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Breaking: Your Party – politicalbetting.com

The latest development in the Your Party money row: Sultana has offered to transfer £600k (of the £800-850k+? from initial donations + £500k from her launch) in tranches, the first being £200k on 12 Nov, to help with conferenceBut YP sources say this is impossible to accept

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,742
    First?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,395
    edited November 14
    Piss up in a brewery time.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,010
    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,003
    Roger said:

    Piss up in a brewery time.

    Well none of them drink alcohol..
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,545
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Welp, if we're prosecuting on laws like that then a trip to the National Rail Museum is out of the question for me.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    There were a lot of irate posters on X going on about this, so someone will have identified the berk and complained to the plod.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,010
    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    "Are we the baddies?"
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,941
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Admiral Bling?

    Perhaps he did it pour encourager les autres.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994
    Let's build a world based on cooperation, community and solidarity for all - except for those bastards who almost completely agree with us.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,723
    LostPassword said:

    Let's build a world based on cooperation, community and solidarity for all - except for those bastards who almost completely agree with us.

    Your Partly?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,742
    edited November 14
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    The Polanski Greens have momentum (no pun) so they really should strike out as the standard bearer of the hard left and have little to do with these losers. If they can get Sultana to switch to them that would be a significant act. She’s a grade A moron but may be a team player in the greens
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    "Are we the baddies?"
    Touché
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,174
    edited November 14
    Adnan Hussain's letter of 'resignation' in the header is quite interesting, as there's explicit reference to the derogatory way Muslim men have been spoken of and treated by others in YP. I really think the party is a non-starter, as there's such a huge gulf between the social attitudes of some in the 'Independent Alliance' and the woke, right-on lefties who have 'joined' (some of whom have already transferred to the Greens).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn secretly wished he'd thrown his lot in with Polanski. He still could, of course.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,010
    I understand RedBird is abandoning its attempt to take control of the Telegraph. It will sell the business that it already owns but is unable to control because the government and regulators have not yet approved its ownership. This is a massive media story. It means either Paul Marshall - owner of the Spectator - or the Daily Mail
    will end up in control of one of the UK’s best known newspaper groups.

    It has been extraordinary to watch the Telegraph’s editorial team editorial team campaign against RedBird’s ownership, and its plans to expand the business internationally.

    There is a risk to the government in RedBird pulling out, in that either Mail/Rothermere ownership or Marshall ownership would entrench the Telegraph’s opposition to Labour and support for Reform and the Tories.

    https://x.com/Peston/status/1989310642638000209?s=20
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,380
    These guys are making Change UK look like laser-focused models of professionalism.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,720
    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    The Jonathan Carley you are thinking of is a different person with the same name.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz
    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,848
    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,536
    edited November 14
    Northern_Al said:

    Adnan Hussain's letter of 'resignation' in the header is quite interesting, as there's explicit reference to the derogatory way Muslim men have been spoken of and treated by others in YP. I really think the party is a non-starter, as there's such a huge gulf between the social attitudes of some in the 'Independent Alliance' and the woke, right-on lefties who have 'joined' (some of whom have already transferred to the Greens).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn secretly wished he'd thrown his lot in with Polanski. He still could, of course.

    Isn't Corbyn part of the sexist antisemitic faction?

    Anyway, if you read Hussain's letter, he hasn't resigned from either Your Party or the Independent Alliance, just the YP steering group.

    It of course wouldn't be a far-left party without fractional infighting
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    Adnan Hussain: #NotMyParty...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 83,293
    I don't think this comparison is meant in a good way.
    In any event, Vance is not fit to chew Gerald Ford's gum.

