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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    Its all a bit tetchy on here this evening.

    Why don't you fuck off and join the Liberal Democrats.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,166
    rcs1000 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    Cookie said:

    nico67 said:

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
    Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.
    I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
    Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
    In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
    I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
    It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
    Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
    I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
    Singapore is, of course, a country which deliberately imports lots of low-skilled labor and is also highly regulated.

    Very low fertility rate too, but with a very high tertiary education rate.

    What they need is their kids trained as plumbers and nail bar technicians.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    Just doing an Adult Male Tickbox here

    Testicles descended? Yup

    No longer a virgin? Yup

    You mean you actually had sex??? Yup

    Not with a dog like @IanB2 ? Nope

    Moved away from Mummy? Yep

    You buy your own shirts, and you can move around for hours without going home to Mum for hugs? Yup

    6/6. Not bad
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714
    Totally off-topic but I have discovered the most life-changing application. It's called Wispr Flow and it's AI-driven voice recognition.

    So you install it on your PC, press a button, and talk - it cleans up all the text and just puts it in whatever app you're using. Saves tons of time.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714
    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off-topic but I have discovered the most life-changing application. It's called Wispr Flow and it's AI-driven voice recognition.

    So you install it on your PC, press a button, and talk - it cleans up all the text and just puts it in whatever app you're using. Saves tons of time.

    And yes, I did use it for that comment.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,926

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    Cookie said:

    nico67 said:

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
    Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.
    I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
    Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
    In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
    I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
    It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
    Is it really!! Goodness! :-)

    Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
    There will be things to learn from Pore as there is from many places. But you said we should take the template in full. That's plain daft.
    There’s vanishingly little in their management of the country that would not also work very well here. Though sometimes it would need a local twist. It was also a hard slog, it took 20-30 years to really embed his vision. Everyone here loses attention when a tv greengrocer goes to work with no pants on.
    I know the place quite well. It's authoritarian. Chock full of social control. I'm surprised that somebody (you) who considered our Covid response to be tantamount to a police state would be gazing longingly at it.
    Their Covid response was the reason I left. I am not homosexual but I have friends who are that left due to the official social intolerance, even though unofficially the social control hasn’t been there in a long time.

    As I say, they don’t get everything right. But almost all areas of policy they smash it. Just copy the bits which very obviously work.

    I know China very well. I worked for those commie bastards for years and have seen under the dirty fingernails right across the inland provinces in a way that casual visitors to Shanghai do not. Singapore is nothing like it.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,301
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Leon said:

    Mounjaro is fucking weird. You simply stop eating. Halfway through, your brain goes, Nope, enough, stop

    Some bloke in the Speccie this week has written a piece saying it also stops you drinking.
    It does, to an extent. The extent being - if you drink too much, you feel fucking awful (and I never used to get hangovers)

    I'm still trying to find the sweet spot. I can still (ins'allah) really enjoy one or two G&Ts, and indeed some red wine after that. But if I go over a whole bottle of red (which used to be a doddle, for me) UGH

    The ideal seems to be about 1 G&T and 2-3 glasses of red. But I'm still experimenting
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    rcs1000 said:

    Its all a bit tetchy on here this evening.

    Why don't you fuck off and join the Liberal Democrats.
    ....


  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,852
    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,852
    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    Cookie said:

    nico67 said:

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
    Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.
    I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
    Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
    In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
    I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
    It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
    Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
    I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
    No it doesn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
    I never pretend knowledge I don't have. It's one of my biggest quirks.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,301
    Looks like it could be a cold spell for the UK for the second half of the month?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,282

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    She was supposedly a prolific poster on Reddit.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,926
    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    moonshine said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
    I lurrrrrrve where I am now. Proper lush and all

    My genuine feeling is that we are heading for multiple epochal crises, esp surrounding race/politics and technology. These will culminate in the next 5-10 years, possibly sooner

    As Elon says in one of his latest livestreams "we are lucky to be alive in the most interesting moment in human history". I really really believe this

    Now, this is gonna happen, like it or not. So what do I do? Go and buy some tiny cave in New Zealand? To avoid it? Fuck that shit. This is fascinating! I've spent my life seeking risk and excitement, why avoid it now when it is REALLY risky but REALLY exciting??

    No, I'm here for the denouement. And London is probably one of the best places on earth to witness this, for multiple reasons. I've been gifted front row seats, and I am getting paid to give my opinion on the spectacle, to boot

    All I am doing is making sure my seats are really soft and comfy, with a good drinks supply and decent but Mounjaro-friendly snacks. Then: Eyes down. Here we go
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,166
    IanB2 said:

    Looks like it could be a cold spell for the UK for the second half of the month?

    It did rain on St Swithuns Day...
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    Leon said:

    moonshine said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
    I lurrrrrrve where I am now. Proper lush and all

    My genuine feeling is that we are heading for multiple epochal crises, esp surrounding race/politics and technology. These will culminate in the next 5-10 years, possibly sooner

    As Elon says in one of his latest livestreams "we are lucky to be alive in the most interesting moment in human history". I really really believe this

    Now, this is gonna happen, like it or not. So what do I do? Go and buy some tiny cave in New Zealand? To avoid it? Fuck that shit. This is fascinating! I've spent my life seeking risk and excitement, why avoid it now when it is REALLY risky but REALLY exciting??

