The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Yes, what if I want to bring in a great developer who didn't bother with a degree but has self taught everything? Or a salesperson who never went to uni and is top of their field. Surely the better solution is to just raise the income threshold rather than put an artificial bar that would disallow visas for a £150k senior developer but allow a £40k dental nurse.
Yes - obviously money is the root of all virtue and should be the sole criterion of everything.
I don't care about virtue when it comes to visas, we want the highest skilled workers and money/salary is the best measure of that.
Wouldn't even say it's skill, surely it's just about what is best for the national balance sheet ?
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
You mean John Major?
No, I mean Tony Blair.
Everyone knows that John Major is not a graduate.
graduated from Oxford at the age of 22 in 1975 with a second-class Honours B.A. in jurisprudence.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct.
Now, sure, did the papers publish that was his grade. (And that was his grade.)
But he never turned up to the graduation ceremony to collect his degree and is therefore a graduand, rather than a graduate.
Oh blimey! All of a sudden Macho Man Sir Keir agrees with me that mass immigration undercuts the wages of working class Brits. Whatever brought that on?
The Tories lost control of our borders and let net migration soar to record levels, undercutting hardworking Brits.
I won't stand for it.
I promised to restore control and cut migration, and I'm delivering with tough new measures.
Depends which job, academia, teaching, medicine, law, nursing etc still very much require a degree
Nursing shouldn't. It didn't for hundreds of years until Labour needed to boost the student numbers and forced them into universities.
For the 9,000th time….
1) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years.
2) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years. And give them a degree certificate at the end.
You've missed the crucial bit in which some university gets to claim £9k a year in tuition frees, plus whatever outrageous price they can get away with as rent for student halls. You've also missed the bit in which nurses now pay a graduate tax off their students loans over the next 30 years, which makes taking a job in Australia particularly attractive.
Student housing is often owned by private companies, not the university. High rents are probably helped by the student loan regimen encouraging an in for a penny, in for a pound mentality.
I think it depends on the Uni. I think quite a number of universities have clocked that as its a pretty much unregulated market it's a very easy route to making lots more money per student and rushed off to get in on the action.
Not that it makes any great difference in terms of the practical outcome, which is to ensure that most students are loaded up with levels of debt they are in no danger of paying off.
I've said (ok, ranted) this before but the loan scheme that looks a bit like a graduate tax should be changed to a straight graduate tax. Like a lot of George Osborne's wheezes, the current arrangement harms both the country and the Conservative Party because it means that graduates leave university with a massive debt hanging over them – ironically worse for those who will never earn enough to repay it because this awful debt is still there. A graduate tax would not have these negative connotations, in the same way the 40 per cent income tax band doesn't. No-one leaves university dreading the day they will be paid so much that they reach a higher income tax band (ignoring for the moment the artificial cliff edges around £100k).
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Yes, what if I want to bring in a great developer who didn't bother with a degree but has self taught everything? Or a salesperson who never went to uni and is top of their field. Surely the better solution is to just raise the income threshold rather than put an artificial bar that would disallow visas for a £150k senior developer but allow a £40k dental nurse.
Yes - obviously money is the root of all virtue and should be the sole criterion of everything.
I don't care about virtue when it comes to visas, we want the highest skilled workers and money/salary is the best measure of that.
Leaving aside the highly-skilled people who deliberately decide to do things that aren't highly-paid... Here's a curious bit of polling.
Respondents were given a list of occupations and asked which ones should be squeezed to reduce immigration. The most popular occupation to reduce was... bankers, on 37%. Though even then, 54% are happy for them to keep coming at at least the current rate.
The other political minefield is that lots of people don't mind immigrants coming in to do X job at the same time that they don't like the sum total of all that.
Oh blimey! All of a sudden Macho Man Sir Keir agrees with me that mass immigration undercuts the wages of working class Brits. Whatever brought that on?
The Tories lost control of our borders and let net migration soar to record levels, undercutting hardworking Brits.