    Lawrence: The Vice President of the United States [@JDVance] has now responded to what I said about him at this hour, on this program last night. The breaking news of this hour, is that JD Vance took to Twitter this evening, to respond to an 18 minute video of my comments last night on this program, that were posted on Twitter by a viewer...His post on social media in response to that video says [he's going on an interview with @seanhannity]...JD Vance was absolutely silent in that interview about Jeffrey #Epstein's emails...JD Vance never said the word Epstein...JD Vance stayed absolutely silent about the worst challenge his boss is facing tonight, in other words, JD Vance is STILL Gerald Ford tonight."
    https://x.com/Emolclause/status/1989310621771309137
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,806
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    They're more of a bowel movement than a political movement.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,996
    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    “2
    (1)It shall not be lawful for any person not serving in Her Majesty’s Military Forces to wear without Her Majesty’s permission the uniform of any of those forces, or any dress having the appearance or bearing any of the regimental or other distinctive marks of any such uniform: Provided that this enactment shall not prevent . . . . . . F1 any persons from wearing any uniform or dress in the course of a stage play performed in a place duly licensed or authorised for the public performance of stage plays, or in the course of a music hall or circus performance, or in the course of any bona fide military representation.”

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/57-58/45/section/2
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,801
    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    It’s only if you are trying to pass yourself off as military, they aren’t worried about actors or people at fancy dress parties or Prince Harry would have been locked up for impersonating and Afrika Corps man.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,720
    JohnLilburne said:

    Northern_Al said:

    Adnan Hussain's letter of 'resignation' in the header is quite interesting, as there's explicit reference to the derogatory way Muslim men have been spoken of and treated by others in YP. I really think the party is a non-starter, as there's such a huge gulf between the social attitudes of some in the 'Independent Alliance' and the woke, right-on lefties who have 'joined' (some of whom have already transferred to the Greens).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn secretly wished he'd thrown his lot in with Polanski. He still could, of course.

    Isn't Corbyn part of the sexist antisemitic faction?

    Anyway, if you read Hussain's letter, he hasn't resigned from either Your Party or the Independent Alliance, just the YP steering group.

    It of course wouldn't be a far-left party without fractional infighting
    Hmm. The use of "fractional" for "factional" would work in Continental Europe, which is comfortable with words like "fraktion". But given that "fracking" involves the ground beneath your feet splitting under pressure, I can't help thinking it's the better word B)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    Eabhal said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Welp, if we're prosecuting on laws like that then a trip to the National Rail Museum is out of the question for me.
    What on earth are you doing, wearing your toy Royal Engineers, Railway Operating Division, uniform?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,720
    Eabhal said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Welp, if we're prosecuting on laws like that then a trip to the National Rail Museum is out of the question for me.
    Does this apply to Star Trek uniforms? Asking for a, er, "friend". :)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,010
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    Predictable....
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,996
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    It’s only if you are trying to pass yourself off as military, they aren’t worried about actors or people at fancy dress parties or Prince Harry would have been locked up for impersonating and Afrika Corps man.
    The Act only applies to wearing the uniform of British forces and there’s a specific exemption for dramatic performances and enactments, as I detail above
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    Not convinced Your Party has ever been much of a force.

    The thread header I want to see is Breaking: Reform
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    edited November 14
    viewcode said:

    Eabhal said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Welp, if we're prosecuting on laws like that then a trip to the National Rail Museum is out of the question for me.
    Does this apply to Star Trek uniforms? Asking for a, er, "friend". :)
    Nah, only His Maj's armed forces.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,742
    viewcode said:

    Eabhal said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Welp, if we're prosecuting on laws like that then a trip to the National Rail Museum is out of the question for me.
    Does this apply to Star Trek uniforms? Asking for a, er, "friend". :)
    "I would sleep in my own bed, except it's being used to bring shame to my family. And the memory of Gene Roddenberry".
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,742
    MarqueeMark said:

    Not convinced Your Party has ever been much of a force.

    The thread header I want to see is Breaking: Reform

    I suspect we’ll get that one some point, more likely after the next election if Reform end up in government.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    It’s only if you are trying to pass yourself off as military, they aren’t worried about actors or people at fancy dress parties or Prince Harry would have been locked up for impersonating and Afrika Corps man.
    Both Prince Harry and Ed Balls would have been an interesting fancy dress night in the cells...
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,801
    MarqueeMark said:

