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  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224
    edited July 11
    It is (I am told by Alexa) now 31C here.

    What is happening with temperature profiles through the day, assuming Jeff Bozo is not trying to sell me Factor 48?

    We're going to be the South of France :smile: .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,748
    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    30m
    The unions still have an important role to play in this country. But if they’re going to run around “suspending” Angela Rayner and demanding 29% pay claims they may as well pack up now, because they’re quickly going to become irrelevant.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,982
    Djokovic loses to Sinner in straight sets 6-3, 6-3, 6-4

    Alcaraz v. Sinner in Sunday's final.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,748
    MattW said:

    It is (I am told by Alexa) now 31C here.

    What is happening with temperature profiles through the day, assuming Jeff Bozo is not trying to sell me Factor 48?

    We're going to be the South of France :smile: .

    30c in the shade in my garden an hour ago.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,748
    Had three conversations today which included discussion of whether it was time to get air con.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,982

    MattW said:

    It is (I am told by Alexa) now 31C here.

    What is happening with temperature profiles through the day, assuming Jeff Bozo is not trying to sell me Factor 48?

    We're going to be the South of France :smile: .

    30c in the shade in my garden an hour ago.

    27.3 in my east-facing living room right now.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,314
    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173
    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,748

    Djokovic loses to Sinner in straight sets 6-3, 6-3, 6-4

    Alcaraz v. Sinner in Sunday's final.

    Yah!!!!
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,611
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    FF43 said:

    What problem are judge-only trials addressing?

    Is it eg a lack of jurors? Judge trials are quicker because you don't need to get lay people up to speed? Judge trials are less likely to collapse and so need to be run again? Or something else?

    Read the report - link posted above.

    There's actually an awful lot more in it than this proposal (which is actually outside the official scope of his brief).
    A lot of nuts and bolts procedural stuff which would speed up the existing somewhat haphazard system.

    This just happens to be the most newsworthy.
    Heh. The UK's 7 second attention span media strikes again.
    It really does. For example, most of the London press have confined their foreign coverage to snide and rude comments about Macron this week, with no coverage at all of potentially critical changes in China.

    I think they are too dumb to even dumb down.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,881
    Evening all :)

    Another very warm day in London Town but out east a nice breeze has set up from the Estuary as it often does which has taken the top off the temperature. This will probably be our warmest day for the next week and possibly longer (but I could be wrong).

    I see Kent County Council's new Reform administration have identified £40 million of savings - well, it's a start I suppose but Kent was planning to spend £2.6 billion this financial year (2025/26) so a drop in the ocean to be honest. Needless to say, this was a verbal report to Council so details not forthcoming.

    I suspect the new Reform majorities on other county councils will discover the pot of potential savings is much smaller than they had suspected or hoped.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224

    MattW said:

    It is (I am told by Alexa) now 31C here.

    What is happening with temperature profiles through the day, assuming Jeff Bozo is not trying to sell me Factor 48?

    We're going to be the South of France :smile: .

    30c in the shade in my garden an hour ago.

    No idea. I'm staying inside for another couple of hours. 23C in here with the solar driving the air to air heat pump in cooling mode
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,869

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Those dying are the sick and the old.

    Better to save the money for extra heating in winter.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,617
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    It is (I am told by Alexa) now 31C here.

    What is happening with temperature profiles through the day, assuming Jeff Bozo is not trying to sell me Factor 48?

    We're going to be the South of France :smile: .

    30c in the shade in my garden an hour ago.

    No idea. I'm staying inside for another couple of hours. 23C in here with the solar driving the air to air heat pump in cooling mode
    I have made the strategic move to Spoons for the air con. Only for an hour or so until the Friday night crowd get here.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,617

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Those dying are the sick and the old.

    Better to save the money for extra heating in winter.
    Temperature-assisted dying.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Those dying are the sick and the old.

    Better to save the money for extra heating in winter.
    Better not to have climate austerity policies that restrict people’s use of energy, both in winter and summer.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 11,231

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Those dying are the sick and the old.

    Better to save the money for extra heating in winter.
    I have a vague recollection that more older people die due to overheating now - or maybe that's a climate change projection for the next decade?

