Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
No. Less damage would have been done if children hadn’t received hideous treatment at the tax payers expense. It’s the “be kind” attitude which enabled that.
I don’t know if you are a parent, but “kind but firm” is a pretty standard MO.
When my sister was about 10 she liked to dress as a guy and insisted on being called Kevin (we negotiated her down to “Jason”).
After a couple of years she grew out of it and is now a happy & fulfilled mother of 3.
You can be kind and respectful without facilitating life changing surgery or medication
Today her teachers would have pushed her into gender affirming "care" and ended up at the Tavistock without your parent's knowledge where who knows what would have happened.
Parents were (and still are) being forced to accept this nonsense and kids are still being brainwashed by NHS trans activists and unionised teachers.
I'm glad to see the trend is reversing but there is a long way to go and God help those kids who were mutilated during this craze who, unlike your sister, didn't get a chance to grow out of it.
The US lawsuits over this are going to be crazy, with private doctors pushing it for the six-figure paydays.
All set up by Conservatives who thought cutting the budgets for justice, courts, policing and border force was simple and consequence free, and that spending time carefully crafting laws wishy washy. .
It's not even very much money either, a little could go a long way in justice and the courts.
But the public just eat up 'Let's make X a new offence/toughen sentences'.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
No. Less damage would have been done if children hadn’t received hideous treatment at the tax payers expense. It’s the “be kind” attitude which enabled that.
A young person very close to me went through a phase of being genderfluid. It got as bad as asking quite persistently for pills - puberty blockers
Thank God her mum is sensible and said No. Not a thing until you’re 18. Pronouns fine, surgery no bloody way. Kind but firm as @StillWaters puts it
She’s now forgotten the whole trans thing and is happily female, wears dresses, and is voluptuously in love with some young Brazilian guy - who loves her right back. Yay
But I feel for those families where it didn’t turn out this way
The SC decision on what sex means for the Equality Act seems to have unleashed a torrent of "see? trans is a bunch of nonsense" sentiment that is uninformed, illogical, and bigoted.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
The fundamental characteristic of the PB centrist dads is Cowardice. They are all desperate cowards
There was this bloke once posted here who felt he could no longer opine under his own name. Perhaps he was a centrist dad?
(Of course I post under a pseudonym too, so I'm hardly a man to criticise)
There are people on the wrong side of Erdogan in Turkey who probably need asylum but it's not going to be the sort of people who arrive here by boat imv.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
I'm not sure he'd be looked at if there was a criminal case involving tying shoe laces.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
Or made young people more scared of coming out trans.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
The fundamental characteristic of the PB centrist dads is Cowardice. They are all desperate cowards
This is coming from someone who panics at the drop of a hat three times a day.
If someone were to sign up to sell their property with an estate agent on Monday, and then, the next day, bump into someone they knew who agreed to buy the property from them before the agent had done any marketing or advertising, where do they stand?
There is apparently a 14 day cooling off period from signing the agreement, but I am not sure (this person is me if you hadn't guessed!) exactly what it means
A belated post of appreciation for a thoughtful, if a little disheartening, post from @Nigelb
It looks like Eli Lilly are eating Novo Nordisks lunch with weight loss drugs.
Biopharma is a high tech, high wage, industry we should be targetting to grow. Sadly it’s likely to stall.
Early days for the weight loss competition. The big thing will be producing a pill rather than injection, which is effective and doesn't come with as many adverse reactions (nausea being a major reason for discontinuation with all the existing drugs, to a greater or lesser extent, for example).
It's a huge market, and there's room for quite a lot of differentiation.
My friend is on GLP1 inhibitors and while it helps with his diabetes/weight it is a significant constraint on his life style. Finds eating out difficult as he is full after a very modest main. No pudding or starter. Now thats not a huge problem, but it can affect mental health too.
Why is that difficult?
You have 2 starters, one as a main, and no pudding. Perhaps a coffee or a mint tea if you want to be companionable
My friend has been very used to enjoying food and now his enjoyment is massively curtailed. Drinking too, he finds more than a pint difficult (volume).
