If you have a spare half a million pounds this may interest you – politicalbetting.com

System · December 12

If you have a spare half a million pounds this may interest you – politicalbetting.com

Liz Truss is back. The short-lived UK prime minister and businessman Robert Tchenguiz are launching an ultra-exclusive club in London.Truss and Tchenguiz are hoping to recruit 700 founding members — each paying £500,000. Find out more here: https://t.co/K0Ric7UEac pic.twitter.com/pgItnavuqn

Read the full story here

rcs1000 · December 12

Nigelb said:
Dictatorship, you say, Victor ?

Today, the Brusselians are crossing the Rubicon. At noon, a written vote will take place that will cause irreparable damage to the Union.

The subject of the vote is the frozen Russian assets, on which the EU member states have so far voted every 6 months and adopted a unanimous decision. With today’s procedure, the Brusselians are abolishing the requirement of unanimity with a single stroke of the pen, which is clearly unlawful.

With today’s decision, the rule of law in the European Union comes to an end, and Europe’s leaders are placing themselves above the rules. Instead of safeguarding compliance with the EU treaties, the European Commission is systematically raping European law. It is doing this in order to continue the war in Ukraine, a war that clearly isn't winnable. All this is happening in broad daylight, less than a week before the meeting of the European Council, the Union’s most important decision-making body, bringing together heads of state and government. With this, the rule of law in the European Union is being replaced by the rule of bureaucrats. In other words, a Brusselian dictatorship has taken hold.

Hungary protests this decision and will do everything in its power to restore a lawful order.
https://x.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1999358779763183953

If you're not too addicted to EU funding, there's a simple solution on offer.

Dear Mr Orban,

If you don't like it, you can always leave.

Sincerely yours,

rcs1000

rcs1000 · December 12

Nigelb said:
Dictatorship, you say, Victor ?

Today, the Brusselians are crossing the Rubicon. At noon, a written vote will take place that will cause irreparable damage to the Union.

The subject of the vote is the frozen Russian assets, on which the EU member states have so far voted every 6 months and adopted a unanimous decision. With today’s procedure, the Brusselians are abolishing the requirement of unanimity with a single stroke of the pen, which is clearly unlawful.

With today’s decision, the rule of law in the European Union comes to an end, and Europe’s leaders are placing themselves above the rules. Instead of safeguarding compliance with the EU treaties, the European Commission is systematically raping European law. It is doing this in order to continue the war in Ukraine, a war that clearly isn't winnable. All this is happening in broad daylight, less than a week before the meeting of the European Council, the Union’s most important decision-making body, bringing together heads of state and government. With this, the rule of law in the European Union is being replaced by the rule of bureaucrats. In other words, a Brusselian dictatorship has taken hold.

Hungary protests this decision and will do everything in its power to restore a lawful order.
https://x.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1999358779763183953

If you're not too addicted to EU funding, there's a simple solution on offer.

Weirdly, Mr Orban has never had any problems with putting himself above laws. Or indeed, his mates Mr Putin and Mr Trump putting themselves above laws.

boulay · December 12

Is the Truss club called Ministry of Bound?

rcs1000 · December 12

I'm not going to deny, I'm very sad that I haven't recieved an invitation to join the Truss Club.

Taz · December 12

rcs1000 said:
I'm not going to deny, I'm very sad that I haven't recieved an invitation to join the Truss Club.

Groucho Marx applies, possibly !

TheScreamingEagles · December 12

rcs1000 said:
I'm not going to deny, I'm very sad that I haven't recieved an invitation to join the Truss Club.

Same.

Andy_JS · December 12

"Trump’s bleak vision shows how good we had it
US security strategy depicts a world returning to great power rivalry — were decades of peace and freedom merely a blip?
Gerard Baker" (£)

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/trumps-bleak-vision-shows-how-good-we-had-it-x5vxjtrqb

williamglenn · December 12

Liz Truss is once again showing that she's a step ahead of everyone else in British politics. She's realised that the personal subscription model is the future, and instead of messing around with a Substack, she's gone straight in with a bid to capture the top end of the market.

MattW · December 12

Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo

FF43 · December 12

A very necessary investment warning there, @TheScreamingEagles. Investors should be prepared for the remote possibility they won't lose everything in a Liz Truss project. Particularly important if you are planning a Producers style investment scam.

