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  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,296
    edited June 26
    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,234
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    Is it just an 'image' or is there some reality behind it? I'm referring to the 'dangerous and hostile' bit.
    The UK is the rape capital of the western world

    "Rape offences have increased dramatically in England and Wales since 2012/13 when there were 16,038 offences. After this year, rape offences increased substantially, reaching a high of 69,973 offences in the 2021/22 reporting year, before falling slightly to 68,949 in 2022/23, and to 67,928 in 2023/24. When 2023/24 is compared with the 2002/03 reporting year, there was an almost sixfold increase in the number of rape offences recorded by the police in England and Wales. "

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    I'm trying to think of a reason why. Perhaps you can
    Have they switched to telephone assessment?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,430
    eek said:

    carnforth said:

    viewcode said:

    carnforth said:

    Fun fact I learned today from HMRC: from 2027 small LTD companies will have to file public profit and loss. So everyone can find out how much (or how little, in my case) I earn.

    Going to be hard for small or new companies to bid for projects now - they'll be ruled out based on financial fragility.

    Is this a pointless change by Starmer or a pointless change by HMRC?
    Previous government and/or HMRC. Alledgedly to prevent money laundering.
    It wasn't exactly difficult to work out what was going on by looking at changes in balance sheets.
    I run a single person limited. I take all available money in dividends. My balance sheet tells you nothing, whether I earn £10000 or £500000.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,234
    It is quite notable that some of the same people who bemoaned the effects of lockdown on children's mental health now won't believe the number of young people who report poor mental health.
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 373

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    I expect they will have to use a similar methodology when it comes to changing Civil Service and Local Authority defined benefit pensions. Those who've got 'em keep 'em, and those who come later have to take the new terms.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,841

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    Isn't it just going to cause a massive tsunami of applications?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,659
    Do we think that Keir or any cabinet member (s) will resign over this shambles?

    Maybe??
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,916
    If someone’s claim is grandfathered and subsequently gets reassessed multiple times, do they stay on the grandfathered scale or get moved to the new one?
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,781

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    Seems a poor change . Either the conditions are acceptable or they are not. Any MPs rebelling for principles should also vote down the amendment.

    It seems terribly unfair to inflict this on the next generation of disabled people. At a certain point we might as well consider the welfare state on an age ratchet. To those born after the cut off little and to those before everything.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,770
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
    In my part of London, there are any number of Police posters warning about "gadget grab" so it's not just phones though I suspect that's the bulk of it.

    I've lived in London most of my life (so far) and you have to be a little "street savvy" especially with money and phones. It's less that you are actually targeted from a distance and more the opportunistic thief who takes advantage of a second of vulnerability. I find it hard to believe such theft doesn't happen in other cities so I'll assume it does.

    It would be nice if it didn't but we all know petty crime of that nature is as old as the hills and if you want to romanticise it as the Artful Dodger stealing a fob watch from a gent or stealing money for drink as Hogarth demonstrated the net effect is the same.

    I suspect like people complaining about the Government of the day it will always be a part of us.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,394
    carnforth said:

    eek said:

    carnforth said:

    viewcode said:

    carnforth said:

    Fun fact I learned today from HMRC: from 2027 small LTD companies will have to file public profit and loss. So everyone can find out how much (or how little, in my case) I earn.

    Going to be hard for small or new companies to bid for projects now - they'll be ruled out based on financial fragility.

    Is this a pointless change by Starmer or a pointless change by HMRC?
    Previous government and/or HMRC. Alledgedly to prevent money laundering.
    It wasn't exactly difficult to work out what was going on by looking at changes in balance sheets.
    I run a single person limited. I take all available money in dividends. My balance sheet tells you nothing, whether I earn £10000 or £500000.
    When do you pay your corporation tax? You can read a lot in to your current liabilities..
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,770

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    I expect they will have to use a similar methodology when it comes to changing Civil Service and Local Authority defined benefit pensions. Those who've got 'em keep 'em, and those who come later have to take the new terms.
    This has already happened twice with local Government pensions - in both 2008 and 2014 "reforms" were brought in which essentially meant staff (and employers) contributed more and got less in final benefits. Senior staff in particular saw a sharp rise in their contributions but all LPGS members were affected.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,241
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
    The extent to which people are transfixed to their phone is one of the biggest changes I hve noticed in Britain in the last five years. Get on a tube - the person not looking at their mobile is the weird exception. (He's probably the bomber.)

    Mothers looking at their phone rather than their baby is causing profound changes in the development of children. We maybe won't know how profound for years, but young children are losing the cues from their mother on how to behave.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,296
    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    Is it just an 'image' or is there some reality behind it? I'm referring to the 'dangerous and hostile' bit.
    The UK is the rape capital of the western world

    "Rape offences have increased dramatically in England and Wales since 2012/13 when there were 16,038 offences. After this year, rape offences increased substantially, reaching a high of 69,973 offences in the 2021/22 reporting year, before falling slightly to 68,949 in 2022/23, and to 67,928 in 2023/24. When 2023/24 is compared with the 2002/03 reporting year, there was an almost sixfold increase in the number of rape offences recorded by the police in England and Wales. "

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    I'm trying to think of a reason why. Perhaps you can
    Have they switched to telephone assessment?
    So... a six fold increase in reported rapes, in 20 years, is...... funny?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,297
    dixiedean said:

    It is quite notable that some of the same people who bemoaned the effects of lockdown on children's mental health now won't believe the number of young people who report poor mental health.

