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  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    boulay said:

    I saw this and cringed so hard my feet shrank by four sizes.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1989396440939131338

    I’m getting “Regional estate agent celebrating selling a Gloucester docks flat” vibes.

    Very “mid”.
    The financial ombudsman has met many characters like that, mostly selling property in Cape Verde to 85 year old widows.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,494

    The markets could be very interesting on Monday depending on what we hear over the weekend. How many more budget news stories can we take?

    One wonders if Reeves is basically in full student essay meltdown panic mode, needing 10,000 words by Friday and hasn't got beyond the title and two bullet points with question marks. Might be forced to go for the old "dog ate my homework" routine.
    ChatGPT....I have run up a £30bn black hole in the finances in a year, growth is poor, inflation is high, unemployment is rising, my party is polling 15%, but won't accept any cuts to spending....can you produce a budget for me that will save my job and turn around our parties fortunes in the polls...

    thinking...thinking....thinking....thinking....thinking....sorry this is an impossible task. How about a nice game of Chess Global Thermonuclear War.
    This scenario combines targeted revenue measures, limited administrative savings, selective capital timing adjustments, and compliance improvements.
    Indicative total (Year 1): £30.0bn
    – Revenues: £14.0bn
    – Spending/Efficiency Savings: £10.5bn
    – Timing & One-off Receipts: £5.5bn

    Aims:
    • Deliver early credibility and market stability
    • Protect poorest households via targeted mitigations
    • Preserve high-multiplier investment (housing, skills, green transition)
    • Improve structural fiscal position over 2–3 years

    Line-by-Line Measures (Indicative, Year 1)
    Measure Type Indicative Fiscal Impact
    Freeze income tax thresholds for 2 years Revenue £7.5bn
    Tighten corporate reliefs & anti-avoidance Revenue £3.5bn
    HMRC compliance uplift (net of investment) Revenue £2.0bn
    Central admin & procurement efficiencies Spending £4.0bn
    Targeted hiring freeze / pay moderation Spending £2.5bn
    Capital spending reprioritisation (timing shift) Timing £3.0bn
    Asset recycling / non-core disposals One-off £3.0bn
    Welfare administration reform (error/fraud) Spending £1.5bn
    Targeted levies (digital/environmental) Revenue £1.0bn

    Total: £30.0bn (indicative)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    I saw this and cringed so hard my feet shrank by four sizes.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1989396440939131338

    I’m getting “Regional estate agent celebrating selling a Gloucester docks flat” vibes.

    Very “mid”.
    It is a cringe, isn't it. Very Jenrick. And I'm afraid use of "mid" creates a similar sensation. I'm hoping this is the last time we see it on here. But I don't suppose it will be. I can’t control how people express themselves.
    Terribly sorry for using a phrase that states a level of nothingness about someone who deserves it. Please feel free to list which phrases don’t give you conniptions.
    Yes ok I'll do a list of phrases I like. That's a good challenge.
    Would be helpful for a list of phrases that upset you too if that is ok?
    "I hereby declare Nigel Paul Farage elected.." ?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010
    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He did work at Cheltenham College though whether he graduated from Oxford is debateable. 'In a newspaper article he claimed to have been captain of boats at Christ Church, Oxford, before rowing at prestigious US Ivy League university, Harvard, where he allegedly completed a business degree.' https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37309833/fake-admiral-remembrance-unmasked-retired-teacher/
    So he has a top degree in BS?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,257

    Fun fact for the day: the hyrax has hidden testicles, like the elephant.

    I imagine it must be hard to hide an elephant's testicles.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,821

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1989384601127551409

    Homan: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president"

    So Starmer's not completely stupid then, he just looks it.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,257
    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    I saw this and cringed so hard my feet shrank by four sizes.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1989396440939131338

    I’m getting “Regional estate agent celebrating selling a Gloucester docks flat” vibes.

    Very “mid”.
    It is a cringe, isn't it. Very Jenrick. And I'm afraid use of "mid" creates a similar sensation. I'm hoping this is the last time we see it on here. But I don't suppose it will be. I can’t control how people express themselves.
    The yout like 'mid' innit.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,801

    Fun fact for the day: the hyrax has hidden testicles, like the elephant.

    I imagine it must be hard to hide an elephant's testicles.
    That’s why they have such gigantic ears.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    edited November 14
    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,601
    Barnesian said:

    The markets could be very interesting on Monday depending on what we hear over the weekend. How many more budget news stories can we take?

