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  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,020

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    2 hours till US markets close
    *buffs nails and waits*

    Have you shorted it or something?
    Nah, waiting for the fireworks
    Ah ok. Don't know about timings but I also think there's a fair chance (30% say) the US do end up 'going in'.
    Hsifa took a pounding again earlier and the Iron Dome is creaking, i think time's pressing. Somethimgs gotta give.
    Iran are clearly trying to schmooze the UK/EU and cause a rift
    Well there was a perfectly serviceable deal until MaxiMoron tore it up in his first term.
    That was eight years ago now. Even if the deal back then was perfect a lot has happened since, and the arrow of time applies.
    Bit like EU membership?
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,768
    carnforth said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Taxi for Isam (using the cab rank protocol?).
    That is not how the public will see it
    Only if disingenuous media and political bullshit*tters continue to lie.
    You do know how politics works
    Politicians lie, and that is what Badenoch has done. She knows how the legal system works.
    Where is the lie ?

    It may be politics, but it seems factual
    Isn't a Barrister obliged to defend a defendant? The lie is she knows this.

    It reeks of beer and curry.
    Indeed. My understanding (for which I will gladly be corrected) is thta it is the job of a defence lawyer to provide the very best defence they can for their client even if they do not agree with them. Our whole system is built on the idea that the accused gets the best practical defence to ensure the trial is fair. I would be loath to undermine this (anymore than is already being done by the attacks on legal aid).
    Alternative view:

    https://www.legalcheek.com/2023/03/cab-rank-rule-a-myth-peddled-by-the-bar-says-retired-judge/
    Not really. In the absense of a cab rank rule, there is no reason why a lawyer shouldn't represent a client.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,179
    Looks a somewhat dodgy 'breakfast' for the Spanish PM's aide there then. The latest poll gives the conservative PP a 10% lead over the governing Socialists so he will not want to lose a confidence vote
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Spanish_general_election
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,167
    TimS said:

    MattW said:

    Finally got around to plugging my heater / cooler in the other way round for the summer 90 minutes ago.

    My kitchen is now 2-3C cooler.

    Time to go and look for some fish and chips.

    London has had one of those stinking days today with grey-white milky skies but oven-warm temperatures - some of my least favourite summer weather - but since 5ish it’s cleared completely, freshened to an ideal evening 25C and a breeze has got up. It’s liberating when claggy cloud clears and you’re left with deep blue. The windows and doors are being opened to let the air flow through.

    Swallows flitting around in the sky with their familiar calls that sound like summer.

    And my son with his friends in the kitchen who’ve all just finished a-levels, making cocktails.
    Hope you've left a clear route to the toilet and have some bowls handy.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,143

    Nigelb said:
    "Estonia is now building a massive defensive line on its border with Russia, including fortified positions with anti tank ditches."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936015937783603244

    and

    "Russia plans to launch over 800 Shahed 136 drones on Ukrainian cities every night in the future."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936052859117682970
    Presumably the Ukrainians are under instructions from the White House not to trash Russian oil storage/refining capacity and push oil prices --> US inflation higher.

    They really should do as much damage to it as they can, to minimise the benefit Russia gets from increased oil prices.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,179

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,663
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    Not this shit again.

    Right, that's it. I am hereby launching a petition to our wonderful moderators: please can we allow Leon one post a day on AI (with accompanying photo) on the basis that he never again posts about soft furnishings?

    All those in favour say AYE.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,394
    edited June 20

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Taxi for Isam (using the cab rank protocol?).
    That is not how the public will see it
    Only if disingenuous media and political bullshit*tters continue to lie.
    You do know how politics works
    Politicians lie, and that is what Badenoch has done. She knows how the legal system
    works.
    She didn’t lie. She misled. That’s different

    When the police found me in a stolen car wrapped around a tree I misled them by
    suggesting my name was @StillWaters and not @Mexicanpete .
    Worth noting

    Not really but whatever

    that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    I haven’t checked but I’m going to assume those statements are factually accurate.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be
    perfectly legal.


    “Perfectly legal” a bit of a stretch but certainly it would be hard to convict if he’d established that precedent as a defence.

    Which bit do you think is a lie?

    It would depend on whether a war crime was imminent. If the refuelling aircraft are used to help American planes enforce the NPT, then I don't think that's a war crime, whereas the planes damaged in 2004 might have been poised to be used for more nefarious purposes.

    Presumably Badenoch does not think that assisting in the destruction of Iran's nuclear weapons programme constitutes a war crime, so why would she think that the defence would apply in this case?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,756
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,179

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That's terrible, such an awful waste of young lives.

    I do find it inexplicable that motorcycle/scooter licences are age-gated but car licences are not, when the potential damage from driving a car recklessly is so much greater.
    Sad news from Richard Tyndall and thoughts with his son's classmates.

