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NEW: Zarah Sultana is boycotting the first day of Your Party conferenceShe’s protesting against expulsions of members – won’t be setting foot on conference grounds todaySpokesperson for Sultana: “Zarah spox: "Zarah met members outside the conference and condemned the recent…

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  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,729
    Splitters!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Your party is over!
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,823
    What a turnip she is. In other turnip news I think a police camera on a bridge got me today. I await a letter to my turnip field.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,308
    Have Your Party done a single thing right since their "launch"?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,897
    carnforth said:

    What a turnip she is. In other turnip news I think a police camera on a bridge got me today. I await a letter to my turnip field.

    If you say turnip three times, you summon @malcolmg
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,036
    edited 3:22PM
    MightyAlex said:

    Taz said:

    Shit going down in Venezuela https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1994750179791311042?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    How many people have to die for the American oil industry? I cannot believe they will control the whole territory so it'll be hold the oil fields and drone the provinces alla Syria. Then Cuba just before November 2028.
    One of the strange features of this is that Chevron still operate in Venezuela, as do ENI (Italian oil company).

    I don't see Trump invading; it will be air attacks and a hope that the Venezuelan Government caves in. There may be some CIA targeted assassinations.

    One other emerging item is that the USN finished off survivors of a missile attack on a boat from Venezuela with a second attack:

    While the first strike appeared to disable the boat and cause deaths, the military assessed there were survivors, according to the sources. The second attack killed the remaining crew on board, bringing the total death toll to 11, and sunk the ship.

    Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had ordered the military prior to the operation to ensure the strike killed everyone on board, but it’s not clear if he knew there were survivors prior to the second strike, one of the sources said.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/politics/us-military-second-strike-caribbean
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,308
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    solarflare said:

    Have Your Party done a single thing right since their "launch"?

    Yes, they've given me a lot of material for PB headers, for that I am very grateful.
    I suppose until we launch the Political Betting Party that is in itself a valuable service.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,659
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Like it 😂
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,036
    At least it's the right season for it.

    Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush ...
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,023
    edited 3:27PM
    MattW said:

    MightyAlex said:

    Taz said:

    Shit going down in Venezuela https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1994750179791311042?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    How many people have to die for the American oil industry? I cannot believe they will control the whole territory so it'll be hold the oil fields and drone the provinces alla Syria. Then Cuba just before November 2028.
    One of the strange features of this is that Chevron still operate in Venezuela, as do ENI (Italian oil company).

    I don't see Trump invading; it will be air attacks and a hope that the Venezuelan Government caves in. There may be some CIA targeted assassinations.

    One other emerging item is that the USN finished off survivors of a missile attack on a boat from Venezuela with a second attack:

    While the first strike appeared to disable the boat and cause deaths, the military assessed there were survivors, according to the sources. The second attack killed the remaining crew on board, bringing the total death toll to 11, and sunk the ship.

    Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had ordered the military prior to the operation to ensure the strike killed everyone on board, but it’s not clear if he knew there were survivors prior to the second strike, one of the sources said.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/politics/us-military-second-strike-caribbean
    Leave no witnesses. Did Donald pick up that suggestion from Putin during their chat in Alaska?

    Some Republicans are getting worried that they'll be taken out too by MAGAloons aka Proud Boys/Oath Keepers. All fitting into place.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5625417-lawmakers-targeted-amid-violence/
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,890
    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,614
    Whose party?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,409
    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,897
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Venison?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,729
    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Venison?
    Whats your beef?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,409
    MattW said:

    MightyAlex said:

    Taz said:

    Shit going down in Venezuela https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1994750179791311042?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    How many people have to die for the American oil industry? I cannot believe they will control the whole territory so it'll be hold the oil fields and drone the provinces alla Syria. Then Cuba just before November 2028.
    One of the strange features of this is that Chevron still operate in Venezuela, as do ENI (Italian oil company).

    I don't see Trump invading; it will be air attacks and a hope that the Venezuelan Government caves in. There may be some CIA targeted assassinations.

