For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
Apologies for butting in on the group ignorance, but what do you think the immigrant healthcare surcharge is?
When you live and work in such places, as I have done, you accept that in exchange for the perk of being allowed to be there, you are at the grace of your host. The first sign of the merest rule breaking and you are out. No means to fully support yourself and ditto.
Do nothing wrong whatsoever and remain employed and you still might find yourself turfed out when it comes to renew your work visa. Apply for “settled status” and expect arbitrary and unexplained reasons for denial.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
Apologies for butting in on the group ignorance, but what do you think the immigrant healthcare surcharge is?
Is it a tokenistic policy which wouldn't be required if immigration were actually under control?
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
Why would the Tories cover it up though? Politically what would be in it for them? Yes, if they believed immigration was the unpalatable solution to our economic woes. But Nigel is asserting they didn't believe that and knew all along that immigration was crap. So why bother?
Because the Tories rely on the votes of the old and property owners who are the main beneficiaries of immigration. They couldn't be honest about the link between immigration and house prices.
Oh.. that's a new conspiracy theory. Wish I had come up with that one.
Back to babies and the lack of them / cap on them. Have we consider the two-child limit as part of the Great Replacement Theory?
(Amusingly the header on the page was an ad from Wikipedia asking for funds with the strap line "The internet we were promised" - full of conspiracy theories.)
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
Why would the Tories cover it up though? Politically what would be in it for them? Yes, if they believed immigration was the unpalatable solution to our economic woes. But Nigel is asserting they didn't believe that and knew all along that immigration was crap. So why bother?
Because the Tories rely on the votes of the old and property owners who are the main beneficiaries of immigration. They couldn't be honest about the link between immigration and house prices.
Oh.. that's a new conspiracy theory. Wish I had come up with that one.
It's hardly a conspiracy theory. They were always open about trying to stimulate demand in the housing market and schemes like Help to Buy didn't have any citizenship requirement.
What a sad state of affairs the country is in. All that is going, most read article on BBC News website, has been actor gets driving ban. Its obviously why a big increase in the celeb tittle tattle in recent year or so. How long until a sidebar of shame to take away the Mails traffic.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
Apologies for butting in on the group ignorance, but what do you think the immigrant healthcare surcharge is?
When you live and work in such places, as I have done, you accept that in exchange for the perk of being allowed to be there, you are at the grace of your host. The first sign of the merest rule breaking and you are out. No means to fully support yourself and ditto.
Do nothing wrong whatsoever and remain employed and you still might find yourself turfed out when it comes to renew your work visa. Apply for “settled status” and expect arbitrary and unexplained reasons for denial.
The UK is no different, colleague says that his tenants/wider social circle are no longer getting visas renewed in IT sector. Still new people coming in but companies seem to have moved to turning over migrant workers, prioritising naivety and lower expectations over experience.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
If somebody gets the sack from the BBC for saying a naughty word in a pub 10 years ago, should the head of BBC News be for the chop for such comments?
It's classic BBC senior management, find someone who:s made a minor transgression and crucify them to protect the senior managers who allowed major transgressions. See Savile, Bashir etc etc
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
I read that as "We are both failures".
Yes, politicians are in the business of persuasion, so it's not good enough to say you supported/opposed something if you couldn't win over others to your position.
If somebody gets the sack from the BBC for saying a naughty word in a pub 10 years ago, should the head of BBC News be for the chop for such comments?
It's classic BBC senior management, find someone who:s made a minor transgression and crucify them to protect the senior managers who allowed major transgressions. See Savile, Bashir etc etc
Just to be clear...
It’s the NU10K playbook.
See the shock and horror from senior management in the Post Office at the suggestion they might have any responsibility for the actions they ordered.
"I’m trying to give away a solid Oakwood 6 foot John Lewis bookcase. Almost as new. Worth £300 when I bought it maybe more"
Please send photos and dimensions. I may be interested.
Already gone I am afraid
Only the tumble dryer left
Are you moving out?
