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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985

    moonshine said:
    The RAFs contribution to Operation Eastern Sentry is a couple of Typhoons flying out of one of the English air bases, I forget which one, and they have to be refueled three times before they reach Polish air space. Presumably three times more on the way back, and extra times if they want to remain in Polish air space for any meaningful period.

    I don't suppose Britain has the refuelling fleet to repeat Operation Black Buck these days, so I expect there will be plenty of use for USAF refuellers.
    • USAF use the flying-boom refueling method
    • UK uses the probe-and-drogue refuelling method
    They are incompatible with each other. Although an adaptor can be fitted on a boom to turn it into a drogue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling

  • isamisam Posts: 42,734
    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    So sorry for you and your wife @HYUFD. I hope you have found comfort in the things you have been able to do together over the last few days
  • viewcode said:

    moonshine said:
    The RAFs contribution to Operation Eastern Sentry is a couple of Typhoons flying out of one of the English air bases, I forget which one, and they have to be refueled three times before they reach Polish air space. Presumably three times more on the way back, and extra times if they want to remain in Polish air space for any meaningful period.

    I don't suppose Britain has the refuelling fleet to repeat Operation Black Buck these days, so I expect there will be plenty of use for USAF refuellers.
    • USAF use the flying-boom refueling method
    • UK uses the probe-and-drogue refuelling method
    They are incompatible with each other. Although an adaptor can be fitted on a boom to turn it into a drogue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling

    Even in the documentary "Air Force One" starring Harrison Ford?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,010
    Cicero said:

    Bright Northern Lights in Tallinn tonight.

    St Petersburg on fire?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,298
    Foxy said:

    moonshine said:
    The RAFs contribution to Operation Eastern Sentry is a couple of Typhoons flying out of one of the English air bases, I forget which one, and they have to be refueled three times before they reach Polish air space. Presumably three times more on the way back, and extra times if they want to remain in Polish air space for any meaningful period.

    I don't suppose Britain has the refuelling fleet to repeat Operation Black Buck these days, so I expect there will be plenty of use for USAF refuellers.
    Surely we should base them somewhere more handy.
    It does seem silly, but there are advantages. It's easier to do crew rotation. You don't have to send a bunch of technicians and other support staff to Poland. If you want to stop the UK's contribution in a few weeks when it's calmed down a bit then it's a less obvious withdrawal than transporting all those personnel back to Britain.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985

    viewcode said:

    moonshine said:
    The RAFs contribution to Operation Eastern Sentry is a couple of Typhoons flying out of one of the English air bases, I forget which one, and they have to be refueled three times before they reach Polish air space. Presumably three times more on the way back, and extra times if they want to remain in Polish air space for any meaningful period.

    I don't suppose Britain has the refuelling fleet to repeat Operation Black Buck these days, so I expect there will be plenty of use for USAF refuellers.
    • USAF use the flying-boom refueling method
    • UK uses the probe-and-drogue refuelling method
    They are incompatible with each other. Although an adaptor can be fitted on a boom to turn it into a drogue

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling

    Even in the documentary "Air Force One" starring Harrison Ford?
    Indeed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE04pP8ifCk
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,219
    Nothing new to add to others’ comments to HYUFD this evening other to echo what they say. My thoughts are with you both.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,456
    edited September 29

    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    Terrible news. So very sorry for you both.

    if you are struggling could I suggest contacting Sands: https://www.sands.org.uk/support-you/how-we-offer-support.

    They have a lot of support and resources that they can offer including a helpline.
    Thanks Gareth and we will look into Sands as well as Tommy's who I think are the two main sources of stillbirth support
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,850
    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope there was some comfort for you and your wife in being able to give him a name and say goodbye.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,668

    viewcode- Castor Semenya is an example of "complete androgen insensitivity syndrome"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    If you saw a person with complete AIS in the street -- or even in a shower -- you would say "that's a woman". If a geneticist did a test, they would say "that's a man". And, if a technician did a scan, they would call everyone near them over to look at this individual with internal testes -- and an external vulva.

    (As a practical matter, I would say we should treat such individuals with sympathy and - except for athletic competitions - as women.)

    I see no way a person without ovaries can become a biological mother -- and I have long been curious as to whether they could, with some surgical help, and a partner, become a father.

    This is, I would assume, what happened with the Algerian boxer. And no she should not have been allowed to complete. But she deserved sympathy, not insults.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,850
    Imgur has been blocked for UK users. The only way to access it is now via a VPN. This country is a joke.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,843
    Newsnight again with their panel of 3 centrist-wokeists.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,950
    edited September 29
    Andy_JS said:

    Newsnight again with their panel of 3 centrist-wokeists.

    Enjoying the woman having to stop herself from accusing Shabana Mahmood of being a racist.
  • MaxPB said:

    Imgur has been blocked for UK users. The only way to access it is now via a VPN. This country is a joke.