    I saw bits earlier on here and the link suggests the one in four includes anxiety. Now I’m sure some people hav3 crippling anxiety, but is there a danger of a survey question ‘do you sometimes feel anxious?’ becomes a mental health crisis?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,617
    edited June 26

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    Seems a poor change . Either the conditions are acceptable or they are not. Any MPs rebelling for principles should also vote down the amendment.

    It seems terribly unfair to inflict this on the next generation of disabled people. At a certain point we might as well consider the welfare state on an age ratchet. To those born after the cut off little and to those before everything.
    It’s going to be funny watching him justify it. I assume it will be that he always believed in retaining it for some people, and there’s been some mythical growth which allows it just like WFA
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,916

    dixiedean said:

    It is quite notable that some of the same people who bemoaned the effects of lockdown on children's mental health now won't believe the number of young people who report poor mental health.

    I saw bits earlier on here and the link suggests the one in four includes anxiety. Now I’m sure some people hav3 crippling anxiety, but is there a danger of a survey question ‘do you sometimes feel anxious?’ becomes a mental health crisis?
    And linking an income stream to someone's state of anxiety seems counterproductive. If nothing else it gives them something to be anxious about.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496
    Reeves is finished.

  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,770

    Reeves is finished.

    Isn't this more on Starmer? And Leicester Liz?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,916
    tlg86 said:

    Reeves is finished.

    Isn't this more on Starmer? And Leicester Liz?
    It's amazing to think that Liz Kendall once had leadership ambitions.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,162

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496
    How many hours will Two Tier PIP last?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,705

    Reeves is finished.

    That seems reasonably likely.

    It's not so much the U turn, as the evidence that the details of the policy had barely been considered, and fell apart on scrutiny.

    The specifics of the U turn won't be announced until tomorrow, so it's quite possible the same thing happens all over again.

    And it still leaves the unresolved problem of a welfare budget rising at a far more rapid rate than revenue to pay for it - whether from tax rises or growth.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,617
    edited June 26

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    Resignation watch? I mean it can’t be fun to know you’ve got the next 3 months to stew over your tax raising (again) budget in the autumn, which will make you even more unpopular and probably a scapegoat for a sacking after the May elections next year.

    Keir Starmer is not known for his loyalty.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,293

    What I want to know is this: what did the Labour backbenchers think they would achieve? Surely they must know that humiliating their leader simply clears more of the pathway for Nige. Have they been won over by Nige's more recent Leftist soundings and convinced themselves that the welfare state is safe in his hands?

    By largely caving to the rebels on welfare cuts, Reeves will likely have to have a wealth tax or higher taxes elsewhere in the autumn
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496

    tlg86 said:

    Reeves is finished.

    Isn't this more on Starmer? And Leicester Liz?
    It's amazing to think that Liz Kendall once had leadership ambitions.
    iirc her own campaign manager is one of the leading signatures on the PIP Magna Carta letter.

  • eekeek Posts: 30,394
    edited June 26

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly (beyond) badly.

    I joke about my policy of 3p on income tax and a treating the winter fuel allowance as a small extra for low paid pensioners but it still would have solved the immediate problems in a less painful way than the Employer NI change.

    And there is still the insanity of council tax being based on 1989 prices to fix...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,865
    Nigelb said:

    Reeves is finished.

    That seems reasonably likely.

    It's not so much the U turn, as the evidence that the details of the policy had barely been considered, and fell apart on scrutiny.

    The specifics of the U turn won't be announced until tomorrow, so it's quite possible the same thing happens all over again.

    And it still leaves the unresolved problem of a welfare budget rising at a far more rapid rate than revenue to pay for it - whether from tax rises or growth.
    Andrew Bailey on growth, or lack of it

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/jun/26/uk-businesses-tax-rises-keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-shell-bp-no-bid-business-live?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,617
    eek said:

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly beyond badly.

    She’s not politically deft enough. A new government is the chance for a Chancellor to do some radical things. Brown had his BoE independence, Osborne had his OBR and austerity budget.

    Reeves took some money off grannies and raised taxes, after spending the summer telling everyone how awful it would be. Radical it wasn’t, just glum and dull.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,911

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
    The extent to which people are transfixed to their phone is one of the biggest changes I hve noticed in Britain in the last five years. Get on a tube - the person not looking at their mobile is the weird exception. (He's probably the bomber.)

    Mothers looking at their phone rather than their baby is causing profound changes in the development of children. We maybe won't know how profound for years, but young children are losing the cues from their mother on how to behave.
    Not just babies - toddlers and kids as well. I find it utterly depressing how many parents are fixated on their phones or other gadgets rather than engaging with their young kids.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,075
    @murray.senate.gov‬

    I'm going to try and communicate with my Republican colleagues in a new way.

    https://bsky.app/profile/murray.senate.gov/post/3lsk3uyolnc2x
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,075
    @maxwelltani

    Here's the letter NYT lead newsroom attorney David McCraw sent to Trump. The paper said: "No retraction is needed. No apology will be forthcoming. We told the truth to the best of our ability. We will continue to do so."

    https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/1938352292807221619
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496
    Never let a crisis go to waste.

    Starmer should immediately push for the end of the Triple Lock, massive changes to IHT so that boomers pay for their social care out of their property wins, reform pension tax contributions.

    Seize the day.

    Come out punching.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,739

    tlg86 said:

    Reeves is finished.