    One wonders if Reeves is basically in full student essay meltdown panic mode, needing 10,000 words by Friday and hasn't got beyond the title and two bullet points with question marks. Might be forced to go for the old "dog ate my homework" routine.
    ChatGPT....I have run up a £30bn black hole in the finances in a year, growth is poor, inflation is high, unemployment is rising, my party is polling 15%, but won't accept any cuts to spending....can you produce a budget for me that will save my job and turn around our parties fortunes in the polls...

    thinking...thinking....thinking....thinking....thinking....sorry this is an impossible task. How about a nice game of Chess Global Thermonuclear War.
    This scenario combines targeted revenue measures, limited administrative savings, selective capital timing adjustments, and compliance improvements.
    Indicative total (Year 1): £30.0bn
    – Revenues: £14.0bn
    – Spending/Efficiency Savings: £10.5bn
    – Timing & One-off Receipts: £5.5bn

    Aims:
    • Deliver early credibility and market stability
    • Protect poorest households via targeted mitigations
    • Preserve high-multiplier investment (housing, skills, green transition)
    • Improve structural fiscal position over 2–3 years

    Line-by-Line Measures (Indicative, Year 1)
    Measure Type Indicative Fiscal Impact
    Freeze income tax thresholds for 2 years Revenue £7.5bn
    Tighten corporate reliefs & anti-avoidance Revenue £3.5bn
    HMRC compliance uplift (net of investment) Revenue £2.0bn
    Central admin & procurement efficiencies Spending £4.0bn
    Targeted hiring freeze / pay moderation Spending £2.5bn
    Capital spending reprioritisation (timing shift) Timing £3.0bn
    Asset recycling / non-core disposals One-off £3.0bn
    Welfare administration reform (error/fraud) Spending £1.5bn
    Targeted levies (digital/environmental) Revenue £1.0bn

    Total: £30.0bn (indicative)
    Now we know how Nigel and Kemi got their economics policies drafted.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,601
    CatMan said:

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1989384601127551409

    Homan: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president"

    Tariff increase incoming?
    That might effect our ability to be an "AI Superpower", if you can remember those heady days. Probably meant something in the few hours between meeting rich people and making the statement. Superpower. Must be nice to say.


  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
  • HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Not sure, I think they're very special.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,601

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Next you'll be doing down Senior Sources. Then where would 90% of political journalism be, eh?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
    We should do a deal with Iran. They can have some of our rain in exchange for promising not to obliterate Israel.
  • ohnotnow said:

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Next you'll be doing down Senior Sources. Then where would 90% of political journalism be, eh?
    Notice that nobody claims to be an informed source these days.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,900

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Oh I think they are special - just in the way we can't use that word anymore...
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    ohnotnow said:

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Next you'll be doing down Senior Sources. Then where would 90% of political journalism be, eh?
    Or even “sources close to the Government “ meaning someone who walked past Westminster earlier today.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471

    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
    We should do a deal with Iran. They can have some of our rain in exchange for promising not to obliterate Israel.
    They need a lot more rain down south, anyway, just refilling the aquifers and rivers the water companies pissed out.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    Carnyx said:

    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
    We should do a deal with Iran. They can have some of our rain in exchange for promising not to obliterate Israel.
    They need a lot more rain down south, anyway, just refilling the aquifers and rivers the water companies pissed out.
    We only do the deal if the Iranians take over Thames Water.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,985
    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    I saw this and cringed so hard my feet shrank by four sizes.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1989396440939131338

    I’m getting “Regional estate agent celebrating selling a Gloucester docks flat” vibes.

    Very “mid”.
    It is a cringe, isn't it. Very Jenrick. And I'm afraid use of "mid" creates a similar sensation. I'm hoping this is the last time we see it on here. But I don't suppose it will be. I can’t control how people express themselves.
    Terribly sorry for using a phrase that states a level of nothingness about someone who deserves it. Please feel free to list which phrases don’t give you conniptions.
    Yes ok I'll do a list of phrases I like. That's a good challenge.
    Would be helpful for a list of phrases that upset you too if that is ok?
    Ah yes, that'll be more enjoyable. On it.
  • HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Not sure, I think they're very special.
    A serious point, before I descend into Cats Does Countdown and cheap Spanish wine-

    Starmer and Johnson both look set to be broken by their choices of Chief of Staff. Jeeves and Wooster rewritten by Harold Pinter. Possibly also TMay and Nick Timothy.

    At what point does this become a systemic problem, and what's the answer?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,006

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1989384601127551409

    Homan: "I don't think the UK is a friend to this country and friend of the president"

    Do we want to be friends with peados?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    kinabalu said:

    boulay said:

    I saw this and cringed so hard my feet shrank by four sizes.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1989396440939131338

    I’m getting “Regional estate agent celebrating selling a Gloucester docks flat” vibes.

    Very “mid”.
    It is a cringe, isn't it. Very Jenrick. And I'm afraid use of "mid" creates a similar sensation. I'm hoping this is the last time we see it on here. But I don't suppose it will be. I can’t control how people express themselves.
    Terribly sorry for using a phrase that states a level of nothingness about someone who deserves it. Please feel free to list which phrases don’t give you conniptions.
    Yes ok I'll do a list of phrases I like. That's a good challenge.
    Would be helpful for a list of phrases that upset you too if that is ok?
    Ah yes, that'll be more enjoyable. On it.
    Here’s one to start the list. The Channel Isles are shite.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    .
    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907

    Donald Lewinsky.


