with claw marks. It was nothing to do with the 4 dogs in bed with me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIqoPKNhgo

    Context: dogs are known to run in their sleep:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/goldenretrievers/comments/1frdfln/running_while_sleeping/
    Do dogs dream ? Do they go to heaven ?
    They have REM sleep. Surmising, I'd say that is to "process" (whatever that means for Fido) and to recover from the previous period (also, whatever that means).

    I've known cats, and they do things in their sleep.

    Here imo it's about Carlson going to 0.01% explanations over 99.9% explanations, and what has created that state of mind for him. It reminds me of the one or two people I have met over the years who firmly profess that God always intervenes to save a parking space in Central London for them; I have not been able to tell whether they were joking.
    You mean you’ve never heard of the catholic parking prayer?

    Holy Mary, full of grace
    Help me find a parking space
    The charismatic evangelical one can be a little more assertive.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,042
    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Plus I bet that rent is housing association or council.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,004
    HYUFD said:

    Today's "Junior" doctors knew what their salary scales would be when they chose* to apply to med school. What those salary scales were when their parents made that same choice is irrelevant.

    They are on a conveyor belt to six-figure salaries, plus wheelbarrows of cash from private work on the side. They're not exactly queuing at the food bank.


    *Or in some cases, had it drilled into them from the age of 5 that any other degree option would bring disgrace on the family.

    Yes average salary of a partner in a GP practice is now £109,000 per annum,
    https://www.bmj.com/careers/article/the-bmj-s-guide-to-gp-partnerships

    Consultant surgeons earn from £77,913 to £105,042 on average but one surgeon even reported earnings as high as £740,000 a year
    https://universitycompare.com/guides/career/surgeon
    "There is no money left" :lol:
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,203
    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    That's not really practical, so very brave of her to even try.

    But you might also want to consider the vet bills for Fido. One reason for the increase is the moving in of big business, taking over practices on the private medical/dental industry model. I know a vet very unhappy with this - very glad to be retired now.

    Lots of people have dumped Rover and Pussy on the RSPCA/SSPCA/etc in recent years because they can't afford aforesaid animals. Or just chuck them out of the car window etc.

    You’ve made a great point. Anecdotal,obvs but I’ve read plenty of people grumbling about the increase in cost of pet insurance recently.

    I’d have tropical fish or an Emperor Scorpion or a Chilean rose hair tarantula but her magnificence objects.
    I was talking to a Canadian pet pharmaceutical manufacturer recently - the end price that uk pet parents pay for pharmaceuticals is multiple higher than they pay in the US and Canada because of the margin that the clinic companies and distributors take as well as the taxes
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,329
    edited 4:30PM

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,680
    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Oh my God, you posted an image.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,203
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,004
    boulay said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    According to AI, there have been 228 convictions for hunting with dogs since the ban came into force in 2004. 228 convictions in 20 years is a miniscule figure. This is a malicious, despicable ban from an entirely rotten Government.
    It's a subject on which I have no view, Lucky, but the older of my two border collies (pic as per avatar) definitely has.

    She pursued a fox down its hole a couple of months back and got second prize in the ensuing fight.

    It led to a very quiet and thoughtful night in.

    So yes, she opposes the ban.
    I had to dig one of my Jack Russell’s out of a fox hole once. It took me six hours to get to him. My girlfriend at the time thought he would come out if she waved a slab of pate at the hole much to my disbelief.
    "You keep dog food in your fridge???"
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,402

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
    Sit pretty is sitting on their hind legs front paws up. Some think it is a bit cruel and not good for dogs. I have no idea, but we haven't taught our dog to do this.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,582

    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Oh my God, you posted an image.
    One of my best photos of a fox, taken in October on the south bank of the Thames near Greenland Dock, opposite Canary Wharf.





    That one looks like it’s enjoyed a few too many leftover takeaways.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,388
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    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Vintage Tucker Carlson:

    How I was mauled by a demon whilst asleep in bed, which left me with claw marks. It was nothing to do with the 4 dogs in bed with me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDIqoPKNhgo

    Context: dogs are known to run in their sleep:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/goldenretrievers/comments/1frdfln/running_while_sleeping/
    Do dogs dream ? Do they go to heaven ?
    They have REM sleep. Surmising, I'd say that is to "process" (whatever that means for Fido) and to recover from the previous period (also, whatever that means).