I won't stand for it.
I promised to restore control and cut migration, and I'm delivering with tough new measures.
More tough talk on immigration. I’m sure there’ll be more fake anger when we still have big numbers for net inward migration too. Just as has happened with every leader since Blair when inward migration leapt from the tens of thousands to the hundreds of thousands.
The stable door is well and truly open. Pointless closing it now.
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
You mean John Major?
No, I mean Tony Blair.
Everyone knows that John Major is not a graduate.
graduated from Oxford at the age of 22 in 1975 with a second-class Honours B.A. in jurisprudence.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct.
Now, sure, did the papers publish that was his grade. (And that was his grade.)
But he never turned up to the graduation ceremony to collect his degree and is therefore a graduand, rather than a graduate.
He might have had his degree conferred in absentia. It's what busy people do.
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Yes, what if I want to bring in a great developer who didn't bother with a degree but has self taught everything? Or a salesperson who never went to uni and is top of their field. Surely the better solution is to just raise the income threshold rather than put an artificial bar that would disallow visas for a £150k senior developer but allow a £40k dental nurse.
Yes - obviously money is the root of all virtue and should be the sole criterion of everything.
I don't care about virtue when it comes to visas, we want the highest skilled workers and money/salary is the best measure of that.
Wouldn't even say it's skill, surely it's just about what is best for the national balance sheet ?
Yes, basically. A degree requirement is an artificial bar that will exclude a lot of very high earners and a policy that belongs in the 90s. I've honestly found that some of my best hires have come without degrees from very different work backgrounds. The woman who succeeded me started out as a waitress, didn't go to uni, worked her way through junior ranks in a small fund, was really impressive and thoughtful, literally had to write her own method of getting recognition because she was 5'2", a non-graduate and in a male dominated industry. She's now at senior director level in my old company but doesn't hold a degree. Excluding someone like her from getting a visa just seems completely self harming to our economy.
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
You mean John Major?
No, I mean Tony Blair.
Everyone knows that John Major is not a graduate.
graduated from Oxford at the age of 22 in 1975 with a second-class Honours B.A. in jurisprudence.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct.
Now, sure, did the papers publish that was his grade. (And that was his grade.)
But he never turned up to the graduation ceremony to collect his degree and is therefore a graduand, rather than a graduate.
He might have had his degree conferred in absentia. It's what busy people do.
I have it on good authority from the former Development Director of Oxford University (i.e., my dad) that he never did that.
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
You mean John Major?
No, I mean Tony Blair.
Everyone knows that John Major is not a graduate.
graduated from Oxford at the age of 22 in 1975 with a second-class Honours B.A. in jurisprudence.
They get them with chocolate biscuits at these toffs Universities. Any old rich clown with a bit of dough can get a degree in whataboutery/frippery from these places.
Depends which job, academia, teaching, medicine, law, nursing etc still very much require a degree
Nursing shouldn't. It didn't for hundreds of years until Labour needed to boost the student numbers and forced them into universities.
For the 9,000th time….
1) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years.
2) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years. And give them a degree certificate at the end.
You've missed the crucial bit in which some university gets to claim £9k a year in tuition frees, plus whatever outrageous price they can get away with as rent for student halls. You've also missed the bit in which nurses now pay a graduate tax off their students loans over the next 30 years, which makes taking a job in Australia particularly attractive.
Student housing is often owned by private companies, not the university. High rents are probably helped by the student loan regimen encouraging an in for a penny, in for a pound mentality.
I think it depends on the Uni. I think quite a number of universities have clocked that as its a pretty much unregulated market it's a very easy route to making lots more money per student and rushed off to get in on the action.
Not that it makes any great difference in terms of the practical outcome, which is to ensure that most students are loaded up with levels of debt they are in no danger of paying off.