Omnium · December 12

williamglenn said:
Liz Truss is once again showing that she's a step ahead of everyone else in British politics. She's realised that the personal subscription model is the future, and instead of messing around with a Substack, she's gone straight in with a bid to capture the top end of the market.

Could have been worse. She might have gone the onlyfans route.

kinabalu · December 12

They're missing a trick. There must be far more people who'd pay not to join.

Pro_Rata · December 12

Lucky Guy's luck about to run out?

FF43 · December 12

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo

On its face it does sound like a bonkers retirement scheme, however.

rcs1000 · December 12

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo

It's pretty weird that your pension pot reduces if you work a 31st year.

OnlyLivingBoy · December 12

Since nobody would possibly want to join this club there must be something else going on. Presumably you'd have to be a tax lawyer or accountant to understand what, though.

Malmesbury · December 12

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo

1) why would the pension pot reduce if you exceed 30 years of service. Frozen at maximum value, I can understand. Reduce?
2) Shirley a special law is the correct fix?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/2588/contents/made

rcs1000 · December 12

williamglenn said:
Liz Truss is once again showing that she's a step ahead of everyone else in British politics. She's realised that the personal subscription model is the future, and instead of messing around with a Substack, she's gone straight in with a bid to capture the top end of the market.

That is one of two possibilities, yes.

rcs1000 · December 12

Would anyone like to bet on whether The Truss Club will actually ever go live?

kinabalu · December 12

williamglenn said:
Liz Truss is once again showing that she's a step ahead of everyone else in British politics. She's realised that the personal subscription model is the future, and instead of messing around with a Substack, she's gone straight in with a bid to capture the top end of the market.

Yep, she's quicker than a speeding bullet. Look at that PMship. Just dealt with it and moved on.

Scott_xP · December 12

OnlyLivingBoy said:
Since nobody would possibly want to join this club there must be something else going on. Presumably you'd have to be a tax lawyer or accountant to understand what, though.

Her 'partner' owes somebody lots of money as I understand it

Sunil_Prasannan · December 12

Nigelb said:
Dictatorship, you say, Victor ?

Today, the Brusselians are crossing the Rubicon. At noon, a written vote will take place that will cause irreparable damage to the Union.

The subject of the vote is the frozen Russian assets, on which the EU member states have so far voted every 6 months and adopted a unanimous decision. With today’s procedure, the Brusselians are abolishing the requirement of unanimity with a single stroke of the pen, which is clearly unlawful.

With today’s decision, the rule of law in the European Union comes to an end, and Europe’s leaders are placing themselves above the rules. Instead of safeguarding compliance with the EU treaties, the European Commission is systematically raping European law. It is doing this in order to continue the war in Ukraine, a war that clearly isn't winnable. All this is happening in broad daylight, less than a week before the meeting of the European Council, the Union’s most important decision-making body, bringing together heads of state and government. With this, the rule of law in the European Union is being replaced by the rule of bureaucrats. In other words, a Brusselian dictatorship has taken hold.

Hungary protests this decision and will do everything in its power to restore a lawful order.
https://x.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1999358779763183953

If you're not too addicted to EU funding, there's a simple solution on offer.

Budapexit

Malmesbury · December 12

FF43 said:
A very necessary investment warning there, @TheScreamingEagles. Investors should be prepared for the remote possibility they won't lose everything in a Liz Truss project. Particularly important if you are planning a Producers style investment scam.

I am trying to find a U.K. film, produced on shoestring.

The premise was, à la “The Producers” - a couple of Indy filmmakers are taking advance of the pre-Osbourne tax breaks on films to create a loss on behalf of investors.

Of course it accidentally become a runaway success…

Any ideas how to find it? Was rather well done.

TimS · December 12

Required run-rate for the annual CET record now +0.53C. Getting close to a foregone conclusion.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html

IanB2 · December 12

What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!

Theuniondivvie · December 12

Christ, for once it’s a warcrime being committed upon the Israelis.

https://x.com/mattgrippi/status/1996117596362736012?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

Scott_xP · December 12

I await an intrepid journalist asking Nazi Barbie about Trump condoms at a Whitehouse press conference

FF43 · December 12

Malmesbury said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
1) why would the pension pot reduce if you exceed 30 years of service. Frozen at maximum value, I can understand. Reduce?
2) Shirley a special law is the correct fix?