    Online Snooping Act.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681
    The Saudis buy Electronic Arts
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4w3jzx807o
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985
    @Leon has a friend who transitioned via a series of surgical and hormonal interventions, including the destruction of the penis and construction of a vulva and vagina, and has acquired a GRC. He asked if his friend was a woman following the Supreme Court judgement. As promised, I will attempt to answer @Leon's query in a succession of posts. This is part 1

    Is Leon's friend a woman, part 1: The Supreme Court judgement
    On 16 April 2025 the UK Supreme Court was asked whether a trans woman with a GRC was a woman for the purposes of the Equality Act. It adjudged that they were not. The judge's ruling is attached but the salient passages are here.
    • "...We...use the expression “biological sex”...to describe the sex of a person at birth, and we use the expression “certificated sex” to describe the sex attained by the acquisition of a GRC..."
    • "...We therefore conclude that...The meaning of the terms “sex”, “man” and “woman” in the EA 2010 is biological and not certificated sex. Any other interpretation would render the EA 2010 incoherent and impracticable to operate..."
    Areas mentioned as being affected are:
    • "...changing rooms, homeless hostels, segregated swimming areas...medical or counselling services provided only to women (or men) – for example cervical cancer screening for women or prostate cancer screening for men, or counselling for women only as victims of rape or domestic violence..."
    • "...rape or domestic violence counselling, domestic violence refuges, rape crisis centres, female-only hospital wards and changing rooms..."
    • "...[single-sex] associations with 25 members or more..."
    and others (the sports section was complex and I've omitted it for concision)

    So by the Supreme Court ruling and despite her GRC, Leon's friend is legally a male for the purposes of the Equality Act and excluded from properly constitituted female single-sex changing rooms, homeless hostels, swimming areas, medical or counselling services, rape or domestic violence counselling, domestic violence refuges, rape crisis centres, hospital wards and female single-sex associations with 25 members or more In the next part I will turn to the EHRC Interim Guidance



  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,423
    Nigelb said:
    And Trump Jr. Don't skip the Saudi<->Trump friendship. I look forward to the 'rebuilding' of Gaza on similar terms.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,423
    rcs1000 said:

    viewcode- Castor Semenya is an example of "complete androgen insensitivity syndrome"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    If you saw a person with complete AIS in the street -- or even in a shower -- you would say "that's a woman". If a geneticist did a test, they would say "that's a man". And, if a technician did a scan, they would call everyone near them over to look at this individual with internal testes -- and an external vulva.

    (As a practical matter, I would say we should treat such individuals with sympathy and - except for athletic competitions - as women.)

    I see no way a person without ovaries can become a biological mother -- and I have long been curious as to whether they could, with some surgical help, and a partner, become a father.

    This is, I would assume, what happened with the Algerian boxer. And no she should not have been allowed to complete. But she deserved sympathy, not insults.
    Not allowing someone to complete is usually something that incurs an extra charge. Especially if they're wearing a Chelsea strip.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,527
    That is one courageous reporter:
    Nearly six years after the coronavirus first appeared in Wuhan, sparking a pandemic, Chinese authorities are still acting as though they have something to hide — and fear. Last Friday, a brave journalist who helped expose the impact of the coronavirus’s early days in Wuhan was once again sentenced to four years in prison, apparently for continuing to rattle authorities by speaking truth and refusing to be silenced.

    Zhang Zhan was charged with “picking quarrels and provoking trouble.” That’s the catchall phrase from Communist China’s lexicon for anyone who makes the regime uncomfortable.
    source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/09/24/china-journalist-zhang-zhan-wuhan-covid/

    (Her Wikipedia biography says that she is a Christian — which would make her even more a regime target.)
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,663
    carnforth said:

    viewcode- Castor Semenya is an example of "complete androgen insensitivity syndrome"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

    If you saw a person with complete AIS in the street -- or even in a shower -- you would say "that's a woman". If a geneticist did a test, they would say "that's a man". And, if a technician did a scan, they would call everyone near them over to look at this individual with internal testes -- and an external vulva.

    (As a practical matter, I would say we should treat such individuals with sympathy and - except for athletic competitions - as women.)

    I see no way a person without ovaries can become a biological mother -- and I have long been curious as to whether they could, with some surgical help, and a partner, become a father.

    In Semanya’s case I first became aware of her when my wife shouted ‘Come quickly, there’s a man winning the women’s 800m…’ So not in the shower but on the athletics track she looked like a man.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics_–_Women%27s_800_metres

    All three medalists in the women's 800 meters at the 2016 Olympics were men with DSDs.
    And none of them would have been in the frame back in the 80s... They were quick back then, 16 years for the men's record to be broken and the women's record still stands...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,423
    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    My sister lost a child in a similar way. So I have a little related experience of the feelings.

    Theo is a beautiful name.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,446
    From what I’ve seen of the peace plan on the face of it this looks like the Trump administration have put a lot of pressure on Netenyahu and elements of the plan will go down badly with his extreme right wing coalition partners .

    The point in the plan of allowing an amnesty to Hamas fighters is something that stands out .

    In an ideal world the two state solution would be in the plan . Even without that I don’t see a better plan than what’s being offered at present and one can only hope that enough pressure can be put on Hamas to agree to this and spare the Gazans more suffering .

