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  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,081
    edited 12:29AM
    Andy_JS said:

    "The revolt on Streeting’s doorstep
    Leanne Mohamad is poised to overthrow him
    Felix Pope"

    https://unherd.com/2025/12/the-revolt-on-streetings-doorstep/

    The concentration on 2024's close result is understandable but the real story is the collapse of the Conservative vote in what used to be a Tory safe seat, as shown in this graph:-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford_North#/media/File:Ilf_N_Election_Results.png
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713

    Andy_JS said:

    "The revolt on Streeting’s doorstep
    Leanne Mohamad is poised to overthrow him
    Felix Pope"

    https://unherd.com/2025/12/the-revolt-on-streetings-doorstep/

    The concentration on 2024's close result is understandable but the real story is the collapse of the Conservative vote in what used to be a Tory safe seat, as shown in this graph:-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford_North#/media/File:Ilf_N_Election_Results.png
    There's been a big decline in the Jewish population in the constituency.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713
    "What would the basis of a Tory/Reform pact actually be?
    Henry Hill"

    https://conservativehome.com/2025/12/04/what-would-the-basis-of-a-tory-reform-pact-actually-be/
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788

    Trump says that American football should be renamed so it doesn't clash with real football.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1997001519829242351

    I knew I liked him.
    So-called real football is Soccer.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788

    Pro_Rata said:

    kjh said:

    I keep trying to convince my wife that driving on a motorway is safer and much less stressful than driving on a winding country road that isn't always wide enough for two vehicles to pass.

    We'll never agree on this.

    A few months back I was driving and we ended up taking a ridiculous route to end up at a destination about half a mile from a junction of the M62. I was not pleased!

    I often take one route to go somewhere and a different route back. I don't know why.

    I prefer winding roads to motorways as I enjoy driving them and hate motorways. If I'm on a long journey I use the motorway but get very bored very quickly. I am not capable of driving long distances on a motorway and don't know how people manage that.
    In the past I drove quite often from Llandudno to Lossiemouth in the day using motorways, the infamous A9, and county roads from Aviemore

    A distance of 456 miles and I could do all of that and back to Perth on a tank of diesel

    It is now way beyond my ability
    I think the furthest I've driven in one day is SE London to Campbelltown, about 550 miles.
    My dad drove us from Ilford (east London) to Aviemore in a single day, back in 1989.
    And so terrified you into travelling everywhere by train?
    Was your Dad racing a Class 47 over Drumochter?
    My wife and I travelled on a class 47 over Drumochter many times
    I once drove 650 miles in a day from Achiltibuie to Islington. It was downhill all the way.
    I noted with a mild sadness after looking at Google maps and then cross checking a few months ago that the Hydroponicum seems to be long gone.

    The best named tourist attraction ever.
    It was named by Robert Irving, owner of the Summer Isles Hotel and father of Castaway Lucy. Originally just a collection of poly tunnels on the croft below the hotel, to provide fresh veg for the guests, it was later developed as a tourist destination with Wester Ross bananas a headline attraction. Sadly it cost far more to run than it could ever recoup in ticket money and eventually it was demolished. The site has now reverted to a community garden and it looked a bit forlorn when I was there in June.

    And the hotel is being revamped and not due to reopen until 2027.
    Summer Isles Hotel.

    Once had a few beers in there. Marvellous.

    Was Britt Eklands stunt double cavorting around stark bollock naked in the room next door trying to tempt you ?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713

    Trump says that American football should be renamed so it doesn't clash with real football.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1997001519829242351

    Trump trying to annoy Americans and please everyone else. Unusual.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Although still highly unlikely to win it’s brilliant to see the Windies making a decent fist of the test in NZ.

    Cricket needs a decent Windies side.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,774
    CatMan said:

    Record broken for wind power generated

    https://grid.iamkate.com/

    (In the UK, not what's going on at the FIFA draw)

    We weren't far off achieving Net Zero for electricity transmission last night.