    Yes, motorcycle riders are more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a crash than car drivers but car drivers are more likely to kill or seriously injure if they cause a crash so makes sense to age gate both
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,394
    edited June 20

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    2 hours till US markets close
    *buffs nails and waits*

    Have you shorted it or something?
    Nah, waiting for the fireworks
    Ah ok. Don't know about timings but I also think there's a fair chance (30% say) the US do end up 'going in'.
    Hsifa took a pounding again earlier and the Iron Dome is creaking, i think time's pressing. Somethimgs gotta give.
    Iran are clearly trying to schmooze the UK/EU and cause a rift
    Well there was a perfectly serviceable deal until MaxiMoron tore it up in his first term.
    That was eight years ago now. Even if the deal back then was perfect a lot has happened since, and the arrow of time applies.
    Bit like EU membership?
    Yes. But in both cases a new deal might be possible, if both sides are willing.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,756

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    2 hours till US markets close
    *buffs nails and waits*

    Have you shorted it or something?
    Nah, waiting for the fireworks
    Ah ok. Don't know about timings but I also think there's a fair chance (30% say) the US do end up 'going in'.
    Hsifa took a pounding again earlier and the Iron Dome is creaking, i think time's pressing. Somethimgs gotta give.
    Iran are clearly trying to schmooze the UK/EU and cause a rift
    Well there was a perfectly serviceable deal until MaxiMoron tore it up in his first term.
    That was eight years ago now. Even if the deal back then was perfect a lot has happened since, and the arrow of time applies.
    I know, but what a ridiculous 'arc' from there to here. Obama did it so it had to go.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460
    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    Blue velvet! Mmm nice!

    It would appear you've nailed the late model Austin Ambassador velour interior look for your gaff.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,716
    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    2 hours till US markets close
    *buffs nails and waits*

    Have you shorted it or something?
    Nah, waiting for the fireworks
    Ah ok. Don't know about timings but I also think there's a fair chance (30% say) the US do end up 'going in'.
    Hsifa took a pounding again earlier and the Iron Dome is creaking, i think time's pressing. Somethimgs gotta give.
    Iran are clearly trying to schmooze the UK/EU and cause a rift
    Well there was a perfectly serviceable deal until MaxiMoron tore it up in his first term.
    That was eight years ago now. Even if the deal back then was perfect a lot has happened since, and the arrow of time applies.
    I know, but what a ridiculous 'arc' from there to here. Obama did it so it had to go.
    Its worth noting that in the principle of that deal, Iran were not supposed to enrich past about 3.5% which is all that civilian power generation needs.

    20% is considered highly enriched and only serves military purposes.

    They got to 60%. This did not happen by accident.

    And still many here act as if Bibi is making this up.

    60% enriched uranium serves absolutely no civilian purpose.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,756
    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    Not this shit again.

    Right, that's it. I am hereby launching a petition to our wonderful moderators: please can we allow Leon one post a day on AI (with accompanying photo) on the basis that he never again posts about soft furnishings?

    All those in favour say AYE.
    Nay from me. Anything that keeps him off Keir smear and immigration.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    Not this shit again.

    Right, that's it. I am hereby launching a petition to our wonderful moderators: please can we allow Leon one post a day on AI (with accompanying photo) on the basis that he never again posts about soft furnishings?

    All those in favour say AYE.
    There are now so many subjects which I am banned from mentioning, it's basically haberdashery from here on in

    Seriously tho. John Lewis are doing an AMAZING offer on cushions at the moment. I got my Laura Ashley crushed blue velvet "nigella" jobs for £15, down from £55 each
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,183

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Taxi for Isam (using the cab rank protocol?).
    That is not how the public will see it
    Only if disingenuous media and political bullshit*tters continue to lie.
    You do know how politics works
    Politicians lie, and that is what Badenoch has done. She knows how the legal system
    works.
    She didn’t lie. She misled. That’s different

    When the police found me in a stolen car wrapped around a tree I misled them by
    suggesting my name was @StillWaters and not @Mexicanpete .
    Worth noting

    Not really but whatever

    that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    I haven’t checked but I’m going to assume those statements are factually accurate.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be
    perfectly legal.


    “Perfectly legal” a bit of a stretch but certainly it would be hard to convict if he’d established that precedent as a defence.

    Which bit do you think is a lie?

    Talking of lawyers and judges, got told an interesting thing today.

    People here might remember the case of the armed policeman put on trial for shooting a suspect - suspect filmed refusing to comply and then tried to run over the policeman with a large car.

    Jury acquitted the policeman very rapidly.

    What I was told was that the reason that the Judge blocked the statement that the jury wanted read out, was that it was a pointed attack on the case being brought at all. And directly went for the competence of the person in charge of the prosecution.

    The judge, so I was told, was concerned that the prosecutor in question had a reputation for being a vengeful and very political shit. And thought he might actually try to go after members of the jury, if he got humiliated.

    Pretty startling stuff, eh?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460
    ...
    kinabalu said:

    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    Not this shit again.

    Right, that's it. I am hereby launching a petition to our wonderful moderators: please can we allow Leon one post a day on AI (with accompanying photo) on the basis that he never again posts about soft furnishings?