I've said (ok, ranted) this before but the loan scheme that looks a bit like a graduate tax should be changed to a straight graduate tax. Like a lot of George Osborne's wheezes, the current arrangement harms both the country and the Conservative Party because it means that graduates leave university with a massive debt hanging over them – ironically worse for those who will never earn enough to repay it because this awful debt is still there. A graduate tax would not have these negative connotations, in the same way the 40 per cent income tax band doesn't. No-one leaves university dreading the day they will be paid so much that they reach a higher income tax band (ignoring for the moment the artificial cliff edges around £100k).
The student loan scheme is privately owned is it not? So the debt sits off books for the government and sits as an “asset” on bank balance sheets which was a handy way of financing them for a while.
This scheme is genuinely bonkers - multiple different funding formula to me managed and administered at vast cost. But a grad tax means the government paying and that’s communism and who will pay for that etc etc etc
Oh blimey! All of a sudden Macho Man Sir Keir agrees with me that mass immigration undercuts the wages of working class Brits. Whatever brought that on?
The Tories lost control of our borders and let net migration soar to record levels, undercutting hardworking Brits.
I won't stand for it.
I promised to restore control and cut migration, and I'm delivering with tough new measures.
If he really want to do something constructive instead of just being all,piss and wind trying to regain voters lost then he should tackle ILR and the potential 234 billion GBP liability wrought by the Boriswave. The Boriswave alone is reason enough the Tories should not hold power for a long long time.
Of course Starmer won’t do anything about it because he is fundamentally wedded to it, as are his party.
Mail on Sunday not having Sir Keir’s pretend concern about the effects of the mass immigration he & Labour supported but are trying to disown
Labour have tried to face both ways on this for some time now. But in a new White Paper they plan to embrace a ‘crackdown’ ostensibly intended to deport immigrants who commit any crime, and to somehow overcome the ‘Human Rights’ provisions which make deportation so hard and which Labour themselves wrote into British law.
We are also promised less complacency about the questionable economic benefits of mass immigration, which is seriously straining our health, welfare and school systems.
These moves are designed to create helpful headlines. But should we take any of it seriously?
While they thought they were safe from voter anger, Labour energetically pursued an open borders policy.
Now they are scared of electoral oblivion, they try to ape Nigel Farage. How they used to jeer and sneer at those who warned that their policy was foolish and unrealistic, such as the fact-based campaigning body Migration Watch.
Anyone who suggested that the levels of migration were impractically high was dismissed as some sort of bigot.
Well, now Home Office experts are admitting what Migration Watch said many years ago, that net migration has reached such levels that it is the equivalent of adding a city the size of Edinburgh to the population of the UK each year. Who are the bigots now?
Depends which job, academia, teaching, medicine, law, nursing etc still very much require a degree
Nursing shouldn't. It didn't for hundreds of years until Labour needed to boost the student numbers and forced them into universities.
For the 9,000th time….
1) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years.
2) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years. And give them a degree certificate at the end.
You've missed the crucial bit in which some university gets to claim £9k a year in tuition frees, plus whatever outrageous price they can get away with as rent for student halls. You've also missed the bit in which nurses now pay a graduate tax off their students loans over the next 30 years, which makes taking a job in Australia particularly attractive.
Student housing is often owned by private companies, not the university. High rents are probably helped by the student loan regimen encouraging an in for a penny, in for a pound mentality.
I think it depends on the Uni. I think quite a number of universities have clocked that as its a pretty much unregulated market it's a very easy route to making lots more money per student and rushed off to get in on the action.
Not that it makes any great difference in terms of the practical outcome, which is to ensure that most students are loaded up with levels of debt they are in no danger of paying off.
I've said (ok, ranted) this before but the loan scheme that looks a bit like a graduate tax should be changed to a straight graduate tax. Like a lot of George Osborne's wheezes, the current arrangement harms both the country and the Conservative Party because it means that graduates leave university with a massive debt hanging over them – ironically worse for those who will never earn enough to repay it because this awful debt is still there. A graduate tax would not have these negative connotations, in the same way the 40 per cent income tax band doesn't. No-one leaves university dreading the day they will be paid so much that they reach a higher income tax band (ignoring for the moment the artificial cliff edges around £100k).