    I've known cats, and they do things in their sleep.

    Here imo it's about Carlson going to 0.01% explanations over 99.9% explanations, and what has created that state of mind for him. It reminds me of the one or two people I have met over the years who firmly profess that God always intervenes to save a parking space in Central London for them; I have not been able to tell whether they were joking.
    You mean you’ve never heard of the catholic parking prayer?

    Holy Mary, full of grace
    Help me find a parking space
    The charismatic evangelical one can be a little more assertive.
    Presumably the Wee Free one is for an incredibly awkward parking space on a rain blasted hillside several miles from one’s destination.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,402

    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Oh my God, you posted an image.
    One of my best photos of a fox, taken in October on the south bank of the Thames near Greenland Dock, opposite Canary Wharf.





    I set up wild life cameras. A few years ago, in my compost area, I got a video of a vixen with her cubs feeding from her and her trying to get them interested in a rat.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,908
    carnforth said:
    AW149 is definitely going to win NHM so this wanker is just trying to arm twist the government to get it announced. Probably needs to make his bonus or something.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,197
    edited 5:11PM
    Dura_Ace said:

    Farage is a fox hunting fan so he'll probably bring it back if he makes it to No. 10 so the sadists and their vicariously sadistic supporters can relax.

    Yes, Farage has said Reform will oppose the proposed trail hunting ban today
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2148971/control-freaks-nigel-farage-trail-hunting

    From the Tory side Jenrick has also made clear his opposition 'Generational British pursuits like grouse shooting, deer stalking, and trail hunting are all under siege from a metropolitan class that loathe the countryside way of life. Make no mistake, I will oppose each and every assault on our traditional pursuits.'
    https://www.conservativeruralforum.org.uk/robert-jenricks-rural-statement
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,325

    Tres said:

    kinabalu said:

    Battlebus said:

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    I can see no reason for this except spite.
    In the words of the Labour manifesto 'it is being used as a smokescreen for the hunting of wild animals' and in fairness this is true. There have been so many examples. Only the other week hunt saboteurs recorded exactly this from a drone - clear hunting of a fox.

    The hunts only have themselves to blame for this. It is a shame because a British tradition could have been kept if it had adapted, but they seem incapable of doing so and keeping to the law.
    The original ban was done out of spite too and has made it difficult to keep fox numbers down and protect sheep and livestock and pet rabbits etc
    They should do zoning for fox hunting. Focus on urban areas.

    Plenty of potential demand for hunts here in the South East London suburbs. It seems there’s a fox in every back garden, and another rifling through every food caddy that’s not been tightly clipped shut.

    The height of the walls and fences might be a challenge for the horses though.
    We have to feed ours every night. It's a sort of protection racket they run. If you don't you end up having to pick up their crap in the back garden every morning.
    I used to not mind them but now having a cat it's a slight worry.
    Our cats would chase the foxes out the garden.
    All other things being equal, cats are more than a match for foxes.
    I gather urban foxes are now emboldened to take cats, which they never used to be.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,241
    kjh said:

    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Oh my God, you posted an image.
    One of my best photos of a fox, taken in October on the south bank of the Thames near Greenland Dock, opposite Canary Wharf.





    I set up wild life cameras. A few years ago, in my compost area, I got a video of a vixen with her cubs feeding from her and her trying to get them interested in a rat.
    In our previous home there was a badger sett in the woods at the bottom of the garden. We were visited most nights in the spring, summer and autumn.
    I often regret leaving that house, but it was far, far too big for an elderly couple.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,325
    kjh said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
    Sit pretty is sitting on their hind legs front paws up. Some think it is a bit cruel and not good for dogs. I have no idea, but we haven't taught our dog to do this.
    The most important thing to remember about dog-sitting is to keep the pooch away from water. Otherwise you don't know what evil will befall them.

    David Walliams rescues dog from the River Thames
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-14877856
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,241

    kjh said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
    Sit pretty is sitting on their hind legs front paws up. Some think it is a bit cruel and not good for dogs. I have no idea, but we haven't taught our dog to do this.
    The most important thing to remember about dog-sitting is to keep the pooch away from water. Otherwise you don't know what evil will befall them.

