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  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    Eleven grand added to one's copper bottomed employer paid index linked pension is handy pin money.

    You've never had it so good. And we won't.
    Pete, if you spent 50 years working hard like me then i am sure you would be a lot better off than me , given my mispent lifestyle.
    I have earned every penny many times over and paid for many many future pensioners and lazy gits to get a pension.
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  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,504
    Nigelb said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    11k a year of other people's money they are working for.
    Dumb and dumber appears, yes they only paid 50 years for it you cretinous halfwitted thick twunt.
    Morning, malcolm.
    What did you have with your porridge this morning ?
    I haven't seen you so cheerful for ages.
    Nigelb said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    11k a year of other people's money they are working for.
    Dumb and dumber appears, yes they only paid 50 years for it you cretinous halfwitted thick twunt.
    Morning, malcolm.
    What did you have with your porridge this morning ?
    I haven't seen you so cheerful for ages.
    I let him have a double of the cask strength turnip juice.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,388
    Pulpstar said:

    Someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Sunak has his job, because surely it's not ... that obvious..

    He's interested in and has been a great advocate for AI, and he understands it.

    He's donating his whole salary to charity.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,990
    Very interesting piece of economic analysis.
    The implications for efficient government spending in terms if economic return are quite significant.

    This paper is one of the most astonishing feats of sustained data wizardry I have ever seen. Using data from Uber, they are able to estimate the roughness of every road in America and precisely estimate the value people place on it, and so much more. ..
    https://x.com/captgouda24/status/1976385852076179859
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,421
    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's no exaggeration to say an opinion poll putting Reform and the Greens on 47% between them is pretty mindboggling.

    We talk about Reform a lot, but are we underestimating how well the Greens could do?
    The Greens are all over my social media at the moment. I'm closer to the target demographic. Super positive buzz; lots of mad but interesting ideas.

    It's a nice change from from the relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians alive.
    :D:#:p made my day. WTF social media are you on if it is all those f**king halfwitted nutters. You have obviously overdosed on quinoa and tightened your sandals too much.
    Also relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians. Really. Odd.

    I’ve not seen a single video of this in any of my social media feeds. Makes you wonder what makes the algorithm spew them out.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    Lol, I am saving for my own retirement on top of paying a six figure tax bill every year to pay the pensions of all the lovely grateful old people, thanks Malcolm. I get no child benefit, no free childcare, no personal tax allowance, almost no tax benefits for pension savings... I have probably already paid around £2mn in income tax and NICs and I'm not 50 yet. I don't mind because I support a generous welfare state and progressive taxation. But I'm not a sponger.
    good on you, I pay lots for spongers as well but many people have paid for many years for their meagre state pension. Does not hide the fact that millions of working age people prefer to sponge and whine rather than pay their own way. Far too many have no morals , principles or self respect nowadays. Happy to live off the sweat off other peopel and complain as they think they are entitled to more.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091
    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Even by Guardian standards this is a quite outrageously misleading headline


    “‘We don’t want to be a toy town’: has Brexit sunk this historic UK fishing fleet?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/09/hastings-brexit-sunk-historic-uk-fishing-fleet

    If you read the text, what they mean by “Brexit” is actually Keir Starmer’s pathetic, treacherous fishing deal when he gave everything to the French for 12 years, in return for… nothing

    Before SKS:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c066r811z7ro

    Perhaps, just perhaps, we need to understand that fishermen, like farmers, always complain.

    Therefore most of their complaints should be ignored... :)
    They don't always complain: they complain when the harvest is bad or prices are low; they very cleverly shut up when the harvest is good or prices are high.
    Nah, there's always something to complain about. If the harvest is good and prices are high, it's the cost of fertiliser. If they've had a good day selling livestock at the market, it's that Joe down at another farm got a better deal on some ewes.