    Hence the pensioner "Summer Aircon Payment". You heard it here first.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,177
    Pulpstar said:

    Can't remember a more enthralling day's test cricket.

    Such a low bar, though,
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,177
    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,755
    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Can't remember a more enthralling day's test cricket.

    Such a low bar, though,
    There have been lots of great days of test cricket - so recently as England's tour to Pakistan for example. Or even the World Test Final just a month ago.

    What seems to me so great about this is that we're seeing two top-form sides battle, and we're seeing it over five tests. Now that has been quite rare.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,102
    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    I was in Paris in the heatwave summer of 2003. The hotel was stifling even with closed curtains.

    Worst was queuing in the glass pyramid at the Louvre.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,141
    I am now too old for jury service and was only once required to do it in the 60 years since I became eligible, but just yesterday my 19 year old granddaughter was called up for it
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,695
    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,141
    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    I was in Paris in the heatwave summer of 2003. The hotel was stifling even with closed curtains.

    Worst was queuing in the glass pyramid at the Louvre.
    We were there in 1976. Which was worse?

  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224
    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    Pergolas are probably more in keeping with British propensities, perhaps.

    What it really needs are motorised external shutters, but they really need to be built in at the start; my sister and her hubby have had these in when they did a fat-at-the-back extension in ~1995, on dad's advice.

    A good system that can be retrofitted are skylights for overnight stack ventilation, to be shut and keep the coolth in from say 6am.

    My place's main issue is heat soak to upstairs during the day from the outside, as the decrement delay is too short. If it stays warm overnight, it causes trouble even with stack or cross-ventilation set up.

    Here's a thread from Buildhub recently where a chap had designed and got planning before he thought it through, so at least his extra costs would only be paperwork rather than retrofit. We ran through most of the options.
    https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/28048-use-of-portable-air-conditioners-heat-pumps/

    And a Charlie Luxton video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFZbm-1fH8

    And the BH thread when I was thinking about this in 2022.
    https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/28048-use-of-portable-air-conditioners-heat-pumps/
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,039
    Omnium said:

    IanB2 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Can't remember a more enthralling day's test cricket.

    Such a low bar, though,
    There have been lots of great days of test cricket - so recently as England's tour to Pakistan for example. Or even the World Test Final just a month ago.

    What seems to me so great about this is that we're seeing two top-form sides battle, and we're seeing it over five tests. Now that has been quite rare.
    There aren't many test nations, let alone good test nations.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Is it ?

    I thought the proposal was to allow defendants to opt for judge led trials, rather than dispensing with juries ?
    It's a system which appears to operate without dramatic problems, elsewhere.

    What do you make of the rest of his (numerous) proposals ?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,687

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    30m
    The unions still have an important role to play in this country. But if they’re going to run around “suspending” Angela Rayner and demanding 29% pay claims they may as well pack up now, because they’re quickly going to become irrelevant.

    Union intransigence is going to directly lead to a government that will further curb their power and restructure the public sector in a way that will be really bad for their members.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224
    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Really interesting piece. Thanks - and I hope you are getting more rain for your fruit than the rest of us.

    I'm fascinated in the utter unprincipled shamelessness of the current Conservative Party.

    First we have Jenrick demanding that the world is about to end because the Labour Govt is introducing the Sentencing Guidelines around Reports that he did not say anything about when he was the minister in the Govt that formulated them.

    Now we have this.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,177
    Go Italy!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,223
    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224
    edited July 11
    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
  • Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    edited July 11
    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Reading the report again, it's a discussion outwith the formal scope of the review.
    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/review-of-efficiency-in-criminal-proceedings-20151.pdf

    He's not recommending that juries be dispensed with; rather that the issue of judge led trials be revisited (though he's clearly quite keen on the idea).
    I think he's reasonably fair in setting out the arguments on both sides, and would be interested if that is, or isn't how you see it.
    (Edit ... if you have the time; it's quite a long read.)