    No, I'm here for the denouement. And London is probably one of the best places on earth to witness this, for multiple reasons. I've been gifted front row seats, and I am getting paid to give my opinion on the spectacle, to boot

    All I am doing is making sure my seats are really soft and comfy, with a good drinks supply and decent but Mounjaro-friendly snacks. Then: Eyes down. Here we go
    Yes every time something annoys me, I have to remind myself that none of it really matters given the technology tsunami that’s about to crash over our heads. The time might not be far away when we look back fondly on the summer of 2025 as an innocent time of quasi pasty-gate.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,166

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    moonshine said:

    Leon said:

    moonshine said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
    I lurrrrrrve where I am now. Proper lush and all

    My genuine feeling is that we are heading for multiple epochal crises, esp surrounding race/politics and technology. These will culminate in the next 5-10 years, possibly sooner

    As Elon says in one of his latest livestreams "we are lucky to be alive in the most interesting moment in human history". I really really believe this

    Now, this is gonna happen, like it or not. So what do I do? Go and buy some tiny cave in New Zealand? To avoid it? Fuck that shit. This is fascinating! I've spent my life seeking risk and excitement, why avoid it now when it is REALLY risky but REALLY exciting??

    No, I'm here for the denouement. And London is probably one of the best places on earth to witness this, for multiple reasons. I've been gifted front row seats, and I am getting paid to give my opinion on the spectacle, to boot

    All I am doing is making sure my seats are really soft and comfy, with a good drinks supply and decent but Mounjaro-friendly snacks. Then: Eyes down. Here we go
    Yes every time something annoys me, I have to remind myself that none of it really matters given the technology tsunami that’s about to crash over our heads. The time might not be far away when we look back fondly on the summer of 2025 as an innocent time of quasi pasty-gate.
    Precisely. You get it

    Quite often I walk past Google DeepMind in King's X and I just think "fuck". It is one mile and a beautiful canal stroll from my flat. I love that. It is happening right here (and a couple of other places around the world)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,060
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    It's OK. Don't knock it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    edited July 16
    Why is the Afghan story potentially going to destroy governments?

    Two datapoints:

    1. The UK is now the rape capital of Europe

    "UK Tops Europe in 2024 With 114 Rapes per 100,000, Surpassing Sweden’s 96 Amid Rising Sexual Violence"

    https://deepnewz.com/britain/uk-tops-europe-2024-114-rapes-per-100000-surpassing-swedens-96-amid-rising-9fd02d38

    2. Afghans consistently come top or near-top of rapes-by-nationality across Europe

    "Yes, according to UK Ministry of Justice data (2021-2023) via FOI, Afghans in the UK have the highest per capita sexual offence conviction rate at 59 per 10,000, compared to the British rate of ~3 per 10,000. Eritrea follows at 54. Sources: Centre for Migration Control,"

    https://x.com/grok/status/1945159134799913454
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    Scott_xP said:
    Iran was too a short lived dead cat. Time to bring out the dead greys from the basement.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,127
    The Beeb has confirmed that a man did blackmail his way to settling in this country, by threatening to release information.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,326
    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    I don't think it's Trump, but a close associate, donor(s) or family member may be on the list in some fashion. Not enough to bring down the government but enough to do the MAGA movement a lot of damage but I think that the Trump team may be realising that the damage being done now is worse than just coming clean and drawing a line under it.

    My guess is that right now they are cleaning it as much as they can and they're trying to lower expectations so when they do finally release it in a few weeks they can say "see, told you there was nothing to worry about". The MAGA crowd may be gullible enough to buy it too.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    Sean_F said:

    The Beeb has confirmed that a man did blackmail his way to settling in this country, by threatening to release information.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o

    Remember, "this story will be forgotten by tomorrow" - @Eabhal, yesterday
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    Andy_JS said:

    "In my 12 months as an MP, I haven't spoken with the prime minister personally at all."
    https://x.com/SkyPoliticsHub/status/1945553038657175646

    Maybe this is the point at which Starmer wishes he'd won a 50 instead of a 170 seat majority.
    Francis Pym warned Mrs Thatcher of the dangers of landslide election victories.

    Tony Blair recognised the importance of putting things in the manifesto in order to bind backbench support.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743

    MaxPB said:

    nico67 said:

    If there was something in the Epstein files that implicated Trump then surely the Dems would have released that when they had the chance . For that reason I’m not buying any sources saying something is about to get reported .

    It might not be Trump but someone close to him or his business empire that he knew about and did nothing after the first Epstein conviction for running an underage prostitution ring.
    Or it might be linked with senior democrats - remember that Trump was a New York Democrat for many years.