    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    It’s only if you are trying to pass yourself off as military, they aren’t worried about actors or people at fancy dress parties or Prince Harry would have been locked up for impersonating and Afrika Corps man.
    Both Prince Harry and Ed Balls would have been an interesting fancy dress night in the cells...
    Or Max Mosley’s favourite dungeon.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,801
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
    He also claimed to have gone to Harvard Business school but they have no records, also claimed he won a prestigious rowing race whilst there when he wouldn’t have even been in the US allegedly so an interesting character.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,374
    edited November 14
    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,065
    boulay said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
    He also claimed to have gone to Harvard Business school but they have no records, also claimed he won a prestigious rowing race whilst there when he wouldn’t have even been in the US allegedly so an interesting character.
    Odd the lack of records 'kept' by prestigious American Uni's .
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,374
    edited November 14
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Not convinced Your Party has ever been much of a force.

    The thread header I want to see is Breaking: Reform

    I suspect we’ll get that one some point, more likely after the next election if Reform end up in government.
    Or breaking: neck of latest ex-Reform dissident to have unfortunate window fall following ill-fated invasion of Ireland?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,257
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Not convinced Your Party has ever been much of a force.

    The thread header I want to see is Breaking: Reform

    I suspect we’ll get that one some point, more likely after the next election if Reform end up in government.
    If Reform win the election it will be Breaking: Britain.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
  • glwglw Posts: 10,596
    I see that Trump now wants the DOJ to investigate Democrats named in the fake/hoax/non-existant Epstein files, but presumably ignore the thousand or so mentions of his own name.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,065
    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    I hope you returned the migrants!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    edited November 14
    boulay said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
    He also claimed to have gone to Harvard Business school but they have no records, also claimed he won a prestigious rowing race whilst there when he wouldn’t have even been in the US allegedly so an interesting character.
    The thing that I noticed most was that this is so common that there is actually a group dedicated to the hunting and [edit!} metaphorical suppression of such foilk,. who are known as Walts, and there is a whole section on ARRSE in amongst the sections dedicated to such things as green Mars Bars and the iniquities of contracting out recruitment to the corporate sector.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,374
    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The live feed from my weather station is actually showing a higher heat index than the ambient temperature. 14.6C, “feels like” 14.7C.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,878
    CJ Warnke
    @cjwarnke
    ·
    1h
    🚨NRCC pollster show MASSIVE warning signs for Republicans🚨

    For the first time in two years, voters whose top priority is inflation and the economy now prefer a generic Democrat for Congress (D+13) OVER a Republican.

    Generic Ballot
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    🔴GOP: 44%

    https://x.com/cjwarnke/status/1989345970837168275
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    OldKingCole said:

    boulay said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
    He also claimed to have gone to Harvard Business school but they have no records, also claimed he won a prestigious rowing race whilst there when he wouldn’t have even been in the US allegedly so an interesting character.
    Odd the lack of records 'kept' by prestigious American Uni's .
    Data confidentiality maybe.

    But for someone of the gent's age you would expect him to be in graduation lists in the newspapers, at least in the UK.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    The director of the FBI wasn't sure his deputy could pass a polygraph...

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5m53c2qgs2n
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    DougSeal said:

    Taz said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    What about actors ?
    “2
    (1)It shall not be lawful for any person not serving in Her Majesty’s Military Forces to wear without Her Majesty’s permission the uniform of any of those forces, or any dress having the appearance or bearing any of the regimental or other distinctive marks of any such uniform: Provided that this enactment shall not prevent . . . . . . F1 any persons from wearing any uniform or dress in the course of a stage play performed in a place duly licensed or authorised for the public performance of stage plays, or in the course of a music hall or circus performance, or in the course of any bona fide military representation.”