    What do you make of his formal recommendations on changes to the appeals procedure from magistrates courts ?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,585
    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    And if we continue to add solar, the peak in generation will match the peak in demand.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    Yes, Homan is one of the leading thugs.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,585
    Nigelb said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    And if we continue to add solar, the peak in generation will match the peak in demand.
    Now if only there was something that could harness the power of cold and wet days we'd be golden.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173
    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,585

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Sadly there probably was joined up thinking specifically to prevent people installing AC, which is seen as a a luxury and a crime against the climate.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    So exactly what do you think he means by that, william ?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Yup. Nothing to do with looking a bit suntanned. Offfffff coooooourse.

    You use these special sunglasses to spot the baduns - see this documentary - https://youtu.be/Wp_K8prLfso?si=075lVxNuH301tppv
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,141
    geoffw said:

    I am now too old for jury service and was only once required to do it in the 60 years since I became eligible, but just yesterday my 19 year old granddaughter was called up for it

    I've had a long retirement and would have liked to have been called up. Several times even. No problem. But I haven't had a sniff.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,618
    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Yup. Nothing to do with looking a bit suntanned. Offfffff coooooourse.

    You use these special sunglasses to spot the baduns - see this documentary - https://youtu.be/Wp_K8prLfso?si=075lVxNuH301tppv
    Just what was it about those kids playing baseball ?
    I'm sure william has a theory.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,173
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    So exactly what do you think he means by that, william ?
    They could be wearing national dress in a way that arouses suspicion. For example a bowler hat might lead an ICE officer to think they are dealing with an Englishman who might have overstayed their visa.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Sadly there probably was joined up thinking specifically to prevent people installing AC, which is seen as a a luxury and a crime against the climate.
    Installing modern A/C (which can reverse and heat in winter) is zero VAT rated. I did this.

    https://aacairconditioning.co.uk/blog/0-vat-on-all-domestic-air-conditioning-and-air-source-heat-pumps/
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    I installed such as system (Daikan). Purchase and installation was VAT rated at zero.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,917

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    being paid on a piece rate tonight are we?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    So exactly what do you think he means by that, william ?
    They could be wearing national dress in a way that arouses suspicion. For example a bowler hat might lead an ICE officer to think they are dealing with an Englishman who might have overstayed their visa.
    Hilarious, william.
    You should do standup.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964
    Who is going to be the first politician to demand a summer air conditioning allowance?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    So exactly what do you think he means by that, william ?
    They could be wearing national dress in a way that arouses suspicion. For example a bowler hat might lead an ICE officer to think they are dealing with an Englishman who might have overstayed their visa.
    The other tell tale signs are a tightly rolled umbrella and a three piece quiet pinstripe suit, with immaculate polished shoes.

    On the beach in Florida. In July
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,618
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Ed's on the case.

    Air con for your home could become part of £7.5k heat-pump grant
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/air-con-for-your-home-could-become-part-of-7-5k-heat-pump-grant-3799614
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580

    Who is going to be the first politician to demand a summer air conditioning allowance?

    Rishi Sunak introduced a zero VAT rate on purchase and installation.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964

    Who is going to be the first politician to demand a summer air conditioning allowance?

    Rishi Sunak introduced a zero VAT rate on purchase and installation.
    And look what happened to him.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    So exactly what do you think he means by that, william ?
    They could be wearing national dress in a way that arouses suspicion. For example a bowler hat might lead an ICE officer to think they are dealing with an Englishman who might have overstayed their visa.
    I found a picture of the kids in question -



    A very dodgy crew, indeed
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,039

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    I installed such as system (Daikan). Purchase and installation was VAT rated at zero.
    Given your profile photo, you seem to be most in need of aircon.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,585

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    I installed such as system (Daikan). Purchase and installation was VAT rated at zero.
    Given your profile photo, you seem to be most in need of aircon.
    Their profile pic? That's just them doing a spot of gardening.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,617
    Scott_xP said:
    Hugely different:

    Estimated illegal immigrants in California: 2m out of 40m

    Estimated illegal immigrants in UK: 1m out of 70m

    Not to mention that they have birthright citizenship, so many of the children swelling those class sizes aren't counted in the 2m.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,046
    kinabalu said:

    geoffw said:

    I am now too old for jury service and was only once required to do it in the 60 years since I became eligible, but just yesterday my 19 year old granddaughter was called up for it