    Isn't this more on Starmer? And Leicester Liz?
    It's amazing to think that Liz Kendall once had leadership ambitions.
    Liz "4%" Kendall?
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,659

    Nigelb said:

    Reeves is finished.

    That seems reasonably likely.

    It's not so much the U turn, as the evidence that the details of the policy had barely been considered, and fell apart on scrutiny.

    The specifics of the U turn won't be announced until tomorrow, so it's quite possible the same thing happens all over again.

    And it still leaves the unresolved problem of a welfare budget rising at a far more rapid rate than revenue to pay for it - whether from tax rises or growth.
    Andrew Bailey on growth, or lack of it

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/jun/26/uk-businesses-tax-rises-keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-shell-bp-no-bid-business-live?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
    Looks like borrowing, inflation and interest rates going up Up UP under Labour!

    What a surprise!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    edited June 26
    Possibly 35 degrees in London on Monday, so looking around I've found somewhere that's fairly cool. Holyhead, on Anglesey. 18 and mist.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2646686
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,617
    edited June 26

    Never let a crisis go to waste.

    Starmer should immediately push for the end of the Triple Lock, massive changes to IHT so that boomers pay for their social care out of their property wins, reform pension tax contributions.

    Seize the day.

    Come out punching.

    Won’t work. Now any tax rises will be presented as hitting pensioners/workers to protect benefits claimants. The only thing he can probably get away with is lowering the threshold for the top rate of income tax, maybe, with some tweaks to the personal allowance cliff edge.
  • GadflyGadfly Posts: 1,203
    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    Nokia 3310?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,075
    Gadfly said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    Nokia 3310?
    Windows phone
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,013
    Scott_xP said:

    @murray.senate.gov‬

    I'm going to try and communicate with my Republican colleagues in a new way.

    https://bsky.app/profile/murray.senate.gov/post/3lsk3uyolnc2x

    And least some people are engaging with their toddlers ...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,234
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    Is it just an 'image' or is there some reality behind it? I'm referring to the 'dangerous and hostile' bit.
    The UK is the rape capital of the western world

    "Rape offences have increased dramatically in England and Wales since 2012/13 when there were 16,038 offences. After this year, rape offences increased substantially, reaching a high of 69,973 offences in the 2021/22 reporting year, before falling slightly to 68,949 in 2022/23, and to 67,928 in 2023/24. When 2023/24 is compared with the 2002/03 reporting year, there was an almost sixfold increase in the number of rape offences recorded by the police in England and Wales. "

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    I'm trying to think of a reason why. Perhaps you can
    Have they switched to telephone assessment?
    So... a six fold increase in reported rapes, in 20 years, is...... funny?
    Nah.
    It's symptomatic of a society whose structure is breaking down.
    In your rush to blame the dusky and worship the "Alpha male" you can't detect that.
    Your side is winning.
    The only option for me is to laugh at everything.
    Because the ocean of suffering and cloud of ignorance is widening and deepening every day.
    When your beloved Reform gain power and fail miserably, as they surely will, what's left?
    Corbynism didn't win 40% for no reason, nor have those votes gone away.
    They'll overturn everything you hold dear. Perhaps you won't last that long. Until then continue to find Nigel attractive as you found Boris amusing.
    As you reap so shall you sew.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496

    Bill Madden
    @maddenifico
    ·
    9h
    This is why Zohran Mamdani won. He's a modern, educated American with a sense of humor who not only knows how to communicate, but understands and empathizes with the plight of working class Americans. I sincerely hope the Democratic Party is taking notes.

    https://x.com/maddenifico/status/1938211234412974130
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496
    Andy_JS said:

    Possibly 35 degrees in London on Monday, so looking around I've found somewhere that's fairly cool. Holyhead, on Anglesey. 18 and mist.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2646686

    Not another f*cking heatwave. Grrr...

    Not a fan myself.

    Roll on September
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,296
    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    Is it just an 'image' or is there some reality behind it? I'm referring to the 'dangerous and hostile' bit.
    The UK is the rape capital of the western world

    "Rape offences have increased dramatically in England and Wales since 2012/13 when there were 16,038 offences. After this year, rape offences increased substantially, reaching a high of 69,973 offences in the 2021/22 reporting year, before falling slightly to 68,949 in 2022/23, and to 67,928 in 2023/24. When 2023/24 is compared with the 2002/03 reporting year, there was an almost sixfold increase in the number of rape offences recorded by the police in England and Wales. "

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    I'm trying to think of a reason why. Perhaps you can
    Have they switched to telephone assessment?
    So... a six fold increase in reported rapes, in 20 years, is...... funny?
    Nah.
    It's symptomatic of a society whose structure is breaking down.
    In your rush to blame the dusky and worship the "Alpha male" you can't detect that.
    Your side is winning.
    The only option for me is to laugh at everything.
    Because the ocean of suffering and cloud of ignorance is widening and deepening every day.
    When your beloved Reform gain power and fail miserably, as they surely will, what's left?
    Corbynism didn't win 40% for no reason, nor have those votes gone away.
    They'll overturn everything you hold dear. Perhaps you won't last that long. Until then continue to find Nigel attractive as you found Boris amusing.
    As you reap so shall you sew.
    What the fuck are you on about, now?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,916
    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122
  • eekeek Posts: 30,394

    eek said:

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly beyond badly.

    She’s not politically deft enough. A new government is the chance for a Chancellor to do some radical things. Brown had his BoE independence, Osborne had his OBR and austerity budget.