A friend of mine had part of her stomach removed in Turkey to lose weight.
Did the job. But the jabs would be better.
Good luck to anyone who can find something that works for them, and sustain it.
I'm wary of the idea of jabs, these things can have side-effects or consequences in general. Surgery is unpleasant too.
Personally I'm coming up to the second anniversary of switching to a carnivore diet and that's worked very well for me. It is strange now looking back at old pictures and realising how I used to look but thankfully not anymore.
I'm now over 60 lbs down and keeping it off. Just eat more meat.
Where do you get the carnivores to eat? My local butcher only sells herbivores.
LOL!
Though most seafood are carnivores, so you've got calamari, crustaceans, salmon etc
Land-based pigs and chickens are omnivores, so you've got pork, bacon, gammon and more from your butcher you could go for.
I probably eat more actual carnivores than vegans eat actual vegans.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
The fundamental characteristic of the PB centrist dads is Cowardice. They are all desperate cowards
So during covid they would have headed for a bolt hole out of the smoke?
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
If someone were to sign up to sell their property with an estate agent on Monday, and then, the next day, bump into someone they knew who agreed to buy the property from them before the agent had done any marketing or advertising, where do they stand?
There is apparently a 14 day cooling off period from signing the agreement, but I am not sure (this person is me if you hadn't guessed!) what exactly it means
You could tell the EA you’ve changed your mind, cancel, and sell to your contact. No risk of being sued for their fee.
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
He certainly lives an interesting life. Access to a nice Bentley via a mate, regular road trips to Benidorm and £20k in cash, all while occupation is claimed to be "citizen journalist". And they say journalism as a career is dying.
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
He certainly lives an interesting life. Access to a nice Bentley via a mate, regular road trips to Benidorm and £20k in cash, all while occupation is claimed to be "citizen journalist". And they say journalism as a career is dying.
Whatever one thinks of him, one’s recalls the Thomas Moore defence of the devil/law. They really shouldn’t have stopped him under terrorism legislation. Despite the fact that he was surely up to no good (he was breathing, after all), I hope he gets off this one.
All set up by Conservatives who thought cutting the budgets for justice, courts, policing and border force was simple and consequence free, and that spending time carefully crafting laws wishy washy. .
It's not even very much money either, a little could go a long way in justice and the courts.
But the public just eat up 'Let's make X a new offence/toughen sentences'.
Some of it is also just paying attention and updating processes, which could indeed save money. Too much like hard work for the ex Tory/now Reform brigade when they can get better press by sounding off aggressively.
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
He certainly lives an interesting life. Access to a nice Bentley via a mate, regular road trips to Benidorm and £20k in cash, all while occupation is claimed to be "citizen journalist". And they say journalism as a career is dying.
I’m imagining that someone has looked at his tax declaration then his lifestyle and looked for an opportunity to open up an investigation. A stop where they find a large amount of cash probably allows an investigation to be opened - I don’t know when an unexplained wealth order can be issued but at some point I would think it will.
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
Mostly we have a ridiculously broad characterisation of what terrorism is.
If elderly vicars wearing t-shirts are terrorists why isn't someone who incites racial and religious terror for political purposes not a terrorist?
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
The fundamental characteristic of the PB centrist dads is Cowardice. They are all desperate cowards
So during covid they would have headed for a bolt hole out of the smoke?
Sorry. Cowardice AND stupidity
eg an inability to differentiate between sensible self preservation in the face of an unknown virus, plus a desire for a large luxury apartment in which to have flamboyant quarantine sex, and simple "running away".... constitues stupidity
If someone were to sign up to sell their property with an estate agent on Monday, and then, the next day, bump into someone they knew who agreed to buy the property from them before the agent had done any marketing or advertising, where do they stand?