    I have a strong suspicion that Epstein made sure that he got people involved from all sides, as protection.
    True about Epstein but it seems unlikely Trump is alienating his base in order to protect a senior Democrat.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    Leon said:

    moonshine said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
    I lurrrrrrve where I am now. Proper lush and all

    My genuine feeling is that we are heading for multiple epochal crises, esp surrounding race/politics and technology. These will culminate in the next 5-10 years, possibly sooner

    As Elon says in one of his latest livestreams "we are lucky to be alive in the most interesting moment in human history". I really really believe this

    Now, this is gonna happen, like it or not. So what do I do? Go and buy some tiny cave in New Zealand? To avoid it? Fuck that shit. This is fascinating! I've spent my life seeking risk and excitement, why avoid it now when it is REALLY risky but REALLY exciting??

    No, I'm here for the denouement. And London is probably one of the best places on earth to witness this, for multiple reasons. I've been gifted front row seats, and I am getting paid to give my opinion on the spectacle, to boot

    All I am doing is making sure my seats are really soft and comfy, with a good drinks supply and decent but Mounjaro-friendly snacks. Then: Eyes down. Here we go
    Don't forget to brush your teeth before you go to bed.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251

    Its all a bit tetchy on here this evening.

    I'm not.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off-topic but I have discovered the most life-changing application. It's called Wispr Flow and it's AI-driven voice recognition.

    So you install it on your PC, press a button, and talk - it cleans up all the text and just puts it in whatever app you're using. Saves tons of time.

    And yes, I did use it for that comment.
    What's new? Your old man was using a Dictaphone in 1963 (probably). Voice recognition dictation software has been around for decades, surely.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,282
    Leon said:

    Why is the Afghan story potentially going to destroy governments?

    Two datapoints:

    1. The UK is now the rape capital of Europe

    "UK Tops Europe in 2024 With 114 Rapes per 100,000, Surpassing Sweden’s 96 Amid Rising Sexual Violence"

    https://deepnewz.com/britain/uk-tops-europe-2024-114-rapes-per-100000-surpassing-swedens-96-amid-rising-9fd02d38

    2. Afghans consistently come top or near-top of rapes-by-nationality across Europe

    "Yes, according to UK Ministry of Justice data (2021-2023) via FOI, Afghans in the UK have the highest per capita sexual offence conviction rate at 59 per 10,000, compared to the British rate of ~3 per 10,000. Eritrea follows at 54. Sources: Centre for Migration Control,"

    https://x.com/grok/status/1945159134799913454

    This documentary is quite eye opening about some of the people who worked with us in Afghanistan.

    https://youtu.be/Ja5Q75hf6QI
  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,462
    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    Is anybody going to be shocked if we then find out they have been up to no good since being in the UK.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,127
    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    The individual concerned should be jailed.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,251
    rcs1000 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    Cookie said:

    nico67 said:

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
    Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.
    I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
    Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
    In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
    I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
    It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
    Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
    I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
    Singapore is, of course, a country which deliberately imports lots of low-skilled labor and is also highly regulated.
    Not treated too well, the migrant workers there.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    edited July 16
    Sean_F said:

    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    The individual concerned should be jailed.
    Well or at the very least forced to live in Middlesbrough. Got a feeling as part of the extortion, they will have demanded a nice pad in central London, perhaps some extra spending money and ability to bring their 3 wifes and 8 kids.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    MaxPB said:

    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    I don't think it's Trump, but a close associate, donor(s) or family member may be on the list in some fashion. Not enough to bring down the government but enough to do the MAGA movement a lot of damage but I think that the Trump team may be realising that the damage being done now is worse than just coming clean and drawing a line under it.

    My guess is that right now they are cleaning it as much as they can and they're trying to lower expectations so when they do finally release it in a few weeks they can say "see, told you there was nothing to worry about". The MAGA crowd may be gullible enough to buy it too.
    Remember it was a last minute volte-face on releasing the Epstein files, so presumably something important buried deep in the footnotes where a bright intern found it just days ago.

    That suggests it is not Trump, as he'd be the first name they'd have looked for, and not anyone else famous as they'd have been the second to 76th names looked for.

    I'd like to believe the rumours Epstein was working for the CIA, KGB or Mossad, one of those anyway, or possibly two, but I can't make it work. (Shades of Cap'n Bob Maxwell!)
  • isamisam Posts: 42,193
    Do you consider yourself a knobhead?'

    After losing the whip, Rachael Maskell is put on the spot by Iain Dale.


    https://x.com/lbc/status/1945575301192253500?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    Something else people (including Jacob Rees-Mogg) have questioned. Why the need for a super-injunction after material had been posted to Facebook?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    Leon said:

    moonshine said:

    Leon said:

    moonshine said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?

    I haven't heard this one.
    I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves

    It's pure peace
    That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
    I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me

    But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
    You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
    It's called EXTRAPOLATION

    Remember Covid, and quake
    I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
    Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff

    But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
    Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
    He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.

    It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
    I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
    Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?