    All those in favour say AYE.
    Nay from me. Anything that keeps him off Keir smear and immigration.
    Yes, a good point. 1980s velour soft furnishings are a welcome change from rabid right-wingery.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,020
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    I feel you need a velvet smoking jacket, and perhaps one of those tasseled caps. In fact this your new look.

    https://youtu.be/AOmQZTBql00?si=3cq5YELmkW1z2nxd
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    edited June 20
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Jesus, stop whining about people "being mean" about Skyr Toolmakersson. Us on the right had you guys haranguing smearing and violently mocking various Tory PMs for fourteen loooong years. This is what happens to politicians in power

    Sadly for us, much of the bitter mockery was justified. Sadly for you, it is even MORE justified with Starmer
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,756
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    All good. But beware of becoming a cliche. To avoid that you need to have some 'against expectations' components. Eg an outdoor team sport. Or golf even.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    I feel you need a velvet smoking jacket, and perhaps one of those tasseled caps. In fact this your new look.

    https://youtu.be/AOmQZTBql00?si=3cq5YELmkW1z2nxd
    That is my flat (as intended) turned into a racing pundit. So, yes
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Lawyers are paid to say whatever bollox they think will help their client get off, doesn't mean they believe it themselves.
    "We're going to make a fortune from this place!"
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,897
    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    You may want to Google "yachting".
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460
    edited June 20

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide by starvation however.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    All good. But beware of becoming a cliche. To avoid that you need to have some 'against expectations' components. Eg an outdoor team sport. Or golf even.
    lol. Never golf. NEVER golf

    The against expectations stuff is that I am still relentlessly travelling to some pretty radical places

    Russia is a possibility at the mo. Also San Francisco, ugh

    But overall I've taken a look at the wardrobe of my life and realised, Leon, you're never going to fit into those jackets from 20 years ago. That time has passed. Time to age disgracefully. Buy linen
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide however.
    Of course its fair to say if you campaign on your background then your background becomes open to criticism.

    I do criticise him for his lack of support for Israel and his absurd opposition to taking out Iran's nuclear programme.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,776
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1936147029698244860

    Q: Your intelligence community says they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuke

    TRUMP: Then my intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?

    Q: You director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard

    TRUMP: She's wrong
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,354
    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    August in Greece? Hope the air-con doesn't conk out.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,944

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    I feel you need a velvet smoking jacket, and perhaps one of those tasseled caps. In fact this your new look.

    https://youtu.be/AOmQZTBql00?si=3cq5YELmkW1z2nxd
    Ahem...

    image
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,020
    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,238
    Lots of military checkpoints apparently being set up all round Tehran. There seens to an atmosphere of martial law.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460
    edited June 20

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide however.
    Of course its fair to say if you campaign on your background then your background becomes open to criticism.

    I do criticise him for his lack of support for Israel and his absurd opposition to taking out Iran's nuclear programme.
    But Kemi's critique in a nutshell is he defended terrorist so is he a terrorist?

    The f***** said Netanyahu was entitled to contravene the Geneva Convention and starve Gazans to death. I think it was circa 10/10/2023. He lost a shit load of seats at the GE because of his pro-Netanyahu positioning.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,238
    Or seems to be, even, that should say there.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1936147029698244860

    Q: Your intelligence community says they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuke

    TRUMP: Then my intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?

    Q: You director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard

    TRUMP: She's wrong

    Tulsi Gabbard is so utterly unfit for office its like he was trying for someone so dreadful he looks sane in comparison.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,020
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    I feel you need a velvet smoking jacket, and perhaps one of those tasseled caps. In fact this your new look.

    https://youtu.be/AOmQZTBql00?si=3cq5YELmkW1z2nxd
    Ahem...

    image
    A cape! Of course.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide however.
    Of course its fair to say if you campaign on your background then your background becomes open to criticism.

    I do criticise him for his lack of support for Israel and his absurd opposition to taking out Iran's nuclear programme.
    But Kemi's critique in a nutshell is he defended terrorist so is he a terrorist?

    The f***** said Netanyahu was entitled to contravene the Geneva Convention and starve Gazans to death. I think it was circa 10/10/2023. He lost a shit load of seats at the GE because of his pro-Netanyahu positioning.
    He won a landslide did he not?

    Though yes we have too many Hamas voters in this country. Its concerning.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003

    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

    My expectation is that the "billionaire yacht experience" is a lot less interesting and fun than it sounds. Essentially you are trapped on a boat with lots of very very rich people showing off. I've been trapped in Tuscan villas with such people and it's bad enough, but actually out at sea? In a Tuscan villa you can bow out and head to the nearest town and a bar....

    But, I could be entirely wrong and it's a blast
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,944
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

    My expectation is that the "billionaire yacht experience" is a lot less interesting and fun than it sounds. Essentially you are trapped on a boat with lots of very very rich people showing off. I've been trapped in Tuscan villas with such people and it's bad enough, but actually out at sea? In a Tuscan villa you can bow out and head to the nearest town and a bar....