    I've had a long retirement and would have liked to have been called up. Several times even. No problem. But I haven't had a sniff.
    I was called for it five times in one year. I suspect because I was one of the foolish people who responded to their letter. Eventually had to contact my MP to try and get them to stop harassing me (which worked - all praise to my MP).
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,046

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Are you trying to out HY HY?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    edited July 11
    .
    Cyclefree said:

    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Reading the report again, it's a discussion outwith the formal scope of the review.
    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/review-of-efficiency-in-criminal-proceedings-20151.pdf

    He's not recommending that juries be dispensed with; rather that the issue of judge led trials be revisited (though he's clearly quite keen on the idea).
    I think he's reasonably fair in setting out the arguments on both sides, and would be interested if that is, or isn't how you see it.
    (Edit ... if you have the time; it's quite a long read.)

    What do you make of his formal recommendations on changes to the appeals procedure from magistrates courts ?
    I don't have the time this evening.

    Judges and politicians are always desperate to get rid of juries and they always try to find ways of justifying this. These attempts have been going on my entire professional life and I view them as yet another example of the rulers displaying their disregard for and contempt for ordinary people and the role they ought to play in a well ordered society. See the last paragraph of my header the other day.

    The fundamental problem with our criminal justice system is its persistent under-funding over decades, an absolute failure by the state to take seriously one of its core duties.

    Also while I have worked professionally with Leveson and he is a nice thoughtful man, he has a tendency to come up with complicated proposals which seem to me to cause at least as many problems as they solve. See his suggestions on newspapers. He is a bit too pro-establishment de haut en bas for my tastes, which is probably why he is the go-to judge for such matters.

    Anyway will revert in more detail another time. Am a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
    Last thing I want to do is to add to your workload.
    It's just that some of his (long) list of recommendations seem quite sensible.

    Apart from anything else, the current system, when it (sometimes) takes five years to settle a case, isn't providing justice.

    A winnowing of his ideas, to sort the wheat from the chaff, might be a valuable undertaking.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,046

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    I keep hearing stories of how this is playing out, and keep having images of Dim from Clockwork Orange in my head.

    image
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    ohnotnow said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    I keep hearing stories of how this is playing out, and keep having images of Dim from Clockwork Orange in my head.

    image
    He's not wearing a mask.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,046

    Who is going to be the first politician to demand a summer air conditioning allowance?

    Rishi Sunak introduced a zero VAT rate on purchase and installation.
    And look what happened to him.
    Two very cushy jobs, a beautiful and wealthy wife, (seemingly) lovely children, a place in the history books on multiple points?

    He must be weeping to sleep every evening.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,472
    Joe Root's catch to become the top non-WK catcher in Test history was one of the best

    He's a phenomenonally good cricketer

    https://x.com/englandcricket/status/1943698329948278933
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,869

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    The Soviet purges created a people even more brutal and subservient to the great leader.

    Plus lots of slave labour.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,276

    Horrible weather for work today, I think it got up to 32⁰C with a "real feel" of 35

    Luckily I had a quite light day's work so only had to walk about nine miles. And between noon and half one, when I was in Ogbourne St George and had some of my most exposed and longer walks, the sun was somehow hiding behind two tiny clouds

    Spare a thought for your posties when it's this hot

    They’re not just for Christmas.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,869

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    The Soviet purges created a people even more brutal and subservient to the great leader.

    Plus lots of slave labour.
    Of course if the Dems want to have any purges they could first purge themselves of all those who participated in the big lie that Senile Joe was capable of being President for another four years or perhaps all those who supported unrestricted illegal immigration.

    The problem being that there would be very few Dem politicians left in DC if they did so.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,223

    Of course if the Dems want to have any purges they could first purge themselves of all those who participated in the big lie that Senile Joe was capable of being President for another four years

    Biden remains more capable than Trump
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    There are a lot of other things going on, such as deputising bounty hunters.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,472
    edited July 11
    Do we know how far into her one and a half million homes target Ange has made it in the first year?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,685

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Seems like an efficient way of culling the weak.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,719

    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

    Don't know about you, but I'm beginning to sense something a bit "off" with the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. Can't quite put my finger on it, but hmm
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,701
    geoffw said:

    Foxy said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    I was in Paris in the heatwave summer of 2003. The hotel was stifling even with closed curtains.