    David Walliams rescues dog from the River Thames
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-14877856
    Walliams isn’t all bad then?
  • isamisam Posts: 43,247

    kjh said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
    Sit pretty is sitting on their hind legs front paws up. Some think it is a bit cruel and not good for dogs. I have no idea, but we haven't taught our dog to do this.
    The most important thing to remember about dog-sitting is to keep the pooch away from water. Otherwise you don't know what evil will befall them.

    David Walliams rescues dog from the River Thames
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-14877856
    A Walliams Fidler story!
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,706
    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,582
    edited 5:37PM

    Tres said:

    kinabalu said:

    Battlebus said:

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    I can see no reason for this except spite.
    In the words of the Labour manifesto 'it is being used as a smokescreen for the hunting of wild animals' and in fairness this is true. There have been so many examples. Only the other week hunt saboteurs recorded exactly this from a drone - clear hunting of a fox.

    The hunts only have themselves to blame for this. It is a shame because a British tradition could have been kept if it had adapted, but they seem incapable of doing so and keeping to the law.
    The original ban was done out of spite too and has made it difficult to keep fox numbers down and protect sheep and livestock and pet rabbits etc
    They should do zoning for fox hunting. Focus on urban areas.

    Plenty of potential demand for hunts here in the South East London suburbs. It seems there’s a fox in every back garden, and another rifling through every food caddy that’s not been tightly clipped shut.

    The height of the walls and fences might be a challenge for the horses though.
    We have to feed ours every night. It's a sort of protection racket they run. If you don't you end up having to pick up their crap in the back garden every morning.
    I used to not mind them but now having a cat it's a slight worry.
    Our cats would chase the foxes out the garden.
    All other things being equal, cats are more than a match for foxes.
    I gather urban foxes are now emboldened to take cats, which they never used to be.
    My black cat chases our local foxes when he spots one. Which is frequently: they’re in the garden daily.

    The whole metropolitan/rural culture war angle here is silly. Foxes are arguably a much bigger pest in the city than in the sticks. I’ve never seen one on my vineyard, unlike the “wild” (yeah, right) pheasants that get raised in cages then released en-masse ready to chow down on my crop each year. I cooked 2 last night as micro-revenge.

    We also have rabbits. The bastards not only dig warrens right under the vines in the root zone, killing dozens of them, but they decided the black piles of bird netting I’d left in the vineyard ready for bagging up would make a nice warm bed to shit on. So I turned up yesterday to find each one covered in countless little brown pellets.
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 406
    edited 5:38PM
    ydoethur said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    I can see no reason for this except spite.
    Yes, yet another attack on the countryside from Labour
    Hunts are not universally liked in the countryside. In fact you'll come across farmers who absolutely detest them. And talking of pets, it's not uncommon for a family dog or cat to get ripped into pieces by them.
    Which pets rip family dogs or cats into pieces?

    #pedanticbetting.com

    (Seriously, though, this is just more red meat for the nutters on Labour's left wing. 'We may be stripping people of disability benefits and kept a SEND denier* as chief of the DfE, but we're banning hunting! Yay!'

    Hunting is basically an irrelevance, which is why Theresa May was a fool to talk about it the other way.)

    *A reference to the latest inanities from Susan Acland-Hood.
    It’s not an irrelevance to the people that have had their pets torn open. One of our neighbours, elderly, on her own, lost her cat to these cruelty loving shites. I’d cane the fuckers that did for the cat. And it still wouldn’t hurt them as much as they hurt her for the fun of it. Ban.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,042
    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    Could be a child over 16 with the PIP, for example.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,955
    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £5.75 pw on Council Tax looks odd too.

    Seems like the monthly outgoings would be more credible as weekly ones.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,161
    edited 5:44PM
    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,247
    Nigel Farage cleared of Clacton campaign spending breach

    The election watchdog has closed its investigation into the Reform leader after finding no ‘credible evidence’ that he failed to declare campaign costs


    https://www.thetimes.com/article/04597b14-7fbb-4315-b685-15e1fa9ecc6f?shareToken=42ed2878d8c2304b6d3b95435f09e402
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,955
    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    Not very creative, the numbers are clearly BS.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,875
    MelonB said:

    Tres said:

    kinabalu said:

    Battlebus said:

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    I can see no reason for this except spite.
    In the words of the Labour manifesto 'it is being used as a smokescreen for the hunting of wild animals' and in fairness this is true. There have been so many examples. Only the other week hunt saboteurs recorded exactly this from a drone - clear hunting of a fox.