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,671

    Barnesian said:

    Omnium said:

    Barnesian said:

    I'm warming to Andy Burnham.
    He's pro PR and Europe. Anti ID cards.

    I'd go and get that checked out if I was you,
    Today he spoke on the connection between PR and economic growth.
    Yesterday he declared that he believed Britain should go back into the EU in his lifetime.
    He has rejected digital ID cards in a split with Starmer.
    'Yesterday he declared that he believed Britain should go back into the EU in his lifetime.'

    I expect an about turn coming from @Mexicanpete and @Roger saying how great it is Burnham wants to re-join the EU after trashing him previously
    Ah, ban them both BigG. We don't want leftie Remainer traitors on our site!
  • Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,671
    Scott_xP said:

    I saw a clip this morning of what appears to be the filming of the Harry Potter TV show, in Solihull

    Could you tell it was Solihull by all the flags of St George draped over the lamp posts?

    I write that as a flag averse Sillhillian.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,671
    edited September 29

    Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    All (from Bibi's terms of Hamas reference) 2 million of them?

    I learned something today which might be of interest to you. When Arthur Laffer (remember 'arf a Laffer is better than a whole Laffer) came up with his spurious curve he was dining with Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheyney.
  • Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    All (from Bibi's terms of reference) 2 million of them?
    That's less than a quarter of the Germans we killed when we demanded their unconditional surrender.

    As many as it takes to win the war, there is no upper quantity limit. But not all 2 million provide support to Hamas.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,859

    Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    If making martyrs solved anything by itself the Middle East would be the most peaceful part of the world, not the most violent.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,671

    Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    All (from Bibi's terms of reference) 2 million of them?
    That's less than a quarter of the Germans we killed when we demanded their unconditional surrender.

    As many as it takes to win the war, there is no upper quantity limit. But not all 2 million provide support to Hamas.
    You are beyond redemption.
  • Fishing said:

    Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    If making martyrs solved anything by itself the Middle East would be the most peaceful part of the world, not the most violent.
    I completely agree it doesn’t solve anything by itself, which is why I have consistently said that what comes next is important.

    However defeating your enemy can provide a window of opportunity to see a new path taken and the cycle of violence broken.

    We're not still fighting the Germans, or the Japanese, who are both too busy making money to be making trouble.

    I'd love to see the comprehensive defeat of Hamas, followed by a Marshall Plan style reconstruction and reconciliation. That can only happen with the total removal of Hamas from power though.
  • Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    All (from Bibi's terms of reference) 2 million of them?
    That's less than a quarter of the Germans we killed when we demanded their unconditional surrender.

    As many as it takes to win the war, there is no upper quantity limit. But not all 2 million provide support to Hamas.
    You are beyond redemption.
    Bullshit.

    If you were in office in 1940 what upper quantity limit would you have set?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,315

    Scott_xP said:

    I saw a clip this morning of what appears to be the filming of the Harry Potter TV show, in Solihull

    Could you tell it was Solihull by all the flags of St George draped over the lamp posts?

    I write that as a flag averse Sillhillian.
    Shirley, possibly. Posh, real Solihull no.
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,426
    There is a notable amount of military hardware moved into Denmark by NATO members, with the appropiate people to man it. Air defence systems, radar, choppers.

    The air and naval activity around the Baltic is heavier than seen in decades short of planned exercises

    NATO, its European members in particular, are much more concerned than some drones chugging about over Denmark might be thought to generate. They certainly want to capture or shoot any drones down but there is a bigger play here and some nervousness.

    There is a Panamanian registered vessel sitting in the Baltic that is of great interest at the moment that they might want to board. If they do, it might cause an incident.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,671
    carnforth said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I saw a clip this morning of what appears to be the filming of the Harry Potter TV show, in Solihull

    Could you tell it was Solihull by all the flags of St George draped over the lamp posts?

    I write that as a flag averse Sillhillian.
    Shirley, possibly. Posh, real Solihull no.
    They are not only along the Stratford Road but the Warwick Road too and the M42 is bedecked with red and white from Hopwood to the M6.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985
    edited September 29
    Is Leon's friend a woman, part 2: The EHRC Interim Guidance
    The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) released an interim update to its statutory guidance for consultation following the Supreme Court judgement. The consultation closed on 30 June 2025. The final version is currently being considered by Government and its contents are not known but are presumed to be substantially the same as the Interim Guidance.