There is apparently a 14 day cooling off period from signing the agreement, but I am not sure (this person is me if you hadn't guessed!) what exactly it means
You could tell the EA you’ve changed your mind, cancel, and sell to your contact. No risk of being sued for their fee.
Thanks. I did tell them that, and now they're bugging as to why. I want to just tell the truth, esp as I will bump into them/may need them in the future, but everyone is telling me to keep schtum
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
I note Yaxley Lennon seems to have been stopped under *checks news report* terrorism legislation. Despite being " no angel" as I think the common description is I don't recall him being considered a terrorist or potential terrorist by the state at any point. Perhaps the officers who stopped him have access to intelligence that he is. Or it might be a misuse of police powers. One or the other I suppose !
Mostly we have a ridiculously broad characterisation of what terrorism is.
If elderly vicars wearing t-shirts are terrorists why isn't someone who incites racial and religious terror for political purposes not a terrorist?
Both are ridiculous tbh, but this is a misuse of police powers; the other is a legitimate though ill advised use of the Home secretary's powers. I think Mahmood's comments on how we should be err "celebrating" the Gaza ceasefire were preposterous too btw
"Britain's most remote pub has cancelled a Harry Potter themed Halloween night in Lochaber after staff were subjected to "inappropriate grief". The Old Forge in Inverie, on the west coast of the Scottish Highlands, said the event was planned as "just a fun night" but had subsequently "proved dividing." Harry Potter author JK Rowling has received both criticism and support for her strong gender critical views."
Funnily enough I was in Knoydart a month or two ago. I have to say it is not a typical Highland community. Seemed to be full of well-heeled alternative lifers. The old church had been transformed into a very bijou-looking residence.
Nevertheless, a bit weird that the last stand of the hard-line trans-righters should be somewhere only accessible by boat.
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
The Cass Report (April 2024) was the key moment the weather changed.
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
The Cass Report (April 2024) was the key moment the weather changed.
I think that's a good turning point too. Maybe the first crack in the dam. It broke with Trump's victory and the court victory destroyed the remnants of what left of the far left activists trying to brainwash and mutilate kids.
Rugby and cycling commentators to lead TNT Sports’ Ashes coverage Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
Going to be shit. Might have to listen to Austrlian coverage....
It'll be shitter than the Indian commentary we had to suffer during Covid when Channel 4 ended up with the rights to the India away series.
Have to see if I can get Channel 7/Fox Oz or some such. Sounds like the TNT coverage won't even be worth stealing a stream
Sky used off tube commentary during the Blast this summer, it was dire as the commentators regularly didn't know if it was going to be a six or a dolly to mid off.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Thanks Fairliered - great suggestions. Lamentably, we arrive on the 27th! There looks to be a wonderful opportunity to hire bikes to cycle the length of Loch Katrine and then get the ship back. Another year... Very grateful for your input - thanks.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
Lots of good pubs in Glasgow of course. Perhaps your kids are not the right age for that.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
The Necropolis is also fun, if you like that sort of thing.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Naive of me, I know, but I was surprised when my order of Glasgow salad, while in a pub in Sauchiehall Street, proved to be a bowl of chips.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
The Cass Report (April 2024) was the key moment the weather changed.
I think that's a good turning point too. Maybe the first crack in the dam. It broke with Trump's victory and the court victory destroyed the remnants of what left of the far left activists trying to brainwash and mutilate kids.
It'll be interesting to discover what the Federal Court of Australia verdict is in Tickle vs Giggle.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Sorry
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
Yes, it was the Trump victory that allowed parents to start pushing back against the insanity.
The Cass Report (April 2024) was the key moment the weather changed.
The Cass review to my mind was no more and no less than a statement of the blindingly obvious. But it was authoritatively done and left the child mutilators with no where to go. It remains genuinely concerning that it was even necessary. In my view it has not ended as many careers as it should have.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
Thatcher said exactly this: whenever you advocate for a change you will get lots of active resistance, fighting you every step of the way, and then when it's finally achieved they will all say it would have happened anyway.