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/57-58/45/section/2
    I ask because I’m sure I saw something, although I cannot find a reference, that actor Tony Steedman had been done for impersonating a police officer.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Scott_xP said:

    The director of the FBI wasn't sure his deputy could pass a polygraph...

    https://bsky.app/profile/coachfinstock.bsky.social/post/3m5m53c2qgs2n

    They’re not effective anyway. As any devotee of the Jeremy Kyle ‘laugh at the underclass’ talk show would prove.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 21,186
    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The live feed from my weather station is actually showing a higher heat index than the ambient temperature. 14.6C, “feels like” 14.7C.
    Just been out to the garage, in my part of the north east it’s freezing. Not literally but metaphorically.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,723
    edited November 14
    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    If it cheers you up I'm in the Med and it's dark at 5:30 here too. 20° though.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,065
    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    November innit!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,471
    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    Taz said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The live feed from my weather station is actually showing a higher heat index than the ambient temperature. 14.6C, “feels like” 14.7C.
    Just been out to the garage, in my part of the north east it’s freezing. Not literally but metaphorically.
    Next week it will be literally
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,326
    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Oh, to be in England .....
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    Not convinced Your Party has ever been much of a force.

    The thread header I want to see is Breaking: Reform

    I suspect we’ll get that one some point, more likely after the next election if Reform end up in government.
    If Reform win the election it will be Breaking: Britain.
    Who knows what Britain will be like. We have a party miles ahead in the polls with no real policies and no shadows of any ministerial post. They are, with every passing day, becoming a retirement home for failed Tories.

    What do they stand for, apart from being NOTA. I’m trying to work it out and, unlike the centrist dad element here, I’m not reflexively hostile to them. At least with the Greens you know what they stand for.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,003
    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    I've already got my candles lit

    Latest rumour is that power will be out until at least 11pm, so I'll be making salad by candlelight
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    @scottygb

    FYI: The BBC has released all of the charities #TheCelebrityTraitors were competing for, with links so that you can donate.

    https://x.com/scottygb/status/1989366153446367280?s=20
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Scott_xP said:

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
    This is the content I’m here for. I ruddy love that bridge. Crossed it loads of times. My mate, who’s a massive fan of Get Carter, came up from the Midlands for a weekend and his highlight was walking over that bridge (and up the stairs next to House of Tides).

    When I first worked at Lucas in Brum at Gt King Street (not sure if @Mexicanpete will remember it, he’s same pedigree as me) there was a lathe from 1913.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994
    Sitting here in Ireland I do find complaints about the humidity and rain from those back in England grimly amusing. You don't know you're born.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,326
    Does the header mean that one person has control over the new party's funds? Are the funds not in a business account?
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The live feed from my weather station is actually showing a higher heat index than the ambient temperature. 14.6C, “feels like” 14.7C.
    Just been out to the garage, in my part of the north east it’s freezing. Not literally but metaphorically.
    Next week it will be literally
    You’re not wrong. Just looked at the forecast.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,723
    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
    This is the content I’m here for. I ruddy love that bridge. Crossed it loads of times. My mate, who’s a massive fan of Get Carter, came up from the Midlands for a weekend and his highlight was walking over that bridge (and up the stairs next to House of Tides).

    When I first worked at Lucas in Brum at Gt King Street (not sure if @Mexicanpete will remember it, he’s same pedigree as me) there was a lathe from 1913.
    I did my school work experience with Lucas Aerospace in Spring Road. Fun times.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Scott_xP said:

    @scottygb

    FYI: The BBC has released all of the charities #TheCelebrityTraitors were competing for, with links so that you can donate.

    https://x.com/scottygb/status/1989366153446367280?s=20

    My sister has had Lurchers for years. She’d love the Lurcher charity.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,801
    Carnyx said:

    boulay said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    He was *educating* people at Cheltenham College apparently. I say apparently advisedly. But it may be true. Ditto Oxford. But which college?
    He also claimed to have gone to Harvard Business school but they have no records, also claimed he won a prestigious rowing race whilst there when he wouldn’t have even been in the US allegedly so an interesting character.
    The thing that I noticed most was that this is so common that there is actually a group dedicated to the hunting and [edit!} metaphorical suppression of such foilk,. who are known as Walts, and there is a whole section on ARRSE in amongst the sections dedicated to such things as green Mars Bars and the iniquities of contracting out recruitment to the corporate sector.
    If you have Facebook read the Walter Mitty hunters page - there are some weird people - one guy pretending he is ex army intelligence and providing his services to films to guide on weapons and tactics etc and falling out with real soldiers on set “I can’t tell you what I did, official secrets” etc - even turned up at an HAC dinner in full Army Intelligence get up. They compile dossiers on these people and reach out to all their contacts in the SAS etc and get info and get lists checked.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
    This is the content I’m here for. I ruddy love that bridge. Crossed it loads of times. My mate, who’s a massive fan of Get Carter, came up from the Midlands for a weekend and his highlight was walking over that bridge (and up the stairs next to House of Tides).