    The Interim Guidance contains, amongst others, these salient passages
    • "...Updated legal definition of sex...We have updated the legal definition of sex throughout the code of practice. Our previous definition explained that: ‘Legal sex is the sex that was recorded at your birth or the sex you have acquired by obtaining a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC).’ Following the UK Supreme Court ruling in For Women Scotland, this definition is no longer accurate, because a GRC does not change your legal sex for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010. We have therefore updated this definition throughout the code to be: 'Legal sex is the sex that was recorded at your birth.'..."
    • "...13.1.12 This means that organisers can prevent trans people from participating in a gender-affected sporting activity if it is necessary to do so..."
    • "...2.1.9 A trans person will...be protected from sex discrimination that is based on their birth sex..."
    • "...13.2.17 A hospital chooses to provide a single-sex hospital ward for women patients to protect their safety, privacy and dignity..."
    • "...13.3.11 A service provider operates a shopping centre and decides to renovate the centre. It initially intends to only provide separate-sex toilets to improve the safety and comfort of users. This disadvantages trans people because it means that a trans person cannot access a toilet catered towards their acquired gender. The service provider therefore decides to also provide toilets in individual lockable rooms which can be used by people of either sex..."
    • "...13.3.12 A community group is opening a small advice centre. It decides to provide separate-sex toilets for women and men, and it repurposes the accessible toilet to be used as a mixed-sex toilet for anybody who does not wish to use the toilet for their biological sex..."
    • "...13.5.5 For example, a trans man might be excluded from the women-only service if the service provider decides..."
    So Leon's friend is legally a man and cannot access properly-constituted female single-sex things like female sport (13.1.12), female toilets (13.3.11 and 12), or any male area where other service users could reasonably object to their presence (the male-only version of 13.5.5)

    Source: https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/equality/equality-act-2010/codes-practice/code-practice-services-public-functions-and-associations

    In part 3 I will turn to the Equal Treatment Bench Book
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,843
    "The battle behind digital IDs
    Secrecy has always been powerful
    Toby Green

    At nearly 2.5 million signatures, the petition against the Government’s proposed digital ID scheme has vastly exceeded the threshold — 100,000 — for parliamentary consideration. The plans have been decried by political figures ranging from the hard Left (Jeremy Corbyn) to the populist Right (Robert Jenrick). All the while, Cabinet ministers claim that the new IDs are designed to impair illegal labour rather than to tighten the grip of the state on law-abiding citizens."

    https://unherd.com/2025/09/the-battle-behind-digital-ids/
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,300

    Foxy said:

    moonshine said:
    The RAFs contribution to Operation Eastern Sentry is a couple of Typhoons flying out of one of the English air bases, I forget which one, and they have to be refueled three times before they reach Polish air space. Presumably three times more on the way back, and extra times if they want to remain in Polish air space for any meaningful period.

    I don't suppose Britain has the refuelling fleet to repeat Operation Black Buck these days, so I expect there will be plenty of use for USAF refuellers.
    Surely we should base them somewhere more handy.
    It does seem silly, but there are advantages. It's easier to do crew rotation. You don't have to send a bunch of technicians and other support staff to Poland. If you want to stop the UK's contribution in a few weeks when it's calmed down a bit then it's a less obvious withdrawal than transporting all those personnel back to Britain.
    In the event of fun with Russia, hitting bases closest to Russia will be the Russian priority.

    This is why carriers have their uses.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985
    edited September 29
    Is @Leon's friend a woman, part 3: The Equal Treatment Bench Book: May 2025 update
    The rules of behavior in court with regards to the Equality Act is laid down in the Equal Treatment Bench Book. The latest update is from May 2025 and takes the Supreme Court judgement into account by amending updates to Chapters 6, 12 and Appendix A

    The salient passages are these
    • "...17. Typically, it should be unproblematic for the judge to use the trans person’s preferred name and pronouns (“he/she” or “they”), regardless of whether they have obtained a GRC. However, where one side’s case hinges on the recognition of the biological sex of the trans person as crucial, and the other side on the recognition of their chosen identification, judges need to be careful not to let the choice of gendered pronouns give an appearance of bias, or that there is a predetermined conclusion. If possible, using the individual’s name instead of a pronoun where these pronouns are contested, or alternatively, the gender-neutral pronoun of “they”..."
    • "...18. There will be other situations where the judge may decide not to use the trans person’s preferred name/pronouns to ensure a witness can give best evidence..."
    • "...19. Witnesses should never be compelled to use the trans person’s preferred pronouns...."
    • "...28. The change to policy is a presumption that trans women, including those with GRCs, with birth genitalia and/or any sexual offence conviction or current charge should not be in the general women’s estate...."
    • "...29. The current policy is likely to be urgently reviewed following the decision of the Supreme Court...In the context of single-sex services, the Supreme Court has made it clear that there is no entitlement for anyone to use single-sex services intended for members of the opposite sex..."
    • "...34...A GRC does not affect...status as the mother or father of a child...A woman cannot become eligible for a male-line peerage by acquiring a GRC and a man cannot lose their eligibility. The effect of the GRA 2004 does not impose recognition of the acquired gender in private, non-legal contexts, and it cannot rewrite history..."
    • "...35...those with a GRC are not entitled to access spaces, services and protections that they would not have been able to access without a GRC..."
    So Leon's friend will be referred to as "she" by the judge unless they feel it's appropriate to do otherwise, and the witnesses can call them "he" if they like. Their GRC will not prevent them from being put in a male prison under certain circumstances, and it's anticipated that this will become all circumstances. They remain the father of any child they fathered, and in private may be referred to as a man. They cannot access any properly-constituted female single-sex spaces, services and protections. In part 4 I will summarise.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985
    Is @Leon's friend a woman, part 4: Summary
    From the posts above we see that:

    According to the Supreme Court ruling and despite her GRC, Leon's friend is legally a male for the purposes of the Equality Act and excluded from properly constitituted female single-sex changing rooms, homeless hostels, swimming areas, medical or counselling services, rape or domestic violence counselling, domestic violence refuges, rape crisis centres, hospital wards and female single-sex associations with 25 members or more

    According to the EHRC Interim Guidance, Leon's friend is legally a man and cannot access properly-constituted female single-sex things like female sport, female toilets, or any male area where other service users could reasonably object to their presence.