If someone were to sign up to sell their property with an estate agent on Monday, and then, the next day, bump into someone they knew who agreed to buy the property from them before the agent had done any marketing or advertising, where do they stand?
There is apparently a 14 day cooling off period from signing the agreement, but I am not sure (this person is me if you hadn't guessed!) what exactly it means
You could tell the EA you’ve changed your mind, cancel, and sell to your contact. No risk of being sued for their fee.
Thanks. I did tell them that, and now they're bugging as to why. I want to just tell the truth, esp as I will bump into them/may need them in the future, but everyone is telling me to keep schtum
Ah ok, no, so if you want to be honest be honest. Unless they're self-damaging spite merchants you'll be fine.
Yes, at the moment Reform are the main party of protest in by elections as the LDs were before them when voters were dissatisfied with the two main parties.
Hence the more people turnout to cast a protest vote, the better Reform do
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Naive of me, I know, but I was surprised when my order of Glasgow salad, while in a pub in Sauchiehall Street, proved to be a bowl of chips.
Last Glasgow pub I visited was so rough, even the arms on the chairs had tattoos.
It was gentrifying though as the toilets had toilet paper.
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
No. Less damage would have been done if children hadn’t received hideous treatment at the tax payers expense. It’s the “be kind” attitude which enabled that.
A young person very close to me went through a phase of being genderfluid. It got as bad as asking quite persistently for pills - puberty blockers
Thank God her mum is sensible and said No. Not a thing until you’re 18. Pronouns fine, surgery no bloody way. Kind but firm as @StillWaters puts it
She’s now forgotten the whole trans thing and is happily female, wears dresses, and is voluptuously in love with some young Brazilian guy - who loves her right back. Yay
But I feel for those families where it didn’t turn out this way
Now weep for the young people mutilated - because a bunch of creeps hijacked teenage angst, and a lot of lefties and politicians who should know better supported this madness
Which means that the panic was massively overblown? And the centrist dads were right?
What an utterly ridiculous take. The centrist dads went along with all this. It’s what they do. Now - as I predict - when it all turns out to be madness they will claim “oh we never believed it anyway”
No, the centrist dads - like me - said this was all going to blow over.
Basically, our take on most things is "there's a lot of ruin in a nation", and you do more damage by reflexive behaviours than by just ignoring it, and waiting until it goes away.
My view has always been - and I've repeated it 100x on here - use whatever pronouns you like (i.e. be polite to people and treat them as they would like to be treated), but no sport and no access to single sex spaces. I would, however, make accomodartions in terms of creation of gender neutral bathrooms.
That is literally the most centrist dad take you can have.
And guess what? It was the right take, and didn't involve being a total cock to people.
But it didn't just "blow over" it took court cases and a Trump victory to end the nonsense. The idea that it just went away by itself is for the birds. Without the effort of the women and women's rights activists, the American right and the LGB alliance the situation would be far worse than before because the trans activists were getting zero pushback from "centrist dads" telling us all it costs nothing to be polite when in reality they were telling us to appease the nonsense and knuckle under because they were afraid of being cancelled.
Also, Rishi and the resistance to Sturgeon's nonsense in 2023 over here.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Naive of me, I know, but I was surprised when my order of Glasgow salad, while in a pub in Sauchiehall Street, proved to be a bowl of chips.
Last Glasgow pub I visited was so rough, even the arms on the chairs had tattoos.
It was gentrifying though as the toilets had toilet paper.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
You were on Eggheads? That beats my 15 to 1 hands down.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
Good evening everyone, especially @Cookie. Just settling down after a busy day. I would definitely head for the West End rather than the city centre. I second the recommendations for the University. While there, you may wish to visit the Hunterian Museum. The Art Gallery is also worth a visit. If you are visiting the Art Gallery, you are close to Mother India for lunch. At the top of Byres Road, I would recommend Oran Mor. Try and book for A Play, A Pie and A Pint at lunchtime, which will be a very different lunchtime experience. Across the road is Waitrose, if you want posher nosh than Tesco’s when in the Trossachs. Off Byres Road, check out Ashton Lane and Ruthven Lane for some extra quirkyness. When you are in the Trossachs, the steamship Sir Walter Scott sails on Loch Katrine daily until 26th October, if you are there by then. I hope you all enjoy your break.