    Worst was queuing in the glass pyramid at the Louvre.
    We were there in 1976. Which was worse?

    1976 and 2003 weren’t even close.

    2003 was the hottest summer in Europe since records began, by a huge margin (it’s since been overtaken). 1976 was hot and dry in Paris but nothing particularly unusual, unlike in Britain.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Sadly there probably was joined up thinking specifically to prevent people installing AC, which is seen as a a luxury and a crime against the climate.
    Installing modern A/C (which can reverse and heat in winter) is zero VAT rated. I did this.

    https://aacairconditioning.co.uk/blog/0-vat-on-all-domestic-air-conditioning-and-air-source-heat-pumps/
    That's interesting - I did not know that detail.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,580
    Nigelb said:

    .

    Cyclefree said:

    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Reading the report again, it's a discussion outwith the formal scope of the review.
    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/review-of-efficiency-in-criminal-proceedings-20151.pdf

    He's not recommending that juries be dispensed with; rather that the issue of judge led trials be revisited (though he's clearly quite keen on the idea).
    I think he's reasonably fair in setting out the arguments on both sides, and would be interested if that is, or isn't how you see it.
    (Edit ... if you have the time; it's quite a long read.)

    What do you make of his formal recommendations on changes to the appeals procedure from magistrates courts ?
    I don't have the time this evening.

    Judges and politicians are always desperate to get rid of juries and they always try to find ways of justifying this. These attempts have been going on my entire professional life and I view them as yet another example of the rulers displaying their disregard for and contempt for ordinary people and the role they ought to play in a well ordered society. See the last paragraph of my header the other day.

    The fundamental problem with our criminal justice system is its persistent under-funding over decades, an absolute failure by the state to take seriously one of its core duties.

    Also while I have worked professionally with Leveson and he is a nice thoughtful man, he has a tendency to come up with complicated proposals which seem to me to cause at least as many problems as they solve. See his suggestions on newspapers. He is a bit too pro-establishment de haut en bas for my tastes, which is probably why he is the go-to judge for such matters.

    Anyway will revert in more detail another time. Am a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
    Last thing I want to do is to add to your workload.
    It's just that some of his (long) list of recommendations seem quite sensible.

    Apart from anything else, the current system, when it (sometimes) takes five years to settle a case, isn't providing justice.

    A winnowing of his ideas, to sort the wheat from the chaff, might be a valuable undertaking.
    The “get rid of juries” and “get rid of magistrates” are hardy annuals. They keep showing up, despite intensive weeding.

    The suspicion is that since the juries would be replaced by multiple judges and the magistrates by more judges, it’s about creating jobs for lawyers.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,223
    Leon said:

    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

    Don't know about you, but I'm beginning to sense something a bit "off" with the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. Can't quite put my finger on it, but hmm
    There was no list

    He committed suicide because he was about to be released due to lack of evidence of crimes that never happened
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,685

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Indeed: they are looking at ummm... differences in physical appearance that do not in any way include anything that could be a proxy for race. Like. Ummm. Nasal piercings?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,617
    Air india preliminary report is out. When the BBC digests it, details will be here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx20p2x9093t
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    The Soviet purges created a people even more brutal and subservient to the great leader.

    Plus lots of slave labour.
    Of course if the Dems want to have any purges they could first purge themselves of all those who participated in the big lie that Senile Joe was capable of being President for another four years or perhaps all those who supported unrestricted illegal immigration.

    The problem being that there would be very few Dem politicians left in DC if they did so.
    You might not have noticed, but they didn't run Biden for a second term.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,701
    edited July 11
    rcs1000 said:

    https://x.com/AlecStapp/status/1943723803181277562

    We need a new Marshall Plan for shipping air conditioning units to Europe

    image

    Seems like an efficient way of culling the weak.
    There’s a reasonable point about air conditioning, but:

    - nobody’s stopping Europeans getting a/c, in fact it’s often subsidised
    - lobbying to promote a/c and also promote the things causing the need for a/c is akin to tobacco companies lobbying for cancer treatment
    - They don’t actually care. It’s an alt right meme to blame someone else for climate change

    Still, at least we’ve moved on from the denial into the bargaining stage.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,223
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Indeed: they are looking at ummm... differences in physical appearance that do not in any way include anything that could be a proxy for race. Like. Ummm. Nasal piercings?
    Letraset, sorry, I mean tattoos on knuckles
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175
    Leon said:

    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

    Don't know about you, but I'm beginning to sense something a bit "off" with the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. Can't quite put my finger on it, but hmm
    Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?
    https://x.com/AOC/status/1943736675877658637

  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Ed's on the case.