    According to the Equal Treatment Bench Book, Leon's friend will be referred to as "she" by the judge unless they feel it's appropriate to do otherwise, and the witnesses can call them "he" if they like. Her GRC will not prevent them from being put in a male prison under certain circumstances, and it's anticipated that this will become all circumstances. They remain the father of any child they fathered, and in private may be referred to as a man. They cannot access any properly-constituted female single-sex spaces, services and protections.

    In part 5 I will point out why Leon should not be concerned
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,985
    Is @Leon's friend a woman, part 5: Why Leon should not be concerned
    I'm going to have to be careful how I phrase this, but Leon's social class and the presumed class of his friend provides immunity to the post-Supreme Court world. People of this class flit from country to country at whim, breaking every law where inconvenient, taking drugs and being open about it, living in countries with appalling human rights records, and doing so without fear of reprisal because their wealth insulates them. Everybody they meet will respect Leon's friend's self-identification, respect her pronouns even if they don't believe it, refer to them as a lesbian if they form a relationship with a woman, allow them to use woman's toilets, stay on women's wards, and so on despite the fact that legally they are no longer entitled to these things or even legally constrained from them.

    This isn't just me being bitchy, that's just how it's always worked out. In my "History of Gambling" article I pointed this out, and in the pre-publication version I pointed this out explicitly with respect to homosexuality, drugs and gambling. This is just the next iteration.

    In short, @Leon's friend has nothing to worry about.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,843
    Switzerland has voted in favour of electronic ID cards - with just 50.4% voting in favour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681
    ohnotnow said:

    Nigelb said:
    And Trump Jr. Don't skip the Saudi<->Trump friendship. I look forward to the 'rebuilding' of Gaza on similar terms.
    Indeed; Kushner also involved in the deal.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681
    viewcode said:



    ...This isn't just me being bitchy, that's just how it's always worked out. In my "History of Gambling" article I pointed this out, and in the pre-publication version I pointed this out explicitly with respect to homosexuality, drugs and gambling. This is just the next iteration.

    In short, @Leon's friend has nothing to worry about.

    That's not entirely true.

    See, for example, a number of upper class suicides around the 1830s, as British social mores became considerably more repressive than hitherto.

    Or current S Korea, where even the rich and famous can suffer severe consequences (both legal and social) from falling foul of their strict laws, and the social stigma attached to transgression.

    Of course wealth provides insulation, but it's not always even close to absolute.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193
    Andy_JS said:

    Switzerland has voted in favour of electronic ID cards - with just 50.4% voting in favour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo

    Now that’s surprising, the Swiss of all people.

    Would be interesting to see some UK polling on the issue with a neutral question. There’s obviously a loud and vocal opposition to the proposal, but is that a vocal minority or are the proposals genuinely unpopular across the country?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681
    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Switzerland has voted in favour of electronic ID cards - with just 50.4% voting in favour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo

    Now that’s surprising, the Swiss of all people.

    Would be interesting to see some UK polling on the issue with a neutral question. There’s obviously a loud and vocal opposition to the proposal, but is that a vocal minority or are the proposals genuinely unpopular across the country?
    Is it so surprising ?
    They are a pragmatic nation, with a greater level of trust in their institutions than most other European societies.

    It's another indication, though, that there's a very fine balance between the obvious advantages and disadvantages of imposing such a system.

    My own attitude reflects that.
    I'm not strongly for or against the idea., but I am much more concerned about what sort of system we choose, and what constraints and safeguards we apply, if we do adopt them.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681
    viewcode said:
    That's an interesting, if slightly rambling article.

    The ARC seems to be a significant vehicle for the pollination of UK politics with the ideas of the new right in the US.

    ..Glasman met Yarvin through the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (ARC) – a London conference co-founded by Canadian psychologist and author Jordan Peterson, and bankrolled by GB News investor Sir Paul Marshall, who also owns the UnHerd site and the Spectator magazine. Glasman sits on ARC’s advisory board alongside right-wing thinkers Peterson and Douglas Murray, the Spectator’s Associate Editor...