    Is that what he meant by Big Beautiful Bill ?
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 255
    MattW said:

    It's been miserably wet here, too, and randomly windy.

    I've been at a funeral of a friend's dad I knew since about 1970 (they used to babysit us). Went in a good way - compos mentis until last spring, and went down hill quickly from then. He married in 1962, and they lived in the same house from the mid-1960s to the end.

    A very interesting conversation about offshore wind, with someone who was Project Director for the build of one of the big windfarms off the south coast, and is now high-up for one of the big companies. The biggest problem has been "feast and famine", and he thinks that the gas-based pricing model will go, but not yet.

    I've also just plugged myself into the my school's network. The first e-newsletter that comes through is an invitation to a speech by Lord Frost at the school. I'd be interested to hear what he has to say, and they are able to cope with a large audience - it is in the assembly hall with a capacity of 1000+, though that sounds optimistic to me. That says something about the upsides and downsides of peer networks. I hope that there is a charge to go to endowment funds, or similar.

    60 years in the same house is some effort - I'm around half that time, at least it saves stamp duty!
    A couple of locals (no longer with us) were born in the same house they died in

    That sounds like a fascinating conversation, trying to read between the lines, I wonder if the brakes are being put on some of the bigger projects, due to rising construction costs? I know some of them would like to see an increase to CfD support systems, maybe we will hear more in the budget. Plenty of onshore ones on the table in rural SW Scotland, they don't seem to be letting up. Some of these companies will have their fingers in several pies and there will be the odd speculative application thrown in
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,006
    ...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,006
    I just saw this photo and now you have to see this photo

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5mfim6tdc2k
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538

    Carnyx said:

    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
    We should do a deal with Iran. They can have some of our rain in exchange for promising not to obliterate Israel.
    They need a lot more rain down south, anyway, just refilling the aquifers and rivers the water companies pissed out.
    We only do the deal if the Iranians take over Thames Water.
    Tehran a mile....
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,905
    Barnesian said:

    CJ Warnke
    @cjwarnke
    ·
    1h
    🚨NRCC pollster show MASSIVE warning signs for Republicans🚨

    For the first time in two years, voters whose top priority is inflation and the economy now prefer a generic Democrat for Congress (D+13) OVER a Republican.

    Generic Ballot
    🔵Dem: 50%
    🔴GOP: 44%

    https://x.com/cjwarnke/status/1989345970837168275

    13 or 6?
    Equally bemused. Generic +6% overall, +13% on inflation alone?
    What it says. Whole sample +6%. Subsample where top priority is inflation and economy 13%.
    Approval of Trump has cratered in the last two weeks.



    Midterms are less than a year away (3 Nov 2026).

    "Will Trump be impeached before the 2028 election?" YES has moved from 2.9 to 2.2 in the last few days.
    People blaming him for the shutdown, I presume.
  • Scott_xP said:

    I just saw this photo and now you have to see this photo

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5mfim6tdc2k

    "You must sign in, etc. etc."
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,752
    Scott_xP said:

    I just saw this photo and now you have to see this photo

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5mfim6tdc2k

    Sadly (?) I can’t see it without signing in
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Unlike JD Vance,, whom he has buggered.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    So...he gave you a blow job then?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010

    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    what country is that then
    THE country.

    Rain is hardly worthy of comment in any others...
    Well in Iran, for example, they would be celebrating: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0o

    There is even speculation that Tehran, a city of 10m, may need to be evacuated given the shortage of water.
    We should do a deal with Iran. They can have some of our rain in exchange for promising not to obliterate Israel.
    I think they would tell us to peace off.
  • Scott_xP said:

    I just saw this photo and now you have to see this photo

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5mfim6tdc2k

    Since we don't live on blue sky, and you've already used today's photo allowance, no we don't have to.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538

    Barnesian said:

    CJ Warnke
    @cjwarnke
    ·
    1h
    🚨NRCC pollster show MASSIVE warning signs for Republicans🚨

    For the first time in two years, voters whose top priority is inflation and the economy now prefer a generic Democrat for Congress (D+13) OVER a Republican.

    Generic Ballot
    🔵Dem: 50%
    🔴GOP: 44%

    https://x.com/cjwarnke/status/1989345970837168275

    13 or 6?
    Equally bemused. Generic +6% overall, +13% on inflation alone?
    What it says. Whole sample +6%. Subsample where top priority is inflation and economy 13%.
    Approval of Trump has cratered in the last two weeks.



    Midterms are less than a year away (3 Nov 2026).