Naive of me, I know, but I was surprised when my order of Glasgow salad, while in a pub in Sauchiehall Street, proved to be a bowl of chips.
Last Glasgow pub I visited was so rough, even the arms on the chairs had tattoos.
It was gentrifying though as the toilets had toilet paper.
Toilet paper for southern softies though, we bring a rock for that purpose.
A fisherman friend of mine actually used a rock when caught messily short walking up to a remote loch in Sutherland.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
The Necropolis is also fun, if you like that sort of thing.
It is, isn't it? Weirdly fun. I do like that sort of thing. I went 20-odd years ago, the last- but-one time I went to Glasgow. Monuments to some impressively colossal egos.
I would highlight that much of the push back against the more radical parts of the trans movement came from the liberal left, most noticeably from feminist women but also lots of men from that side of the political spectrum (Graham Lineham, Richard Dawkins). The right played an important role too, but I don't think they would have been as successful without a broader political alliance.
I am another "centrist dad" who found himself labelled a terf for views on this.
There were plenty of people of left, centre and right who rolled over on the matter. I'm not sure it needs to be a point scoring matter that we've ended up somewhere more sensible.
In the 2018 midterms the Democrats gained 41 seats, they only need 3 gains for control, so even losing 19 seats they would still gain the House on the 2018 swing
Mike Johnson: "I'm proud to tell you that together with my friend Speaker Ohana of the Israeli Knesset, we're gonna embark on a project together to rally speakers and presidents of parliaments around the world so that we will jointly nominate President Donald J Trump for next year's Nobel Peace Prize. No one has ever deserved that prize more, and that is an objective fact."
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
The Necropolis is also fun, if you like that sort of thing.
It is, isn't it? Weirdly fun. I do like that sort of thing. I went 20-odd years ago, the last- but-one time I went to Glasgow. Monuments to some impressively colossal egos.
A nice view of the city from the top, but quite the walk to get up there!
The Cathedral is worth an hour walking round as well.
Off thread - are any of the Glaswegian contingent around ( @Theuniondivvie@Fairliered )? The week after next, the family and I are off to the Trossachs for a few days (me, wife, girls of 15/14/10). My vague plan is to head up via Glasgow, stopping for lunch somewhere agreeable in Hillhead/Kenvingrove type area, followed by a quick mooch around for an hour or two - then a big shop at Tesco for supplies for the week and on to the Trossachs - then on the way back, get a hotel for the night and spend 24 hours in Glasgow. If you were to try to impress a set of fairly upbeat teenage girls with Glasgow, what would you show them? (Daughter #1 has already put in a request for a quick mooch around the university just to see if she like the feel of the place). I'm in two minds whether to look for somewhere city centre or west end to stay.
I’d suggest the west end would be more chilled out for a family visit with lots of places within walking distance - Kelvingrove Park & museum, university, restaurants etc. Even a Waitrose to do your big shop! Lots of eateries in Finnieston (regularly voted one of the coolest neighbourhoods in UK) just along from Kelvingrove including Mother India as suggested by Malc, it also has the Hidden Lane for funky hipness and craft stuff.
Thanks uniondivvie - it's a good 10 years since I've been to Glasgow, but you're confirming my gut feeling. We'll stop in the West End for lunch and a mooch on the way up, and I'll look for somewhere in the West End to stay overnight on the way back, calling into the city centre during the day. Kelvingrove, tall ship, Willow Tea Rooms. Wish we had longer now!
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
The Necropolis is also fun, if you like that sort of thing.
It is, isn't it? Weirdly fun. I do like that sort of thing. I went 20-odd years ago, the last- but-one time I went to Glasgow. Monuments to some impressively colossal egos.