    The hunts only have themselves to blame for this. It is a shame because a British tradition could have been kept if it had adapted, but they seem incapable of doing so and keeping to the law.
    The original ban was done out of spite too and has made it difficult to keep fox numbers down and protect sheep and livestock and pet rabbits etc
    They should do zoning for fox hunting. Focus on urban areas.

    Plenty of potential demand for hunts here in the South East London suburbs. It seems there’s a fox in every back garden, and another rifling through every food caddy that’s not been tightly clipped shut.

    The height of the walls and fences might be a challenge for the horses though.
    We have to feed ours every night. It's a sort of protection racket they run. If you don't you end up having to pick up their crap in the back garden every morning.
    I used to not mind them but now having a cat it's a slight worry.
    Our cats would chase the foxes out the garden.
    All other things being equal, cats are more than a match for foxes.
    I gather urban foxes are now emboldened to take cats, which they never used to be.
    My black cat chases our local foxes when he spots one. Which is frequently: they’re in the garden daily.

    The whole metropolitan/rural culture war angle here is silly. Foxes are arguably a much bigger pest in the city than in the sticks. I’ve never seen one on my vineyard, unlike the “wild” (yeah, right) pheasants that get raised in cages then released en-masse ready to chow down on my crop each year. I cooked 2 last night as micro-revenge.

    We also have rabbits. The bastards not only dig warrens right under the vines in the root zone, killing dozens of them, but they decided the black piles of bird netting I’d left in the vineyard ready for bagging up would make a nice warm bed to shit on. So I turned up yesterday to find each one covered in countless little brown pellets.
    Sounds like you need a fox to clear out those rabbits.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    Oh my God, you posted an image.
    Made your day
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,875
    edited 6:00PM

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £5.75 pw on Council Tax looks odd too.

    Seems like the monthly outgoings would be more credible as weekly ones.
    The council tax could be after CTR, so possible. Edit: or disability reduction given the PIP award.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,388

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    Not very creative, the numbers are clearly BS.
    Not sure it is that rare for maintenance to be paid

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/child-maintenance-service-statistics-data-to-june-2024/child-maintenance-service-statistics-data-to-june-2024

    Example graph (more than one payment route) -


  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    Eabhal said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £5.75 pw on Council Tax looks odd too.

    Seems like the monthly outgoings would be more credible as weekly ones.
    The council tax could be after CTR, so possible. Edit: or disability reduction given the PIP award.
    Yeah, in Durham next year it will be about £4.00 a week after CTR.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    :D:D aye right
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £5.75 pw on Council Tax looks odd too.

    Seems like the monthly outgoings would be more credible as weekly ones.
    Usual bollox from you, that is what they pay when they are on benefits, next to feck all.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    English cricket. A drinking holiday interrupted by pesky cricket.

    If this is even remotely true heads should roll.

    https://x.com/adamsants_/status/2002757201904169036?s=61
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    malcolmg said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £5.75 pw on Council Tax looks odd too.

    Seems like the monthly outgoings would be more credible as weekly ones.
    Usual bollox from you, that is what they pay when they are on benefits, next to feck all.
    Well quite, it will be the council tax reduction scheme. In Durham it is 90% from next year. Average 170 a year for the so called poor.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,161
    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    OK. Here's an example of someone with some form of disability, who has children, and who has separated or left a partner. She has the responsibility to look after them. If she was sitting in front of you so what would you advise her to do with the children or with her accommodation? How about the spending lines; are there any items you could cut out? Is she overspending in any areas or being excessive?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,042
    edited 6:13PM
    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    OK. Here's an example of someone with some form of disability, who has children, and who has separated or left a partner. She has the responsibility to look after them. If she was sitting in front of you so what would you advise her to do with the children or with her accommodation? How about the spending lines; are there any items you could cut out? Is she overspending in any areas or being excessive?
    Why does she need to cut back? She has £650 spare each month... I'd advise her to be frugal and stick £5000 a year in an ISA or SIPP.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,329

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    I’d love to have a dog now I’m retired but I can’t get over the thought of pickings it’s shit up. I remember once a dog walk with my mother and her dogs. One took a runny dump and she was trying to clean it up and it was like a dirty protest in The Maize.