    "Will Trump be impeached before the 2028 election?" YES has moved from 2.9 to 2.2 in the last few days.
    People blaming him for the shutdown, I presume.
    Or...just having their eyes opened.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010
    edited November 14

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    So...he gave you a blow job then?
    Dinald Trump just sucks in every way.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,474

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    So...he gave you a blow job then?
    'Some of the documents mentioned Trump, including one from Epstein's brother, Mark, which references photos of Trump "blowing Bubba." "Bubba" is a nickname of former president Bill Clinton, but Mark Epstein told Newsweek the individual was not Clinton. He did not provide any additional details about the identity of “Bubba” or the meaning of the emails. '
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-blowing-bubba-message-epstein-emails-under-scrutiny-11046836
  • Barnesian said:

    CJ Warnke
    @cjwarnke
    ·
    1h
    🚨NRCC pollster show MASSIVE warning signs for Republicans🚨

    For the first time in two years, voters whose top priority is inflation and the economy now prefer a generic Democrat for Congress (D+13) OVER a Republican.

    Generic Ballot
    🔵Dem: 50%
    🔴GOP: 44%

    https://x.com/cjwarnke/status/1989345970837168275

    13 or 6?
    Equally bemused. Generic +6% overall, +13% on inflation alone?
    What it says. Whole sample +6%. Subsample where top priority is inflation and economy 13%.
    Approval of Trump has cratered in the last two weeks.



    Midterms are less than a year away (3 Nov 2026).

    "Will Trump be impeached before the 2028 election?" YES has moved from 2.9 to 2.2 in the last few days.
    People blaming him for the shutdown, I presume.
    Or...just having their eyes opened.
    The voters were already fully aware of how entirely unsuitable he was.

    They just wanted to own the libs more.

    For shame.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 255
    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    Plenty of younger MSP candidates have been heavily involved in party politics, some of them junior office members before standing for election themselves. Being a weel kent face helps

    I don't know what Starmers excuse is for the ongoing budget shambles, it's panto season soon so maybe he's just getting into the spirit
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,502
    Nigelb said:

    .

    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907

    Donald Lewinsky.


    Is that what he meant by Big Beautiful Bill ?
    I think we can be confident that no one foresaw this turn of events.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,723

    Nigelb said:

    .

    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907

    Donald Lewinsky.


    Is that what he meant by Big Beautiful Bill ?
    I think we can be confident that no one foresaw this turn of events.
    Sep 2000. A gentler, more innocent age.


  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    24 hours of rain here in swamps of the Midlands.

    And still going on...
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,498

    Nigelb said:

    .

    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907

    Donald Lewinsky.


    Is that what he meant by Big Beautiful Bill ?
    I think we can be confident that no one foresaw this turn of events.
    Bill Clinton is, what, 80 now?

    He should confirm it happened - whether it did or not - just for the lolz. He surely hasn't got much dignity left to save anyway.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,405
    edited November 14

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    So...he gave you a blow job then?
    'Some of the documents mentioned Trump, including one from Epstein's brother, Mark, which references photos of Trump "blowing Bubba." "Bubba" is a nickname of former president Bill Clinton, but Mark Epstein told Newsweek the individual was not Clinton. He did not provide any additional details about the identity of “Bubba” or the meaning of the emails. '
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-blowing-bubba-message-epstein-emails-under-scrutiny-11046836
    Well if it had been Clinton, it would of course have been consensual and legal (if not something many of Trump's base would like to contemplate).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,006
    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    So...he gave you a blow job then?
    'Some of the documents mentioned Trump, including one from Epstein's brother, Mark, which references photos of Trump "blowing Bubba." "Bubba" is a nickname of former president Bill Clinton, but Mark Epstein told Newsweek the individual was not Clinton. He did not provide any additional details about the identity of “Bubba” or the meaning of the emails. '
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-blowing-bubba-message-epstein-emails-under-scrutiny-11046836
    Well if it had been Clinton, it would of course have been consensual and legal (if not something many of Trump's base would like to contemplate).
    @coachfinstock.bsky.social‬

    What's interesting here is that if Trump had blown Clinton and didn't do any of the diddling stuff, he's in the clear legally but politically it's better to be a pedo than to be gay if you're a Republican
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010

    Nigelb said:

    .

    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's one email which calls for mind bleach.

    Mark Epstein asked his brother Jeffrey Epstein whether Steve Bannon could confirm if Putin has “the photo of Trump blowing Bubba." Jeffrey Epstein: "I thought I had tsuris,” using the Yiddish term for troubles.
    https://x.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1989307675491102907

    Donald Lewinsky.


    Is that what he meant by Big Beautiful Bill ?
    I think we can be confident that no one foresaw this turn of events.
    Bill Clinton is, what, 80 now?