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/2588/contents/made

My wife was on an NHS pension scheme where the retirement age was set at 60 and the amount of pension you received per year is the same if you retired at 60 or 70 but would result in less pension over your lifetime if you retired later. Maybe something like that is happening here.

Should add the scheme, which the NHS changed in 1995 is very favourable to people who do retire at 60. Possibly this is the reason why the police don't want to change theirs.

Battlebus · December 12

An interesting choice of partner for Truss. Surprised that Jenrick hasn't been the first to team up given his interest in the property market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tchenguiz

malcolmg · December 12

rcs1000 said:
I'm not going to deny, I'm very sad that I haven't recieved an invitation to join the Truss Club.

Be pocket money for you as well.

MattW · December 12

I have the core of their bar menu:

The Dizzy Lizzie cocktail is a refreshing and citrusy drink that packs a punch. This cocktail gets its name from its ability to make you feel a little dizzy after just one sip.

Its origins are a bit murky. The combination of vodka, tequila, and orange juice creates a harmonious blend of sweet, tangy, and boozy notes. The vodka adds a smooth and subtle taste, while the tequila brings a hint of smokiness.

The orange juice balances out the alcohol with its bright and refreshing flavor. Together, these ingredients create a cocktail that is perfect for sipping on a hot summer day or for a night out on the town.

Dizzy Lizzie is truly a crowd-pleaser and a must-try for any cocktail lover.

Vodka. Tequila. Orange Juide.
https://makemeacocktail.com/cocktail/1552/dizzy-lizzie

They need a Fizzy Lizzy.

bondegezou · December 12

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo

Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

malcolmg · December 12

FF43 said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
On its face it does sound like a bonkers retirement scheme, however.

Sounds like grifting to me.

Taz · December 12

Where’s @Anabobazina when you need him, or her, don’t want a misgender here.

TRUSS

malcolmg · December 12

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!

Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day

MattW · December 12

bondegezou said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

The previous scheme delivered max pension after 30 years, so I think it is probably legacy designed to allow experienced officers to remain rather than being forced to retire by financial factors and take their pension and a second career, when the scheme was made significantly less favourable. So, a long term transitional arrangement.

There were various legal actions around edge cases.

TimS · December 12

malcolmg said:

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!
Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day

The earliest sunset is a couple of weeks before the latest sunrise. One of those oddities.

Flatlander · December 12

TimS said:
Required run-rate for the annual CET record now +0.53C. Getting close to a foregone conclusion.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html

The past few days here:
12C, 13C, 12C, 15C, 13C, 11C, 10C.

It might be grim and damp, but it ain't winter. At least it reduces the gas demand.

malcolmg · December 12

bondegezou said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

Possibly to try and get rid of the dross

malcolmg · December 12

TimS said:

malcolmg said:

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!
Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day
The earliest sunset is a couple of weeks before the latest sunrise. One of those oddities.

you learn something every day , on another topic what is a sunrise I have forgotten

Earliest Sunset: Around December 7th-13th (e.g., Dec 13th in Great Britain).
Winter Solstice (Shortest Day): Around December 21st.
Latest Sunrise: Around New Year's Day (early January)

OldKingCole · December 12

bondegezou said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

Given where this is taking place, perhaps the details are written in Welsh, and there’s been a mistranslation?

williamglenn · December 12

Scott_xP said:
I await an intrepid journalist asking Nazi Barbie about Trump condoms at a Whitehouse press conference

Which way would you have answered on this poll?

https://x.com/POLITICOEurope/status/1999180313478447328

POLITICO Poll: Donald Trump’s return as U.S. president is far more significant for voters in Germany, France and the U.K. than the election of their own national leaders, according to respondents to our international online survey.

Flatlander · December 12

bondegezou said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

Is it a defined benefit scheme that you can cash out instead of taking an annuity?

If you took out the equivalent capital instead of buying an annuity the value would reduce for each year you didn't take it.

squareroot2 · December 12

Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

Eabhal · December 12

bondegezou said:

MattW said:
Hmmm. Errrrm.