    One other emerging item is that the USN finished off survivors of a missile attack on a boat from Venezuela with a second attack:

    While the first strike appeared to disable the boat and cause deaths, the military assessed there were survivors, according to the sources. The second attack killed the remaining crew on board, bringing the total death toll to 11, and sunk the ship.

    Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had ordered the military prior to the operation to ensure the strike killed everyone on board, but it’s not clear if he knew there were survivors prior to the second strike, one of the sources said.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/politics/us-military-second-strike-caribbean
    What time will Mr Trump be outlining his peace plan?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,379
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    Good afternoon

    I imagine the Greens cannot believe their luck
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,341
    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,890
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    noneoftheabove said:

    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Venison?
    Whats your beef?
    https://www.quorn.co.uk/recipes/quorn-vegetarian-roast-wellington
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    AnneJGP said:

    MattW said:

    MightyAlex said:

    Taz said:

    Shit going down in Venezuela https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1994750179791311042?s=46&t=d8CnRhyZJ-m4vy0k55W8XQ

    How many people have to die for the American oil industry? I cannot believe they will control the whole territory so it'll be hold the oil fields and drone the provinces alla Syria. Then Cuba just before November 2028.
    One of the strange features of this is that Chevron still operate in Venezuela, as do ENI (Italian oil company).

    I don't see Trump invading; it will be air attacks and a hope that the Venezuelan Government caves in. There may be some CIA targeted assassinations.

    One other emerging item is that the USN finished off survivors of a missile attack on a boat from Venezuela with a second attack:

    While the first strike appeared to disable the boat and cause deaths, the military assessed there were survivors, according to the sources. The second attack killed the remaining crew on board, bringing the total death toll to 11, and sunk the ship.

    Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had ordered the military prior to the operation to ensure the strike killed everyone on board, but it’s not clear if he knew there were survivors prior to the second strike, one of the sources said.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/28/politics/us-military-second-strike-caribbean
    What time will Mr Trump be outlining his peace plan?
    I can outline it now.

    1. The Venezuelans do what the Americans tell them to do
    2. The Venezuelans set up a $100bn development fund, to be headed by DJT
    3. Repeat 1 & 2.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Like it 😂
    Really? For me, a steak and chips any time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    At the moment they seem principally to be aiming at their own feet.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,341
    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    The name should probably have Labour in it. The sell is surely that Labour has been taken over by a sinister cadre of corporate sellouts, and [tbc] party is the true successor of Benn's Labour. I would say True Labour would work best sound-wise - being a riposte to 'New Labour'. But Authentic Labour might work better where parties were listed alphabetically.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    noneoftheabove said:

    Malmesbury said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    It’s a shitshow. The Greens are eating their lunch

    Vegan or vegetarian?
    Venison?
    Whats your beef?
    That £800k being mishandled smacked more of the pork barrel.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    Kudos to Nick Palmer for attempting to defend the indefensible.

    Your Party is just another vanity project.
    The problem is, no-one can agree whose vanity it is meant to promote - though it looks like the Corbynists are winning out.

    I think they’ll struggle to break the three seat threshold at the next election. Jeremy Corbyn will be 80 or more.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,599
    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    Monster Raving Loony Party is sadly already taken.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,603
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    The name should probably have Labour in it. The sell is surely that Labour has been taken over by a sinister cadre of corporate sellouts, and [tbc] party is the true successor of Benn's Labour. I would say True Labour would work best sound-wise - being a riposte to 'New Labour'. But Authentic Labour might work better where parties were listed alphabetically.
    Pretty sure that the Electoral Commission wouldn't allow them to register anything with "Labour" in for electoral use.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,036
    edited 3:55PM
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    The Self-Fluffing Party.

    or .. er .. Yesterday's Party.

    I think sensible Greens know that going too far down this route will torpedo the Greens with some people they need in their voter base.