    He should confirm it happened - whether it did or not - just for the lolz. He surely hasn't got much dignity left to save anyway.
    He is two months younger than Donald Trump.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    eek said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    There is 18 months when a Government gets into power during which it can get all the awkward painful stuff out of the way - after that you need things to turn so you have a chance at the next election...

    Starmer and Reeves have wasted that 18 months.
    They wanted power but they had no idea why will be on their gravestones.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    Why bother when you know he's completely unqualified, and likely wouldn't pass a background check ?

    Dan Bongino was named Deputy Director of the FBI WITHOUT passing a background check???
    https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1989425611744612817
  • glwglw Posts: 10,596
    edited November 14

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I heard an economist earlier say that they would be better off raising income tax now, because markets would at least understand the rationale and believe it would be effective. He said that markets generally don't believe that the kind of tinkering to taxation and smaller niche taxes that are raised will work. He more or less implied that come the following budget Labour will be forced to do what they should have done last year, and with two years wasted they haven't a hope of achieving their aims. i.e. They are clueless and useless.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    Damn.
    A new Times story.

    British soldiers who tested the new Ajax armoured fighting vehicle in the summer were so badly affected they can no longer be deployed overseas
    https://x.com/larisamlbrown/status/1989405639433769242
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,010

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Not sure, I think they're very special.
    A serious point, before I descend into Cats Does Countdown and cheap Spanish wine-

    Starmer and Johnson both look set to be broken by their choices of Chief of Staff. Jeeves and Wooster rewritten by Harold Pinter. Possibly also TMay and Nick Timothy.

    At what point does this become a systemic problem, and what's the answer?
    Anyone at a very senior level is to a very large extent reliant on the capability of the people they appoint to delegate doing things to. The issue here is that power in the British government has become so concentrated on the Prime Minister that a single point of failure has been created, and they can only hope not to fail completely if they have a very capable assistant, as Chief of Staff.

    The solution is to somehow achieve the impossible and distribute power more widely - across the Cabinet, to local or regional government, to the people doing the work.
    Or, alternatively, not to appoint failed hacks with delusions of adequacy and falsified CVs as chief of staff.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032

    24 hours of rain here in swamps of the Midlands.

    And still going on...

    Do you mean the Mudlands?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994
    Has Trump responded at all to this email?
  • eek said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    There is 18 months when a Government gets into power during which it can get all the awkward painful stuff out of the way - after that you need things to turn so you have a chance at the next election...

    Starmer and Reeves have wasted that 18 months.
    They wanted power but they had no idea why will be on their gravestones.

    "Told you I was ill!"
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,595

    24 hours of rain here in swamps of the Midlands.

    And still going on...

    I had to drive up from London to Sheffield today with the family. Can't say it was the most enjoyable drive.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    Nigelb said:

    Why bother when you know he's completely unqualified, and likely wouldn't pass a background check ?

    Dan Bongino was named Deputy Director of the FBI WITHOUT passing a background check???
    https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1989425611744612817

    The American constitution and the shining city on a hill where a people governed themselves under the rule of law turned out to be a children's fairy story.

    It never existed.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    Now that Reeves has excluded Income Tax from the list of taxes she won’t raise, she is in danger of spooking the markets because there are no taxes left to raise to keep the country solvent.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    edited November 14

    eek said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    There is 18 months when a Government gets into power during which it can get all the awkward painful stuff out of the way - after that you need things to turn so you have a chance at the next election...

    Starmer and Reeves have wasted that 18 months.
    They wanted power but they had no idea why will be on their gravestones.

    "Told you I was ill!"
    At least I have reduced the waiting list!
  • ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Not sure, I think they're very special.
    A serious point, before I descend into Cats Does Countdown and cheap Spanish wine-

    Starmer and Johnson both look set to be broken by their choices of Chief of Staff. Jeeves and Wooster rewritten by Harold Pinter. Possibly also TMay and Nick Timothy.

    At what point does this become a systemic problem, and what's the answer?
    Anyone at a very senior level is to a very large extent reliant on the capability of the people they appoint to delegate doing things to. The issue here is that power in the British government has become so concentrated on the Prime Minister that a single point of failure has been created, and they can only hope not to fail completely if they have a very capable assistant, as Chief of Staff.

    The solution is to somehow achieve the impossible and distribute power more widely - across the Cabinet, to local or regional government, to the people doing the work.
    Or, alternatively, not to appoint failed hacks with delusions of adequacy and falsified CVs as chief of staff.
    But also... Is CoS to the PM a role which has so much practical power and so little scrutiny that anyone who wants it should not only be disqualified, but locked up in advance for public safety?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,032
    Ratters said:

    24 hours of rain here in swamps of the Midlands.

    And still going on...

    I had to drive up from London to Sheffield today with the family. Can't say it was the most enjoyable drive.
    Glad you got home safely.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,595
    edited November 14

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    I'm increasingly of the view that Starmer/Reeves should be binned and Streeting given 3 years to give it his best shot.