A police chief constable on a £170,000-a-year salary has asked to retire for a single day - before being reappointed to her role - to protect her pension.

North Wales Police Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman will "retire" on 15 January and be "re-hired" on 17 January if the process is approved.

The move is legitimate under the national Retire and Rehire Scheme and will prevent her pension pot reducing. It matures after 30 years' service but reduces for each consecutive year of additional service. By enforcing a break, it will be frozen at its maximum amount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9977mlvl7mo
Why does the pension reduce for years of additional service? That seems an odd way to design a pension.

It will be like the army - limited spots for senior officers so there is a streamlining process as your ability to deck neds diminishes with age.

It's a silly system sometimes - I know someone who was a highly technical member of the armed forces, was pushed out in similar circumstances, and now the MOD pay him £££ to do the same thing as a contractor.

No_Offence_Alan · December 12

Malmesbury said:

FF43 said:
A very necessary investment warning there, @TheScreamingEagles. Investors should be prepared for the remote possibility they won't lose everything in a Liz Truss project. Particularly important if you are planning a Producers style investment scam.
I am trying to find a U.K. film, produced on shoestring.

The premise was, à la “The Producers” - a couple of Indy filmmakers are taking advance of the pre-Osbourne tax breaks on films to create a loss on behalf of investors.

Of course it accidentally become a runaway success…

Any ideas how to find it? Was rather well done.

"Mister Ten Per Cent" starring Charlie Drake? (1967)

Benpointer · December 12

The value of your investments can plummet as well as fall.

OldKingCole · December 12

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.

Benpointer · December 12

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

Having been through similar with my late mum's account, I feel for you. Some of these utility companies are an utter disgrace.

Andy_JS · December 12

I visited the Dome 4 times in the year 2000. Can anyone beat that?

rottenborough · December 12

£490,000 of the fee is a 'moron premium'.

Scott_xP · December 12

These 2 photos were in the same dump.

https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m7slc4747s23

DoctorG · December 12

Andy_JS said:
I visited the Dome 4 times in the year 2000. Can anyone beat that?

Which one? Edinburgh or Crystal maze

rcs1000 · December 12

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

It does make things easier.

Just for the company, rather than you.

Omnium · December 12

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.

EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

malcolmg · December 12

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.

every company seems like that , takes you forever to get to a human or actually find a real phone number, and then you get speil about being busy and hang on for an hour

Omnium · December 12

malcolmg said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
every company seems like that , takes you forever to get to a human or actually find a real phone number, and then you get speil about being busy and hang on for an hour

And then they cut you off if its in any way tricky.

malcolmg · December 12

Omnium said:

malcolmg said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
every company seems like that , takes you forever to get to a human or actually find a real phone number, and then you get speil about being busy and hang on for an hour
And then they cut you off if its in any way tricky.

Probably interfering with someone watching netflix

Big_G_NorthWales · December 12

Benpointer said:
The value of your investments can plummet as well as fall.

Good evening

'A fool and his money are soon parted'

Andy_JS · December 12

Apparently this message from Nigel Farage is circulating around.

"We’ve just made history. Reform UK is now officially the largest political party in the UK. The Times reports Labour are down 100,000 members since the general election and now have fewer than 250,000 paid-up members. Since July, that’s one member leaving every seven minutes! Biggest Party in Britain! Meanwhile, thanks to people like you, our live counter shows that we have over 268,900 members. This is a huge milestone on our journey to winning the next election."

IanB2 · December 12

malcolmg said:

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!
Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day

That's the shortest day, for sure, but tonight is the earliest sunset. Latest sunrise won't be until the end of December, and the 22nd averages out at the shortest day overall.

Malmesbury · December 12

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.

Omnium · December 12

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.

Candidates are asked show their workings when jumping from one topic to another.

ydoethur · December 12

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

Sounds like the trouble I had with Bullshit Gas.

Find the CEO's email and send a bill to them that way. It usually gets their attention and recent rulings have made them liable to pay. (Note - that is entirely separate from the ombudmsan, who does not rule on loss of earnings or payments, and do not let them fob you off saying otherwise.)

IanB2 · December 12

TimS said:

malcolmg said:

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!
Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day
The earliest sunset is a couple of weeks before the latest sunrise. One of those oddities.