    Too Far usually leads to Too Few. See "The Jumblies".
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    theProle said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    The name should probably have Labour in it. The sell is surely that Labour has been taken over by a sinister cadre of corporate sellouts, and [tbc] party is the true successor of Benn's Labour. I would say True Labour would work best sound-wise - being a riposte to 'New Labour'. But Authentic Labour might work better where parties were listed alphabetically.
    Pretty sure that the Electoral Commission wouldn't allow them to register anything with "Labour" in for electoral use.
    They are socialists. Do they operate nationwide?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,389
    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    MattW said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    The Self-Fluffing Party.

    or .. er .. Yesterday's Party.

    I think sensible Greens know that going to far down this route will torpedo the Greens with some people they need in their voter base.
    The Greens don’t and won’t have the organizational controls to avoid infiltration.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    Is “Absolute Shite” one of the options being considered for the new name?

    It would be the most authentic.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,290
    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    If given five years in power, one will save the planet, the other will potentially have chosen a name and appointed someone to manage the bank account.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    edited 3:58PM
    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.

    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)
    Much to learn they still have.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,341
    edited 3:58PM
    ...
    Gardenwalker said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    Monster Raving Loony Party is sadly already taken.
    Better than the Greens. A party that thinks we should all march forward under the banner of communism for me beats a party that thinks it would be broadly better if we didn't exist at all, so let's take every step possible in that direction. One is deeply misguided and wrong-headed, one is a disease of the mind.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    Burgessian said:

    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

    You voted for Mr Coburn?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    edited 3:59PM
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    edited 3:59PM
    Gardenwalker said:

    Is “Absolute Shite” one of the options being considered for the new name?

    It would be the most authentic.

    They look to have fallen between and indeed into many stools.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    ydoethur said:

    theProle said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    The name should probably have Labour in it. The sell is surely that Labour has been taken over by a sinister cadre of corporate sellouts, and [tbc] party is the true successor of Benn's Labour. I would say True Labour would work best sound-wise - being a riposte to 'New Labour'. But Authentic Labour might work better where parties were listed alphabetically.
    Pretty sure that the Electoral Commission wouldn't allow them to register anything with "Labour" in for electoral use.
    They are socialists. Do they operate nationwide?
    That is just nasti.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,534
    Your Party was described as 6 MPs and 4 factions. Seems feeble. Couldn't they manage 4 MPs and 6 factions?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    Luke and Leia are leaders of the rebel alliance.

    I would look to lay a party called the Rebel Alliance in betting terms.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    You have to be a touch liberal with the pronunciation and think betfair. But it is very good.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    edited 4:05PM
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    Luke and Leia are leaders of the rebel alliance.

    I would look to lay a party called the Rebel Alliance in betting terms.
    Oh! Thanks ... rather impressive really.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,290
    Carnyx said:

    Burgessian said:

    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

    You voted for Mr Coburn?
    Eh? More likely to have voted for Eck than him. Which is to say, NIET.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    noneoftheabove said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    You have to be a touch liberal with the pronunciation and think betfair. But it is very good.
    Thank you.

    Somebody appreciates me, anyway.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,791
    Burgessian said:

    Carnyx said:

    Burgessian said:

    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

    You voted for Mr Coburn?
    Eh? More likely to have voted for Eck than him. Which is to say, NIET.
    I wasn't being serious! I do apologise if you thought I was.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    Burgessian said:

    Carnyx said:

    Burgessian said:

    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

    You voted for Mr Coburn?
    Eh? More likely to have voted for Eck than him. Which is to say, NIET.
    Although Salmond AIR had a few issues with Russian payments and Putin a good word in for dodgy people.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,341
    Gardenwalker said:

    Is “Absolute Shite” one of the options being considered for the new name?

    It would be the most authentic.

    I thought that your 'Monster raving loony party' gag was a real rib-tickler, but this 'absolute shite' corker almost tops it for sheer giggle-factor.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,729
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    Luke and Leia are leaders of the rebel alliance.