    But, I could be entirely wrong and it's a blast
    Say hello to Mandelson for us.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,917
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

    My expectation is that the "billionaire yacht experience" is a lot less interesting and fun than it sounds. Essentially you are trapped on a boat with lots of very very rich people showing off. I've been trapped in Tuscan villas with such people and it's bad enough, but actually out at sea? In a Tuscan villa you can bow out and head to the nearest town and a bar....

    But, I could be entirely wrong and it's a blast
    https://x.com/thetimes/status/1936062003363102835
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,003
    edited June 20
    Entirely unrelatedly, I noticed that Marc Andreessen was following me the other day. On social media. Big fan of my tech-based flint knapping articles, by all accounts
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide however.
    Of course its fair to say if you campaign on your background then your background becomes open to criticism.

    I do criticise him for his lack of support for Israel and his absurd opposition to taking out Iran's nuclear programme.
    But Kemi's critique in a nutshell is he defended terrorist so is he a terrorist?

    The f***** said Netanyahu was entitled to contravene the Geneva Convention and starve Gazans to death. I think it was circa 10/10/2023. He lost a shit load of seats at the GE because of his pro-Netanyahu positioning.
    He won a landslide did he not?

    Though yes we have too many Hamas voters in this country. Its concerning.
    You could argue that was Boris's genius.

    Importing a million pro-Palestinian voters every year to undermine Labour.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,238
    Back on Iran, I really worry for the Iranian opposition. The Chinese help seems to be consolidatig the theocrat criminals.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,376

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1936147029698244860

    Q: Your intelligence community says they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuke

    TRUMP: Then my intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?

    Q: You director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard

    TRUMP: She's wrong

    Tulsi Gabbard is so utterly unfit for office its like he was trying for someone so dreadful he looks sane in comparison.
    Looks like she will be first out of the door now.

    I'll be surprised. I really thought it would be Jay Bhattacharya.

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,394
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

    My expectation is that the "billionaire yacht experience" is a lot less interesting and fun than it sounds. Essentially you are trapped on a boat with lots of very very rich people showing off. I've been trapped in Tuscan villas with such people and it's bad enough, but actually out at sea? In a Tuscan villa you can bow out and head to the nearest town and a bar....

    But, I could be entirely wrong and it's a blast
    Presumably you've been invited to entertain the jaded and bored rich people. With luck they'll also have invited someone else interesting, or you can have fun with the staff below decks.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,167
    Scott_xP said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Didn’t Onassis have the stools at the breakfast bar on one of his yachts covered in leather made from whale foreskins?
    Good oneupmanship at breakfast: Finest baby Kudu leather? Well, it’s okay I guess…

    My expectation is that the "billionaire yacht experience" is a lot less interesting and fun than it sounds. Essentially you are trapped on a boat with lots of very very rich people showing off. I've been trapped in Tuscan villas with such people and it's bad enough, but actually out at sea? In a Tuscan villa you can bow out and head to the nearest town and a bar....

    But, I could be entirely wrong and it's a blast
    https://x.com/thetimes/status/1936062003363102835
    Frankie Boyle has the billionaire superyacht nailed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    .
    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Let us know about the cushions.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    Leon said:

    Entirely unrelatedly, I noticed that Marc Andreessen was following me the other day. On social media. Big fan of my tech-based flint knapping articles, by all accounts

    Following your stalker, surely ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    It does sound more of an autumn/winter vision if you don't mind my saying. Velvet, brass, and those other things.
    Yes. There comes a time when you have to lean in to it

    Ageing, well travelled artiste with a louche past, an affluent present, and many hair-raising stories
    All good. But beware of becoming a cliche. To avoid that you need to have some 'against expectations' components. Eg an outdoor team sport. Or golf even.
    Golf is the Adrian Chiles of sports.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,376

    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,375


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    .


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    Given they both are, it's kind of moot.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,158
    Leon said:

    I have just been invited to stay on a billionaire's yacht, cruising round the Greek islands in August

    This is one of the few things left for me to do, that I haven't already done

    The "billionaire yacht experience". Could be interesting

    Persuade him to stop off at Milos for some obsidian - much better than flint for knapping.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,183
    Nigelb said:

    .


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    Given they both are, it's kind of moot.
    Yes - both are proven, hard core liars.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,945

    Nigelb said:

    .


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    Given they both are, it's kind of moot.
    Yes - both are proven, hard core liars.
    We need the guards to the gates of the Sapphire City.