The earth's orbit is slightly ovoid, not circular, and the earth moves quicker around the sun when we're in the closest parts of the orbit, in December (and June). Hence this month the earth is moving slightly more than 1/365th around its orbit each day, and so the 'real' astronomical day length during December is some seconds longer than 24 hours (the extra time needed for the earth to spin back around to the same position relative to the sun as it was yesterday). Because our clocks are set to a fixed 24 hours, this means that both sunrise and sunset occur some seconds later, by our clock time, each day during December than the day before (similarly in June, and some seconds earlier each day in March and September). Normally these small changes are swamped by the daily change as we move through the seasons, but when - as now - the daily change due to the seasons has almost stalled, the change due to the orbit is the greater, advancing earliest sunset (by our clocks) to mid-December and pushing latest sunrise back to the end of the month.

ydoethur · December 12

Omnium said:

williamglenn said:
Liz Truss is once again showing that she's a step ahead of everyone else in British politics. She's realised that the personal subscription model is the future, and instead of messing around with a Substack, she's gone straight in with a bid to capture the top end of the market.
Could have been worse. She might have gone the onlyfans route.

I thought for a moment you meant this retire/unretire chief constable.

The TPS had similar problems at one stage (since resolved with the end of final salary) but that was got round by simply quitting the pension scheme for a month, which 'froze' the amount payable at the amount it would have been at that moment.

malcolmg · December 12

IanB2 said:

malcolmg said:

IanB2 said:
What nonsensical drivel from Truss. Presumably she has simply seen how her like-minded Americans are grifting away and wants a piece of the action?

Anyhow, in happier news, the sun just set has sunk below the horizon at its earliest time of the year, tonight. From tomorrow, if extremely slowly at first, we are headed back towards lighter evenings!
Not in the UK we are not, 22nd December is the shortest day
That's the shortest day, for sure, but tonight is the earliest sunset. Latest sunrise won't be until the end of December, and the 22nd averages out at the shortest day overall.

Yes TimS posted , I stand corrected.

IanB2 · December 12

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

Never get any service from a utility company whose name consists of a three letter acronym.

IanB2 · December 12

Andy_JS said:
I visited the Dome 4 times in the year 2000. Can anyone beat that?

More wisely, I never went.

I remember when the projected visitor numbers for the Dome were put before London Council's Environment Committee, and the projections were quite clearly nonsense, and had obviously simply been back-calculated to produce enough visitors to make the business case add up. For most of the country it would have meant between a third and a half of the population travelling to London to visit the Dome at least once during 2000. So I piped up and said as much, and after a rather long tumbleweed moment my comment went unanswered and the committee simply moved on.

Omnium · December 12

ydoethur said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Sounds like the trouble I had with Bullshit Gas.

Find the CEO's email and send a bill to them that way. It usually gets their attention and recent rulings have made them liable to pay. (Note - that is entirely separate from the ombudmsan, who does not rule on loss of earnings or payments, and do not let them fob you off saying otherwise.)

The run in I had with EdF was ridiculous. I did, like you, find some senior board twat to deal with it. Foolishly I said I'd agree to whatever the regulator concluded. I do honour my word, but having to pay five years later a bill that was adjusted over a year out of date was just plain wrong.

The regulator is bent.

WhisperingOracle · December 12

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .

Evening, P..B.

Please stay on the line.
Your call is important to us.
Please note that abuse of staff will not be tolerated.
If you are ringing about our Luckyday Bimgo Free Power offer, or have had any problems using your Luckyday Bingo Free Power offer coupons, please press 4.
Your call is important to us.

Malmesbury · December 12

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.
Candidates are asked show their workings when jumping from one topic to another.

You are showing dissatisfaction with The Process. Literally.

There will be an elaborate chart of how they deal with your enquiry. Optimised for the companies convenience - rather than yourself or the people manning the Hell Desk(s).

Companies that have reputation for good customer service exist. They design The Process around the goal of customer satisfaction. They even modify the Process to improve on this.

They worship the goal, not the method.

carnforth · December 12

WhisperingOracle said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Evening, P..B.

Please stay on the line.
Your call is important to us.
Please note that abuse of staff will not be tolerated.
If you are ringing about our Luckyday Bimgo Free Power offer, or have had any problems using your Luckyday Bingo Free Power offer coupons, please press 4.