No no. just a big refurb. Enjoying it
Want to turn my flat into a kind of decadent fortress against the evil world
Have a bastard of a panic room installed. Fortify the absolute shit out if it I love a good prep
Several Youtube channels devoted to trying out military ration packs. I am interested in the historical side, and a suyrprising number of packs survive from the 1940s-1960s and are still tried out on those films. But it seems that a lot of the business in modern packs is for the prepper market, so Leon might like to know about those and get some ideas just in case the Camden Waitrose closes down.
Prepping in inner London feels like an oxymoron.
It's emotional prepping, I want the sense of a lush, lyrical, gaylordly ponceybooting "cocoon", whence I shall observe the Decline and Fall
"I’m trying to give away a solid Oakwood 6 foot John Lewis bookcase. Almost as new. Worth £300 when I bought it maybe more"
Please send photos and dimensions. I may be interested.
Already gone I am afraid
Only the tumble dryer left
Are you moving out?
No no. just a big refurb. Enjoying it
Want to turn my flat into a kind of decadent fortress against the evil world
Have a bastard of a panic room installed. Fortify the absolute shit out if it I love a good prep
Several Youtube channels devoted to trying out military ration packs. I am interested in the historical side, and a suyrprising number of packs survive from the 1940s-1960s and are still tried out on those films. But it seems that a lot of the business in modern packs is for the prepper market, so Leon might like to know about those and get some ideas just in case the Camden Waitrose closes down.
Prepping in inner London feels like an oxymoron.
It's emotional prepping, I want the sense of a lush, lyrical, gaylordly ponceybooting "cocoon", whence I shall observe the Decline and Fall
Have you considered starting a cult?
What do you think he's been attempting recounting tales of his exploits on here?
"I’m trying to give away a solid Oakwood 6 foot John Lewis bookcase. Almost as new. Worth £300 when I bought it maybe more"
Please send photos and dimensions. I may be interested.
Already gone I am afraid
Only the tumble dryer left
Are you moving out?
No no. just a big refurb. Enjoying it
Want to turn my flat into a kind of decadent fortress against the evil world
Have a bastard of a panic room installed. Fortify the absolute shit out if it I love a good prep
Several Youtube channels devoted to trying out military ration packs. I am interested in the historical side, and a suyrprising number of packs survive from the 1940s-1960s and are still tried out on those films. But it seems that a lot of the business in modern packs is for the prepper market, so Leon might like to know about those and get some ideas just in case the Camden Waitrose closes down.
Prepping in inner London feels like an oxymoron.
It's emotional prepping, I want the sense of a lush, lyrical, gaylordly ponceybooting "cocoon", whence I shall observe the Decline and Fall
The whip is now removed/suspended for more easily than it ever used to be. No Labour MP lost the whip under Blair because of their voting; those few cases that did were for things they'd said or done outside the voting lobbies.
2 *perfectly* timed trades shorting the Dollar and then longing the Dollar *right before* Trump leaked that he was firing Powell, and then TACO'd 30 minutes later.
F1 tracking at about MI:TFR minus 13 mill, which means it *should* scrape over the $500million line worldwide. That's not a lot these days, and with a budget of £300mil and large marketing costs means it might not make a profit. Still it's a success d'estime, so everybody'll be happy with that.
NEW: “They won’t shut the fuck up about it,” Trump privately vented — referring to conservative influencers and media types lashing out over the Epstein memo — according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
What a creepy guy he is.
The superinjunction was Sept 2023, the data breach 2022. Jenrick resigned in Dec 2023
I suppose his defence is one of incompetence and that he didn't know what was going on in his own area of responsibility.
Two people with knowledge of the matter said that a draft of a letter firing Powell was given to the president earlier in the week by William J. Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency @maggieNYT
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
I liked this, but with the proviso that if you want to adopt the Singapore model then that comes with 85% of the population being housed in the Singaporean equivalent of council housing. I’m not sure the system works without state control of the housing market at a deep level. Oh, and top state employees have their pay tied to the top 0.4% of local pay, to attract high quality candidates & eliminate the temptation to take bribes. I can just see the faces of some here if you told them that top civil servants were going to be paid £2million+ per annum.