    At least we know that one of them always tells the truth.
  • novanova Posts: 847

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    This should be beneath you, Kemi - it's not "worth noting". As you well know, barristers represent all sorts and try to get them off. In 2004, 21 years ago and 11 whole years before he became an MP, Starmer had a different job. Why on earth are you bringing this up?
    If I were a Tory, I'd be despairing of my leadership.
    On that I have some sympathy, cab rank rule means barristers have to make the best of whichever case they were given. Though Starmer going as hard as he is on protestors at military bases inevitably means some of his past legal career will be brought up
    For those who want every opportunity to take a cheap jibe and score a political point off the Prime Minister, very little is off limits. There seem plenty to criticise everything Starmer says and does - even bending down to pick up some papers is an "embarrassing gaffe" apparently.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    Keir has been all too happy to use his legal background to appeal to voters. "I've prosecuted terrorists", "I've prosecuted sex offenders".

    What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
    I am not sure that is entirely fair.

    You are more than welcome to criticise the barsteward for his unrelenting support for Netanyahu genocide however.
    Of course its fair to say if you campaign on your background then your background becomes open to criticism.

    I do criticise him for his lack of support for Israel and his absurd opposition to taking out Iran's nuclear programme.
    But Kemi's critique in a nutshell is he defended terrorist so is he a terrorist?

    The f***** said Netanyahu was entitled to contravene the Geneva Convention and starve Gazans to death. I think it was circa 10/10/2023. He lost a shit load of seats at the GE because of his pro-Netanyahu positioning.
    In the same breath he said they shouldn't contravene international law.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    The problem is she was the one lying.

    What do you think the Iranians were doing enriching u235 to 60% if not building a nuclear weapon?

    A lot of expense to go to otherwise when it has no civilian purpose.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631

    Nigelb said:

    .


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    Given they both are, it's kind of moot.
    Yes - both are proven, hard core liars.
    I always lie. In fact, I am lying to you now.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,183

    Nigelb said:

    .


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    Given they both are, it's kind of moot.
    Yes - both are proven, hard core liars.
    I always lie. In fact, I am lying to you now.
    You’re from Crete?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    This is a very polite way of saying he was rubbish today.
    And dangerously optimistic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/ce83dz0v66mo
    …England's understrength bowling attack lacked threat in the Leeds sunshine but Chris Woakes will not be as generous in offering boundary chances again…
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    A uni mate who was a proper posho once invited me to Cowes Week. I thought that sounds awesome, sit on the Gin Palace and potter around in the ocean in the sun watching people bust a gut cranking those winches.

    Turns out my mate signed me up as a grinder, which is doing the bloody cranking...
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,375


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    The problem is she was the one lying.

    What do you think the Iranians were doing enriching u235 to 60% if not building a nuclear weapon?

    A lot of expense to go to otherwise when it has no civilian purpose.
    No you misunderstand me. As I said the other day, I support Israel in this attack on Iran. What I am saying is that, in the past, a statement from the President that accused someone of lying would be sufficient to see that person ruined. With this President it is almost meaningless as so many people think he is a liar himself and that nothing he says can be trusted.

    Very few politicians in the past would have felt able to accuse the President of lying. Now it is so common as to be an obvious line of defence.

    For the record, just to repeat, I agree with you. But what we are discussing here is not 'Truth' or 'Facts' but the perception of the President of the United States as someone who cannot be believed to the extent that can be used as a defence by his opponents.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,027
    Sir Keir’s interview was at a normal everyday person’s house

    Hi Andrew, I'm a presenter on @TalkTV who interviewed the PM at Nicola's house in Staffs yesterday. Answers to your Qs are:
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes, I met her.
    3. No and no.
    4. She's not an actress -- the evidence cited online is a photo that isn't her.
    5. Yes, it's her house and kitchen.


    https://x.com/petercardwell/status/1936151302125633989?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    edited June 20
    Nigelb said:

    This is a very polite way of saying he was rubbish today.
    And dangerously optimistic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/ce83dz0v66mo
    …England's understrength bowling attack lacked threat in the Leeds sunshine but Chris Woakes will not be as generous in offering boundary chances again…

    I think England need to move on from Woakes even in England. His pace is well down now and has never been very effective abroad and surely the task is finding the team for the Ashes. Problem is cupboard is looking rather empty at the moment.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    edited June 20
    isam said:

    Sir Keir’s interview was at a normal everyday person’s house

    Hi Andrew, I'm a presenter on @TalkTV who interviewed the PM at Nicola's house in Staffs yesterday. Answers to your Qs are:
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes, I met her.
    3. No and no.
    4. She's not an actress -- the evidence cited online is a photo that isn't her.
    5. Yes, it's her house and kitchen.


    https://x.com/petercardwell/status/1936151302125633989?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    The picture that was doing the rounds on social media looked nothing like her.

    However, anybody who thinks these things aren't very carefully stage managed (for all political parties) is a wally. They never just random people they found on Facebook, they nearly always have some connection to the party or have been running a particular campaign and have been carefully vetted beforehand to ensure their views align.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,460
    isam said:

    Sir Keir’s interview was at a normal everyday person’s house

    Hi Andrew, I'm a presenter on @TalkTV who interviewed the PM at Nicola's house in Staffs yesterday. Answers to your Qs are:
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes, I met her.
    3. No and no.
    4. She's not an actress -- the evidence cited online is a photo that isn't her.
    5. Yes, it's her house and kitchen.


    https://x.com/petercardwell/status/1936151302125633989?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Isam, you are obsessed.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    edited June 20
    You have to give props to Corbyn, of course there was still the staged managed stuff, but he did go out into the public a lot and give his pitch (bonkers though it might have been). Cameron Direct was probably the only other example in a very long time where politicians actually faced the public whoever they might be.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,859

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    Blue velvet! Mmm nice!