    When I first worked at Lucas in Brum at Gt King Street (not sure if @Mexicanpete will remember it, he’s same pedigree as me) there was a lathe from 1913.
    I did my school work experience with Lucas Aerospace in Spring Road. Fun times.
    Fantastic. I just love our long gone manufacturing heritage. I worked for a few years at Clifford’s in Spring Road and I also worked at Lucas BW4.

    They even let me have some fish from the ornamental pond at the front for my pond at home. My sister doesn’t live too far from York Road.

    I know we progress but I do miss the old industrial heart of Brum.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,827
    Reports are that the black hole is £10bn less than forecast so no need to raise income tax rates.

    But how will today's interest rate rise affect the numbers? Surely it will widen the black hole again.

    And we are still 12 days from Budget so can the numbers still move - ie has OBR done final numbers or is there a further final revision still to come?

    If there is a further revision, surely there could be trouble.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    MikeL said:

    Reports are that the black hole is £10bn less than forecast so no need to raise income tax rates.

    But how will today's interest rate rise affect the numbers? Surely it will widen the black hole again.

    And we are still 12 days from Budget so can the numbers still move - ie has OBR done final numbers or is there a further final revision still to come?

    If there is a further revision, surely there could be trouble.

    https://youtu.be/u5u1AbYIdjA?si=NFduhi30II2BLhX8
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    MikeL said:

    Reports are that the black hole is £10bn less than forecast so no need to raise income tax rates.

    But how will today's interest rate rise affect the numbers? Surely it will widen the black hole again.

    And we are still 12 days from Budget so can the numbers still move - ie has OBR done final numbers or is there a further final revision still to come?

    If there is a further revision, surely there could be trouble.

    So more Sagittarius A than TON618
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,737
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    Thank heavens for that detail. For a moment I thought Welsh, retired teacher...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,003
    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
    This is the content I’m here for. I ruddy love that bridge. Crossed it loads of times. My mate, who’s a massive fan of Get Carter, came up from the Midlands for a weekend and his highlight was walking over that bridge (and up the stairs next to House of Tides).

    When I first worked at Lucas in Brum at Gt King Street (not sure if @Mexicanpete will remember it, he’s same pedigree as me) there was a lathe from 1913.
    I did my school work experience with Lucas Aerospace in Spring Road. Fun times.
    Fantastic. I just love our long gone manufacturing heritage. I worked for a few years at Clifford’s in Spring Road and I also worked at Lucas BW4.

    They even let me have some fish from the ornamental pond at the front for my pond at home. My sister doesn’t live too far from York Road.

    I know we progress but I do miss the old industrial heart of Brum.
    I walked the Coventry canal a few years ago, past a GIANT factory building, which I now know was built as an arms factory, complete with giant lathes buried in the floor, and rail tracks running through the building for deliveries (the tracks still exist in places)

    All of the canal bridges have holes in the parapets that have been patched. They were to allow the fire brigade to drop hoses into the water during the blitz.

    Diving through Brum last weekend i noticed the same feature on one of their canal bridges
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,737
    MikeL said:

    Reports are that the black hole is £10bn less than forecast so no need to raise income tax rates.

    But how will today's interest rate rise affect the numbers? Surely it will widen the black hole again.

    And we are still 12 days from Budget so can the numbers still move - ie has OBR done final numbers or is there a further final revision still to come?

    If there is a further revision, surely there could be trouble.

    All economic statistics are rubbish. It is absurd that the budget and future direction of this great nation are held hostage to forecasters who may as well be plucking numbers from thin air, so wildly do their guesses fluctuate.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,806
    OldKingCole said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    I hope you returned the migrants!
    Put them up in a bug hotel.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    MikeL said:

    Reports are that the black hole is £10bn less than forecast so no need to raise income tax rates.