    ..Another Thiel protégée is also on the ARC board: James Orr. As head of Reform UK’s policy think tank, the Centre for a Better Britain, Orr is known as JD Vance’s ‘British sherpa’ and plays a key role in shaping the party’s programme. He hosted Vance at his home during his London visit in August, and introduced him to Conservative Shadow Justice Secretary, and future Tory leadership hopeful, Robert Jenrick.
    Orr is also part of what Cambridge University sources have referred to as a ‘Cambridge Thiel network’ – right-wing academics nurtured with support from Thiel Capital’s chief of staff Charles Vaughan, who has made repeated visits to the campus. Orr invited Charles Murray, author of The Bell Curve, to an online seminar for Cambridge and Oxford in 2021...
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,583
    The irony is that while Lucy Powell is not the Keir Starmer political pick in this Deputy Labour leadership race, she really has become the female version of Keir Starmer the day before he entered Office in July last year for the misguided Labour membership..... The Labour party seems to be in genuine denial of the political or economic landscape in the UK which does not bode well for us over the next few years.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Switzerland has voted in favour of electronic ID cards - with just 50.4% voting in favour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo

    Now that’s surprising, the Swiss of all people.

    Would be interesting to see some UK polling on the issue with a neutral question. There’s obviously a loud and vocal opposition to the proposal, but is that a vocal minority or are the proposals genuinely unpopular across the country?
    Is it so surprising ?
    They are a pragmatic nation, with a greater level of trust in their institutions than most other European societies.

    It's another indication, though, that there's a very fine balance between the obvious advantages and disadvantages of imposing such a system.

    My own attitude reflects that.
    I'm not strongly for or against the idea., but I am much more concerned about what sort of system we choose, and what constraints and safeguards we apply, if we do adopt them.
    There’s probably some truth in the Swiss trusting their government to implement the scheme efficiently, honestly, and without scope creep, that isn’t there in the UK.
  • The ‘Singapore-on-Thames’ dream is over. PM Farage will need another plan
    ...
    Over the years, Singapore has developed major corporations, and attracted many of the world’s major corporations to open local offices. It enjoys a stable regulatory environment, commercial laws that are favourable to enterprise, and low taxes. But contrary to what many in Britain seem to believe, it was never a free-market free-for-all. Singapore’s model was state-led, as it moved “from third world to first”...

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/28/singapore-on-thames-was-the-wrong-dream-pm-farage-will-need/ (£££)
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,025
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Switzerland has voted in favour of electronic ID cards - with just 50.4% voting in favour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo

    Now that’s surprising, the Swiss of all people.

    Would be interesting to see some UK polling on the issue with a neutral question. There’s obviously a loud and vocal opposition to the proposal, but is that a vocal minority or are the proposals genuinely unpopular across the country?
    Is it so surprising ?
    They are a pragmatic nation, with a greater level of trust in their institutions than most other European societies.

    It's another indication, though, that there's a very fine balance between the obvious advantages and disadvantages of imposing such a system.

    My own attitude reflects that.
    I'm not strongly for or against the idea., but I am much more concerned about what sort of system we choose, and what constraints and safeguards we apply, if we do adopt them.
    There’s probably some truth in the Swiss trusting their government to implement the scheme efficiently, honestly, and without scope creep, that isn’t there in the UK.
    And they have safeguards and features we haven’t yet been offered
  • Today's Google doodle marks the start of the Women's Cricket World Cup.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,334
    I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/
  • Isn't today the big American generals meeting?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,681

    I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/

    Don't be daft.

    They were "just asking questions".
  • I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/

    One suspect White, the rest, who knows? There are lots of things that make the story unusual leaving aside the usual clamour for ethnic breakdowns. It might be this information is held back because no-one knows it. Cemeteries are usually unlit and unmonitored, and these rapes took place after midnight. Was the victim drunk and taking a shortcut, a sex worker looking for a quiet spot, or snatched elsewhere and forced there? Likewise the missing witness.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,403

    Isn't today the big American generals meeting?

    It seems to be some sort of bonkers pep rally by the Drunk and the Draft Dodger.

    Anyone not applauding is to be purged no doubt.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,025

    I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/

    Leon wrong again. How can that be?

    Posters who claim even a modicum of intelligence would be well advised to leave their pitchforks at home in future such cases.
  • Trendy indoor wood burning stoves linked to lung decline in new study: 'The damage is like smoking'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-15144281/wood-burning-stoves-lung-decline-damage-smoking.html
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193
    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,199
    edited September 30

    Trendy indoor wood burning stoves linked to lung decline in new study: 'The damage is like smoking'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-15144281/wood-burning-stoves-lung-decline-damage-smoking.html

    Sounds like lefty liberal woke bullshit. and they aren't trendy.. for me its a necessity.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,543
    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    The Russians did have some success with their motorcycle corps - at a rather large cost in human lives.

    But going back to mounted cavalry does rather reduce Russia's image as a country filled with high-tech marvels. Perhaps to counteract this, they're claiming their Su-57 wunderwaffe is now in combat near the frontlines. I am unconvinced...
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,775
    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Do cavalry traditionally share?
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,209

    Nigelb said:

    Absolute fucking loon.

    Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Fox: "We're announcing today expanded programs to help the American coal industry. We're helping it because for years it has been under assault. It was out of fashion with the chardonnay set in San Francisco, Boulder, Colorado, and New York City ... coal just makes the world go round."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1972640578027352329

    Words to warm @Luckyguy1983 's heart.