    It would appear you've nailed the late model Austin Ambassador velour interior look for your gaff.
    I'm somewhat reminded of a photo story I once saw about Paul Raymond's former penthouse, tbh. But I'm sure it is entirely different.

    Though I do imagine that @Leon would enjoy one of those triplex penthouses at the top of the Barbican towers, with 3 roof terraces, for his ultimate property. If you have ever been in one, you know how sumptuous they are.

    An original brochure for one of them:
    https://artsandculture.google.com/story/barbican-penthouses-barbican-centre/1gXBeDI_q-3TMA?hl=en

    3250 sqft including outside space, one of the small ones, £5 million by now - piece of pie for a best selling author.
    https://mr0.homeflow-assets.co.uk/files/property_asset/image/6164/3271/a18ee58c04789f409c29b5c6df1576a1/04f8bc5daa246d2bc3a41bbda356db6959313a0c.pdf
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,738

    A uni mate who was a proper posho once invited me to Cowes Week. I thought that sounds awesome, sit on the Gin Palace and potter around in the ocean in the sun watching people bust a gut cranking those winches.

    Turns out my mate signed me up as a grinder, which is doing the bloody cranking...

    I'm visualising you as a muscle bound Adonis now..
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410

    Nigelb said:

    This is a very polite way of saying he was rubbish today.
    And dangerously optimistic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/ce83dz0v66mo
    …England's understrength bowling attack lacked threat in the Leeds sunshine but Chris Woakes will not be as generous in offering boundary chances again…

    I think England need to move on from Woakes even in England. His pace is well down now and has never been very effective abroad and surely the task is finding the team for the Ashes. Problem is cupboard is looking rather empty at the moment.
    In his defence, his captain put in to bat some very good young Indian players, on a placid surface, on one of the hottest days of the year.

    But those are the conditions which separate the good from the great. And England desperately need someone a little closer to the latter category.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    Palestine Action is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after its activists breached security at an air base to damage two RAF planes.The organisation will be banned, alongside groups like Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, in a move that will leave supporters facing up to 14 years in jail.

    Starting next week "Just Stop Action On Palestine"...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,191

    Palestine Action is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after its activists breached security at an air base to damage two RAF planes.The organisation will be banned, alongside groups like Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, in a move that will leave supporters facing up to 14 years in jail.

    Starting next week "Just Stop Action On Palestine"...

    Splitters is the local term.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    edited June 20
    kjh said:

    A uni mate who was a proper posho once invited me to Cowes Week. I thought that sounds awesome, sit on the Gin Palace and potter around in the ocean in the sun watching people bust a gut cranking those winches.

    Turns out my mate signed me up as a grinder, which is doing the bloody cranking...

    I'm visualising you as a muscle bound Adonis now..
    Think more sweaty sunburnt mess....I didn't go back the next year.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    edited June 20
    dixiedean said:

    Palestine Action is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after its activists breached security at an air base to damage two RAF planes.The organisation will be banned, alongside groups like Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, in a move that will leave supporters facing up to 14 years in jail.

    Starting next week "Just Stop Action On Palestine"...

    Splitters is the local term.
    More seriously, is there anything in the law that just stops people shutting down on organisation and starting a new one? A bit like authorities struggled for ages with "legal highs", where you banned one and they just slightly altered the formula?

    I would hope that if you have been identified as being involved with the previous organisation when it becomes proscribed and you are involved in the new one it still counts should the new one get involved in the same stuff.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,376
    Lord Wood on Newsnight points out that any ping pong on ADeath has to be completed before end of this session of parliament.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,183
    Look, I’ve got a solution here to the Iran thing.

    The Iranians *sell* the 60% stuff to Ukraine, along with the centrifuges.

    The Ukrainians also buy some nice missiles from the South Koreans.

    And offer the Iranians a nuclear umbrella in a pay-to-play basis.

    All I need is about 50 billion to get this rolling.

    Since it involves Iran, post colonial blah blah blah, I reckon I can get SK3 to cough up half at least.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,598
    kjh said:

    A uni mate who was a proper posho once invited me to Cowes Week. I thought that sounds awesome, sit on the Gin Palace and potter around in the ocean in the sun watching people bust a gut cranking those winches.

    Turns out my mate signed me up as a grinder, which is doing the bloody cranking...

    I'm visualising you as a muscle bound Adonis now..
    I’m hearing the gentle strains of Howard’s Way.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,551

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Oh FFS Kemi. That's not how barristers work and everyone in your party knows that.