    Air con for your home could become part of £7.5k heat-pump grant
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/air-con-for-your-home-could-become-part-of-7-5k-heat-pump-grant-3799614
    In some respects it already is - it was a strange regulation years ago that prevented it being applied to heat pumps that could also cool by running the other way.

    It was something to do with the trad aircon systems not being permitted development for the external unit, and wanting to keep a clear division between the Heat Pump scheme and aircon, which is fair enough and what the Cons are currently trying to make a political issue. Given their characteristic style they were probably the ones that introduced it (I'm not going to look it up).

    It's normally just been a modest hack to switch the cooling side back on if you choose an appropriate unit.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,076

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    They are boasting about racial profiling

    https://bsky.app/profile/samyoungman.bsky.social/post/3ltozelhv7s2c
    That's a lie. He says "physical appearance".
    Don't be stupid, William.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,175

    Nigelb said:

    .

    Cyclefree said:

    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    It's a stupid proposal by Leveson.

    For the reasons set out here the last time something similar was suggested - https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/06/24/12-good-men/

    Reading the report again, it's a discussion outwith the formal scope of the review.
    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/review-of-efficiency-in-criminal-proceedings-20151.pdf

    He's not recommending that juries be dispensed with; rather that the issue of judge led trials be revisited (though he's clearly quite keen on the idea).
    I think he's reasonably fair in setting out the arguments on both sides, and would be interested if that is, or isn't how you see it.
    (Edit ... if you have the time; it's quite a long read.)

    What do you make of his formal recommendations on changes to the appeals procedure from magistrates courts ?
    I don't have the time this evening.

    Judges and politicians are always desperate to get rid of juries and they always try to find ways of justifying this. These attempts have been going on my entire professional life and I view them as yet another example of the rulers displaying their disregard for and contempt for ordinary people and the role they ought to play in a well ordered society. See the last paragraph of my header the other day.

    The fundamental problem with our criminal justice system is its persistent under-funding over decades, an absolute failure by the state to take seriously one of its core duties.

    Also while I have worked professionally with Leveson and he is a nice thoughtful man, he has a tendency to come up with complicated proposals which seem to me to cause at least as many problems as they solve. See his suggestions on newspapers. He is a bit too pro-establishment de haut en bas for my tastes, which is probably why he is the go-to judge for such matters.

    Anyway will revert in more detail another time. Am a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
    Last thing I want to do is to add to your workload.
    It's just that some of his (long) list of recommendations seem quite sensible.

    Apart from anything else, the current system, when it (sometimes) takes five years to settle a case, isn't providing justice.

    A winnowing of his ideas, to sort the wheat from the chaff, might be a valuable undertaking.
    The “get rid of juries” and “get rid of magistrates” are hardy annuals. They keep showing up, despite intensive weeding.

    The suspicion is that since the juries would be replaced by multiple judges and the magistrates by more judges, it’s about creating jobs for lawyers.
    Have you actually read the report ?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,869
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    ICE are a bunch of thugs mandated to ignore constitutional protections.

    ICE interrogate kids at youth baseball practice—threatens to arrest coach when he defends them.

    Every kid on team is U.S. citizen.

    "Agent said if kids are here legally, what do they have to lose," coach explained.

    "I told them they still have their 5th & 4th Amendment rights."

    Youman Wilder has not only coached baseball on Manhattan's West Side for 20 years—he also has a law degree.

    He has since changed the practice schedule as a precaution to make kids feel safe—but all except 2 players have still been too afraid to come back out to the batting cages...

    https://x.com/LongTimeHistory/status/1943693085088555038

    No prizes for guessing that racial profiling was involved.