    Coal is dead in the UK for *power generation*. Its corpse should be cemented over and "Here be dragons!" signs planted atop. Which would be fitting, given the number of people who have died from the consequent pollution.

    That does not mean coal does not have other marginal uses; but for power generation it should remain dead.
    The word 'program' does not warm my heart in the least.
    Does Licence ?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,025
    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    The Russians did have some success with their motorcycle corps - at a rather large cost in human lives.

    But going back to mounted cavalry does rather reduce Russia's image as a country filled with high-tech marvels. Perhaps to counteract this, they're claiming their Su-57 wunderwaffe is now in combat near the frontlines. I am unconvinced...
    At least the motorbikes don’t feel pain, it must be a pretty horrible job for the horses.

    As for the Su-57, they claim to have 40 or 50 of them - there’s evidence for no more than 20, half of which are prototypes and the other half are missing key systems because of sanctions. It will be rather amusing to see their wonderweapon get shot down by a decades-old F-16, because we know that’s what is going to happen.

    The suggestion is that they’re rushing the Su-57 into ‘service’ because they have to, thanks to a shortage of other suitable aircraft rather than because they’re anywhere near ready to be operational.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,403
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    The Russians did have some success with their motorcycle corps - at a rather large cost in human lives.

    But going back to mounted cavalry does rather reduce Russia's image as a country filled with high-tech marvels. Perhaps to counteract this, they're claiming their Su-57 wunderwaffe is now in combat near the frontlines. I am unconvinced...
    At least the motorbikes don’t feel pain, it must be a pretty horrible job for the horses.

    As for the Su-57, they claim to have 40 or 50 of them - there’s evidence for no more than 20, half of which are prototypes and the other half are missing key systems because of sanctions. It will be rather amusing to see their wonderweapon get shot down by a decades-old F-16, because we know that’s what is going to happen.

    The suggestion is that they’re rushing the Su-57 into ‘service’ because they have to, thanks to a shortage of other suitable aircraft rather than because they’re anywhere near ready to be operational.
    If redundant F16s can shoot down the latest SU 57, one can't help but wonder why we spend so much more on more recent designs.

    Are F16s good enough?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193
    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    The Russians did have some success with their motorcycle corps - at a rather large cost in human lives.

    But going back to mounted cavalry does rather reduce Russia's image as a country filled with high-tech marvels. Perhaps to counteract this, they're claiming their Su-57 wunderwaffe is now in combat near the frontlines. I am unconvinced...
    At least the motorbikes don’t feel pain, it must be a pretty horrible job for the horses.

    As for the Su-57, they claim to have 40 or 50 of them - there’s evidence for no more than 20, half of which are prototypes and the other half are missing key systems because of sanctions. It will be rather amusing to see their wonderweapon get shot down by a decades-old F-16, because we know that’s what is going to happen.

    The suggestion is that they’re rushing the Su-57 into ‘service’ because they have to, thanks to a shortage of other suitable aircraft rather than because they’re anywhere near ready to be operational.
    If redundant F16s can shoot down the latest SU 57, one can't help but wonder why we spend so much more on more recent designs.

    Are F16s good enough?
    We might find out shortly. Those old F-16s do have more modern weapons on board, and the Su-57 is untested in service, but it will be hellishly amusing if and when it happens. Russia has struggled to sell Su-57 into its export markets, so any losses will make that task even more difficult in future.

    The Ukranian F-16s are also about to be joined by Saab Gripen fighters, adding to their arsenal.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,193
    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
    Not with the two fat f***ers on the back that they have in their photos, that’s for sure.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,634
    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:



    ...This isn't just me being bitchy, that's just how it's always worked out. In my "History of Gambling" article I pointed this out, and in the pre-publication version I pointed this out explicitly with respect to homosexuality, drugs and gambling. This is just the next iteration.

    In short, @Leon's friend has nothing to worry about.

    That's not entirely true.

    See, for example, a number of upper class suicides around the 1830s, as British social mores became considerably more repressive than hitherto.

    Or current S Korea, where even the rich and famous can suffer severe consequences (both legal and social) from falling foul of their strict laws, and the social stigma attached to transgression.

    Of course wealth provides insulation, but it's not always even close to absolute.

    In 19th century Britain, it was a consequence of the growing power of the lesser gentry and new middle classes.

    Gregory King made a fine distinction between the great and the merely rich. The great could defy all of society’s conventions ( eg, Lord Hervey, the Wellesleys, the Pagets, Lord Byron, Lord Melbourne, the sons of George III), and get away with it. For the merely rich, let alone the middle classes, to do so would mean social and economic ruin.

    But, by the 1830’s, the social values of the sort of people we read about in Jane Austen were starting to become dominant.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,996
    edited September 30
    I see that the latest Facebook conspiracy theory is that the FABIAN SOCIETY is the secret society responsible for all the country’s ills, implanting itself at all levels of government and wider society. Good grief.

    https://www.gbnews.com/opinion/fabian-society-uk-labour-leftwing
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,209
    isam said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    So sorry for you and your wife @HYUFD. I hope you have found comfort in the things you have been able to do together over the last few days
    I can only echo this and send you all my thoughts and best wishes at this awful time.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,209
    fitalass said:

    I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/

    Just a big reminder for all the tribally political men on this site...
    'A woman aged in her 30s was attacked by a group of men at the churchyard of St Mary's Church in Banbury during the early hours of Sunday morning, September 28.'