    But how will today's interest rate rise affect the numbers? Surely it will widen the black hole again.

    And we are still 12 days from Budget so can the numbers still move - ie has OBR done final numbers or is there a further final revision still to come?

    If there is a further revision, surely there could be trouble.

    All economic statistics are rubbish. It is absurd that the budget and future direction of this great nation are held hostage to forecasters who may as well be plucking numbers from thin air, so wildly do their guesses fluctuate.
    If Reeves had budgeted with a sensible safety margin then the entirely predictable fluctuations of a few £10bn here and there wouldn't affect her budget.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,412
    Is it mandatory to have a silly voice if you are a Labour politician called Keir?

    https://x.com/UKLabour/status/1989320485268607107
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,065
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    I am shocked to learn he was also educated at the University of Oxford, what an utter bounder.
    Thank heavens for that detail. For a moment I thought Welsh, retired teacher...
    He wasn't coughing, was he?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,737
    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The moths were probably lured out by all the candles lit on yesterday's threads marking scale dog's birthday.
  • franklynfranklyn Posts: 331
    Changing the subject, Donald Trump appears in Gibraltar this afternoon visiting Hassan's, the largest law firm on the Rock
    https://www.facebook.com/reel/673634862282073

    Red numberplates on the vehicles are for the Gibraltar Defence Force, the local military. No idea why
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,253
    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    FPT apols but in courtesy to @Taz

    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    Ok, in quite interesting* but off topic posting, I had Dzus fasteners on my 748 but just thought it was a made up brand name. Turns out there was a Mr Dzus, he was Ukrainian and he revolutionised aircraft maintenance.

    https://fb.watch/DmMAhC7yvY/?

    *I realise quite interesting is entirely subjective.

    Oh, I don't know. One of the most interesting history of tech papers I ever read was about riveting methods in the aircraft industry in IIRC the 1930s and 1940s. The introduction of new methods had an impact on weight and strength (and therefore again on weight) which was massive.
    Sounds riveting !!

    TBH I’d be fascinated by it too.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3104204 possibly? Sorry, memory very faint.
    One of the first things I did as an apprentice, 43 years ago, was pop riveting.

    I love engineering. I
    At school we made garden trowels that were riveted together. Real rivets, with rivet sets and hammers. None of this new fangled pop river nonsense. Came in handy when restoring a Series II Landy
    Was visiting Bristol c. 1990 and walking across the Floating Harbour on the swing bridge near the (future) watery grave of Mr Colston's statue. I think an Armstrong job, given the 1870s date and its hydraulic operation.

    They were repairing some of the rivets. One for one, using proper rivets - heated in fire and handed over to the riveters to swage with their hydraulic hammers. Never seen it before or since. Great stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Street_Bridge
    I have been in the 'engine room' of the swing bridge in Newcastle. The bearings are from a WW1 gun turrent
    This is the content I’m here for. I ruddy love that bridge. Crossed it loads of times. My mate, who’s a massive fan of Get Carter, came up from the Midlands for a weekend and his highlight was walking over that bridge (and up the stairs next to House of Tides).

    When I first worked at Lucas in Brum at Gt King Street (not sure if @Mexicanpete will remember it, he’s same pedigree as me) there was a lathe from 1913.
    I did my school work experience with Lucas Aerospace in Spring Road. Fun times.
    Fantastic. I just love our long gone manufacturing heritage. I worked for a few years at Clifford’s in Spring Road and I also worked at Lucas BW4.

    They even let me have some fish from the ornamental pond at the front for my pond at home. My sister doesn’t live too far from York Road.

    I know we progress but I do miss the old industrial heart of Brum.
    I walked the Coventry canal a few years ago, past a GIANT factory building, which I now know was built as an arms factory, complete with giant lathes buried in the floor, and rail tracks running through the building for deliveries (the tracks still exist in places)

    All of the canal bridges have holes in the parapets that have been patched. They were to allow the fire brigade to drop hoses into the water during the blitz.

    Diving through Brum last weekend i noticed the same feature on one of their canal bridges
    Not noticed that. I’m back down there before Xmas and will have a look for it. I do like looking at the declining industrial heritage.