    So stay above the fray and have an attack dog backbencher or scribbler smear Starmer for this.
    It's stupid, dishonest, cynical and probably won't work. #klassickemi

    What's her thesis here? People who enter RAF stations unauthorised shouldn't get legal counsel?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,735
    kinabalu said:

    2 hours till US markets close
    *buffs nails and waits*

    Have you shorted it or something?
    I have!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,735
    edited June 20
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    For sitting on or mainly just to stroke?
    To really make the living room *pop*

    Honestly, it's transformational. I'm turning the whole flat into a kind of decadent cocoon. A velvet fortress wherefrom I can witness the apocalypse. The bedroom is going to be absurd. All the glossy woodwork will be deep red wine colour, with Hague blue walls

    Themes of pink and sapphire throughout. Old brass light fixtures. Armenian obsidian daggars glittering in the Tom Dixon blown metal lamplight

    OOOOOH
    That's a strong look. I'm ok with that.
    It is. It should be done by autumn, and I am faintly trembling with anticipation

    It's all coz a friend stayed here over winter (while I was away) and then after gave me a stiff talking to, "Leon, you have a lovely flat in a great location but you've let it go to seed. Looks like it hasn't been touched in a decade. It's sad"

    Tough love, but it worked. Next time I came home from a trip I looked around and thought "shit, he's right"

    Sometimes you need friends to tell you the difficult things
    He’s telling you to tidy up and give the place a lick of paint, not turn it into a ponce’s boudoir.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,410
    A fatal lack of high windows.

    Social Media Mocks Reports That Russian Official ‘Accidentally’ Shot Himself
    After the body of Leningrad’s vice-governor was found shot in his country house, Russian law enforcement put it down to an accident while he was cleaning his weapon
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54859
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,767
    ...
    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Oh FFS Kemi. That's not how barristers work and everyone in your party knows that.

    So stay above the fray and have an attack dog backbencher or scribbler smear Starmer for this.
    It's stupid, dishonest, cynical and probably won't will work. #klassickemi

    What's her thesis here? People who enter RAF stations unauthorised shouldn't get legal counsel?
    I hate people who do this, but 'fixed it for you'.

    Besides, I don't even think it's particularly cynical or stupid - we all know the detestable little weasel has always been always attracted to anyone and anything anti-British, and there are plenty of ways for (unaccountably) popular lawyers to choose their clients.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,143

    Palestine Action is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after its activists breached security at an air base to damage two RAF planes.The organisation will be banned, alongside groups like Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, in a move that will leave supporters facing up to 14 years in jail.

    Starting next week "Just Stop Action On Palestine"...

    Splitters...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631
    edited June 20
    Nigelb said:

    A fatal lack of high windows.

    Social Media Mocks Reports That Russian Official ‘Accidentally’ Shot Himself
    After the body of Leningrad’s vice-governor was found shot in his country house, Russian law enforcement put it down to an accident while he was cleaning his weapon
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54859

    "He accidentally, brutally stabbed himself in the stomach whilst shaving!"
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,679
    Nigelb said:

    A fatal lack of high windows.

    Social Media Mocks Reports That Russian Official ‘Accidentally’ Shot Himself
    After the body of Leningrad’s vice-governor was found shot in his country house, Russian law enforcement put it down to an accident while he was cleaning his weapon
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/54859

    I bet life insurance becomes incredibly difficult to acquire once you reach a certain level in the Russian system as the data points to incredibly high chance of a life ending accident.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,376
    Kruger goes all in...


    The things our country needs more than anything are more children, and more care for our aging population. The Commons voted this week for the opposite - death to both groups. It's the revenge of the middle-aged against their dependents.

    We are ushering in a dangerous new politics, a sort of hedonic utilitarianism in which the convenience of adults is paramount even over the lives of the young and old. This is the pagan philosophy, with its cult of strength, which Christianity banished but is now returning.

    https://x.com/danny__kruger/status/1936142387459350827
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,795

    Lord Wood on Newsnight points out that any ping pong on ADeath has to be completed before end of this session of parliament.

    Which is apparently expected to be next May.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,027

    isam said:

    Sir Keir’s interview was at a normal everyday person’s house

    Hi Andrew, I'm a presenter on @TalkTV who interviewed the PM at Nicola's house in Staffs yesterday. Answers to your Qs are:
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes, I met her.
    3. No and no.
    4. She's not an actress -- the evidence cited online is a photo that isn't her.
    5. Yes, it's her house and kitchen.


    https://x.com/petercardwell/status/1936151302125633989?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Isam, you are obsessed.
    I think you are a bit obsessed with me if I’m to be honest. It’s so tedious when I see your name, half knowing it’s going to be some ticking off or troll

    In this instance I am giving further info about something I posted earlier, which shows that Statmer wasn’t being disingenuous, so I thought you’d appreciate it

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631

    Kruger goes all in...


    The things our country needs more than anything are more children, and more care for our aging population. The Commons voted this week for the opposite - death to both groups. It's the revenge of the middle-aged against their dependents.