    Starmerism is somehow trying to placate everyone and appealing to no one.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    Ratters said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    I'm increasingly of the view that Starmer/Reeves should be binned and Streeting given 3 years to give it his best shot.

    Starmerism is somehow trying to placate everyone and appealing to no one.
    I'm generally against dumping PMs like this and even more so when they have such a massive mandate but in this case...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293

    Has Trump responded at all to this email?

    Yes, he's ordered an investigation of Democrats.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    If Trump wants to know what happened between Epstein and Reid Hoffman maybe he could...erm... release the files?

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,412

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    Maybe the best way to bring this all to a head would be for her to resign before the budget and put the boot into Starmer.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293

    Nigelb said:

    Why bother when you know he's completely unqualified, and likely wouldn't pass a background check ?

    Dan Bongino was named Deputy Director of the FBI WITHOUT passing a background check???
    https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1989425611744612817

    The American constitution and the shining city on a hill where a people governed themselves under the rule of law turned out to be a children's fairy story.

    It never existed.
    That's hardly true.
    The constitution has obvious strengths, and done weaknesses, but it's only recently that the GOP have started to demolish it wholesale.

    It would for instance have been unthinkable for prior presidents to direct his AG to investigate political opponents on his behalf.
    When Nixon tried something similar, he was almost immediately threatened with impeachment, and forced to resign.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,270

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    Maybe the best way to bring this all to a head would be for her to resign before the budget and put the boot into Starmer.
    The way things are going I half expect her to resign *during* it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,010
    edited November 14

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    Maybe the best way to bring this all to a head would be for her to resign before the budget and put the boot into Starmer.
    The way things are going I half expect her to resign *during* it.
    Then unresign by the end of the speech.

    See you, your a f##king ombishambles, from bean to cup, you fuck up.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,595

    Ratters said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    I'm increasingly of the view that Starmer/Reeves should be binned and Streeting given 3 years to give it his best shot.

    Starmerism is somehow trying to placate everyone and appealing to no one.
    I'm generally against dumping PMs like this and even more so when they have such a massive mandate but in this case...
    The trouble is he has a massive mandate to do nothing. To not be the Tories.

    This budget was a chance to put the fiscal position on a firm footing by making difficult decisions, so perhaps they could focus on other issues.

    Instead it seems they are skirting broad based tax increases and conceding ground on popular spending increases.

    Which just means more fiscal black holes will follow them around at the budget next year too.

    The big risk is Ed Miliband creates another upset and we have a more actively damaging, rather than merely hopeless, government.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293

    Nigelb said:

    Why bother when you know he's completely unqualified, and likely wouldn't pass a background check ?

    Dan Bongino was named Deputy Director of the FBI WITHOUT passing a background check???
    https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1989425611744612817

    The American constitution and the shining city on a hill where a people governed themselves under the rule of law turned out to be a children's fairy story.

    It never existed.
    The "shining city on a hill" was always hyperbole, of course, somewhat akin to the "sceptred isle" bit about Britain.

    But this is not normal, at all.

    I wish I could impress on younger generations right now just how unprecedented this is.

    This level of corruption is not normal - it’s like nothing that has happened in American history, and it is stealing from your future.

    No one should grow up thinking this is normal.

    https://x.com/clearing_fog/status/1989188626987774168

    Though of course, for those who came uf political age in the last decade, it almost IS normal.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,088

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    SKS and Austerity Reeves deserve each other.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,545
    Christ this is all so depressing.
  • Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Why bother when you know he's completely unqualified, and likely wouldn't pass a background check ?

    Dan Bongino was named Deputy Director of the FBI WITHOUT passing a background check???
    https://x.com/TVietor08/status/1989425611744612817

    The American constitution and the shining city on a hill where a people governed themselves under the rule of law turned out to be a children's fairy story.

    It never existed.
    The "shining city on a hill" was always hyperbole, of course, somewhat akin to the "sceptred isle" bit about Britain.

    But this is not normal, at all.

    I wish I could impress on younger generations right now just how unprecedented this is.

    This level of corruption is not normal - it’s like nothing that has happened in American history, and it is stealing from your future.

    No one should grow up thinking this is normal.

    https://x.com/clearing_fog/status/1989188626987774168

    Though of course, for those who came uf political age in the last decade, it almost IS normal.
    Lord North has a lot to answer for...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    Maybe the best way to bring this all to a head would be for her to resign before the budget and put the boot into Starmer.
    The way things are going I half expect her to resign *during* it.
    Then unresign by the end of the speech.