    Reeves took some money off grannies and raised taxes, after spending the summer telling everyone how awful it would be. Radical it wasn’t, just glum and dull.
    She had 6 months

    Reverse the NI cuts but use Income tax
    Sort out council tax

    That would have fixed the immediate issues.
    Then implement the Employer NI changes this year alongside another 1p on income tax, (2p minimum on 40% + levels) to cover the defence costs.

    Now none of that would be popular but it would be a lot more arguable than the current mess.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    Is anyone going to stop this country going bankrupt?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,496
    eek said:

    eek said:

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly beyond badly.

    She’s not politically deft enough. A new government is the chance for a Chancellor to do some radical things. Brown had his BoE independence, Osborne had his OBR and austerity budget.

    Reeves took some money off grannies and raised taxes, after spending the summer telling everyone how awful it would be. Radical it wasn’t, just glum and dull.
    She had 6 months

    Reverse the NI cuts but use Income tax
    Sort out council tax

    That would have fixed the immediate issues.
    Then implement the Employer NI changes this year alongside another 1p on income tax, (2p minimum on 40% + levels) to cover the defence costs.

    Now none of that would be popular but it would be a lot more arguable than the current mess.
    Yes - council tax. Massively needs reform. Do it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,696
    Two tier pip. Christ, worst of all worlds
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,804
    edited June 26
    I think Labour backbenchers would have no problem with cutting the child benefit income threshold.

    Was £50k until Hunt increased it to £60k just before the GE.

    Could easily move back to £50k or even lower. If £35k is rich enough not to need Winter Fuel Allowance, why not apply same threshold to other benefits? There's a logic there.

    If they chicken out of touching other benefits it will have to be big tax rises. And that will surely have to be employers NI again.

    We saw last time that the public don't understand employers NI so there's no direct backlash.

    But if you hit a particular group (eg farmers IHT) all hell breaks loose. So they won't risk that.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    edited June 26
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    algarkirk said:

    Leon said:

    algarkirk said:

    https://x.com/peston/status/1938312795399016812

    I understand Starmer’s offer to the welfare rebel MPs is to protect PIP payments for all existing claimants forever. There would be no detriment from the reforms for existing claimants. This would shave circa £2bn from the reform savings by 2029. I an pretty clear that with the other reforms I describe below this will persuade enough rebels to back the remaining reforms in next Tuesday’s vote.

    There will also be “grandfathering” of the disability top up universal credit for existing claimants. So again no detriment to existing claimants. My estimate is this would shave another billion pounds or so from the reform savings by 2029.

    Finally, and importantly, the rebels - led by Treasury committee chair Meg Hillier - have secured agreement that the Stephen Timms review of how to assess entitlement to disability benefits will be a co-production with disability rights groups. This is seen by rebel MPs as a major concession.

    My assumption is that enough rebel MPs will now drop their opposition to the reforms and Starmer will win on Tuesday. But make no mistake, this is another substantial government u-turn

    Court cases incoming from new claimants. Equality act, discrimination etc etc.
    Multi billion pound u turn that might not survive contact with the court system.
    Why didn't he just pull it and start on proper reform?!
    Oh well, damage done now if it even gets through
    This is yet another example of how Starmer twists and turns, and we are at a point now where how can anyone trust a word he says

    Indeed I believe this will just cement the view that he is weak and is unlikely to change any votes, indeed this may cause more unpopularity for him

    They are really giving off Single Term vibes now.

    The optics of hitting more people with tax rises in the autumn for the price of retaining the existing welfare system for most claimants (after saying how terrible it was) is going to be absolutely bleak for Labour.

    Starmer is a bad PM.
    I think Labour remain clear favourites to form the next government, either alone or with support from LDs. There is a very long way to go. In the polling they are about 6 points behind Reform. We are one year into this government. A year or so into the 2019 government, Tories and Labour were neck and neck to win the next election according to the polling. Labour won by miles four years later. Stuff happens.

    On current form the next election is Labour v Reform. Only one of those two is serious. Another advantage for Labour is that the Tories could well recover ground, and split the non Labour vote in a way which can only help Labour.
    Keep whistling, if it maintains your spirits
    Maintaining spirits would require a clear win for a One Nation Tory party, the one that has gone missing in recent years, but thanks for the suggestion.

    On another recent topic; ferries. Can I put a word in for the short Fishnish to Lochaline run, running regularly throughout the year connecting two places for no tremendously good reason. One of the idlest things I know of a summer afternoon is to be on it as a foot passenger just because it is there.
    You are clearly terrified of a Reform victory, and ardently hopecasting that it won't happen
    I am not a Reform supporter but each day Starmer is in office must add many more to their vote
    My extended fam used to be fairly solidly Tory, with some lefty outliers - and it includes all types, from boho layabouts like me to hardworking accountants, solicitors, electricians. And all ages

    Now it is solidly Reform, as I reported, because "we've tried everything else"

    I see no sign of Labour dealing with that "we've tried everything else" feeling. I strongly suspect that by the end of their term immigration will be down but all the damage it is doing will be ongoing (and likely a lot worse, so much is baked in). And the boat people will still be an issue in some form

    At the same time it is obvious growth is not going to roar into life, the govt has no ideas for reforming the NHS or social care, investment will be weak, the tax base will still be shrinking, and foreign policy will still consist of things like Chagos and reparations, because that's what Labour DO

    By 2028 people will be utterly desperate and disgusted by all this. So Reform will win, as things stand
    Unfortunately Reform are now dedicated proponents of cakeism like all the other parties apart from possibly the right-wing of the Conservatives who might have a couple of MPs after the next election.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,430
    eek said:

    carnforth said:

    eek said:

    carnforth said:

    viewcode said:

    carnforth said:

    Fun fact I learned today from HMRC: from 2027 small LTD companies will have to file public profit and loss. So everyone can find out how much (or how little, in my case) I earn.