I called up the gas emergency line last night and spoke to a nice, ruthlessly competant lady, and an engineer - communicative and sensible - was on the scene in 30 minutes. So when it's urgent, or in their interests, they can actually do things well.

ydoethur · December 12

Omnium said:

ydoethur said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Sounds like the trouble I had with Bullshit Gas.

Find the CEO's email and send a bill to them that way. It usually gets their attention and recent rulings have made them liable to pay. (Note - that is entirely separate from the ombudmsan, who does not rule on loss of earnings or payments, and do not let them fob you off saying otherwise.)
The run in I had with EdF was ridiculous. I did, like you, find some senior board twat to deal with it. Foolishly I said I'd agree to whatever the regulator concluded. I do honour my word, but having to pay five years later a bill that was adjusted over a year out of date was just plain wrong.

The regulator is bent.

The regulator claims that under GDPR they cannot notify complainants if a complaint has been upheld, or even if an investigation has been opened.

Which is actually a lie, because under GDPR they are *obliged* to share that information .

What they mean is, they don’t want to reveal they never investigate their paymasters.

viewcode · December 12

rcs1000 said:
I'm not going to deny, I'm very sad that I haven't recieved an invitation to join the Truss Club.

So am I. If they are stupid enough to pay me £500,000 to listen to them, I'm stupid enough to take the money... 😎

Sean_F · December 12

So, when you join this club, do you state whether you’re a dom, a sub, or a switch?

Cookie · December 12

carnforth said:

WhisperingOracle said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Evening, P..B.

Please stay on the line.
Your call is important to us.
Please note that abuse of staff will not be tolerated.
If you are ringing about our Luckyday Bimgo Free Power offer, or have had any problems using your Luckyday Bingo Free Power offer coupons, please press 4.
I called up the gas emergency line last night and spoke to a nice, ruthlessly competant lady, and an engineer - communicative and sensible - was on the scene in 30 minutes. So when it's urgent, or in their interests, they can actually do things well.

I had dealings with United Utilities this week. My heart sank, expecting to lose hours of my life to bots and onkine menus and heavily accented call centre staff. But none of that. They were excellent, answering the phone promptly and friendlily, and escalating the issue until an engineer competent enough to resolve the issue could be found. Well done UU.

IanB2 · December 12

rcs1000 said:
Would anyone like to bet on whether The Truss Club will actually ever go live?

The financial club or the, err, 'other' sort of club?

williamglenn · December 12

Sean_F said:
So, when you join this club, do you state whether you’re a dom, a sub, or a switch?

I think it's already implicit in the transaction.

ydoethur · December 12

Sean_F said:
So, when you join this club, do you state whether you’re a dom, a sub, or a switch?

Just wear the right necklace and @Leon will know without being told.

DoctorG · December 12

ydoethur said:

Sean_F said:
So, when you join this club, do you state whether you’re a dom, a sub, or a switch?
Just wear the right necklace and @Leon will know without being told.

Something Leon will be pleased to read about:

Architects of AI named Time Person of the year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly01mdm577o

Apologies if this has been covered

HYUFD · December 12

Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good

Eabhal · December 12

Widespread disgust on facebook this evening on the news that the State Pension will go up in line with the Triple Lock. People think it should be at least the value of the minimum wage (£25k per year).

ydoethur · December 12

HYUFD said:
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good

She practically invented the 104th position, and she's quite good at the other 103 having fucked every single person in this country for two solid months and taken their money for it.

WhisperingOracle · December 12

I can imagine Truss provides gold card benefits for oligarchs who pay most, a bit like the Beano fan club would provide a Dennis the Menace and Lord Snooty gift set.

Omnium · December 12

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.
Candidates are asked show their workings when jumping from one topic to another.
You are showing dissatisfaction with The Process. Literally.

There will be an elaborate chart of how they deal with your enquiry. Optimised for the companies convenience - rather than yourself or the people manning the Hell Desk(s).

Companies that have reputation for good customer service exist. They design The Process around the goal of customer satisfaction. They even modify the Process to improve on this.

They worship the goal, not the method.

No, I just couldn't work out why you replied to my post as you did. Simple as that.