The student loan scheme is privately owned is it not? So the debt sits off books for the government and sits as an “asset” on bank balance sheets which was a handy way of financing them for a while.
This scheme is genuinely bonkers - multiple different funding formula to me managed and administered at vast cost. But a grad tax means the government paying and that’s communism and who will pay for that etc etc etc
A graduate tax would also make it easier to hide the uncomfortable fact that vast amounts never gets paid off.
However, if education up to 18 is a public good, so a taxpayer liability, it's hard to see why the same is not true for post 18 education.
He wants to drag it out , make ridiculous demands in any negotiations and then blame Ukraine for not accepting them . Hoping Trump will pull the plug .
Not far off Trump’s ‘negotiating’ modus operandi though. Hopefully he thinks he should be the only one allowed to do it and is suitably outraged.
I see Trump has fallen for Putins smoke and mirrors .
I don’t see how you have peace negotiations whilst the bombing is still happening and Putin will simply put ridiculous demands on Ukraine which they won’t be able to accept . He’ll then play the peace martyr and say they’re not interested in peace , walk away and hope Trump blames Ukraine which more than likely he will .
The Mad King is not having a good week on that front
Claims to have negotiated a ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Both of them say it's bollocks
China walk out of trade negotiations after one hour
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
He does not, although he did do two years at Harvard and has since been awarded 8 honorary doctorates.
Cooper is not as bad as the Turkish constitution, which requires the president to have a degree.
He chose the path that was right for him and has been quite successful in life.
But you make my point for me: a box checking mentality doesn’t work
Trump might go wild when he sees what Vlad has proposed.
Someone should show him what Medvedev has to say about a ceasefire.
...In an early sign that Russia may not be receptive to the latest ultimatum, the hawkish former president, Dmitry Medvedev, wrote on X: “Macron, Merz, Starmer, and Tusk were supposed to discuss peace in Kyiv. Instead, they are blurting out threats against Russia … You think that’s smart, eh? Shove these peace plans up your pangender arses.”
He does have a penchant for striking imagery.!
Macron, Merz, Starmer, and Tusk should destroy a dozen Russian refineries and oil storage facilities. Shove your flaming hydrocarbons industry up your alcoholic arse, Medvedev.
And then we would rightly be seen as the aggressors
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Yes, what if I want to bring in a great developer who didn't bother with a degree but has self taught everything? Or a salesperson who never went to uni and is top of their field. Surely the better solution is to just raise the income threshold rather than put an artificial bar that would disallow visas for a £150k senior developer but allow a £40k dental nurse.
Yes - obviously money is the root of all virtue and should be the sole criterion of everything.
It is a objective measure of how important someone is to the company that wants to sponsor them
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
I heard an ugly rumour that St John’s isn’t a proper college
Depends which job, academia, teaching, medicine, law, nursing etc still very much require a degree
A degree for most nursing is totally unnecessary
Indeed it’s unhelpful - some nurses (not all obviously) have reacted with the view that the “caring” functions of nursing are now not their responsibility - they are closer to doctors than healthcare assistants
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Nor indeed does Tony Blair.
You mean John Major?
No, I mean Tony Blair.
Everyone knows that John Major is not a graduate.
graduated from Oxford at the age of 22 in 1975 with a second-class Honours B.A. in jurisprudence.
I don’t know, but I suspect that @rcs1000 thinks that he didn’t turn up to graduation or something… completed the course but never “graduated”
Depends which job, academia, teaching, medicine, law, nursing etc still very much require a degree
Nursing shouldn't. It didn't for hundreds of years until Labour needed to boost the student numbers and forced them into universities.
For the 9,000th time….
1) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years.
2) Train nurses with a combination of academic and practical work spread over 3-4 years. And give them a degree certificate at the end.