    I would look to lay a party called the Rebel Alliance in betting terms.
    Every egos Solo aspirations mean they can't Organa-ise anything.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    Luke and Leia are leaders of the rebel alliance.

    I would look to lay a party called the Rebel Alliance in betting terms.
    Every egos Solo aspirations mean they can't Organa-ise anything.
    They just can't get a Handle on the factions.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,389
    Off topic - What is Reeves doing with the pension tax stuff. Just making tax law up on the hoof with no parliamentary oversight, query or well anything; just extraordinary tbh
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,290
    Carnyx said:

    Burgessian said:

    Carnyx said:

    Burgessian said:

    Longer-serving Scotch PBers may remember with affection (or not) David Coburn. Former UKIP/Brexit MEP for Scotland.

    Making news for all the wrong reasons.: "Former Brexit Party MEP denies taking payment from pro-Russian campaign"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn09x11yr7ro

    Rather wonderfully, he lives in France. A truly pantomimic figure in his prime.

    A cherished memory is of Alex Salmond's surprise and indignation during election night coverage when it transpired that Coburn had won the sixth and last MEP seat for Scotland, which Salmond was fully expecting to go to the SNP.

    You voted for Mr Coburn?
    Eh? More likely to have voted for Eck than him. Which is to say, NIET.
    I wasn't being serious! I do apologise if you thought I was.
    Well, you can't be too careful...
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,729
    ydoethur said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    Clearly they are not particularly allied either so they needn't worry about the accuracy of popular. They are rebels, they should own it.
    ’Rebel Alliance’ would still not be easy to sell. I would Luke to Leia party called that.
    (Reposted in the hopes you ungrateful bastards will give me more than one like this time!)

    (And that was moved to a separate comment in case it caused you to have second thoughts…)
    That's because I can't understand the pun. For about the first time that I can remember for your puns.
    Not a Star Wars fan then?
    Oh, I saw the first film with my student mates, so I know roughly who Leia is. Some sort of furry enthusiast. I just don't understand the pun.
    Luke and Leia are leaders of the rebel alliance.

    I would look to lay a party called the Rebel Alliance in betting terms.
    Every egos Solo aspirations mean they can't Organa-ise anything.
    They just can't get a Handle on the factions.
    Which is a Wookie error.
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 807
    MattW said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    The Self-Fluffing Party.

    or .. er .. Yesterday's Party.

    I think sensible Greens know that going too far down this route will torpedo the Greens with some people they need in their voter base.

    Too Far usually leads to Too Few. See "The Jumblies".
    If it was the Self-Fluffing Party, it could become the Yes Yes Yes -terday Party.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,389
    noneoftheabove said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    If given five years in power, one will save the planet, the other will potentially have chosen a name and appointed someone to manage the bank account.
    That the Greens would implement autarky more competently than Your Party isn't in doubt but what's the actual policy difference lol
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,890
    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    YP policy is still a work in progress, but in general terms it's solidly left-wing and less interested in ecology. The Greens are currently left-wing under the present leadership but it's not as definite.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,603
    FPT
    bondegezou said:

    Two jailed for trying to smuggle migrants out of UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g6we53g9vo

    I don’t know if Reform would approve or disapprove???

    That's one of the weirder news stories of the past week. Why would anyone want to be smuggled out of the UK? Or is this some sort of trafficking, rather than willing passengers?

    The reporting also leaves more questions than answers - in particular, the complete absence of an intended destination.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    Pulpstar said:

    Off topic - What is Reeves doing with the pension tax stuff. Just making tax law up on the hoof with no parliamentary oversight, query or well anything; just extraordinary tbh

    I would just interpret it as an admission that the personal allowance will increase to match state pension from next year. Not announced within the budget as it would make the spreadsheet look worse.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,308
    JohnLilburne said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    "Decided Tomorrow" is the best they have come up with yet, although I still prefer the "Rebel Alliance". Gets them on a solid 3% base from Star Wars fans and describes the motley crew pretty well.
    Apparently "Popular Alliance" is one of the options. Which is a bit of a hostage to fortune as they may turn out not to be very, well, popular. Surely "People's Alliance" would be better, means much the same thing and sounds friendlier.
    All well and good until "Unpopular Alliance" beats them at the ballot box.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,829
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    Good afternoon

    I imagine the Greens cannot believe their luck
    Depends which Greens.