    But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
    Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
    And doesn’t it show. She’d tell you to stop poncing about with your bedsit decorations for a start.
    There is far more satisfaction to aping Monty Don than Llewyn Bowen. Leon you should get yourself a proper prepper escape. Your own energy, water, satellite internet and food / booze production. It’s a life well lived.
    I lurrrrrrve where I am now. Proper lush and all

    My genuine feeling is that we are heading for multiple epochal crises, esp surrounding race/politics and technology. These will culminate in the next 5-10 years, possibly sooner

    As Elon says in one of his latest livestreams "we are lucky to be alive in the most interesting moment in human history". I really really believe this

    Now, this is gonna happen, like it or not. So what do I do? Go and buy some tiny cave in New Zealand? To avoid it? Fuck that shit. This is fascinating! I've spent my life seeking risk and excitement, why avoid it now when it is REALLY risky but REALLY exciting??

    No, I'm here for the denouement. And London is probably one of the best places on earth to witness this, for multiple reasons. I've been gifted front row seats, and I am getting paid to give my opinion on the spectacle, to boot

    All I am doing is making sure my seats are really soft and comfy, with a good drinks supply and decent but Mounjaro-friendly snacks. Then: Eyes down. Here we go
    Yes every time something annoys me, I have to remind myself that none of it really matters given the technology tsunami that’s about to crash over our heads. The time might not be far away when we look back fondly on the summer of 2025 as an innocent time of quasi pasty-gate.
    Precisely. You get it

    Quite often I walk past Google DeepMind in King's X and I just think "fuck". It is one mile and a beautiful canal stroll from my flat. I love that. It is happening right here (and a couple of other places around the world)
    And we sold it to the Americans!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009

    Sean_F said:

    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    The individual concerned should be jailed.
    Well or at the very least forced to live in Middlesbrough. Got a feeling as part of the extortion, they will have demanded a nice pad in central London, perhaps some extra spending money and ability to bring their 3 wifes and 8 kids.
    The Mail says this person has been allowed to move here with at least 7 relatives. Other sources say even more

    All of which we are no doubt supporting
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    kinabalu said:

    moonshine said:

    moonshine said:

    Cookie said:

    nico67 said:

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
    Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.
    I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
    Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
    In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
    I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
    It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
    Is it really!! Goodness! :-)

    Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
    There will be things to learn from Pore as there is from many places. But you said we should take the template in full. That's plain daft.
    There’s vanishingly little in their management of the country that would not also work very well here. Though sometimes it would need a local twist. It was also a hard slog, it took 20-30 years to really embed his vision. Everyone here loses attention when a tv greengrocer goes to work with no pants on.
    I know the place quite well. It's authoritarian. Chock full of social control. I'm surprised that somebody (you) who considered our Covid response to be tantamount to a police state would be gazing longingly at it.
    Their Covid response was the reason I left. I am not homosexual but I have friends who are that left due to the official social intolerance, even though unofficially the social control hasn’t been there in a long time.

    As I say, they don’t get everything right. But almost all areas of policy they smash it. Just copy the bits which very obviously work.

    I know China very well. I worked for those commie bastards for years and have seen under the dirty fingernails right across the inland provinces in a way that casual visitors to Shanghai do not. Singapore is nothing like it.
    Singapore also makes a metric shit-tonne of money from ships using the Strait of Malacca.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    edited July 16
    Leon said:

    Sean_F said:

    nunu2 said:

    The Ministry of Defence offered to expedite the review of a rejected resettlement application of an Afghan national after he posted sensitive details from a data breach on Facebook"
    From the BBC.

    We are a laughing stock.

    The individual concerned should be jailed.
    Well or at the very least forced to live in Middlesbrough. Got a feeling as part of the extortion, they will have demanded a nice pad in central London, perhaps some extra spending money and ability to bring their 3 wifes and 8 kids.
    The Mail says this person has been allowed to move here with at least 7 relatives. Other sources say even more

    All of which we are no doubt supporting
    You don't reckon he is a top academic or world leading surgeon then?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    Posts by Reform voters for Reform voters
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    Posts by Reform voters for Reform voters
    No, not that
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,202
    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    Presumably putting a ban on Muslims getting government jobs has also been suggested.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,368
    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    AIUI they gave only denied the existence of the *Epstein client list*

    That’s a very narrow definition

    I can quite see he wouldn’t have a document marked “list of clients for aspiring DA to prosecute”
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,696

    MaxPB said:

    nico67 said:

    If there was something in the Epstein files that implicated Trump then surely the Dems would have released that when they had the chance . For that reason I’m not buying any sources saying something is about to get reported .

    It might not be Trump but someone close to him or his business empire that he knew about and did nothing after the first Epstein conviction for running an underage prostitution ring.
    Or it might be linked with senior democrats - remember that Trump was a New York Democrat for many years.

    I have a strong suspicion that Epstein made sure that he got people involved from all sides, as protection.
    True about Epstein but it seems unlikely Trump is alienating his base in order to protect a senior Democrat.
    I mean that if one goes down, they all go down.

    A room full of explosives and everyone holding a candle….
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,961
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    Posts by Reform voters for Reform voters
    I wonder what it would take for you to vote against the tories
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    You think a shadowy cabal of Muslims arranged Brexit in order to replace European FOM workers with Islamic immigrants? It's possible. Do you think Cameron was one of them? Or Boris? Or you railing against a second referendum on pb?