    I have family in farming, and it's a bit of a running joke.
    You will never see a poor farmer
    Why, are you blind?
    There are none as blind as those that will not see. Get ye out of that ivory tower and see the light young man
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 45,863
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    If literally everything becomes automated what will happen to American tipping culture? I bet they find a way to perpetuate it

    “Why am I tipping a machine?”

    “Because someone invented the machine”

    “He’s dead”

    “Yeah but someone has to look after his grave”

    And yet even Americans don't tip either airline pilots or airline stewarts/stewardesses. (Sorry for not using whatever the new terms are for those jobs).
    Cabin crew.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,183
    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's no exaggeration to say an opinion poll putting Reform and the Greens on 47% between them is pretty mindboggling.

    We talk about Reform a lot, but are we underestimating how well the Greens could do?
    The Greens are all over my social media at the moment. I'm closer to the target demographic. Super positive buzz; lots of mad but interesting ideas.

    It's a nice change from from the relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians alive.
    :D:#:p made my day. WTF social media are you on if it is all those f**king halfwitted nutters. You have obviously overdosed on quinoa and tightened your sandals too much.
    Also relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians. Really. Odd.

    I’ve not seen a single video of this in any of my social media feeds. Makes you wonder what makes the algorithm spew them out.
    Stuff that the algo calculates will annoy and therefore engage.
    Same as it does for everyone else.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,537
    Abolishing income tax, VAT, beer tax and car tax would poll well too!

  • TazTaz Posts: 21,421
    edited October 10

    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's no exaggeration to say an opinion poll putting Reform and the Greens on 47% between them is pretty mindboggling.

    We talk about Reform a lot, but are we underestimating how well the Greens could do?
    The Greens are all over my social media at the moment. I'm closer to the target demographic. Super positive buzz; lots of mad but interesting ideas.

    It's a nice change from from the relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians alive.
    :D:#:p made my day. WTF social media are you on if it is all those f**king halfwitted nutters. You have obviously overdosed on quinoa and tightened your sandals too much.
    Also relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians. Really. Odd.

    I’ve not seen a single video of this in any of my social media feeds. Makes you wonder what makes the algorithm spew them out.
    Stuff that the algo calculates will annoy and therefore engage.
    Same as it does for everyone else.
    The stuff my social media feeds to me is generally stuff I am interested in. Old TV, wrestling, investing, nostalgia, local stuff.

    It doesn’t feed stuff that annoys.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091
    TimS said:

    The great Facebook Boomer meme paradox out in force this morning.

    1. “Modern Britain is shit, the country is going to the dogs. It was much better in the olden days”
    2. “Life in the olden days was nasty, brutish and short. If you didn’t work you starved. You modern lot have it so easy”.

    You have the "short" wrong, given the fantasies on here about boomers living high on the hog on today's whining lowlifes how could life have been short.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "The Princess of Wales has warned that an overload of smartphones and computer screens is creating an "epidemic of disconnection" that disrupts family life.

    "While digital devices promise to keep us connected, they frequently do the opposite," writes Catherine, in an essay written in collaboration with Prof Robert Waldinger from Harvard Medical School.

    Catherine says smartphones and gadgets have become a "constant distraction, fragmenting our focus" and undermining the time that families spend together.

    "We're physically present but mentally absent, unable to fully engage with the people right in front of us," writes the princess, in an essay that's part of her early years education campaign."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgek62l6pzo

    I was going to read the article but got distracted by a cat TikTok, and ohhhh… did you know Tylenol causes… and those cruise ships, that story about it losing, sound.. ooohh… right, the Wi-Fi on cruise ships! It’s basically powered by seagull enthusiasm and three gerbils in a wheel. Anyway, I was just about to Google that when I remembered the email I never sent to myself reminding me to find out what that noise in the fridge was. Turns out it wasn’t the fridge. Or maybe it was.

    And speaking of fridges. Why don’t they make jokes when you open it? “Hey close the door, this isn’t a sauna.” I’d buy that. Oh! Sultana! That's Your Party, right?