The blunt acceptance of reality as it was & dealing with that face on has always been something that appealed about Lee Kuan Yew, even if you don’t take on every aspect of his approach to running Singapore.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
What a creepy guy he is.
The worst thing about this scandal from his perspective is that all these pre-Ozempic photos of him posing with Afghan families have reemerged.
Would that be the scheme that he was supervising as immigration minister?
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
He's referring to the ARR specifically.
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
What a creepy guy he is.
The superinjunction was Sept 2023, the data breach 2022. Jenrick resigned in Dec 2023
I suppose his defence is one of incompetence and that he didn't know what was going on in his own area of responsibility.
The ARR was implemented after he resigned. He did not oversee it.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
Apologies for butting in on the group ignorance, but what do you think the immigrant healthcare surcharge is?
When you live and work in such places, as I have done, you accept that in exchange for the perk of being allowed to be there, you are at the grace of your host. The first sign of the merest rule breaking and you are out. No means to fully support yourself and ditto.
Do nothing wrong whatsoever and remain employed and you still might find yourself turfed out when it comes to renew your work visa. Apply for “settled status” and expect arbitrary and unexplained reasons for denial.
The UK is no different, colleague says that his tenants/wider social circle are no longer getting visas renewed in IT sector. Still new people coming in but companies seem to have moved to turning over migrant workers, prioritising naivety and lower expectations over experience.
You know you’re full of shit with this comment, why pretend. The problem has been the same since before 2010 when Dave lied on tv during the debate with his tens of thousands bollocks. We’ve been shit poor at shutting the door and turfing out the worse immigrants. And amazingly efficient at being completely hostile to foreign born spouses of Brits and high value economic migrants.
Thousands of foreign convicted crims laughing at us. I could introduce you to a couple. More than a million foreign nationals on benefits, 700-800k of them unemployed. You don’t have to look too far for that. The incompetence has been so dazzlingly brilliant you could have barely achieved a more catastrophic outcome for our country if you tried.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Is it really!! Goodness! :-)
Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
"I’m trying to give away a solid Oakwood 6 foot John Lewis bookcase. Almost as new. Worth £300 when I bought it maybe more"
Please send photos and dimensions. I may be interested.
Already gone I am afraid
Only the tumble dryer left
Are you moving out?
No no. just a big refurb. Enjoying it
Want to turn my flat into a kind of decadent fortress against the evil world
Have a bastard of a panic room installed. Fortify the absolute shit out if it I love a good prep
Several Youtube channels devoted to trying out military ration packs. I am interested in the historical side, and a suyrprising number of packs survive from the 1940s-1960s and are still tried out on those films. But it seems that a lot of the business in modern packs is for the prepper market, so Leon might like to know about those and get some ideas just in case the Camden Waitrose closes down.
Prepping in inner London feels like an oxymoron.
It's emotional prepping, I want the sense of a lush, lyrical, gaylordly ponceybooting "cocoon", whence I shall observe the Decline and Fall
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
I liked this, but with the proviso that if you want to adopt the Singapore model then that comes with 85% of the population being housed in the Singaporean equivalent of council housing. I’m not sure the system works without state control of the housing market at a deep level. Oh, and top state employees have their pay tied to the top 0.4% of local pay, to attract high quality candidates & eliminate the temptation to take bribes. I can just see the faces of some here if you told them that top civil servants were going to be paid £2million+ per annum.
The blunt acceptance of reality as it was & dealing with that face on has always been something that appealed about Lee Kuan Yew, even if you don’t take on every aspect of his approach to running Singapore.
Living in govt owned housing is not a social faux pas there and much of it is positively aspirational. The proportion is far higher than is desirable or necessary here. But as a rampart free marketeer, it’s fecking obvious to me that we won’t fix the housing shortfall here without direct government intervention. And yes, our civil service and legislature is dross because they’re underpaid so anyone half decent has no interest. But the pay rises first require these departments to be gutted to a shell and started again.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
I am warming to Farage, he acknowledges lawyers are as important as doctors and entrepreneurs.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
I am warming to Farage, he acknowledges lawyers are as important as doctors and entrepreneurs.