    Of course it could instead be MOD civil servants and politicians got a super-injunction a year or so after the spreadsheet was leaked so we would not realise they are a bunch of over-educated twats with no common sense. CYA and all that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,321

    MaxPB said:

    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    I don't think it's Trump, but a close associate, donor(s) or family member may be on the list in some fashion. Not enough to bring down the government but enough to do the MAGA movement a lot of damage but I think that the Trump team may be realising that the damage being done now is worse than just coming clean and drawing a line under it.

    My guess is that right now they are cleaning it as much as they can and they're trying to lower expectations so when they do finally release it in a few weeks they can say "see, told you there was nothing to worry about". The MAGA crowd may be gullible enough to buy it too.
    Remember it was a last minute volte-face on releasing the Epstein files, so presumably something important buried deep in the footnotes where a bright intern found it just days ago.

    That suggests it is not Trump, as he'd be the first name they'd have looked for, and not anyone else famous as they'd have been the second to 76th names looked for.

    I'd like to believe the rumours Epstein was working for the CIA, KGB or Mossad, one of those anyway, or possibly two, but I can't make it work. (Shades of Cap'n Bob Maxwell!)
    Why would Trump give a crap about that ?
    If it didn't affect him in some way, the files would be released, whatever else they might harbour.
  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,462
    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922

    A significant article from Farage in the DM this morning: "Britain can no longer be treated like a charity for the rest of the world"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14908413/NIGEL-FARAGE-Britain-no-longer-treated-like-charity-rest-world.html

    For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.

    The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.

    Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.

    Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.

    I am warming to Farage, he acknowledges lawyers are as important as doctors and entrepreneurs.
    And social care workers, see Kent Reform
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,321
    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired..

    Your corner of X.

  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,462
    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    I'm looking at uni of North Wales because it's relatively cheap at £6,000. Of course I suspect u get what u pay for
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    edited July 16
    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    IMO, no. This is an area that AI / ML is already eating for lunch. And there has been a glut of data science graduates, because a few years ago it was thought to be a great opportunity because big data, everybody wants to moneyball their business, so loads of unis created masters in it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,696

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    But if you don’t have 8 full time staff monitoring the spend, it might get mis-spent.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,270
    Leon said:

    Sean_F said:

    The Beeb has confirmed that a man did blackmail his way to settling in this country, by threatening to release information.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rvyqd7wq2o

    Remember, "this story will be forgotten by tomorrow" - @Eabhal, yesterday
    Hey - I just wondered if it would explode, as you suggested, or fade away to nothing like most of the stuff you get excited by. It's telling that the one thing that really cut through was the removal of a freebie - the winter fuel payment.

    I measure this stuff by how it peaks and remains on the top 10 BBC News most read articles, that being the most pervasive media. It's been bubbling between 6th and 9th all day (currently 8th). And that Gold Standard YouGov polling suggests the public have - at the very least - mixed views on the whole thing anyway.

    Can anyone remember if we got a BBC News push notification on it? That also tends to steer public awareness and opinion.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
    Bin Laden would still be alive in the Afghan mountains though
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,282
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
    Bin Laden would still be alive in the Afghan mountains though
    I think there are other timelines where he ended up being killed or captured without occupying Afghanistan for twenty years.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,926
    isam said:

    Do you consider yourself a knobhead?'

    After losing the whip, Rachael Maskell is put on the spot by Iain Dale.


    https://x.com/lbc/status/1945575301192253500?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Does Maskell still support increasing immigration until Britain has reached 'saturation point' ?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,088
    nunu2 said:

    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    I'm looking at uni of North Wales because it's relatively cheap at £6,000. Of course I suspect u get what u pay for
    As someone who's been hiring in .ac.uk recently, I'd say a) do what interests you - ideally some geeky sh*t, b) don't follow the flock.

    People with time at the OU or UHI were much more interesting candidates than the 3000 who had all done the same Masters (albeit in different institutions) and had learned the same tools and skills their lecturers had learned 20 years ago when they took their masters.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,710
    edited July 16

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And, despite their dismal approval ratings, a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,088
    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    I'd maybe say there are two economies. The statistical economy, and the lived economy.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,088

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
    Bin Laden would still be alive in the Afghan mountains though
    I think there are other timelines where he ended up being killed or captured without occupying Afghanistan for twenty years.
    There are timelines where he played topless volleyball on Mars. I'm not sure how far that gets us.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
    Bin Laden would still be alive in the Afghan mountains though
    I think there are other timelines where he ended up being killed or captured without occupying Afghanistan for twenty years.
    There is also this timeline where Bin Laden was living (and was later killed) in Pakistan which is a whole different country.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,270
    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,709

    MaxPB said:

    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    I don't think it's Trump, but a close associate, donor(s) or family member may be on the list in some fashion. Not enough to bring down the government but enough to do the MAGA movement a lot of damage but I think that the Trump team may be realising that the damage being done now is worse than just coming clean and drawing a line under it.

    My guess is that right now they are cleaning it as much as they can and they're trying to lower expectations so when they do finally release it in a few weeks they can say "see, told you there was nothing to worry about". The MAGA crowd may be gullible enough to buy it too.
    Remember it was a last minute volte-face on releasing the Epstein files, so presumably something important buried deep in the footnotes where a bright intern found it just days ago.