    Again, would you please give your heads a wobble on this site and remember that there is a yet another female victim here who suffered a horrendous sexual assault regardless of the make up of her attackers!! I just dispair of the way the actual female victims and their ordeals have been discarded and ignored on sites like this or on other social media sites while the focus becomes about a point scoring debate over the man/men who carried out the attack!!!
    As a rule I don’t comment on these. The victims are secondary to the point scoring. It’s sad.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,218
    Sandpit said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
    Not with the two fat f***ers on the back that they have in their photos, that’s for sure.
    2 soldiers in full kit is at least 150 kg !
    Poor horse
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,010
    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Into the valley of death rode the 600.

    "That was a great thing in Crimea, right?"

    The person who pointed out to Putin that it was the cavalry that died has just, er, died.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,543
    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    The Russians did have some success with their motorcycle corps - at a rather large cost in human lives.

    But going back to mounted cavalry does rather reduce Russia's image as a country filled with high-tech marvels. Perhaps to counteract this, they're claiming their Su-57 wunderwaffe is now in combat near the frontlines. I am unconvinced...
    At least the motorbikes don’t feel pain, it must be a pretty horrible job for the horses.

    As for the Su-57, they claim to have 40 or 50 of them - there’s evidence for no more than 20, half of which are prototypes and the other half are missing key systems because of sanctions. It will be rather amusing to see their wonderweapon get shot down by a decades-old F-16, because we know that’s what is going to happen.

    The suggestion is that they’re rushing the Su-57 into ‘service’ because they have to, thanks to a shortage of other suitable aircraft rather than because they’re anywhere near ready to be operational.
    If redundant F16s can shoot down the latest SU 57, one can't help but wonder why we spend so much more on more recent designs.

    Are F16s good enough?
    It's a bit more complex than that:

    Firstly, an F16 *may* be able to shootdown an Su-57 in the sort of battle that is seen over Ukraine. That does not mean that an F16 would not be outmatched in another environment, one more suited to the Su-57 and its design. Pilot skill and training is also a significant factor.

    Secondly 'F16' does not cover one aircraft and capability. The F16 was introduced in 1978, and since then has undergone a massive amount of upgrades. A late-1970s F16 is vastly inferior to one built this year. Ukraine has a number of older blocks, which have undergone some modifications before they were sent to Ukraine.

    Thirdly, the missiles matter as much as the flying platform (assuming we are not talking about a close-range gunnery competition). The missiles fired will matter as much as the plane itself, or its radar and detection systems. So it depends on the capabilities of the missiles both sides have.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,010
    Pulpstar said:

    Sandpit said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
    Not with the two fat f***ers on the back that they have in their photos, that’s for sure.
    2 soldiers in full kit is at least 150 kg !
    Poor horse
    A little bit more than 150 kg I'd have thought. Unless that "full kit" comprises string vests and flip-flops.

    Oh. As you were...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,543
    Sandpit said:

    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
    Not with the two fat f***ers on the back that they have in their photos, that’s for sure.
    Comrade! The bulk of these fine soldiers is an indication of the superior Russian system! They are fat because food is plentiful; they are drunk because the vodka flows like water! Whereas those in the effete west are slim because of all the food shortages in the west! Surely this is a sign that the entirety of the west should come under Russian control, so their men too may become fat, drunken killers like these riders!
  • NEW THREAD

  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,020

    Hopefully Hamas agree to lay down their arms and surrender, as I've wanted all along, and if they do I'd be delighted to see this war over.

    If its not, I hope Israel eradicate every last Hamas supporter until they do.

    Hamas's choice.

    Just a pity that so many innocents in the middle are being slaughtered
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,954
    IanB2 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Russian TV is showing off their army’s new unit of… cavalry!

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1972755394046132732

    Obviously the tank refurbishment factory isn’t working too well any more.

    Can they outgallop an FPV drone?
    Given that Ukraine has just demonstrated an FPV drone doing 400+ km/hr I’m going to go with no.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,485

    I’ve been out. I presume various posters have apologised over their false assumptions about the Banbury gang rape case? https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25501324.suspects-ethnicity-released-banbury-gang-rape/

    Apologised for what? For asking why they hadn't released more information? And now 'one is white', so what about the rest?

    I thought we had been told that policies had changed, seems they haven't.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,218
    HYUFD said:

    Thanks also for the kind messages and prayers sent to me and my wife after the birth of our stillborn son a few days ago. To update we have been able to hold him, read to him, write a card of our love for him and have a few days with him at least. The hospital chaplain also gave him a blessing. We named him Theo.

    He has now gone for a postmortem, which will take a few weeks but hopefully give us some answers as to why it happened, after which we will arrange a small funeral for him and bury his ashes

    Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
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