I'm surprised to see him namecheck lawyers. What if some of these 'worlds top' ones are lefty human rights types?
There’s what 400 odd Labour MPs? I managed to not speak to my head of department for his entire 18 month tenure… Quite proud of that.
It does seem to be a consistent criticism along with the woman issue (which has been made against the likes of Cameron as well). To be fair he has been away every other week on international business. But when the shit was hitting the fan with the welfare cuts, the reports were Big Ange had to deploy the carrot and stick to sort the mess out as Starmer is detached from these more awkward MPs.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
Apologies for butting in on the group ignorance, but what do you think the immigrant healthcare surcharge is?
When you live and work in such places, as I have done, you accept that in exchange for the perk of being allowed to be there, you are at the grace of your host. The first sign of the merest rule breaking and you are out. No means to fully support yourself and ditto.
Do nothing wrong whatsoever and remain employed and you still might find yourself turfed out when it comes to renew your work visa. Apply for “settled status” and expect arbitrary and unexplained reasons for denial.
The UK is no different, colleague says that his tenants/wider social circle are no longer getting visas renewed in IT sector. Still new people coming in but companies seem to have moved to turning over migrant workers, prioritising naivety and lower expectations over experience.
You know you’re full of shit with this comment, why pretend. The problem has been the same since before 2010 when Dave lied on tv during the debate with his tens of thousands bollocks. We’ve been shit poor at shutting the door and turfing out the worse immigrants. And amazingly efficient at being completely hostile to foreign born spouses of Brits and high value economic migrants.
Thousands of foreign convicted crims laughing at us. I could introduce you to a couple. More than a million foreign nationals on benefits, 700-800k of them unemployed. You don’t have to look too far for that. The incompetence has been so dazzlingly brilliant you could have barely achieved a more catastrophic outcome for our country if you tried.
The whip is now removed/suspended for more easily than it ever used to be. No Labour MP lost the whip under Blair because of their voting; those few cases that did were for things they'd said or done outside the voting lobbies.
The left block were quite small and the vast majority of the party were loyalists. Therefore, Blair could turn a blind eye as it only dented rather than removed his majority
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Is it really!! Goodness! :-)
Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
There will be things to learn from Pore as there is from many places. But you said we should take the template in full. That's plain daft.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
Ah ok, sorry. I genuinely thought it was the opener for a gag. It had that air to it.
If I'd known it was a serious question I'd have passed since I don't have the answer.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
PB’ers who followed various of my financial tips would have done very nicely, thank you. Most recently, selling Tesla, the $ and the Dow, the day Trump started on about Canada.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Is it really!! Goodness! :-)
Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
There will be things to learn from Pore as there is from many places. But you said we should take the template in full. That's plain daft.
There’s vanishingly little in their management of the country that would not also work very well here. Though sometimes it would need a local twist. It was also a hard slog, it took 20-30 years to really embed his vision. Everyone here loses attention when a tv greengrocer goes to work with no pants on.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
Singapore is, of course, a country which deliberately imports lots of low-skilled labor and is also highly regulated.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
No it doesn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
I liked this, but with the proviso that if you want to adopt the Singapore model then that comes with 85% of the population being housed in the Singaporean equivalent of council housing. I’m not sure the system works without state control of the housing market at a deep level. Oh, and top state employees have their pay tied to the top 0.4% of local pay, to attract high quality candidates & eliminate the temptation to take bribes. I can just see the faces of some here if you told them that top civil servants were going to be paid £2million+ per annum.
The blunt acceptance of reality as it was & dealing with that face on has always been something that appealed about Lee Kuan Yew, even if you don’t take on every aspect of his approach to running Singapore.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Its always "Singapore on Thames" isn't it? Never "Singapore on Tyne" or "Singapore on Trent"
I'm not sure what it means tbh. Singapore isn't some Thatcherite ideal. It has much in common with China.