    That suggests it is not Trump, as he'd be the first name they'd have looked for, and not anyone else famous as they'd have been the second to 76th names looked for.

    I'd like to believe the rumours Epstein was working for the CIA, KGB or Mossad, one of those anyway, or possibly two, but I can't make it work. (Shades of Cap'n Bob Maxwell!)
    Robert Maxwell introduced Epstein to his daughter Ghislaine.

    What Maxwell and Epstein were doing working together I will leave you to ponder.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    edited July 16
    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
  • isamisam Posts: 42,193

    isam said:

    Do you consider yourself a knobhead?'

    After losing the whip, Rachael Maskell is put on the spot by Iain Dale.


    https://x.com/lbc/status/1945575301192253500?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Does Maskell still support increasing immigration until Britain has reached 'saturation point' ?
    I wonder if that clip is really why she got sacked
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,270
    edited July 16

    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
    Isn't the business rates rise exclusively for buildings worth £500k in rent per year? So again, it's hardly small businesses that are getting hit by that.

    I think a progressive system of tax for business is quite a good thing. Will help to make those in the north of England more competitive, fend off some natural monopolies etc etc.

    Edit: it's actually a cut for lower value premises from 2026-27. Why didn't Labour sell it as a small business budget? Relative to large employers of minimum wage staff, small business has done really well out of it.
  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,462

    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    IMO, no. This is an area that AI / ML is already eating for lunch. And there has been a glut of data science graduates, because a few years ago it was thought to be a great opportunity because big data, everybody wants to moneyball their business, so loads of unis created masters in it.
    Yeah I didn't think so? Do you recommend any careers that are actually growing fast that I could change to? I don't mind paying for study if it's worth it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    In early 2024, the immigration inspector was sacked by the government after he raised concerns about too many 'high risk' flights coming in which no passport checks. The example he gave was London City Airport, but makes you wonder if there was more going on.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    edited July 16
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
    Isn't the business rates rise exclusively for buildings worth £500k in rent per year? So again, it's hardly small businesses that are getting hit by that.

    I think a progressive system of tax for business is quite a good thing. Will help to make those in the north of England more competitive, fend off some natural monopolies etc etc.
    The UK already has a huge problem with massive imbalance in terms of business sizings compared to the likes of Germany. We have loads and loads of micro businesses and then the giant multi-national corps. The changes have made it much more expensive to be a business that employs 10s or 100s of people. Where say Amazon already use loads of gig economy workers who "self contractors" and are automating away loads of permanent jobs in the warehouses.

    As for business rates, no it isn't mega corps again,

    Retailers currently benefiting from the relief will see their business rates bills increase in April on average from £3,751 a year to £9,003, and restaurants will see a rise of £5,563 to £13,351 a year, according to Colliers.

    The average pub will also see its rates bill go up from £4,017 to £9,642 a year, Colliers found, while nightclubs – already under significant pressure – will see their annual bills rise from £7,479 to £18,245.

    https://www.cityam.com/business-rates-to-more-than-double-this-april-in-final-blow-to-some-stores/
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,292
    Farage's chances of winning the next election must have substantially increased over the last few days.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,270

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
    Isn't the business rates rise exclusively for buildings worth £500k in rent per year? So again, it's hardly small businesses that are getting hit by that.

    I think a progressive system of tax for business is quite a good thing. Will help to make those in the north of England more competitive, fend off some natural monopolies etc etc.
    The UK already has a huge problem with massive imbalance in terms of business sizings compared to the likes of Germany. We have loads and loads of micro businesses and then the giant multi-national corps. The changes have made it much more expensive to be a business that employs 10s or 100s of people. Where say Amazon already use loads of gig economy workers who "self contractors" and are automating away loads of permanent jobs in the warehouses.
    I get that but I don't think you can claim that the budget has particularly hammered small businesses. It's the big employers of minimum wage staff in large buildings (e.g. Tesco, airports etc) that have been whacked the hardest.

    There's obviously room for a much bigger reform which sees the tax burden steadily increase with the size of the business. Whether you do that by property value, employment or profits is the question.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,189
    edited July 16
    nunu2 said:

    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    IMO, no. This is an area that AI / ML is already eating for lunch. And there has been a glut of data science graduates, because a few years ago it was thought to be a great opportunity because big data, everybody wants to moneyball their business, so loads of unis created masters in it.
    Yeah I didn't think so? Do you recommend any careers that are actually growing fast that I could change to? I don't mind paying for study if it's worth it.
    How old are you? Within 5 years will be enough, I'm not trying to doxx you
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,743
    nunu2 said:

    nunu2 said:

    Anyone know if it's worth doing an online MSc in data analytics or similar from a non big name uni such as Uni of North Wales?

    I graduated from Open Uni with a bio degree but have struggled to get a decent paying lab job... (Currently work as a science tech in a school). Im hoping a change in career would boost my earnings....