    See you, your a f##king ombishambles, from bean to cup, you fuck up.
    But with a LOT of tears in the process.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    Does today's clownshow mean that Torsten Bell will not be the next CoE?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,088

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    I have some sympathy for Reeves. It increasingly looks like Starmer is an impossible Prime Minister to work for and many of the ways she looks like an idiot seem to be his fault.
    Maybe the best way to bring this all to a head would be for her to resign before the budget and put the boot into Starmer.
    The way things are going I half expect her to resign *during* it.
    No chance before, during or after for austerity Reeves or SKS

    They literally still believe they are doing a good job.

    Zero self awareness to match zero aptitude for their roles
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    Now that Reeves has excluded Income Tax from the list of taxes she won’t raise, she is in danger of spooking the markets because there are no taxes left to raise to keep the country solvent.
    This.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 21,186

    Ratters said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    I'm increasingly of the view that Starmer/Reeves should be binned and Streeting given 3 years to give it his best shot.

    Starmerism is somehow trying to placate everyone and appealing to no one.
    I'm generally against dumping PMs like this and even more so when they have such a massive mandate but in this case...
    Define massive mandate! Majority yes but based on 33% in the votes cast.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,126
    edited November 14
    I cannot believe just how incapable this Govt is of actual running a Govt. Things got tough for Brown back in the day, but this last week makes the "election that never was" look completely inconsequential now. And it just comes on top of one thing after another thing after another thing, And guess what? All these things just look the same. And they rinse and repeat.

    Who is actually running this country? The Labour back bench MP's who are going to be massacred come what may next time? The press? The hedge funds? Donald Trump? I certainly do not have a clue...but I know one thing, Starmer couldn't run a piss up in brewery.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    Nigelb said:

    Damn.
    A new Times story.

    British soldiers who tested the new Ajax armoured fighting vehicle in the summer were so badly affected they can no longer be deployed overseas
    https://x.com/larisamlbrown/status/1989405639433769242

    So we'll be ordering a thousand then?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878

    Ratters said:

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    I'm increasingly of the view that Starmer/Reeves should be binned and Streeting given 3 years to give it his best shot.

    Starmerism is somehow trying to placate everyone and appealing to no one.
    I'm generally against dumping PMs like this and even more so when they have such a massive mandate but in this case...
    Define massive mandate! Majority yes but based on 33% in the votes cast.
    Well, more people should be arsed and vote then.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,595

    Does today's clownshow mean that Torsten Bell will not be the next CoE?

    Seems unlikely he was the ultimate decision maker. Surely that was Reeves/Starmer combo.

    Perhaps the budget he would have come up with would have been more like what was trailed 2 weeks ago and less like what we're going to get.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,704
    For me the pivot point was the moment the government failed to carry Parliament on benefit reform.

    The market, and indeed all sentient observers, concluded that Starmer and Reeves weren’t up to it.

    This week’s “turnaround” is not quite Trussian, but it’s approaching it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    Now that Reeves has excluded Income Tax from the list of taxes she won’t raise, she is in danger of spooking the markets because there are no taxes left to raise to keep the country solvent.
    This.
    I can't remember a chancellor more out of ideas and depth to be honest. Lamont was told to do the ERM and he didn't want to and it all went tits up but at least it was an idea and they carried it through.

    Why is Reeves in office? What does she want to do with the power?

    I've no idea and I suspect she also has no idea.

    Tomorrow she will backtrack on ending the two child benefit cap based on how she has done so far this autumn.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,622
    Nigelb said:

    "We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties,” according to DOJ & FBI’s July letter.

    Now AG Bondi has announced she has tapped Jay Clayton, the current U.S. attorney for SDNY, to lead the Trump-ordered investigation of Jeffrey Epstein’s involvement with high-profile Democrats & JP Morgan Chase.

    https://x.com/KFaulders/status/1989415603556188210

    I thought he'd said it was all boring?
  • Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    Now that Reeves has excluded Income Tax from the list of taxes she won’t raise, she is in danger of spooking the markets because there are no taxes left to raise to keep the country solvent.
    This.
    I can't remember a chancellor more out of ideas and depth to be honest. Lamont was told to do the ERM and he didn't want to and it all went tits up but at least it was an idea and they carried it through.

    Why is Reeves in office? What does she want to do with the power?

    I've no idea and I suspect she also has no idea.

    Tomorrow she will backtrack on ending the two child benefit cap based on how she has done so far this autumn.
    Reeves made it clear in her first Budget.

    She wanted to be first female Chancellor.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878

    For me the pivot point was the moment the government failed to carry Parliament on benefit reform.

    The market, and indeed all sentient observers, concluded that Starmer and Reeves weren’t up to it.

    This week’s “turnaround” is not quite Trussian, but it’s approaching it.

    You may be right but equally historians may surmise that they lost the plot when she decided to axe winter fuel allowance.

    Yet again I ask - what is the point of any of it?