Singapore is, of course, a country which deliberately imports lots of low-skilled labor and is also highly regulated.
On the other hand, they have a criminal justice system which clearly works, public services that clearly work, and, of course, best of all, they have a fabulous natural location.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.
It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?
But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.
It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?
But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
What do we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
Go on then - what *do* we do if a Muslim majority town declares itself a Caliphate?
I haven't heard this one.
I'm pretty sure that the Quran instructs that we convert or pay extra taxes towards Jihad against ourselves
It's pure peace
That's a bit of a clunky punchline.
I really didn't mean to joke. This is the Quran we're talking about. If I've got anything wrong in the gist of of what I'm saying, then I hope a Muslim scholar will correct me
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
You're nearly matching Leon on The Turner Diaries hopecasting.
It's called EXTRAPOLATION
Remember Covid, and quake
I also remember Kari Lake, what.three.words and all your other bad predictions.
Er, I noted Kari Lake when she was utterly unknown to anyone on here. She nearly won the Arizona governership and is now in charge of Voice of America - and eviscerating it
But not even in contention for president, let alone the next one.
Let me know when you predict anything, ever, of any interest, to anyone, at any time, ever
He tipped the Liberals to win the Canadian election at 10/1 when you banging on about a vibeshift for populist right in the Anglosphere.
It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
I exult in my power. Also, I don't live with my Mum
Didn't you once say your Mum/Stepmother tried to stab you?
But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
Nonetheless, there is the salient fact that, as an adult male, I don't live with my Mum
Well I am very happy in my life, you are a sad lonely drunk, I know which life I prefer.
For years, the Tories peddled the myth that all immigration is positive because migrants work and contribute to society. Quite simply, it was a lie and they knew it – yet they covered it up.
The Tories will never be forgiven for what they have done to our country. They have failed on border security, failed on welfare and failed to deliver for working people. They broke Britain and it will take Reform to fix it.
Under a Reform-led government, we will ban all foreign nationals from receiving benefits. If you want to live in this country, you must work, contribute to society and adhere to our culture. We cannot allow foreigners to benefit off the backs of hard-working Britons while the rest of the country suffers.
Reform will introduce an immediate freeze on all immigration: illegal migrants will be deported and legal migration will pause. When it resumes, we will ensure the UK welcomes only the best and brightest – the world’s top doctors, lawyers and entrepreneurs – in small numbers.
So even if a foreign national resident of the UK had worked for years then got sick they would not receive any help at all. Why don’t Reform just go all in and force foreign nationals to wear an identifier so Brits know who the alleged scrounges are ! . And what does adhere to Brit culture mean , are foreigners allowed to celebrate something from their ancestral country or will the culture police be there to round them up for re-education !
Actually, that happens. If you move here legally - from Canada, say - you have to take out insurance against any claim you might make on the NHS. Which doesn't seem unreasonable. I'd be interested how universally applied that is, though.
Fascinating to me why people in the uk think this at all controversial. Go and work in Asia or the Middle East and see what happens to your visa if you say you can’t work anymore because you suddenly realised you have adult ADHD.
In quite a few European countries, various benefits can only be accessed by paying into the system, first. Kinda insurance style.
I am aware that “Singapore on Thames” became a running joke among a certain type after 2016. But honestly Lee Kuan Yew figured out almost every aspect of how to run a modern state years ago. Welfare, healthcare, housing, immigration, religious tolerance, productivity, infrastructure, foreign relations, defence, criminal justice. Some aspects were certainly not everyone’s cup of tea but honestly we should just transpose his book to the governance of the uk and be done with it.
It's a citystate in asia pacific with half the population of London.
Is it really!! Goodness! :-)
Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
There will be things to learn from Pore as there is from many places. But you said we should take the template in full. That's plain daft.
There’s vanishingly little in their management of the country that would not also work very well here. Though sometimes it would need a local twist. It was also a hard slog, it took 20-30 years to really embed his vision. Everyone here loses attention when a tv greengrocer goes to work with no pants on.