    We are ushering in a dangerous new politics, a sort of hedonic utilitarianism in which the convenience of adults is paramount even over the lives of the young and old. This is the pagan philosophy, with its cult of strength, which Christianity banished but is now returning.

    https://x.com/danny__kruger/status/1936142387459350827

    More children born now would mean more old people in 60-70 years' time.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,394


    Yashar Ali 🐘
    @yashar

    President Trump tells reporters that Tulsi Gabbard is wrong about the Islamic Republic of Iran building a nuclear weapon.

    She has two choices now as far as I’m concerned: she can either amend her testimony before congress where she stated that the Islamic Republic was not building a nuclear weapon or resign.

    https://x.com/yashar/status/1936149225664086023

    Or she can call Trump a liar.

    I am not saying he is lying, just that with this particular president that is a viable line of defence/attack
    The problem is she was the one lying.

    What do you think the Iranians were doing enriching u235 to 60% if not building a nuclear weapon?

    A lot of expense to go to otherwise when it has no civilian purpose.
    I think you can reconcile the two statements.

    The intelligence assessment might be that Iran is laying the groundwork to build a bomb, by doing preparatory work like enriching uranium, working on missiles and, presumably, doing some design work for a warhead. But perhaps the assessment is that they haven't made a final decision to build a bomb.

    But, of course, that's a fairly narrow definition for "building a bomb", which reduces it to the final week or so if a multi-year project. And doesn't leave you much time to stop them if you wait until they've made the final decision to go ahead and build a bomb from the prepared components.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,354

    Palestine Action is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after its activists breached security at an air base to damage two RAF planes.The organisation will be banned, alongside groups like Hamas, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, in a move that will leave supporters facing up to 14 years in jail.

    Starting next week "Just Stop Action On Palestine"...

    Owen Jones was retweeting them early this afternoon...
  • isamisam Posts: 42,027
    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Oh FFS Kemi. That's not how barristers work and everyone in your party knows that.

    So stay above the fray and have an attack dog backbencher or scribbler smear Starmer for this.
    It's stupid, dishonest, cynical and probably won't work. #klassickemi

    What's her thesis here? People who enter RAF stations unauthorised shouldn't get legal counsel?
    I realise this place is a lawyers only fans, but most normal people probably think it a bit rum to be paid to defend people for doing something you apparently consider appallingly unpatriotic
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,143
    MattW said:

    Leon said:

    To get back on topic, I have just bought the most FABULOUS Laura Ashley midnight blue velvet cushions

    *stares*

    Look, this place lacks femininity. I'm providing

    Blue velvet! Mmm nice!

    It would appear you've nailed the late model Austin Ambassador velour interior look for your gaff.
    I'm somewhat reminded of a photo story I once saw about Paul Raymond's former penthouse, tbh. But I'm sure it is entirely different.

    Though I do imagine that @Leon would enjoy one of those triplex penthouses at the top of the Barbican towers, with 3 roof terraces, for his ultimate property. If you have ever been in one, you know how sumptuous they are.

    An original brochure for one of them:
    https://artsandculture.google.com/story/barbican-penthouses-barbican-centre/1gXBeDI_q-3TMA?hl=en

    3250 sqft including outside space, one of the small ones, £5 million by now - piece of pie for a best selling author.
    https://mr0.homeflow-assets.co.uk/files/property_asset/image/6164/3271/a18ee58c04789f409c29b5c6df1576a1/04f8bc5daa246d2bc3a41bbda356db6959313a0c.pdf
    Yeah, but if you have to wear that 70s gear while you're sat in it...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631
    isam said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Oh FFS Kemi. That's not how barristers work and everyone in your party knows that.

    So stay above the fray and have an attack dog backbencher or scribbler smear Starmer for this.
    It's stupid, dishonest, cynical and probably won't work. #klassickemi

    What's her thesis here? People who enter RAF stations unauthorised shouldn't get legal counsel?
    I realise this place is a lawyers only fans, but most normal people probably think it a bit rum to be paid to defend people for doing something you apparently consider appallingly unpatriotic
    I'm just pleasantly surprised the RAF even had enough planes to be vandalised.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,183

    ...

    Dura_Ace said:

    isam said:

    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Oh FFS Kemi. That's not how barristers work and everyone in your party knows that.

    So stay above the fray and have an attack dog backbencher or scribbler smear Starmer for this.
    It's stupid, dishonest, cynical and probably won't will work. #klassickemi

    What's her thesis here? People who enter RAF stations unauthorised shouldn't get legal counsel?
    I hate people who do this, but 'fixed it for you'.

    Besides, I don't even think it's particularly cynical or stupid - we all know the detestable little weasel has always been always attracted to anyone and anything anti-British, and there are plenty of ways for (unaccountably) popular lawyers to choose their clients.
    The more I hear of the cab rank for lawyers, the more I think of those black cab drivers who claim that they take everyone.

    Then are show, in videos, to turn down black people, brown people, people going to the wrong location, people with credit cards…
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