You've missed the crucial bit in which some university gets to claim £9k a year in tuition frees, plus whatever outrageous price they can get away with as rent for student halls. You've also missed the bit in which nurses now pay a graduate tax off their students loans over the next 30 years, which makes taking a job in Australia particularly attractive.
Student housing is often owned by private companies, not the university. High rents are probably helped by the student loan regimen encouraging an in for a penny, in for a pound mentality.
I think it depends on the Uni. I think quite a number of universities have clocked that as its a pretty much unregulated market it's a very easy route to making lots more money per student and rushed off to get in on the action.
Not that it makes any great difference in terms of the practical outcome, which is to ensure that most students are loaded up with levels of debt they are in no danger of paying off.
I've said (ok, ranted) this before but the loan scheme that looks a bit like a graduate tax should be changed to a straight graduate tax. Like a lot of George Osborne's wheezes, the current arrangement harms both the country and the Conservative Party because it means that graduates leave university with a massive debt hanging over them – ironically worse for those who will never earn enough to repay it because this awful debt is still there. A graduate tax would not have these negative connotations, in the same way the 40 per cent income tax band doesn't. No-one leaves university dreading the day they will be paid so much that they reach a higher income tax band (ignoring for the moment the artificial cliff edges around £100k).
The student loan scheme is privately owned is it not? So the debt sits off books for the government and sits as an “asset” on bank balance sheets which was a handy way of financing them for a while.
This scheme is genuinely bonkers - multiple different funding formula to me managed and administered at vast cost. But a grad tax means the government paying and that’s communism and who will pay for that etc etc etc
A graduate tax would also make it easier to hide the uncomfortable fact that vast amounts never gets paid off.
However, if education up to 18 is a public good, so a taxpayer liability, it's hard to see why the same is not true for post 18 education.
The issue is the obsession with 50% going to university and the belief that all should have prizes.
Governments should contribute to university courses to the extent they add value to the country.
If someone wants to spend 3 years studying Advanced Crochet at Fenland Poly let them do it on their own dime
He wants to drag it out , make ridiculous demands in any negotiations and then blame Ukraine for not accepting them . Hoping Trump will pull the plug .
Not far off Trump’s ‘negotiating’ modus operandi though. Hopefully he thinks he should be the only one allowed to do it and is suitably outraged.
I see Trump has fallen for Putins smoke and mirrors .
I don’t see how you have peace negotiations whilst the bombing is still happening and Putin will simply put ridiculous demands on Ukraine which they won’t be able to accept . He’ll then play the peace martyr and say they’re not interested in peace , walk away and hope Trump blames Ukraine which more than likely he will .
The Mad King is not having a good week on that front
Claims to have negotiated a ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Both of them say it's bollocks
China walk out of trade negotiations after one hour
The Art of the Deal...
China walked out, got a sandwich, and walked back in. Further talks are planned.
Trump might go wild when he sees what Vlad has proposed.
Someone should show him what Medvedev has to say about a ceasefire.
...In an early sign that Russia may not be receptive to the latest ultimatum, the hawkish former president, Dmitry Medvedev, wrote on X: “Macron, Merz, Starmer, and Tusk were supposed to discuss peace in Kyiv. Instead, they are blurting out threats against Russia … You think that’s smart, eh? Shove these peace plans up your pangender arses.”
He does have a penchant for striking imagery.!
Macron, Merz, Starmer, and Tusk should destroy a dozen Russian refineries and oil storage facilities. Shove your flaming hydrocarbons industry up your alcoholic arse, Medvedev.
They can't as they are running out of materiel. And the European politicians are posturing again hoping that Trump will take the blame when it all goes to pieces. And the Ukrainians remember what happened to Grozny.
The government plans to change the law to constrain judges interpretation of Article 8 of the ECHR .
The interpretation has been the subject of much controversy and is more of the issue than the actual article itself .
Why didn’t the Tory government attempt this ?
And news that any crime now will lead to a migrant being considered for deportation rather than previously the sentence had to be a year or more .