    Going to be hard for small or new companies to bid for projects now - they'll be ruled out based on financial fragility.

    Is this a pointless change by Starmer or a pointless change by HMRC?
    Previous government and/or HMRC. Alledgedly to prevent money laundering.
    It wasn't exactly difficult to work out what was going on by looking at changes in balance sheets.
    I run a single person limited. I take all available money in dividends. My balance sheet tells you nothing, whether I earn £10000 or £500000.
    When do you pay your corporation tax? You can read a lot in to your current liabilities..
    Fair point, if you know the profit margin. But how do you if it's 5% or 95%? And how do you know if I take a salary?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,705
    edited June 26
    stodge said:

    geoffw said:

    stodge said:

    geoffw said:


    Andriy Zagorodnyuk, former Ukranian minister of defence, promotes the Orwellian solution of non-ending war between Ukraine and Russia:
    By ensuring that Russia’s war is operationally pointless, Ukraine can survive, adapt, and achieve success, no matter how prolonged the war.
    https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/06/ukraines-new-theory-of-victory-should-be-strategic-neutralization?lang=en
    Fascinating read, hat-tip Phillips O'Brien

    I've long been of the view the current low-grade conflict suits a lot of the players - obviously not those doing the fighting and the dying but those supplying the weapons have been the big winners and between the conflict and the coming of Trump, arms manufacturers seem set for another bonanza as European countries ramp up defence spending.
    Part of the argument is that Ukraine must, and can, run faster with innovation in the new defence technologies and military strategies
    ETA necessity is the mother of invention, as someone said
    In effect, the conflict becomes a proving ground for new technologies and ways of conducting warfare much as the Balkan Ward foreshadowed what would happen on the Western Front pre 1914.
    You might find this picture morbid or eerie- odd in its own way, with unsettling details. Why is there a body on a door? Why is there no casket? And why is this happening in a lawn? It's a short story - one that makes the distant, abstract feeling of war suddenly tangible:
    https://x.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1938211511542935577

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1938211511542935577.html?utm_campaign=topunroll
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Bedwell (Stevenage) Council By-Election Result:

    🌹 LAB: 43.2% (-2.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 34.5% (New)
    🌳 CON: 9.0% (-9.9)
    🌍 GRN: 6.7% (-7.8)
    🔶 LDM: 6.7% (-8.6)

    No TUSC (-5.6) as previous.

    Labour HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2024.

    Anti Reform votimg?? Reform won Bedwell in the county council last month
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,916
    Pulpstar said:

    Two tier pip. Christ, worst of all worlds

    PIP PIP, cheerio.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,056
    edited June 26

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    Bit of a dig at Elon Musk’s height? It seems that a man’s height is one of the few things that people can still take the Mickey out of without fear of woke style criticism.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,930

    Do we think that Keir or any cabinet member (s) will resign over this shambles?

    Maybe??

    Remember, they were elected to "end the chaos" ... 😂
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,393

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    Keir Starmer and his Government really have rebranded themselves the Two Tier Labour PM and Labour Government. Does no one in the No10 Comms unit know what they are doing when it comes to the PM and Government's messaging or the negative optics of these last minute U turns?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    "Keir Starmer faces war on all fronts
    The Prime Minister’s authority is under attack and Rachel Reeves may pay the price.
    By Andrew Marr"

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2025/06/state-of-emergency-2
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,997

    Bedwell (Stevenage) Council By-Election Result:

    🌹 LAB: 43.2% (-2.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 34.5% (New)
    🌳 CON: 9.0% (-9.9)
    🌍 GRN: 6.7% (-7.8)
    🔶 LDM: 6.7% (-8.6)

    No TUSC (-5.6) as previous.

    Labour HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2024.

    Anti Reform votimg?? Reform won Bedwell in the county council last month

    Could be, especially with those falls for Lib Dems and Greens. Never underestimate the political power of a clipart picture of two horses racing.

    Also highlights the limits of an airwar operation, like Reform's. That's probably better news for them in a General Election.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26
    isam said:

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    Bit of a dig at Elon Musk’s height? It seems that a man’s height is one of the few things that people can still take the Mickey out of without fear of woke style criticism.
    You didn't get the memo, if they have the wrong opinions you can be as nasty as you like and it is still fine...and of course all that punching up / punching down rubbish as well.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,004
    ...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,004

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
    Why has Jonathan Pie stopped doing YouTube videos?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26
    viewcode said:

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
    Why has Jonathan Pie stopped doing YouTube videos?
    Clearly there isn't enough material for his character to rant about...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    edited June 26
    viewcode said:

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
    Why has Jonathan Pie stopped doing YouTube videos?
    He talks about things on this recent interview with Andrew Gold. I haven't watched the whole 75 mins because I find him slightly annoying — Pie, not Gold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yw9nnIKZF4
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26
    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
    Why has Jonathan Pie stopped doing YouTube videos?
    He talks about things on this recent interview with Andrew Gold. I haven't watched the whole 75 mins because I find him slightly annoying — Pie, not Gold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yw9nnIKZF4
    What were his reasons?