    If I were a boring sensible Green, who believes in getting more support for less pollution in a Conservative-facing area, I would be retiring to a quiet dark place to gently sob. All that effort up the swanee, thanks to hypnoboobs.

    Basically the way that boring, non-populist Conservatives felt during the Rise Of Boris.

    As for the Green vs. Your Party difference, isn't it that one is for young socially liberal left wing populists, and the other is for old, socially conservative left wing populists?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,221
    IanB2 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    It's dead at birth, Nick. Swallow your pride, and stick with your Blairite chums, or go join the Greens.
    E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This party is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

    'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
    'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
    'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!!

    THIS IS AN EX-PARTY!!

    (with apologies to both John Cleese and the scriptwriter who foolishly thought Thatcher could do parrot gags).
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,954
    Pulpstar said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    If given five years in power, one will save the planet, the other will potentially have chosen a name and appointed someone to manage the bank account.
    That the Greens would implement autarky more competently than Your Party isn't in doubt but what's the actual policy difference lol
    The Rebel Alliance have yet to form any policies, so how can we compare them?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,009
    This Wales vs South Africa rugby match might be banned in certain countries for indecency.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,754
    Thinking of the "People's Front of Judea" meme, of course in real life, you have:

    Palestinian National Liberation Movement (Fatah)
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
    Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC)
    Palestinian People's Party (PPP)
    Arab Liberation Front (ALF)
    Vanguard for the Popular Liberation War – Lightning Forces (As-Sa'iqa)
    Palestinian Liberation Front (PLF)
    Palestinian Arab Front (PAF)
    Palestinian Democratic Union (FIDA)
    Palestinian Popular Struggle Front (PPSF)
    Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
    Palestinian Islamic Jihad
    Popular Resistance Committees
    Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
    Palestinian Mujahideen Movement
    Palestinian Freedom Movement
    Abdul al-Qadir al-Husseini Brigades
    Fatah al-Intifada
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,019
    SandraMc said:

    MattW said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    The Self-Fluffing Party.

    or .. er .. Yesterday's Party.

    I think sensible Greens know that going too far down this route will torpedo the Greens with some people they need in their voter base.

    Too Far usually leads to Too Few. See "The Jumblies".
    If it was the Self-Fluffing Party, it could become the Yes Yes Yes -terday Party.
    I thought I would have to play with the lyrics of Yesterday to fit but actually they do already

    Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
    Now it looks as though they're here to stay
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
    Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
    There's a shadow hanging over me
    Oh, yesterday came suddenly
    Why she had to go
    I don't know, she wouldn't say
    I said something wrong
    Now I long for yesterday
    Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
    Why she had to go
    I don't know, she wouldn't say
    I said something wrong
    Now I long for yesterday
    Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,606
    Great ad for Labour.

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,019
    MaxPB said:

    This Wales vs South Africa rugby match might be banned in certain countries for indecency.

    Cant' they throw a towel onto the pitch or something? 0-68. Bloody hell.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,881
    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    Your Party is expelling members of the SWP. The Green Party welcomes them with open arms.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,881
    Will she give up on YP and become a Green, Sultana?
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,095
    Could anyone seriously imagine this crew running the country?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,741
    I hope Your Party never work out their differences, their squabbling has been hilarious.

    What I cannot figure out is whether it's members have been genuniely surprised that left wing factional infighting exists, since they have seemed shocked by it.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    edited 5:14PM
    Scottsdale, Arizona is achingly prosperous under the sun and blue skies of late fall.

    Sometimes I question my decision to spend my adult life in a series of grey old places.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,019
    OllyT said:

    Could anyone seriously imagine this crew running the country?