    This is Sunak 2.0
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,088

    Clown show latest:



    Minsiter: "I'm between fury and despair now. At least they were going to do a very hard, very bad thing that probably was the right thing to do. It's just so weak. This only ends one way' "

    Minister: "[Starmer] going to have to be forced out - and that's going to be bloody and it's going to be messy.' "


    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1989433582138359866

    It’s fascinating how politics shifts. Before this week I’d have said Starmer was more likely than not to go before the end of 2027/28, but he had the benefit of time to try and strengthen his position.

    It now looks increasingly unlikely he’ll be in post in 12 months time.

    In some ways it’s because his fortunes are tied to Reeves, and if we weren’t already aware of this she has again demonstrated just how badly she is performing as a steward of our economy and how increasingly out of her depth she is appearing. Can they really afford to keep her in post much longer? The chances of a very negative bond market reaction in the coming months feel significantly higher to me this evening.
    Now that Reeves has excluded Income Tax from the list of taxes she won’t raise, she is in danger of spooking the markets because there are no taxes left to raise to keep the country solvent.
    This.
    I can't remember a chancellor more out of ideas and depth to be honest. Lamont was told to do the ERM and he didn't want to and it all went tits up but at least it was an idea and they carried it through.

    Why is Reeves in office? What does she want to do with the power?

    I've no idea and I suspect she also has no idea.

    Tomorrow she will backtrack on ending the two child benefit cap based on how she has done so far this autumn.
    Tomorrow it's knees bent, arms stretch, rah rah rah.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,772
    Budget: looks like there will be a revaluation of the 2.4 million properties in Council Bands F, G and H to determine around 300,000 properties where an additional tax will be levied to be paid direct to Central government. In other words the start of a new annual tax on property values.

    Properties in bands F G and H will be covered as some London properties in band F will now be worth more than some band H properties in say Lincolnshire.

    To be in place for 2028. To raise £600m so average £2,000 per affected property but bands within the levy are likely so the most expensive properties will be charged much more than those at the margin.

    Around 700,000 properties worth £1m or more so effective value threshold likely to be more than £1m but probably less than £1.5m.

    See Telegraph for more details, I have seen Sky Newspapers webpage.

  • Budget: looks like there will be a revaluation of the 2.4 million properties in Council Bands F, G and H to determine around 300,000 properties where an additional tax will be levied to be paid direct to Central government. In other words the start of a new annual tax on property values.

    Properties in bands F G and H will be covered as some London properties in band F will now be worth more than some band H properties in say Lincolnshire.

    To be in place for 2028. To raise £600m so average £2,000 per affected property but bands within the levy are likely so the most expensive properties will be charged much more than those at the margin.

    Around 700,000 properties worth £1m or more so effective value threshold likely to be more than £1m but probably less than £1.5m.

    See Telegraph for more details, I have seen Sky Newspapers webpage.

    Checks who still says they will vote Labour....better off people in the South.....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,622

    HYUFD said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
    I've seen a few clips now from QT. Have to say Ken C may be getting on a bit but he still speaks great sense and with authority.

    Where are today's politicians with such talent and ability for the frontline?

    Certainly not in today's Treasury.
    I thought the same too, KC spoke sense on migration. He's 85 now, a good few Tory politicians would do well to heed his words.

    The way the Treasury have handled this upcoming budget is astonishing, I put some of it down to a poor standard of advisors - too many fresh out of uni with PPE degrees and no experience outside politics under their belt

    The dearth of talent is deep and affects all political offices from local government upwards. The ability of a lot of our local councillors is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago, that is despite less people putting themselves forward (I'm aware I sound very old saying this!)
    Haven't special advisers normally been relatively recently outside of uni? Say what you like about Starmer and Reeves they both had experience outside politics, Reeves isn't known as 'Rachel from Complaints' for nothing
    They should just be called advisers. Recent history has shown there is nothing special about them.
    Not sure, I think they're very special.
    A serious point, before I descend into Cats Does Countdown and cheap Spanish wine-

    Starmer and Johnson both look set to be broken by their choices of Chief of Staff. Jeeves and Wooster rewritten by Harold Pinter. Possibly also TMay and Nick Timothy.

    At what point does this become a systemic problem, and what's the answer?
    Anyone at a very senior level is to a very large extent reliant on the capability of the people they appoint to delegate doing things to. The issue here is that power in the British government has become so concentrated on the Prime Minister that a single point of failure has been created, and they can only hope not to fail completely if they have a very capable assistant, as Chief of Staff.

    The solution is to somehow achieve the impossible and distribute power more widely - across the Cabinet, to local or regional government, to the people doing the work.
    Parties always include fluff about empowering communities in their manifestoes, but funnily enough not much tends to happen other than making local authorities compete for funding pots controlled by Whitehall. This government has done slightly more than that perhaps with it's mayoralty plans, but they are not going to simplify or empower areas as much as claimed, and seems mostly about making it easier for, again, Whitehall to deal with fewer people.
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