Cookie · December 12

In woke-is-still-taking-over-the-world news, our HR team were delivering a course today, and the otherwise-largely-pleasant person delivering it suggested we start by introducing ourselves giving our role and our pronouns - noone volunteered the second, it being strikingly obvious in all cases - and introduced a short video with a content warning that it contained (incidental but actually quite interesting, as it turned out) discussions of racism and if anyone needed to leave the room to recover they could.
Mind you, a reference was made to Mrs. Merton which he/him absolutely didn't get, so possibly a generational thing.
Also, the BBC, not content with editing out 'faggot' from Fairytale in New York, is also editing out the line 'old slut on junk', which surely is part of the essence if the song. Twats.

Edit, if anyone's interested, this was the video with the trigger warning:
https://youtu.be/qpnNsSyDw-g?si=fKPPf7A7Vy8_fxDa

carnforth · December 12

Before surgery for hernias became usual, the truss was a pretty common reference in comedy. I suppose what I'm saying is yes, she could be more laughable.

HYUFD · December 12

Andy_JS said:
Apparently this message from Nigel Farage is circulating around.

"We’ve just made history. Reform UK is now officially the largest political party in the UK. The Times reports Labour are down 100,000 members since the general election and now have fewer than 250,000 paid-up members. Since July, that’s one member leaving every seven minutes! Biggest Party in Britain! Meanwhile, thanks to people like you, our live counter shows that we have over 268,900 members. This is a huge milestone on our journey to winning the next election."

Farage not yet matched the over 500 000 members Corbyn got when he led Labour then? We all remember the landslide Labour victory that led too…oh wait

malcolmg · December 12

Eabhal said:
Widespread disgust on facebook this evening on the news that the State Pension will go up in line with the Triple Lock. People think it should be at least the value of the minimum wage (£25k per year).

Scandalous, pensioners are ill treated and bottom of the pile.

rcs1000 · December 12

HYUFD said:
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good

I don't really think White's and Soho House are comparable.

Omnium · December 12

ydoethur said:

Omnium said:

ydoethur said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Sounds like the trouble I had with Bullshit Gas.

Find the CEO's email and send a bill to them that way. It usually gets their attention and recent rulings have made them liable to pay. (Note - that is entirely separate from the ombudmsan, who does not rule on loss of earnings or payments, and do not let them fob you off saying otherwise.)
The run in I had with EdF was ridiculous. I did, like you, find some senior board twat to deal with it. Foolishly I said I'd agree to whatever the regulator concluded. I do honour my word, but having to pay five years later a bill that was adjusted over a year out of date was just plain wrong.

The regulator is bent.
The regulator claims that under GDPR they cannot notify complainants if a complaint has been upheld, or even if an investigation has been opened.

Which is actually a lie, because under GDPR they are *obliged* to share that information .

What they mean is, they don’t want to reveal they never investigate their paymasters.

The regulator basically wrote an email saying that EdF are lovely and I was/am a c-word. I won't go back on my word, so I payed the 1k or so that was in dispute. I can afford it. Nonetheless I can't yet afford the nuclear weapons needed to express my great respect for the thoughts of those in EdF headquarters nor at the regulatory hub of sin. Saving mind.

(For future US authority review: I have never, nor do I plan to acquire nuclear weapons)

JohnLilburne · December 12

Eabhal said:
Widespread disgust on facebook this evening on the news that the State Pension will go up in line with the Triple Lock. People think it should be at least the value of the minimum wage (£25k per year).

The minimum wage is an hourly rate, so there's no read across

williamglenn · December 12

rcs1000 said:
Would anyone like to bet on whether The Truss Club will actually ever go live?

She should call it the Ex-Prime Ministers' Club - "The most exclusive club in the country".

kinabalu · December 12

Cookie said:

carnforth said:

WhisperingOracle said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
Evening, P..B.

Please stay on the line.
Your call is important to us.
Please note that abuse of staff will not be tolerated.
If you are ringing about our Luckyday Bimgo Free Power offer, or have had any problems using your Luckyday Bingo Free Power offer coupons, please press 4.
I called up the gas emergency line last night and spoke to a nice, ruthlessly competant lady, and an engineer - communicative and sensible - was on the scene in 30 minutes. So when it's urgent, or in their interests, they can actually do things well.
I had dealings with United Utilities this week. My heart sank, expecting to lose hours of my life to bots and onkine menus and heavily accented call centre staff. But none of that. They were excellent, answering the phone promptly and friendlily, and escalating the issue until an engineer competent enough to resolve the issue could be found. Well done UU.