    That reminds me I need to look up whether eucalyptus oil actually makes you live longer or if that’s just something the spa lady said while selling me the $37 towel.

    But anyway, back to the article.

    Wait.

    Was it about Tylenol or cruise ships? Or cats? Or possibly climate change? Because the cat was definitely on a cruise ship, wearing a little sailor hat, and honestly that’s the kind of leadership we need in government.
    You know, I went to a lot of trouble with that comment.

    Philistines.
    Moral is don't buy cheap towels
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,254
    Pulpstar said:

    Someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Sunak has his job, because surely it's not ... that obvious..

    Because he stood for election and more people voted for him than any other candidate?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091
    DavidL said:

    malcolmg said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    @GinaDavidson@ginadavidsonlbc

    Scottish Govt has confirmed it will vote against the Right to Recovery Bill being voted on at Stage 1 in Holyrood today. If it falls, then there will be no further action on it. Douglas Ross had hoped SNP would abstain so it could at least go to Stage 2 and be amended.

    https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1976294147821900081

    stephendaisley.substack.com@JournoStephen

    Scotland is the drugs deaths capital of Europe.

    The SNP will today vote against helping people to get themselves off drugs.

    You are not misreading this.

    https://x.com/JournoStephen/status/1976302554058310012

    Those losers still spouting crap.
    Our records for drug deaths in Scotland are absolutely the worst in Europe and far worse than any other part of the UK. The Scottish government says that reducing this is a priority but then vote down this bill giving addicts an entitlement to rehabilitation and treatment at first reading. The cognitive dissonance is, once again, deafening.
    David, they need a good boot up the arse not free drugs etc. We are in this state due to all these f**kin do gooders handing out free methadone etc.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091
    Nigelb said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    I'm guessing that the pensioner gravy train will derail just before I reach retirement age.

    some feckin gravy train , 11K a year. work and save your own money sponger.
    11k a year of other people's money they are working for.
    Dumb and dumber appears, yes they only paid 50 years for it you cretinous halfwitted thick twunt.
    Morning, malcolm.
    What did you have with your porridge this morning ?
    I haven't seen you so cheerful for ages.
    LOL, not had any yet Nigel, just warming up for work.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,091

    Pulpstar said:

    Someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Sunak has his job, because surely it's not ... that obvious..

    He's interested in and has been a great advocate for AI, and he understands it.

    He's donating his whole salary to charity.
    Halfwit
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,890
    malcolmg said:

    rcs1000 said:

    malcolmg said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Even by Guardian standards this is a quite outrageously misleading headline


    “‘We don’t want to be a toy town’: has Brexit sunk this historic UK fishing fleet?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/09/hastings-brexit-sunk-historic-uk-fishing-fleet

    If you read the text, what they mean by “Brexit” is actually Keir Starmer’s pathetic, treacherous fishing deal when he gave everything to the French for 12 years, in return for… nothing

    Before SKS:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c066r811z7ro

    Perhaps, just perhaps, we need to understand that fishermen, like farmers, always complain.

    Therefore most of their complaints should be ignored... :)
    They don't always complain: they complain when the harvest is bad or prices are low; they very cleverly shut up when the harvest is good or prices are high.
    Nah, there's always something to complain about. If the harvest is good and prices are high, it's the cost of fertiliser. If they've had a good day selling livestock at the market, it's that Joe down at another farm got a better deal on some ewes.

    I have family in farming, and it's a bit of a running joke.
    You will never see a poor farmer
    Why, are you blind?
    There are none as blind as those that will not see. Get ye out of that ivory tower and see the light young man
    Upland sheep farmers are clinging on by their fingernails at the moment, and even in the good times it was not luxury.

    The agri-businesses are hoovering up family farms and the outlook for small or even medium size farms is bleak indeed. Entrepreneurship in farming, as across the UK economy, is being crushed by well capitalized corporations, masquerading as family farms.