    I was wary of it before we got ours but soon got used to it. My mother in laws dog once did a shit so runny it resembled chicken korma. No way to clear it up, so I scarpered (and felt bad, but what was I to do?)
    I nearly (until a chest infection for me) was planning to dog sit this Christmas. The range of comments for this Shit-Poo (therapy) dog was quite extensive. There's quite a lot more, including a different set of required behaviours for the room used for therapy.

    • Sit
    • Lie down
    • Spin
    • Leave
    • Come
    • Wait
    • Stay
    • Walk with me
    • Touch
    • Hold paw.
    • Sit pretty
    • High ten
    • Dance or wheely

    When I last heard the owners were stuck at Dibai en route to Thailand.
    What’s the difference between “sit” and “sit pretty”?

    Or do I not want to know…
    Sit pretty is I think this one:


  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,329
    edited 6:15PM
    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    For anyone wanting to look, this is the Sun piece:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/37662000/single-mum-benefits-disposable-income-trolls-unfair-greedy/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,309
    Erika Kirk: “Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband, at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift, excuse me, grit…”

    This is the greatest Freudian slip of all time.


    https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2002754566396510468
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,325
    Taz said:

    English cricket. A drinking holiday interrupted by pesky cricket.

    If this is even remotely true heads should roll.

    https://x.com/adamsants_/status/2002757201904169036?s=61

    I did wonder about something like this. I dimly recall successfully betting against Australia many years ago after some of their team had been spotted in West End nightclubs. The difference being they'd already won the Ashes by this point.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61
  • TresTres Posts: 3,293
    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    paying pensioners
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    Tres said:

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    paying pensioners
    Do you think we should stop,the state pension full stop ?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,500
    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,108
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
    Hmm. I also remember it as a camp classic with over-the-top costumes and acting and poor BBC sets and quarries. But if you strip away the glitter and look at the plots, they were quite good for the time and I think libertarian Americans have reappraised it slightly on that basis. People keep wanting to reboot it, tho I think it's best left where it is.

    The ending tho is brilliant. Most long-running series don't commit to the bit so hard.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,388
    Taz said:

    Tres said:

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    paying pensioners
    Do you think we should stop,the state pension full stop ?
    One bucket of turnips per week per family.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,582
    Eabhal said:

    MelonB said:

    Tres said:

    kinabalu said:

    Battlebus said:

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    kjh said:

    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour seeks to ban trail hunting in the New Year

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g9y20j259o

    I can see no reason for this except spite.
    In the words of the Labour manifesto 'it is being used as a smokescreen for the hunting of wild animals' and in fairness this is true. There have been so many examples. Only the other week hunt saboteurs recorded exactly this from a drone - clear hunting of a fox.

    The hunts only have themselves to blame for this. It is a shame because a British tradition could have been kept if it had adapted, but they seem incapable of doing so and keeping to the law.
    The original ban was done out of spite too and has made it difficult to keep fox numbers down and protect sheep and livestock and pet rabbits etc
    They should do zoning for fox hunting. Focus on urban areas.

    Plenty of potential demand for hunts here in the South East London suburbs. It seems there’s a fox in every back garden, and another rifling through every food caddy that’s not been tightly clipped shut.

    The height of the walls and fences might be a challenge for the horses though.
    We have to feed ours every night. It's a sort of protection racket they run. If you don't you end up having to pick up their crap in the back garden every morning.
    I used to not mind them but now having a cat it's a slight worry.
    Our cats would chase the foxes out the garden.
    All other things being equal, cats are more than a match for foxes.
    I gather urban foxes are now emboldened to take cats, which they never used to be.
    My black cat chases our local foxes when he spots one. Which is frequently: they’re in the garden daily.

    The whole metropolitan/rural culture war angle here is silly. Foxes are arguably a much bigger pest in the city than in the sticks. I’ve never seen one on my vineyard, unlike the “wild” (yeah, right) pheasants that get raised in cages then released en-masse ready to chow down on my crop each year. I cooked 2 last night as micro-revenge.