    I have seen him interviewed before, he doesn't come off great. But the character is very good, and taps into what I think a large amount of the public feel...the FFS...even if over the years more of his personal politics has bled into Pie being openly more left than just dicks to the left of me, dickheads to the right.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,241
    Andy_JS said:

    Is anyone going to stop this country going bankrupt?

    IMF?

    Lord knows what price they'd exact. Selling the NHS to Donald Trump for a £1?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    edited June 26
    Another disappointment tonight for Reform UK in local by-elections. They should have won this one.

    "South Staffordshire. Great Wyrley Landywood

    Con 358 (48.71%)
    RefUK 292 (39.73%)
    Lab 55 (7.48%)
    Green 30 (4.08%)

    Con hold"

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/19397/local-council-elections-26th-june?page=3
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956

    Andy_JS said:

    viewcode said:

    Cutting edge satire from Led by Donkeys at Glastonbury:

    https://x.com/lecanardnoir/status/1938271981084021122

    We are still led by donkeys, just different ones, but those dickheads don't seem so bothered about that these days. Much more important to do stunts about the total irrelevance that is Liz Truss.

    Jonathan Pie is disappointing in that respect, he has basically given up doing YouTube videos, when there is infinite source material. The odd one about the Orange One, but that is it.
    Why has Jonathan Pie stopped doing YouTube videos?
    He talks about things on this recent interview with Andrew Gold. I haven't watched the whole 75 mins because I find him slightly annoying — Pie, not Gold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yw9nnIKZF4
    What were his reasons?

    I have seen him interviewed before, he doesn't come off great. But the character is very good, and taps into what I think a large amount of the public feel...the FFS...even if over the years more of his personal politics has bled into Pie being openly more left than just dicks to the left of me, dickheads to the right.
    I switched off before he got to the details because as I said I find him bit irritating.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,241
    eek said:

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly (beyond) badly.

    I joke about my policy of 3p on income tax and a treating the winter fuel allowance as a small extra for low paid pensioners but it still would have solved the immediate problems in a less painful way than the Employer NI change.

    And there is still the insanity of council tax being based on 1989 prices to fix...
    Raising Income Tax by 3p (or anything at all) would have required Starmer to throw the MIng vase at the wall - and be showered in shards of his political credibility.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Andy_JS said:

    Another disappointment tonight for Reform UK in local by-elections. They should have won this one.

    "South Staffordshire. Great Wyrley Landywood

    Con 358
    RefUK 292
    Lab 55
    Green 30

    Con hold"

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/19397/local-council-elections-26th-june?page=3

    Are the Tories unwell? Winning is unusual. First defence of a seat since the locals i believe
  • glwglw Posts: 10,450
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Lindsey Graham: "I don't know where the 900 pounds of highly enriched uranium exists, but it wasn't part of the target set."

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    Breaking: After a classified briefing with Cabinet officials, Sen. Chris Murphy says: "I walk away from that briefing still under the belief that we have not obliterated the programs."

    "The president was deliberately misleading the public when he said the program was obliterated."

    Essentially every arms controls or non-proliferation expert has been saying "where's the bloody uranium?" Because people who actually know what they are talking about realise that even if the centrifuges are "obliterated" it barely matters when Iran has so little enrichment left to do.

    Donald Trump and his administration are dangerously stupid. At best the job is half done, and not even the most important half.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,450
    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Maybe it's time to hand the reins to Angela Rayner.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Steady on there...Sunak was also absolutely useless at politics.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956

    Andy_JS said:

    Another disappointment tonight for Reform UK in local by-elections. They should have won this one.

    "South Staffordshire. Great Wyrley Landywood

    Con 358
    RefUK 292
    Lab 55
    Green 30

    Con hold"

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/19397/local-council-elections-26th-june?page=3

    Are the Tories unwell? Winning is unusual. First defence of a seat since the locals i believe
    It's a local election for local people and apparently the Tory was slightly more local than the Ref candidate.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26
    Andy_JS said:

    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Maybe it's time to hand the reins to Angela Rayner.
    What evidence is there she would be better? She is fiesty and much better at hand to hand combat of HoC politicing, but her workers bill is dangerously stupid and all the house building targets aren't exactly been smashed. And she has never run much more than a bath. Starmer did run a significant public sector operation (although he is rarely challenged properly on just how many failures it had under his watch) and he looks way out of his depth.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    edited June 26
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Another disappointment tonight for Reform UK in local by-elections. They should have won this one.

    "South Staffordshire. Great Wyrley Landywood

    Con 358
    RefUK 292
    Lab 55
    Green 30

    Con hold"

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/19397/local-council-elections-26th-june?page=3

    Are the Tories unwell? Winning is unusual. First defence of a seat since the locals i believe
    It's a local election for local people and apparently the Tory was slightly more local than the Ref candidate.
    I think the Tories have also gained the Chorley seat - no result showing but the tories have put up a congrats to the candidate
  • glwglw Posts: 10,450

    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Steady on there...Sunak was also absolutely useless at politics.
    I never said Sunak was good at it, merely better than Starmer. Sunak and May didn't go through all the palarver first building up expectations, they did unpopular things straight off the bat. Somehow Starmer seems to have a habit now for dragging things out far beyond any normal political limit.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,893

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    Is it just an 'image' or is there some reality behind it? I'm referring to the 'dangerous and hostile' bit.
    The UK is the rape capital of the western world

    "Rape offences have increased dramatically in England and Wales since 2012/13 when there were 16,038 offences. After this year, rape offences increased substantially, reaching a high of 69,973 offences in the 2021/22 reporting year, before falling slightly to 68,949 in 2022/23, and to 67,928 in 2023/24. When 2023/24 is compared with the 2002/03 reporting year, there was an almost sixfold increase in the number of rape offences recorded by the police in England and Wales. "

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/

    I'm trying to think of a reason why. Perhaps you can
    Because of a feedback loop of societal consciousness of a problem, women are believed more, more cases go forward. Which encourages more reporting. Which puts it more in the news. So a woman thinks “that bastard got his deserts. Maybe I should report…”

    Note that @DavidL of this parish reports a huge amount of historical cases in his docket. That are now being investigated and taken to court.
    oh don't try to use intelligence with him, please
  • eekeek Posts: 30,394

    eek said:

    Reeves is finished.