I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
And those sands and stumps are quite impressive compared with the sad ruin that is now Glasgow, once one of the greatest cities in the largest Empire on earth.
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But the public just eat up 'Let's make X a new offence/toughen sentences'.
You think young people have stopped identifying as trans since January, as a result of a Trump victory?
It's very easy to see whether this is just typical fads that come from teenagers not feeling like they belong. Just look at self reported rates of trans by State and by country.
(Of course I post under a pseudonym too, so I'm hardly a man to criticise)
There is apparently a 14 day cooling off period from signing the agreement, but I am not sure (this person is me if you hadn't guessed!) exactly what it means
Though most seafood are carnivores, so you've got calamari, crustaceans, salmon etc
Land-based pigs and chickens are omnivores, so you've got pork, bacon, gammon and more from your butcher you could go for.
I probably eat more actual carnivores than vegans eat actual vegans.
I think I might be sore this time tomorrow..
Alastair Eykyn and Rob Hatch will be based in studio in London whilst analysts are on the ground 10,000 miles away in Australia
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2025/10/14/tnt-sports-ashes-to-feature-commentators-10000-miles-apart/
Going to be shit. Might have to listen to Austrlian coverage....
The pay I get when I'm not working is barely enough to pay my bills
On the 2026 class etc, would that not generally be graduating years?
My daughter started year 7 last month which means she is in the class of 2030.
Maybe I can find Indian coverage?
If elderly vicars wearing t-shirts are terrorists why isn't someone who incites racial and religious terror for political purposes not a terrorist?
eg an inability to differentiate between sensible self preservation in the face of an unknown virus, plus a desire for a large luxury apartment in which to have flamboyant quarantine sex, and simple "running away".... constitues stupidity
Runs ...
I think Mahmood's comments on how we should be err "celebrating" the Gaza ceasefire were preposterous too btw
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn51r017656o
"Britain's most remote pub has cancelled a Harry Potter themed Halloween night in Lochaber after staff were subjected to "inappropriate grief".
The Old Forge in Inverie, on the west coast of the Scottish Highlands, said the event was planned as "just a fun night" but had subsequently "proved dividing." Harry Potter author JK Rowling has received both criticism and support for her strong gender critical views."
Funnily enough I was in Knoydart a month or two ago. I have to say it is not a typical Highland community. Seemed to be full of well-heeled alternative lifers. The old church had been transformed into a very bijou-looking residence.
Nevertheless, a bit weird that the last stand of the hard-line trans-righters should be somewhere only accessible by boat.
The last time I was in Glasgow was to record an episode of the quiz show "Eggheads".
Lamentably, we arrive on the 27th! There looks to be a wonderful opportunity to hire bikes to cycle the length of Loch Katrine and then get the ship back. Another year...
Very grateful for your input - thanks.
Perhaps your kids are not the right age for that.
The pay was poor but I got plenty of tips.
The guy who played ‘Michael’ in ‘I’m Alan Partridge’ - Simon Greenall - on the tube for one.
Hence the more people turnout to cast a protest vote, the better Reform do
It was gentrifying though as the toilets had toilet paper.
Palpitations wouldn't cover it.
He is very very much on the spectrum.
A fisherman friend of mine actually used a rock when caught messily short walking up to a remote loch in Sutherland.
I am another "centrist dad" who found himself labelled a terf for views on this.
There were plenty of people of left, centre and right who rolled over on the matter. I'm not sure it needs to be a point scoring matter that we've ended up somewhere more sensible.
I have been on a dance floor with Tracey Emin and Ronnie Wood.
Actually, when I lived in Shoreditch in the early 2000s you could barely move for celebs.
I need to be able to walk twenty five miles a day for twenty days
The Cathedral is worth an hour walking round as well.
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
And those sands and stumps are quite impressive compared with the sad ruin that is now Glasgow, once one of the greatest cities in the largest Empire on earth.