    We also have rabbits. The bastards not only dig warrens right under the vines in the root zone, killing dozens of them, but they decided the black piles of bird netting I’d left in the vineyard ready for bagging up would make a nice warm bed to shit on. So I turned up yesterday to find each one covered in countless little brown pellets.
    Sounds like you need a fox to clear out those rabbits.
    I was speculating on exactly that the other day. Pick some up from Brockley, bung them in a van and transport them to East Kent. They’d soon see to the pheasants too.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    edited 6:44PM
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
    The final episode was, certainly, not every episode but the finale was brilliant.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,309

    NEW THREAD

  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,908

    Erika Kirk: “Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband, at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift, excuse me, grit…”

    This is the greatest Freudian slip of all time.


    https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2002754566396510468

    She's got that dead husband glow up.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,500
    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
    Hmm. I also remember it as a camp classic with over-the-top costumes and acting and poor BBC sets and quarries. But if you strip away the glitter and look at the plots, they were quite good for the time and I think libertarian Americans have reappraised it slightly on that basis. People keep wanting to reboot it, tho I think it's best left where it is.

    The ending tho is brilliant. Most long-running series don't commit to the bit so hard.
    I'd agree about the plots by comparison, for example I used to think that Star Trek had enough plot to fill 15 minutes, with all the rest of the episode just being padding.

    You remind me about the ending - I read at the time that in the final shoot-out, the very last shot heard comes from the weapon ?Avon? (have I the name right?) was using, leaving room for a continuation .....
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,203
    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
    Hmm. I also remember it as a camp classic with over-the-top costumes and acting and poor BBC sets and quarries. But if you strip away the glitter and look at the plots, they were quite good for the time and I think libertarian Americans have reappraised it slightly on that basis. People keep wanting to reboot it, tho I think it's best left where it is.

    The ending tho is brilliant. Most long-running series don't commit to the bit so hard.
    Yes, when I said masterpiece I meant the last episode.

  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,961
    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £400/month for rent is ludicrously good. I doubt you could get a one bed flat for that in most of the country.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    OK. Here's an example of someone with some form of disability, who has children, and who has separated or left a partner. She has the responsibility to look after them. If she was sitting in front of you so what would you advise her to do with the children or with her accommodation? How about the spending lines; are there any items you could cut out? Is she overspending in any areas or being excessive?
    So she will have anxiety or agraphobia or some bollox, the guy who impregnated her should be paying or she could just get free child care and try tto contribute a bit rather than be a sponger who can only save 655 quid off her freebies
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,500
    rkrkrk said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    £400/month for rent is ludicrously good. I doubt you could get a one bed flat for that in most of the country.
    Her budget shows £0 for transport, which is a bit unusual.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,531
    Tres said:

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    FF43 said:

    malcolmg said:

    to show the crap on here re benefits being £70 a week. Why work for minimum wage.


    So this would be a non working severely disabled mum with two dependent children renting for £100 per week and feeding her family of three on £50 PW.

    I suppose hypothetically such a family might exist but so rare it wouldn't tell us anything if it did.
    She'll also be single and separated - the child maintenance is paid by the father and not the state. Easy to jump to an opinion and gloss over facts.

    Also it is very rare for child maintenance to be paid, as the fathers usually claim they have yet another family to support. In fact the whole story could be someone's creative thinking.
    The creative fantasy thinking that they are all on 70 quid a week is all on here, why do you think we borrow 130 billion a year.
    paying pensioners
    I paid for 50 years for my state pension , not a days sponging. @battlebus @Tres
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,161
    Back to the benefits scrounger in the Sun. Here are the actual numbers the DWP is working to.

    https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/pdfs/rightsnet-benefits-poster-2025-2026.pdf

    Single mother will get her own monthly personal allowance, a child element and her rent up to the value of the local housing allowance. So that would get someone without a disability £1113.95. Since she claims to get £1400 then there will be enhanced payments for her or her child's disability worth a further £286.05. This is in addition to the £295 for PIP. Both the enhances payments and PIP are in recognition of the limitations her disabilities (hers or her child's) puts on them.

    The £655 monthly surplus is where this starts looking very odd. She claims to be paying over £300 in debt payments but still has this surplus. Each creditor would be going through a Standard Financial Statement to independently verify her income and her expenditure. She has 5 different debts so 5 different checks. Having been doing this sort of stuff for 8 years (my own time for free) there is no way her debt repayments will be so low that she would have this surplus. Definitely fantasy but then as a content creator/influencer, she wants the clicks. Facts don't seem to be relevant.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,295
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    44 years ago, the final episode of this TV classic and what a masterpiece it is too

    https://x.com/archivetvmus71/status/2002786264953860500?s=61

    I remember the series and I enjoyed it at the time, but a masterpiece?
    I miss Orac and slave
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