    I genuinely fear for the farming economy of the North East, now the Keith depot of Muller (Wiseman) has gone and most of the processing is in East Kilbride. Meanwhile the restrictions on livestock reduce margins to a few pounds per beast. It is not a matter of quality, Aberdeenshire and Angus are famous for their beef quality, it is a matter of large Corporates ruthlessly exploiting their advantages at the expense of the farmers.

    In this case the moans are more than a little justified, as you will find most days at the Thainstone mart.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,504
    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's no exaggeration to say an opinion poll putting Reform and the Greens on 47% between them is pretty mindboggling.

    We talk about Reform a lot, but are we underestimating how well the Greens could do?
    The Greens are all over my social media at the moment. I'm closer to the target demographic. Super positive buzz; lots of mad but interesting ideas.

    It's a nice change from from the relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians alive.
    :D:#:p made my day. WTF social media are you on if it is all those f**king halfwitted nutters. You have obviously overdosed on quinoa and tightened your sandals too much.
    Also relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians. Really. Odd.

    I’ve not seen a single video of this in any of my social media feeds. Makes you wonder what makes the algorithm spew them out.
    The algorithm modifies to optimise “engagement” meaning further activity.

    So it either gives you stuff that you absolutely approve of and justifies your world view (which you share with everyone) or it gives you stuff which makes you fly into a rage (which you reply to and share with everyone).
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,162
    edited October 10
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  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,504

    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's no exaggeration to say an opinion poll putting Reform and the Greens on 47% between them is pretty mindboggling.

    We talk about Reform a lot, but are we underestimating how well the Greens could do?
    The Greens are all over my social media at the moment. I'm closer to the target demographic. Super positive buzz; lots of mad but interesting ideas.

    It's a nice change from from the relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians alive.
    :D:#:p made my day. WTF social media are you on if it is all those f**king halfwitted nutters. You have obviously overdosed on quinoa and tightened your sandals too much.
    Also relentless videos of the IDF burning Palestinians. Really. Odd.

    I’ve not seen a single video of this in any of my social media feeds. Makes you wonder what makes the algorithm spew them out.
    Stuff that the algo calculates will annoy and therefore engage.
    Same as it does for everyone else.
    Obviously you have poor skills in Twatter Rage!!!!

    When you see something you don’t like, you probably don’t post about it to all your connections on all your 3456 other social media systems.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,121
    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Judges from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit seemed poised on Thursday to clear the way for President Trump to deploy National Guard troops to Portland, Ore., and pause a lower-court ruling that found that Mr. Trump had probably exceeded his authority by declaring a “rebellion” where there was none.

    NY Times blog

    You know, I'm beginning to think that Biden should have attempted to post troops to Republican areas, so the Supreme Court could have squashed it, and therefore (hopefully) Trump would have been stymied.
    Instead he sued Texas for putting up a border fence, and established the precident that the Federal government, and not the States, are in charge of dealing with illegal immigration.
    Somebody really smart once wrote something about this kind of thing: https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/07/17/the-dangers-of-oppositionalism/
    Sadly the US is now totally split, and the polarisation makes blind oppositionism easy.

    Trump is so unpopular that he could announce a cure for cancer and there would be people standing up for the cancer.

    In fact, he’s now so hated that he could announce a deal for peace in the Middle East and we’d hear nothing from people who have spent two years shouting about “Palestine”.
    Personally, I think it's time for the US to split. Cascadia and the North East will go one way. Dixieland will go another.

    And the remainder will need to make a call.

    Sometimes you just need to recognize that things just aren't working out , and it's better to split amicably - as the two halves of the Roman Empire did - than continue as things are.
    Is there any appetite for that in the US at the moment ?
    Not really. There's a difference between wanting a thing, and enough people in power making it happen. See Canzuk for an example.
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