    You'd have to ask the Labour Party members. It is no less incredible in hindsight than it was at the time.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,741
    BlancheLivermore said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What are the actual policy differences between Your Party and the Greens ?

    YP policy is still a work in progress, but in general terms it's solidly left-wing and less interested in ecology. The Greens are currently left-wing under the present leadership but it's not as definite.
    Less interested in ecology?

    The Greens display no interest in it at all at the moment
    I mean, I'm sure they do still care about it, but I've long thought (and it seems their leadership would agree based on how they focus on things) that it doesn't really distinguish them that much, since many other parties are very green too - heck, even some Tories are very green. Even if peopel think Labour or LDs have dropped the ball on it, individual members within can be very green.

    But for now at least they still seem to have retained the reputation of being mostly focused on green issues.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,767
    I hadn’t realized that the ousted Yermak was also Zelensky’s peace negotiator.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,883
    I nominate Zarah Sultana as Labour parliamentarian of the year, the one who has done most to ensure the continuing relevance of the Labour party into future years.

    Well, honestly, tell me there's another candidate.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,470
    Gardenwalker said:

    Scottsdale, Arizona is achingly prosperous under the sun and blue skies of late fall.

    Sometimes I question my decision to spend my adult life in a series of grey old places.

    Home of the golf hooligan every February.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,276
    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    With “Your Party” one of the options and likely to win.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,829
    edited 5:24PM
    bondegezou said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    NickPalmer said:

    Clearly Zara's move is unhelpful and will dominate the reports in the media. That said, I've been watching most of the conference online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-755kRtHWdw) and it's overwhelmingly polite and friendly - Lee's Harpin's description of "chaos" is just silly.

    Your Party is a very silly name. It's lazy. We are whatever 'you' want us to be.

    They should say what they are, and give people something to rally to.

    Possibly the issue is that there's not really anything there they think people will want to rally to.
    It was an interim name - the long-term name will be decided tomorrow.
    With “Your Party” one of the options and likely to win.
    "long-term" name is optimistic, though.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,226
    Pro_Rata said:

    I nominate Zarah Sultana as Labour parliamentarian of the year, the one who has done most to ensure the continuing relevance of the Labour party into future years.

    Well, honestly, tell me there's another candidate.

    I hold my hands up in shame. A year or so ago, I commented that Sultana could have a great future, was quite charismatic, and could mature into the UK equivalent of AOC or similar.

    I was completely and utterly wrong. She's gone rapidly backwards, and shows no judgement.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,995
    DavidL said:

    SandraMc said:

    MattW said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    AnneJGP said:

    With Jeremy Corbyn as a leader, it's unlikely I would ever consider voting for That Party, but I'm baffled over which segment of the electorate they're aiming at.

    They're stroking their own egos more than aiming at the electorate. Hence why everyone has handbags drawn over the slightest thing.

    If they were serious about the electorate they'd join the Greens, but they're not.
    The Self-Fluffing Party.

    or .. er .. Yesterday's Party.

    I think sensible Greens know that going too far down this route will torpedo the Greens with some people they need in their voter base.

    Too Far usually leads to Too Few. See "The Jumblies".
    If it was the Self-Fluffing Party, it could become the Yes Yes Yes -terday Party.
    I thought I would have to play with the lyrics of Yesterday to fit but actually they do already

    Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
    Now it looks as though they're here to stay
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
    Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
    There's a shadow hanging over me
    Oh, yesterday came suddenly
    Why she had to go
    I don't know, she wouldn't say
    I said something wrong
    Now I long for yesterday
    Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
    Why she had to go
    I don't know, she wouldn't say
    I said something wrong
    Now I long for yesterday
    Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play
    Now I need a place to hide away
    Oh, I believe in yesterday
    Paul McCartney mocks Elvis' cover of "Yesterday"
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YlZy8O6veVE

    Specifically the way one crucial line is subverted by Elvis. (75 seconds.)
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