It's happening. A decade of National Renewal isn't big bang, it's the slow steady accumulation of incremental improvements in people's everyday experience of life in Britain. We had some potholes fixed last week. Tory potholes that had been there since 2011.

Malmesbury · December 12

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.
Candidates are asked show their workings when jumping from one topic to another.
You are showing dissatisfaction with The Process. Literally.

There will be an elaborate chart of how they deal with your enquiry. Optimised for the companies convenience - rather than yourself or the people manning the Hell Desk(s).

Companies that have reputation for good customer service exist. They design The Process around the goal of customer satisfaction. They even modify the Process to improve on this.

They worship the goal, not the method.
No, I just couldn't work out why you replied to my post as you did. Simple as that.

A poster the other day claimed that criticising the Process State was Right Wing. Bit funny, since the person in question claims to be a left anarchist.

Omnium · December 12

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

Malmesbury said:

Omnium said:

OldKingCole said:

squareroot2 said:
Season of good cheer? Not fffing likely.. you ring EDF. No human to speak to but lots of bullshit about the bot helping to make it easier.
These ffing morons just don't care. They know they are lying when they say it will make things easier.

If it wasn't my late father in.law"s account I would tell them to put their account where the sun doesn't shine. .
I’m dealing an insurance company that’s a bit like that.
EdF are beyond awful. They'll never be the first against the wall in any Omnium administration - deeper dungeons await them. No doubt most of the utility companies are ok until they're very much not. So far Octopus seems pretty good (4-5 years).

But not worshiping The Process is “Right Wing”, so we’ve been told.

Presumably, using the word Ergonomic is grounds for calling Prevent.
Candidates are asked show their workings when jumping from one topic to another.
You are showing dissatisfaction with The Process. Literally.

There will be an elaborate chart of how they deal with your enquiry. Optimised for the companies convenience - rather than yourself or the people manning the Hell Desk(s).

Companies that have reputation for good customer service exist. They design The Process around the goal of customer satisfaction. They even modify the Process to improve on this.

They worship the goal, not the method.
No, I just couldn't work out why you replied to my post as you did. Simple as that.
A poster the other day claimed that criticising the Process State was Right Wing. Bit funny, since the person in question claims to be a left anarchist.

If you look back I think you will work out why I failed to connect the dots. I still can't. But I'll forgive you as once in a while you are the source of the most excellent book suggestions.

DecrepiterJohnL · December 12

HYUFD said:
Not even Whites or Soho House charge £500k for membership, so whatever Truss is offering better be good

He was a long-standing member of White's, though not by any means its most welcome or respected one, and of the Beefsteak.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1490428/Alastair-Forbes.html (£££)

Detail from a 20 years' old obituary I was reading earlier.

Eabhal · December 12

JohnLilburne said:

Eabhal said:
Widespread disgust on facebook this evening on the news that the State Pension will go up in line with the Triple Lock. People think it should be at least the value of the minimum wage (£25k per year).
The minimum wage is an hourly rate, so there's no read across

I shall remind the commenters of that, I'm sure they'll take it well.

kle4 · December 12

AI has so much potential, so why do techbro companies seem so keen on using it in areas where it would cost almost nothing to get a human being to do the task instead, and the latter would make fewer mistakes? Christ, innumerable people do things like this for free on Youtube.

Amazon has pulled a video recap made with artificial intelligence (AI) from its hit TV show Fallout after users said it got several facts wrong about the series.

The firm said in November it was testing the "first-of-its-kind" tool in the US to help viewers catch up on some of its shows on streaming service Prime Video - including Fallout, its adaptation of the popular video game franchise...

"Video Recaps use AI to summarise a show's most pertinent plot points with a theatrical-quality video that includes narration, dialogue, and music," it said, external.

But fans eagerly awaiting the release of the next series of Fallout on 17 December highlighted errors introduced in its video recap for its first series.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3r77j5nze5o

If you have a spare half a million pounds this may interest you – politicalbetting.com

Comments