    If you add Wind, Hydroelectric and Nuclear I think it came to about 78% of electricity generation.

    If only the rest of the world could do the same, and electrify everything.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,689
    Wicket!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,232

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    Was she always this bonkers or did she go completely hatstand after her fall from office?

    What on earth were the Tories playing at by putting her in charge?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,292

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    She isn’t wrong about an elite group that’s destroying Britain.

    But she flatters herself if she thinks her actions were secret.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,403

    The radical right seem confused. My X timeline is full of them warning about birth rate collapse in the West and then followed by complaints about welfare payments for people with more than two children.

    People who hate immigrants often hate lots of other people too.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,081
    Foxy said:

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    Was she always this bonkers or did she go completely hatstand after her fall from office?

    What on earth were the Tories playing at by putting her in charge?
    Have you forgotten already the bloke immediately before Liz Truss?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,982

    The radical right seem confused. My X timeline is full of them warning about birth rate collapse in the West and then followed by complaints about welfare payments for people with more than two children.

    They assume it’s the wrong sort (colour/religion) of people getting the incentives.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,403
    Foxy said:

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    Was she always this bonkers or did she go completely hatstand after her fall from office?

    What on earth were the Tories playing at by putting her in charge?
    She was bonkers beforehand, I couldn't understand how the Tories put her in charge - although even I didn't expect her to implode that spectacularly. She has definitely become more unhinged since though. It's sad actually - someone close to her should intervene. A former British PM shouldn't be behaving like this, it demeans the office and the country.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,982
    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,073

    Prosecutions in Virginia in turmoil. The Trump DOJ are insisting that Lindsey Halligan is the top attorney, even though a judge ruled she was not appointed properly (as Trump skipped Senate approval): https://youtu.be/OKLmHXU3w5E Other judges refusing to accept her name on documents. The US government is just ignoring a court ruling they don't like. The rule of law is disintegrating.

    "Where-ever law ends, tyranny begins"

    https://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/john-locke-on-the-idea-that-wherever-law-ends-tyranny-begins-1689
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,982
    viewcode said:

    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    I've been enjoying it - but I'm still not sure where it's going with..."it all".
    It does have an awful feeling of "Lost". There are only a few possible endings

    Carol achieves nothing
    Carol Joins
    Carol dies
    Carol kills the unJoined
    Carol kills the Joined
    Carol makes the Joined separate voluntarily
    Carol makes the Joined separate involuntarily

    The Joined separate voluntarily
    The Joined die
    The Joined remain joined

    The Joined join further with terrestrial nonhumans (trees, elephants, whatevs) and we go full Gaia
    The Joined join further with extraterrestrial nonhumans (aliens, whatevs) and we go full Galaxia

    Pause

    Time travel :(
    How about Carol takes a shower and realises it was all a dream?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_(1978_TV_series)_season_9
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,292

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,172
    viewcode said:

    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    I've been enjoying it - but I'm still not sure where it's going with..."it all".
    It does have an awful feeling of "Lost". There are only a few possible endings

    Carol achieves nothing
    Carol Joins
    Carol dies
    Carol kills the unJoined
    Carol kills the Joined
    Carol makes the Joined separate voluntarily
    Carol makes the Joined separate involuntarily

    The Joined separate voluntarily
    The Joined die
    The Joined remain joined

    The Joined join further with terrestrial nonhumans (trees, elephants, whatevs) and we go full Gaia
    The Joined join further with extraterrestrial nonhumans (aliens, whatevs) and we go full Galaxia

    Pause

    Time travel :(
    I'm sad to say I found the writing in engaging, and gave up after an episode. It does the great Rhea Seehorn no favours.