    She must be in despair. Neither her boss nor her backbench colleagues have been remotely helpful at all. She must be thinking what the blazes is the point?
    She has only herself to blame. Captured by Treasury think within hours of entering office she has never recovered imho.

    Brown is her political hero and yet she doesn't seem to have learnt diddly squat from him about how to mix the politics with the number crunching.
    Yep - she played a poor hand incredibly (beyond) badly.

    I joke about my policy of 3p on income tax and a treating the winter fuel allowance as a small extra for low paid pensioners but it still would have solved the immediate problems in a less painful way than the Employer NI change.

    And there is still the insanity of council tax being based on 1989 prices to fix...
    Raising Income Tax by 3p (or anything at all) would have required Starmer to throw the MIng vase at the wall - and be showered in shards of his political credibility.
    It required not answering a question during the election and pointing out that the 4p cut on employee NI wasn't affordable (as we all knew) and was being reversed by 3p on Income Tax. The WFA concession would then mean that only richer pensioners were hit at which point the question becomes who except for rich pensioners is going to complain about rich pensioners paying more tax.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,996
    edited June 26
    glw said:

    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Steady on there...Sunak was also absolutely useless at politics.
    I never said Sunak was good at it, merely better than Starmer. Sunak and May didn't go through all the palarver first building up expectations, they did unpopular things straight off the bat. Somehow Starmer seems to have a habit now for dragging things out far beyond any normal political limit.
    I think you have short memory, Sunak got himself into some right pickles e.g. when he was CoE, NI++ "reforms".
  • eekeek Posts: 30,394

    glw said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Tom Harris 🇬🇧@MrTCHarris
    There's a pattern developing here. Announce a radical but unpopular policy, get tons of grief from voters, then once you've been irreparably damaged, perform a U-turn so you get neither the policy nor popularity. Bloody genius.
    https://x.com/MrTCHarris/status/1938327501962678304

    As I've said before whatever merits Starmer has, and he does have some, he is rubbish at politics. Sunak and May were better at it than he is.
    Steady on there...Sunak was also absolutely useless at politics.
    The problem is Starmer and co (Reeves, Kendall) are worse and I voted for Kendall as better than the other options at the time (2015).
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    ❗ Conservative GAIN from Labour

    Buckshaw and Whittle (Chorley) council by-election result:

    CON: 35.5% (+3.2)
    REF: 32.7% (+32.7)
    LAB: 25.4% (-34.3)
    GRN: 6.4% (-1.6)

    +/- 2023

    Estimated turnout: ~23% (-6)

    Another Reform miss tonight
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    ❗ Reform GAIN from Independent Group

    Whitworth (Rossendale) council by-election result:

    REF: 47.5% (+47.5)
    CON: 29.1% (-0.7)
    LAB: 16.3% (-4.8)
    GRN: 7.1% (-4.0)

    No IndGrp (-38.0) as prev.

    +/- 2024

    There they are!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Lib Dem hold in Crediton Devon
    Labour get their arses kicked by the Greens in Shooters Hill. Greenwich
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    Green gain from Labour in Greenwich / Shooters Hill.

    Grn 34.64%
    Lab 30.13%
    RefUK 16.02%
    Con 11.48%
    LD 5.10%
    Ind Tingay 2.27%
    Ind Tarling 0.36%
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,255
    Scott_xP said:

    @paleofuture.bsky.social‬

    Rep. Andy Ogles, a Republican from Tennessee, has sent a letter to Pam Bondi calling for Zohran Mamdani to be stripped of his citizenship and deported.

    https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3lsjtdvh2422k

    I was told that a republican congresswomen has tweeted to remind everyone when Harris’s secret service protection ends.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956
    Reports that the LDs have won the Edinburgh contest.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Andy_JS said:

    Reports that the LDs have won the Edinburgh contest.

    Yes, from fifth last time! Looks like all 5 holyrood parties got a chunk of vote, Reform in 6th this time
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,956

    Andy_JS said:

    Reports that the LDs have won the Edinburgh contest.

    Yes, from fifth last time! Looks like all 5 holyrood parties got a chunk of vote, Reform in 6th this time
    Around 10% would be a good showing for Ref in Edinburgh, particularly a fairly well-off part of the city.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Reports that the LDs have won the Edinburgh contest.

    Yes, from fifth last time! Looks like all 5 holyrood parties got a chunk of vote, Reform in 6th this time
    Around 10% would be a good showing for Ref in Edinburgh, particularly a fairly well-off part of the city.
    About 7% i think so just under
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,380

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
    The extent to which people are transfixed to their phone is one of the biggest changes I hve noticed in Britain in the last five years. Get on a tube - the person not looking at their mobile is the weird exception. (He's probably the bomber.)