I’m a little concerned by Cooper’s suggestion that someone needs a degree to be eligible for a work visa. It’s the continued fetishisation of a specific qualification. Bill Gates, for example, does not have a degree.
Yes, what if I want to bring in a great developer who didn't bother with a degree but has self taught everything? Or a salesperson who never went to uni and is top of their field. Surely the better solution is to just raise the income threshold rather than put an artificial bar that would disallow visas for a £150k senior developer but allow a £40k dental nurse.
Wouldn't the simplest way to simply auction the visas, and let the market decide?
Who has money these days - drug dealers, oligarchs and kleptocrats? Why not throw in a peerage as well. There is custom and practice to support the idea.
Comments
Now, sure, did the papers publish that was his grade. (And that was his grade.)
But he never turned up to the graduation ceremony to collect his degree and is therefore a graduand, rather than a graduate.
The Tories lost control of our borders and let net migration soar to record levels, undercutting hardworking Brits.
I won't stand for it.
I promised to restore control and cut migration, and I'm delivering with tough new measures.
British workers – I’ve got your back.
https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1921454888766112166?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
Respondents were given a list of occupations and asked which ones should be squeezed to reduce immigration. The most popular occupation to reduce was... bankers, on 37%. Though even then, 54% are happy for them to keep coming at at least the current rate.
The other political minefield is that lots of people don't mind immigrants coming in to do X job at the same time that they don't like the sum total of all that.
https://bsky.app/profile/sundersays.bsky.social/post/3lousjcsmh22n
The stable door is well and truly open. Pointless closing it now.
This scheme is genuinely bonkers - multiple different funding formula to me managed and administered at vast cost. But a grad tax means the government paying and that’s communism and who will pay for that etc etc etc
Of course Starmer won’t do anything about it because he is fundamentally wedded to it, as are his party.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/indefinite-leave-remain-wrecking-uk-190121683.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIazd9BUoNMwGQUZGkRN7EsTNPyCkfe2eSZdhI8AJyvGCED7kzhHXWz2z6FJkR6rRBsH_EXjSkPeIzvzBIfb5Fe1Lhl2Oc6t7eVyljLWU5B1kmxMQVCnOLVnjjZpCq160HgBFVjJsYrKCD6x6Ssv42xRS8CtIGE-vGN6agmwuBQC
NEW THREAD
Labour have tried to face both ways on this for some time now. But in a new White Paper they plan to embrace a ‘crackdown’ ostensibly intended to deport immigrants who commit any crime, and to somehow overcome the ‘Human Rights’ provisions which make deportation so hard and which Labour themselves wrote into British law.
We are also promised less complacency about the questionable economic benefits of mass immigration, which is seriously straining our health, welfare and school systems.
These moves are designed to create helpful headlines. But should we take any of it seriously?
While they thought they were safe from voter anger, Labour energetically pursued an open borders policy.
Now they are scared of electoral oblivion, they try to ape Nigel Farage. How they used to jeer and sneer at those who warned that their policy was foolish and unrealistic, such as the fact-based campaigning body Migration Watch.
Anyone who suggested that the levels of migration were impractically high was dismissed as some sort of bigot.
Well, now Home Office experts are admitting what Migration Watch said many years ago, that net migration has reached such levels that it is the equivalent of adding a city the size of Edinburgh to the population of the UK each year. Who are the bigots now?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14699325/MAIL-SUNDAY-COMMENT-Labour-change-spots-immigration.html
However, if education up to 18 is a public good, so a taxpayer liability, it's hard to see why the same is not true for post 18 education.
Claims to have negotiated a ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Both of them say it's bollocks
China walk out of trade negotiations after one hour
The Art of the Deal...
But you make my point for me: a box checking mentality doesn’t work
Governments should contribute to university courses to the extent they add value to the country.
If someone wants to spend 3 years studying Advanced Crochet at Fenland Poly let them do it on their own dime
https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1921181790892429502?s=61
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/12/1085861999/russias-wars-in-chechnya-offer-a-grim-warning-of-what-could-be-in-ukraine