    Vince Gilligan's style works when rooted in character and (heightened) reality. With this material, it just seems ... plodding.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,172
    Andy_JS said:

    Trump says that American football should be renamed so it doesn't clash with real football.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1997001519829242351

    Trump trying to annoy Americans and please everyone else. Unusual.
    I don't think the NFL are going to go for "Trumpball",

    It's just more Trump balls.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,172
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
    I'm trying to imagine our openers successfully navigating the twilight session.
    But my imagination just isn't up to it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,292
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
    I'm trying to imagine our openers successfully navigating the twilight session.
    But my imagination just isn't up to it.
    What’s frustrating is that with even moderately sensible batting from three more players England could have got 500.

    That’s the weakness of Bazball and why it isn’t going to work against a side as good as Australia.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793
    edited 6:41AM
    Anybody actually read the header?

    "it’s an earlier area he is vulnerable"
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,182
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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793
    I once set off from near Reading to Inverness at 6.00am and was back near Reading by 1.00 am.

    The route I took measured 1,150 miles.

    Ivory Gull, if you were wondering.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
    I'm trying to imagine our openers successfully navigating the twilight session.
    But my imagination just isn't up to it.
    Imagine your worst...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793
    edited 6:55AM

    Foxy said:

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    Was she always this bonkers or did she go completely hatstand after her fall from office?

    What on earth were the Tories playing at by putting her in charge?
    She was bonkers beforehand, I couldn't understand how the Tories put her in charge - although even I didn't expect her to implode that spectacularly. She has definitely become more unhinged since though. It's sad actually - someone close to her should intervene. A former British PM shouldn't be behaving like this, it demeans the office and the country.
    The only thing she had going for her was a dogged determination to get on and make trade deals. The membership approved of that.

    But she was the worst choice they could have made, even if they had opened it up to non-MPs.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,257
    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: no tip, but here's today's early pre-qualifying ramble. Advantage Norris:
    https://morrisf1.blogspot.com/2025/12/abu-dhabi-2025-pre-qualifying.html
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,240

    I once set off from near Reading to Inverness at 6.00am and was back near Reading by 1.00 am.

    The route I took measured 1,150 miles.

    Ivory Gull, if you were wondering.

    I hope you saw one after that!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793

    I once set off from near Reading to Inverness at 6.00am and was back near Reading by 1.00 am.

    The route I took measured 1,150 miles.

    Ivory Gull, if you were wondering.

    I hope you saw one after that!
    Yup - and a whole bunch of dolphins.

    I was driving for 17 hours, so averaged under 70 mph, officer. (Although I suspect most of the motorway driving would have averaged 90....)

    Was thirty years ago. Traffic is so much heavier now you couldn't get close.)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,561

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    To think this woman was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, even if it was only for five minutes. Gladstone would weep.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,292
    FF43 said:

    The Liz Truss show is just hilarious.

    I gave up after about ten minutes, but I might go back in again when I can breath.

    Apparently there is a some kind of secret elite destroying Britain and a woman whose father was an academic, who read PPE at Oxford, worked at Shell, was involved in think tanks and became PM and privy councillor in her 40s after various posts in Cabinet is the absolute perfect person to tell us all.

    To think this woman was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, even if it was only for five minutes. Gladstone would weep.
    More likely to try and save her.

    Whom or what she would be saved for, I’ll leave up to you…
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,793
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
    I'm trying to imagine our openers successfully navigating the twilight session.
    But my imagination just isn't up to it.
    The Aussies seem determined to ensure we go into another day.

    Presuming those with the telly rights have "had a word..."
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,292

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    I don't know if any of you are watching "Pluribus", but if you are and you want to see John Cena explain why it's OK to eat people, here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLr1hgAgDdU .

    Eating people is wrong!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msWfIkyDzH0

    (Even if it is roast leg of insurance salesman)
    Tell the Aussies that, as they are eating England alive.
    I'm trying to imagine our openers successfully navigating the twilight session.
    But my imagination just isn't up to it.
    The Aussies seem determined to ensure we go into another day.

    Presuming those with the telly rights have "had a word..."
    Is that why Smith hasn't declared yet?
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