    IMO, no. This is an area that AI / ML is already eating for lunch. And there has been a glut of data science graduates, because a few years ago it was thought to be a great opportunity because big data, everybody wants to moneyball their business, so loads of unis created masters in it.
    Yeah I didn't think so? Do you recommend any careers that are actually growing fast that I could change to? I don't mind paying for study if it's worth it.
    Can you move sideways into teaching via one of the non-pgce routes at your current school or trust?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Andy_JS said:

    Farage's chances of winning the next election must have substantially increased over the last few days.

    Not on today's Yougov poll, most voters back the super injunction and taking in Afghan refugees
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off-topic but I have discovered the most life-changing application. It's called Wispr Flow and it's AI-driven voice recognition.

    So you install it on your PC, press a button, and talk - it cleans up all the text and just puts it in whatever app you're using. Saves tons of time.

    And yes, I did use it for that comment.
    What's new? Your old man was using a Dictaphone in 1963 (probably). Voice recognition dictation software has been around for decades, surely.
    The fundamental difference is that it isn't just voice dictation. It also removes the 'errs', adds punctuation, and even adds things like bullet points. So basically, your random stream of consciousness text ends up looking like well-formatted, well-reasoned, etc.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    Most farmers are landowners and most small business owners face high national insurance and minimum wage costs
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    This is why the scandal will only get worse. The ramifications are obviously horrific if you can EXTRAPOLATE, rather than relying on some dreadful YouGov poll
    None of this would be happening if we had not joined the coalition of the willing and invaded Afghanistan.
    Bin Laden would still be alive in the Afghan mountains though
    I think there are other timelines where he ended up being killed or captured without occupying Afghanistan for twenty years.
    There is also this timeline where Bin Laden was living (and was later killed) in Pakistan which is a whole different country.
    Having fled there after the US led invasion of Afghanistan which forced him out of the Afghan mountains
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,326
    Cyclefree said:

    MaxPB said:

    Foxy said:

    I suppose the logic now is that Maxwell will need to be pardoned next week as she is the victim of a hoax.

    Except we know that Epstein had a plane that made repeated trips, and therefore there are flight logs. Its simply impossible for the Epstein files to not exist.

    Though if Trump was involved, and if the girls are still alive, why haven't we seen more come forward?
    I don't think it's Trump, but a close associate, donor(s) or family member may be on the list in some fashion. Not enough to bring down the government but enough to do the MAGA movement a lot of damage but I think that the Trump team may be realising that the damage being done now is worse than just coming clean and drawing a line under it.

    My guess is that right now they are cleaning it as much as they can and they're trying to lower expectations so when they do finally release it in a few weeks they can say "see, told you there was nothing to worry about". The MAGA crowd may be gullible enough to buy it too.
    Remember it was a last minute volte-face on releasing the Epstein files, so presumably something important buried deep in the footnotes where a bright intern found it just days ago.

    That suggests it is not Trump, as he'd be the first name they'd have looked for, and not anyone else famous as they'd have been the second to 76th names looked for.

    I'd like to believe the rumours Epstein was working for the CIA, KGB or Mossad, one of those anyway, or possibly two, but I can't make it work. (Shades of Cap'n Bob Maxwell!)
    Robert Maxwell introduced Epstein to his daughter Ghislaine.

    What Maxwell and Epstein were doing working together I will leave you to ponder.
    Why would anyone ever introduce their daughter to that creep. Robert Maxwell must have known what kind of person Epstein was, wouldn't a person do whatever it takes to keep him away fron their daughter?!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,326
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
    Isn't the business rates rise exclusively for buildings worth £500k in rent per year? So again, it's hardly small businesses that are getting hit by that.

    I think a progressive system of tax for business is quite a good thing. Will help to make those in the north of England more competitive, fend off some natural monopolies etc etc.
    The UK already has a huge problem with massive imbalance in terms of business sizings compared to the likes of Germany. We have loads and loads of micro businesses and then the giant multi-national corps. The changes have made it much more expensive to be a business that employs 10s or 100s of people. Where say Amazon already use loads of gig economy workers who "self contractors" and are automating away loads of permanent jobs in the warehouses.
    I get that but I don't think you can claim that the budget has particularly hammered small businesses. It's the big employers of minimum wage staff in large buildings (e.g. Tesco, airports etc) that have been whacked the hardest.

    There's obviously room for a much bigger reform which sees the tax burden steadily increase with the size of the business. Whether you do that by property value, employment or profits is the question.
    Or there's room to cut spending and stop putting up taxes. We need £100bn worth of cuts to the government budget and everyone needs to feel the pain.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,282

    In early 2024, the immigration inspector was sacked by the government after he raised concerns about too many 'high risk' flights coming in which no passport checks. The example he gave was London City Airport, but makes you wonder if there was more going on.

    Private flights at all airports, for example that cocaine bust at Farnborough was the second direct flight they'd taken from Colombia.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,922
    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Fishing said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Dig deep wage slaves

    😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    https://x.com/ziayusufuk/status/1945462125394084132?s=61

    The Times mentions £50k+ each and possibly thousands of clients.

    We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.

    Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.

    Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.
    On further golden ticket news:

    One Afghan in a family of four will cost taxpayers about £1.25 million over three years if they are put into MoD transitional accommodation, including a hotel.