    It astounds me how many utter thugs must have been hiding in the ranks of ICE, only held back by fear of getting punished. They didn't get this way overnight. If you're prepared to interrogate kids, snatch mothers from their children and kidnap people off the street, you were always like that.

    If the dems get back control before Trump turns the US in to a dictatorship, there are going to have to be soviet-scale purges of law enforcement at all levels.
    The Soviet purges created a people even more brutal and subservient to the great leader.

    Plus lots of slave labour.
    Of course if the Dems want to have any purges they could first purge themselves of all those who participated in the big lie that Senile Joe was capable of being President for another four years or perhaps all those who supported unrestricted illegal immigration.

    The problem being that there would be very few Dem politicians left in DC if they did so.
    You might not have noticed, but they didn't run Biden for a second term.
    You might not have noticed but they did.

    Which is why Biden was in the Presidential Debate.

    That he had to be replaced as candidate merely exposed the big lie the Dems had spread.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,748
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

    Don't know about you, but I'm beginning to sense something a bit "off" with the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. Can't quite put my finger on it, but hmm
    Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?
    https://x.com/AOC/status/1943736675877658637

    Bongino may resign over the issue.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,224
    edited July 11

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    IanB2 said:

    CatMan said:

    Think we need to install shutters on windows, like the French.

    The biggest difference between Brits when it’s sunny, and all of our southern neighbours, remains that we rush to fling the windows open and they rush to close them, and draw the curtains.
    The sensible amongst us do not do that :wink: .

    I'm interested that the latest RExxxx *, which is apparently a Conservative Think Tank, are maundering on about air conditioning, as part of their performative "using less energy is not something we should be concerned about" shtick. They are still trying to out-Nigel, Nigel, without noticing that back in 2021 his party were saying they were serious about tackling Net Zero, and he will turn his coat like the flim-flam man he is when necessary - and the Tories do not have that skill.

    https://x.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1943660950118175110

    * Britain Remade.
    One of the benefits of getting a heat pump is it can be reversed to make an air conditioner. If we are going to transition away from burning gas for heating, we're going to need the extra electricity supply anyway. Why not make it more comfortable in the summer?
    The type of heat pumps which receive subsidies in the UK can't be used for air conditioning.
    No surprise there's no joined-up thinking on things like this.
    Ed's on the case.

    Air con for your home could become part of £7.5k heat-pump grant
    https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/air-con-for-your-home-could-become-part-of-7-5k-heat-pump-grant-3799614
    Reflecting, I think one biggie will be when Octopus start installing reversible heat pumps as part of their low price scheme - which for many comes nearly within the Govt grant.

    In 2024 they installed 60k heat pumps reportedly.

    Temperature back down to 24C, 14C expected overnight, so a good chance to cool it down. Time for the evening constitutional.

    28C expected for Sat. 26C expected on Sun.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,701
    edited July 11
    Let’s do Paris 1976 vs some recent summers:

    Year Average Summer Temp (°C) Rank
    1976 21.0°C Not top 5
    2003 23.0°C #1
    2018 22.1°C #3
    2022 22.7°C #2
    2023 22.5°C #4
    2006 21.2°C #6

    The 2020s average is ~21.5–22.0°C, Significantly warmer than 1976

    Days ≥35°C in Paris:

    1976: 5
    2003: 9
    2019: 14
    2022: 13
    2023: 11

    And nights? Tropical nights (≥20°C minimum temp):

    1976: 3
    2003: 10+
    2018, 2019, 2022: 10–15 per summer

    One of the shocking things about the 2003 extreme heat is that it’s been outdone on many counts several times since. 2003 is in danger of becoming a new 1976.

    And it will keep getting hotter, until we’re all dead.

    So yes, a/c is increasingly important, but let’s not forget why it’s increasingly important.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,223

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified

    There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.

    https://www.wired.com/story/metadata-shows-the-dojs-raw-jeffrey-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-modified/

    Don't know about you, but I'm beginning to sense something a bit "off" with the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. Can't quite put my finger on it, but hmm
    Wow who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein Files?
    https://x.com/AOC/status/1943736675877658637

    Bongino may resign over the issue.
    Big whoop
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