    I’ve not walked the Cov canal but have part of the Stratford one as my Mom (sorry Luckyguy ) lives by it. When I lived in brum used to go down gas Street basin to the bars there. I also managed a few suppliers in the Black Country who backed onto the canals there.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,572
    JohnLilburne said:

    viewcode said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Jonathan Carley, 64, was arrested at his home in Harlech on Friday after being accused of impersonating a rear admiral.

    The retired teacher saluted the war memorial in Llandudno, North Wales, on Sunday while wearing a row of 12 medals over an ill-fitting uniform.

    North Wales Police arrested him under the 1894 Uniforms Act, which bars anyone who has not served in the armed forces from wearing military uniform.

    Not this one, thankfully, who is a different person with the same name

    https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Jonathon_Carley
    Different spelling of Jonathan
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06rj0hh
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,994
    franklyn said:

    Changing the subject, Donald Trump appears in Gibraltar this afternoon visiting Hassan's, the largest law firm on the Rock
    https://www.facebook.com/reel/673634862282073

    Red numberplates on the vehicles are for the Gibraltar Defence Force, the local military. No idea why

    I think that's Don Jr.

    I also have no idea why.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,723
    franklyn said:

    Changing the subject, Donald Trump appears in Gibraltar this afternoon visiting Hassan's, the largest law firm on the Rock
    https://www.facebook.com/reel/673634862282073

    Red numberplates on the vehicles are for the Gibraltar Defence Force, the local military. No idea why

    Donald Trump Jr.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    OldKingCole said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    I hope you returned the migrants!
    One in one out....
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 255
    edited November 14
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Against my better inclinations I watched QT for a bit last night, more in hope than expectations of Sultana putting up a decent show, unfortunately hopes and expectations were dashed. She’s not a supple or subtle thinker and reverts to slogans at the drop of a hat. Strangely there’s not much difference between what Sultana and Polanski are saying, but it shows you need something extra to front a party, or a movement as Zarah would no doubt say.

    Seen some of it as well. Thought she was very ranty whenever she spoke. Looked a sympathetic audience for her views too
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    Quite a lot of moths last night, for November. Including a few migrants...
    The moths were probably lured out by all the candles lit on yesterday's threads marking scale dog's birthday.
    There's a great image that does the rounds amongst moth-ers of Edison with a caption underneath

    "Where the hell did all these moths come from?"
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,618
    OldKingCole said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    November innit!
    We're at mid November, and is has barely got cold at all in the south. All sorts of plants in my garden have decided to have another go at flowering.

    The fools....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    Stuartinromford said:

    OldKingCole said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    November innit!
    We're at mid November, and is has barely got cold at all in the south. All sorts of plants in my garden have decided to have another go at flowering.

    The fools....
    Snowdrops are advanced. Primrose out yesterday....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,538
    williamglenn said:

    Is it mandatory to have a silly voice if you are a Labour politician called Keir?

    https://x.com/UKLabour/status/1989320485268607107

    "We've got a great record...."

    So try playing it at 33rpm rather than 45...
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 255
    Stuartinromford said:

    OldKingCole said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TimS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    That is one horrible band of rain across the country right now:

    https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

    I’ve just arrived back in the country and this is what greets me. Arctic darkness and jungle-like humidity.
    5 to 5 and dark already. Fuxsake.
    November innit!
    We're at mid November, and is has barely got cold at all in the south. All sorts of plants in my garden have decided to have another go at flowering.

    The fools....
    First day I've felt it noticeably cooler today further north, snow on higher ground. Been very mild and wet the past few weeks. I enjoy the cooler weather as the midges disappear
  • franklynfranklyn Posts: 331
    LostPassword said:

    franklyn said:

    Changing the subject, Donald Trump appears in Gibraltar this afternoon visiting Hassan's, the largest law firm on the Rock
    https://www.facebook.com/reel/673634862282073

    Red numberplates on the vehicles are for the Gibraltar Defence Force, the local military. No idea why

    I think that's Don Jr.

    I also have no idea why.
    Yes, Junior of course
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