    It costs half that amount if social housing is found for them instead, according to government figures


    So £200k per year for social housing for a family of four Afghans ???

    Where's this social housing ? Mayfair, Belgravia or South Kensington ?
    Also, what possible MoD transitional housing costs £400,000 plus pounds per.
    I increasingly think that we have two parallel financial systems in this country,

    There's the one I, everyone I know and my employer is in.

    And then there's the one the government is in.
    Two parallel views of economic reality more like.

    One where the government says it hasn't raised taxes on working people despite hugely increasing them on farmers, small business owners, employees, entrepreneurs, etc. etc. And where it says it's a pro-growth government despite snuffing out our fragile economic recovery and drowning businesses in red tape. And where it lies that there was a £22 billion black hole that they didn't know about, even though the figures were published and open for anyone to inspect. And where it pretends that Rachel Reeves, the lightest of lightweights, is up to perhaps the most difficult job in the country.

    And a surprising number of people still buy into their blatant lying gaslighting.
    Except that's all wrong. The taxes have gone up on people inheriting land (not farmers, as not all own the land they farm, particularly in Scotland), large business owners (not small business owners, who in many cases have seen their taxes cut as a result of the increased employment allowance), and there have been no direct tax increases on employees.

    There's no doubt that some of the changes they have made are likely to have a negative effect on employment, as discussed at length on here, but it's a bit rich of you to talk about "blatant lying gaslighting".
    By small you mean micro businesses and even then it isn't 100% true, business rates have gone up significantly, minimum wage, new workers rights, all cost a business. I don't class businesses with 10s of people as "large".
    Isn't the business rates rise exclusively for buildings worth £500k in rent per year? So again, it's hardly small businesses that are getting hit by that.

    I think a progressive system of tax for business is quite a good thing. Will help to make those in the north of England more competitive, fend off some natural monopolies etc etc.
    The UK already has a huge problem with massive imbalance in terms of business sizings compared to the likes of Germany. We have loads and loads of micro businesses and then the giant multi-national corps. The changes have made it much more expensive to be a business that employs 10s or 100s of people. Where say Amazon already use loads of gig economy workers who "self contractors" and are automating away loads of permanent jobs in the warehouses.
    I get that but I don't think you can claim that the budget has particularly hammered small businesses. It's the big employers of minimum wage staff in large buildings (e.g. Tesco, airports etc) that have been whacked the hardest.

    There's obviously room for a much bigger reform which sees the tax burden steadily increase with the size of the business. Whether you do that by property value, employment or profits is the question.
    Or there's room to cut spending and stop putting up taxes. We need £100bn worth of cuts to the government budget and everyone needs to feel the pain.
    Not happening with a Labour government at the mercy of leftwing backbenchers
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,127
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Farage's chances of winning the next election must have substantially increased over the last few days.

    Not on today's Yougov poll, most voters back the super injunction and taking in Afghan refugees
    It’s unlikely, IMHO, that they favour admitting a blackmailer and his relations.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,924
    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    have you considered the alternative interpretation is that you're so fucking dumb you internalise all the guff you read on social media and end up repeating it ad nauseam on here
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,891
    edited July 16
    Taz said:

    kjh said:

    Taz said:

    The country is drowning in debt and the idiot Lib Dem’s want to spend more

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1945507837817303243?s=61

    Hmmm I'm confused
    Sorry, forgetting that all other parties can be criticised but critiquing the Lib Dem’s here is a no no.

    All,good

    Fire up the printer.

    Give people with more than two kids more money

    Heres another 10 billion for the WASPE leeches

    All funded by a wealth tax

    Not economic growth as we don’t want an housebuilding by us, or reservoirs.
    @Taz lol. Think you need to check your link. You have jumped to a conclusion as to why I am confused. Bit defensive there. No issues with you criticizing the LDs. Just you weren't. Suggest you take a look at your link.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,009
    Tres said:

    Leon said:

    X is rife with a theory that the Home Office and other departments are now completely penetrated by Muslim activist workers who, naturally, help to determine UKG policy in a way that favours evermore Muslim migration to the UK. And fair enough if that is what they believe and desire, and they are legally hired

    I have no idea if this is true, However, it would explain some of the utterly inexplicable decisions made by the UKG in recent years. I cannot think of another explanation besides They are all mad, or They are all paid by China

    I am nonetheless open to alternative interpretations, because this one is quite depressing and decidedly ominous

    have you considered the alternative interpretation is that you're so fucking dumb you internalise all the guff you read on social media and end up repeating it ad nauseam on here
    No
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    Trump winning the Sunak voter demographic,

    President Donald Trump says Coca-Cola has agreed to use real cane sugar in its drinks sold in the US.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxe59zl8qzo
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,718
    Busiest UK airports raise kiss-and-fly fees, says RAC
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyg0ly2ld8o

    I remember when they only brought this in for £1 for terrorism or someting...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,714

    Trump winning the Sunak voter demographic,

    President Donald Trump says Coca-Cola has agreed to use real cane sugar in its drinks sold in the US.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxe59zl8qzo

    That's going to be popular in Iowa.
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