    Mothers looking at their phone rather than their baby is causing profound changes in the development of children. We maybe won't know how profound for years, but young children are losing the cues from their mother on how to behave.
    Not just babies - toddlers and kids as well. I find it utterly depressing how many parents are fixated on their phones or other gadgets rather than engaging with their young kids.
    Imo what has hurt children since Covid is not long Covid or lockdown or the toxicity of social media but the use of messaging apps to replace in-person communication.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,380
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    https://substack.com/inbox/post/166886541

    On the decline of AirBNB prices in prime London and whether it's due to non dom tax changes.


    It's that, but also surging crime

    A friend of mine went to Shepherd's Bush Green this week, and there are signs saying "it is wrong to sexually assault or harrass women, please don't do it"

    Maybe they've always been there? Maybe this is new. But Sweet Jesus F C

    X is also full of stories of asylum seekers being busted for sex crimes. It is remarkable this isn't a bigger story
    What would be the correlation between non-dom taxes and AirB'n'B rates?
    A drastic fall in demand for high-priced escorts maybe?
    Yes, I don't believe this is primarily non-doms, it is the image of London as dangerous, hostile and overpriced

    It's toxic
    It's also not true. Someone at my client's office yesterday was saying that Baker Street was rife with phone thieves and it really, really isn't. If you want to see thieves go to Barcelona or Rome.
    For years I've strolled around London (inc the centre) with my phone tucked in my back pocket visible to all. I'm not even remotely careful with it. I sometimes even leave it unattended on a table for a short period. It's never been touched.
    I had mine stolen last year about 30 yards from my flat. Plucked from my hands by a kid on a bike. There is a phone theft in London every six minutes

    I guarantee that if you carry on doing what you do, your phone will be stolen
    Actually phones in pockets are reasonably safe in the streets, where the MO of phone thieves is to snatch them from the hands of people using them. It is in bars and on the tube where pickpockets operate.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,380

    IanB2 said:

    https://x.com/peston/status/1938312795399016812

    I understand Starmer’s offer to the welfare rebel MPs is to protect PIP payments for all existing claimants forever. There would be no detriment from the reforms for existing claimants. This would shave circa £2bn from the reform savings by 2029. I an pretty clear that with the other reforms I describe below this will persuade enough rebels to back the remaining reforms in next Tuesday’s vote.

    There will also be “grandfathering” of the disability top up universal credit for existing claimants. So again no detriment to existing claimants. My estimate is this would shave another billion pounds or so from the reform savings by 2029.

    Finally, and importantly, the rebels - led by Treasury committee chair Meg Hillier - have secured agreement that the Stephen Timms review of how to assess entitlement to disability benefits will be a co-production with disability rights groups. This is seen by rebel MPs as a major concession.

    My assumption is that enough rebel MPs will now drop their opposition to the reforms and Starmer will win on Tuesday. But make no mistake, this is another substantial government u-turn

    Court cases incoming from new claimants. Equality act, discrimination etc etc.
    Multi billion pound u turn that might not survive contact with the court system.
    Why didn't he just pull it and start on proper reform?!
    Oh well, damage done now if it even gets through
    This is yet another example of how Starmer twists and turns, and we are at a point now where how can anyone trust a word he says

    Indeed I believe this will just cement the view that he is weak and is unlikely to change any votes, indeed this may cause more unpopularity for him

    They are really giving off Single Term vibes now.

    The optics of hitting more people with tax rises in the autumn for the price of retaining the existing welfare system for most claimants (after saying how terrible it was) is going to be absolutely bleak for Labour.

    Starmer is a bad PM.
    Nevertheless a bad Labour PM is change from a bad Tory one.
    I’m starting to think we’d have been better with Sunak. And I dont say that lightly - I thought the Tories 2019-2024 were easily the worst government of my lifetime.
    IMHO, Sunak and Hunt with a 5 year term ahead of them would have been significantly better at governing than Starmer's shower of shite. A couple of technocrats muddling through is about as good as it gets.
    Ah yes, Sunak and Hunt, under whose hegemony PIP was, well, you get the drift. You are falling into the same trap as Kemi and Jenrick. If badly-reformed PIP is wrong now, it was worse under the Tories.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,380

    So, it begins...


    Simon Fletcher
    @fletchersimon
    ·
    25m
    So to be clear, this is a proposal for a two tier benefits system in which your entitlement is determined by when you apply rather than your actual situation, and so two people in the same position could have radically different outcomes purely depending on timing?

    Like pension age.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,380
    stodge said:

    geoffw said:


    Andriy Zagorodnyuk, former Ukranian minister of defence, promotes the Orwellian solution of non-ending war between Ukraine and Russia:
    By ensuring that Russia’s war is operationally pointless, Ukraine can survive, adapt, and achieve success, no matter how prolonged the war.
    https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/06/ukraines-new-theory-of-victory-should-be-strategic-neutralization?lang=en
    Fascinating read, hat-tip Phillips O'Brien

    I've long been of the view the current low-grade conflict suits a lot of the players - obviously not those doing the fighting and the dying but those supplying the weapons have been the big winners and between the conflict and the coming of Trump, arms manufacturers seem set for another bonanza as European countries ramp up defence spending.
    To condense and mangle a joke from the Jimmy Carr clip posted earlier:-
    Heckler: Who will win the war between the US and Iran?
    Carr: Lockheed Martin.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,065
    Reform with another gain in Sheffield ( Stocksbridge)

    Just Wickford and Catsfield/Crowhurst results to come (indy and LD defences)
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