I know the place quite well. It's authoritarian. Chock full of social control. I'm surprised that somebody (you) who considered our Covid response to be tantamount to a police state would be gazing longingly at it.
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Do nothing wrong whatsoever and remain employed and you still might find yourself turfed out when it comes to renew your work visa. Apply for “settled status” and expect arbitrary and unexplained reasons for denial.
"There's this 𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳 that we're blaming Labour for a Tory problem... yes the Tories took it out, but Labour maintained it!”
https://x.com/TheNewsAgents/status/1945505961638039571
Its rare to see such self criticism in a politician.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/afghan-relocations-and-assistance-policy/afghan-relocations-and-assistance-policy-information-and-guidance
The Afghan Response Route was agreed and started after I had resigned from the Government over their migration policies. The plan to do this scheme was on the list of things Suella Braverman and I were working together to oppose and change.
This postie hasn't pocketed a penny
Back to babies and the lack of them / cap on them. Have we consider the two-child limit as part of the Great Replacement Theory?
(Amusingly the header on the page was an ad from Wikipedia asking for funds with the strap line "The internet we were promised" - full of conspiracy theories.)
On that bombshell, good-night.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement_conspiracy_theory
See the shock and horror from senior management in the Post Office at the suggestion they might have any responsibility for the actions they ordered.
@philipjcowley.bsky.social
The whip is now removed/suspended for more easily than it ever used to be. No Labour MP lost the whip under Blair because of their voting; those few cases that did were for things they'd said or done outside the voting lobbies.
https://bsky.app/profile/philipjcowley.bsky.social/post/3lu42lszi2c2r
@SpencerHakimian
Well would you look at that.
2 *perfectly* timed trades shorting the Dollar and then longing the Dollar *right before* Trump leaked that he was firing Powell, and then TACO'd 30 minutes later.
https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1945539526698369193
The USA is going to end up as an economic basket case at this rate.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/F1-The-Movie-(2025)/Mission-Impossible-The-Final-Reckoning-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
I haven't heard this one.
Temporary upgrade from the Covenanter
NEW: “They won’t shut the fuck up about it,” Trump privately vented — referring to conservative influencers and media types lashing out over the Epstein memo — according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter.
https://bsky.app/profile/rollingstone.com/post/3lu435yso2c2t
https://x.com/SkyPoliticsHub/status/1945553038657175646
It's pure peace
I suppose his defence is one of incompetence and that he didn't know what was going on in his own area of responsibility.
Two people with knowledge of the matter said that a draft of a letter firing Powell was given to the president earlier in the week by William J. Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency
@maggieNYT
https://x.com/colbyLsmith/status/1945568737723121932
The blunt acceptance of reality as it was & dealing with that face on has always been something that appealed about Lee Kuan Yew, even if you don’t take on every aspect of his approach to running Singapore.
Thousands of foreign convicted crims laughing at us. I could introduce you to a couple. More than a million foreign nationals on benefits, 700-800k of them unemployed. You don’t have to look too far for that. The incompetence has been so dazzlingly brilliant you could have barely achieved a more catastrophic outcome for our country if you tried.
Go and read his book and see what you think. I suggest you know not what you’re talking about if you use this as a reason to say his solutions are of no relevance.
But I'm pretty sure that the Quran says that infidels must be converted, heavily taxed, or killed pbuh
I was hoping for some "Bernard Manning at Batley Variety Club' energy.
Remember Covid, and quake
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/media/kari-lake-voa-trump-voice-of-america-staff
She’s a fruitloop, and it would be Sarah Palin redux
If I'd known it was a serious question I'd have passed since I don't have the answer.
It wasn't Donald Trump who doomed Pierre Poilievre, it was you.
But as I noted the other day, every time I come home there's four people who love me and are happy to see me, whereas you live a sad and lonely life. No wonder you're so angry all the time.
We were told here yesterday that the rescued Afghans now had a 'debt of honour' to the UK.
Looks like they're trying to pay it by grifting even more money.
Being on that email really was the golden ticket for some.